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| Railroadmaster | Is this the Maemo IRC? | 10:19 |
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| kerio | ye | 10:19 |
| Railroadmaster | OK it says my IP address is on the Anti-Spam list, could I please have it removed? | 10:20 |
| Railroadmaster | The talk.maemo.org website told me to come here | 10:21 |
| Railroadmaster | "Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. | 10:22 |
| Railroadmaster | Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel." | 10:22 |
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| Railroadmaster | Is there some way to address this | 10:24 |
| Railroadmaster | ?? | 10:26 |
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| Railroadmaster | So any idea about the IP? | 10:45 |
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| KotCzarny | is your ip dynamic? | 10:57 |
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| L29Ah | facilitating facilitators failed to facilitate sane forum policies :( | 12:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we have pretty sane forum policies | 13:32 |
| L29Ah | banning random bands of ip addresses from reading forums and wiki is not sane | 13:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | how's that a *policy*? | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's a implementation detail | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and your pun on "facilitators" is completely off | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | council isn't really in a position to micromanage implementation details | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | You'd know if you bothered to contribute and help instead of just making demotivating jokes | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tmo is using blacklists, and the tmo maintainers/admins have no real saying in which IPs get blocked by those | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so best they can do is send customers here to let maintainer know there's an exception needed, which usually gets implemented instantly | 13:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if we need blacklist guarding for mere *reading* of forum, or this could get set up in a way so only login is guarded is a completely different topic to discuss | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | still nothing council is supposed to have any notion or expertise about, best thing council can do is suggest here | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hint: maintainer of tmo is chem|st | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bottom line: if you had forwarded Railroadmaster to chem|st instead of ranting about "facilitators failed to facilitate", that would have made this a more helpful and friendly place for everybody | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry when I sound grumpy and pissed - maybe that's because I actually am. This sort of rant doesn't help anybody and I seen it too often already | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (this sort: "facilitators failed to facilitate") | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you really want to criticize council for anything, then that would be the lack of presence in here, since their job would be to answer what I suggested you could have answered instead of that rant | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they also could point at a lack of precision in instructions given to tmo visitors that get blocked, it should mention whom to ping in here since obviously a lot of users in here have no idea how to handle such a case (ping the maintainer, explain the situation to visitor, ask for patientce and express sorry for the inconvenience) | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's what council is supposed to do, not mess with tmo blacklist modules | 14:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's "facilitating" | 14:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | council not even has admin accounts on tmo VM | 14:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that's entirely on purpose, they shall not have those | 14:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe helpful (just apply common sense to adapt those rules to the 'new' situation, like "hire maemo.org staff" becomes "appoint/fire competent expert volunteers for maintaining maemo infra") http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council#Council_work | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "Being able to represent the community to Nokia" becomes "moderate between techstaff and larger community" | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even better: http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council/FAQ#What_is_the_difference_between_a_council_member_and_a_committed_community_member.3F | 14:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Need to make it clear on the reject page that techstaff are not here 24/7 they may have to wait about for a response | 14:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Still not ideal rejecting Tor in the first place, I would normally not bother with a site like this and move on. | 14:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I know, it's not "Tor" but most of the end nodes are blocked. | 14:32 |
| KotCzarny | or make infobot react on the usuall paste | 14:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ah well ~unbanip is a thing | 14:32 |
| KotCzarny | fe. on 'Anti-Spam list' | 14:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~unbanip | 14:33 |
| infobot | [unbanip] please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | or just add this info to error page and be done with irc | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~unbanip is also contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here | 14:39 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~unbanip | 14:39 |
| infobot | rumour has it, unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | damn | 14:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~forget unbanip | 14:39 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: i forgot unbanip | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~unbanip | 14:39 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~#maemo unbanip is also contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here | 14:39 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~unbanip | 14:39 |
| infobot | methinks unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal, or contact tmo maintainer chem|st in here | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~techstaff | 14:40 |
| infobot | methinks techstaff is techstaff(AT)maemo.org - the folks that keep your maemo infra running. Devotion to Duty http://xkcd.com/705/ | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: thanks! | 14:43 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | np | 14:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | oh WOW! Jolla finally remembering its roots | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://together.jolla.com/question/149869/coding-competition-the-1st-maemo-developer-regatta-the-starting-line/ | 16:53 |
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