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| sicelo | for python programs with a GUI, the options on N900 are pyqt, pygtk i believe. any other? | 09:32 |
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| CatButts | ~skype | 11:13 |
| infobot | [~skype] Skype is a free VoIP software and service using a closed client and propritary protocol. Only commercial channel drivers exist, with most solutions being complex, complicated, and hack-ish . Digium's SkypeForAsterisk (see ~SkypeForAsterisk) is a new solution that is a cleaner non-dependent option. | 11:13 |
| CatButts | ~SkypeForAsterisk | 11:14 |
| infobot | well, skypeforasterisk is a Digium-made channel driver that allows Asterisk to connect to the Skype network using a Skype-supported connection method. Unlike all other solutions it does not require X11, kernel modules, or a Windows machine. See http://www.digium.com/skype for details, or http://slashdot.org/story/11/05/24/2010222/Microsoft-Kills-Skype-For-Asterisk | 11:14 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 15:20 |
| CatButts | mrroing' | 15:23 |
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| zGrr | ;) | 15:24 |
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| alien2003 | Hey! I need a fresh and clean BakcupMenu image to reflash my N900 because my USB is broken. Can you help me with this? | 18:15 |
| KotCzarny | um, just flash? | 18:16 |
| KotCzarny | ahm | 18:16 |
| KotCzarny | you require a dump | 18:16 |
| alien2003 | just /home and / backup which I can use with BackupMenu | 18:17 |
| KotCzarny | ive never used bm, so cant help there | 18:17 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~bm | 19:33 |
| infobot | backupmenu is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975, or one-click install handling dependency issues: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/BM.install | 19:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I recall someone posted some in that thread but NFC what version of bm they used and if it will work | 19:35 |
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| CatButts | !python | 20:24 |
| CatButts | ~python | 20:24 |
| infobot | i guess python is Available at http://www.python.org Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming language. It is often compared to Tcl, Perl, Scheme or Java. | 20:24 |
| CatButts | I guess so too | 20:24 |
| CatButts | my quick googling leads me to believe 3.4 is latest available for maemo | 20:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg | 20:26 |
| infobot | i heard pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 20:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | would appear so | 20:27 |
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| CatButts | some day, n900, someday | 20:29 |
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| CatButts | not too long ago, I've been told to find a 20-30USD deal for the N900 | 20:55 |
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| CatButts | I got a feeling that holds for USA and less for regions outside it | 20:56 |
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| KotCzarny | CatButts: might be me. there are plenty of n900s | 21:24 |
| sicelo | there are almost none this side, but when there are, usually between 60-70USD | 21:42 |
| sicelo | N9 between 40-60 | 21:43 |
| KotCzarny | he he | 21:44 |
| KotCzarny | says something about n900 vs n9;) | 21:44 |
| CatButts | eh | 21:46 |
| CatButts | bite the pillow, fork out the cash | 21:46 |
| KotCzarny | even right now, quite good condition n900 for ~22usd | 21:47 |
| KotCzarny | with shipping | 21:47 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: where? | 21:48 |
| KotCzarny | on local classifieds site | 21:48 |
| bencoh | I guess n9* where really popular there, then | 21:49 |
| bencoh | because they're quite rare on the over side of europe | 21:49 |
| bencoh | other* | 21:49 |
| bencoh | were* | 21:49 |
| bencoh | wtf with my spelling oO | 21:50 |
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| KotCzarny | yeah. nokia is mostly european phenomenon for weird devices | 21:50 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: by "other side of europe" I meant western europe (say, france) | 21:51 |
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| bencoh | KotCzarny: can we order on that "local site" from france? | 21:51 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, more hackers in the north/east | 21:51 |
| bencoh | (and have the device delivered?) | 21:51 |
| bencoh | maybe | 21:52 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, risky, and costly | 21:52 |
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| bencoh | ah... | 21:52 |
| bencoh | why? | 21:52 |
| bencoh | and how costly? | 21:52 |
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| bencoh | I wouldn't care much about a $30 delivery if device costs as low as $22 | 21:52 |
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| KotCzarny | because eventual returns will be costly | 21:53 |
| KotCzarny | i might buy/send you few if you want | 21:53 |
| bencoh | eventual returns? | 21:53 |
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| KotCzarny | you know, i happened tobuy fake n9, but seller agreed to return money | 21:53 |
| KotCzarny | now if it required additional shipping, you would be 2x shipping broke | 21:54 |
| bencoh | hmm well that might be an option .... I wouldn't mind having a second n900 | 21:54 |
| KotCzarny | let me check shipping to .fr | 21:54 |
| bencoh | that'd eventually allow me to tinker with kernel and "core" libraries | 21:55 |
| CatButts | I'm not too eager ordering stuff from abroad to Romania | 21:55 |
| CatButts | *eager about | 21:55 |
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| bencoh | CatButts: well in that case it'd stay in europe | 21:57 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, ~8 for a 'letter' and ~20 for a package | 21:57 |
| bencoh | and if KotCzarny can receive/check it, then there's no real issue :) | 21:58 |
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| bencoh | (the fact is I no longer live in europe anymore, but I still know a few people that could collect it in paris :D) | 21:58 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: might be worth it then, if you come across a fully working unit | 21:59 |
| KotCzarny | it was with 'broken memory card/camera' so i suspect its just missing magnet | 21:59 |
| bencoh | hmm | 21:59 |
| KotCzarny | and new back cover is ~2usd | 22:00 |
| bencoh | you received one with a missing camera once, right? | 22:00 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 22:00 |
| KotCzarny | but someone in #maemo had one with broken back sensor | 22:01 |
| bencoh | which means roughly $24+20e for a working n900? | 22:01 |
| bencoh | ah | 22:01 |
| KotCzarny | and of course new battery, but that's obvious for almost any device, even 'brand new unopened' | 22:02 |
| KotCzarny | though for development even weak battery will do | 22:02 |
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| bencoh | yeah | 22:04 |
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| KotCzarny | k, the one for 80pln is gone already | 22:33 |
| bencoh | ah | 22:38 |
| KotCzarny | asking another seller for the one for 15usd what damage it has | 22:39 |
| bencoh | thx :) | 22:39 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51! | 22:42 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51! | 22:42 |
| kerio | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Mount | 22:42 |
| kerio | it's happening! | 22:42 |
| KotCzarny | buahaha | 22:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | huh? | 22:43 |
| bencoh | kerio: it's actually a wrapper :) | 22:43 |
| bencoh | but yeah | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | oooh systemd-mount | 22:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | fsck systemd | 22:45 |
| kerio | yes fsck is part of systemd-mount | 22:45 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 22:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | thought as much | 22:45 |
| KotCzarny | systemd - "removing gnu from linux/gnu" | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | and a bit further away: systemd - "removing linux from linux/systemd" | 22:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | honestly, I wonder which part of poettering's brain is damaged for the feeble rest to come up with this systemd abomination ruining a complete OS | 22:47 |
| KotCzarny | doc: moneymoneymoney | 22:47 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: who's more foolish | 22:47 |
| kerio | the fool, or the people who follow him? | 22:47 |
| KotCzarny | kerio, thebest part is people saying 'if systemd is so bad, why all major distributions rolled with systemd" | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 'fool' is the completely wrong term. Evel or sinister is more to the point | 22:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | evil even | 22:49 |
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| KotCzarny | catbutts: if you want playback use my player | 22:50 |
| CatButts | that's not the point of the mention :p | 22:50 |
| KotCzarny | CatButts: just saying :P | 22:51 |
| CatButts | I'll have to get an N900 first | 22:51 |
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| KotCzarny | it works on x86/arm too | 22:51 |
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| CatButts | already have tools in place for that | 22:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRGHAAAAAAARRGGHHHH!!! >> "instead of executing the mount operation directly and immediately, systemd-mount schedules it through the service manager job queue, so that it may pull in further dependencies (such as parent mounts, or a file system checker to execute a priori), and may make use of the auto-mounting logic." << | 23:06 |
| Antiguan | Under SEH Team | 23:06 |
| Wizzup | Focus on the good things. There are still decent distros that don't/will-never depend on systemd | 23:12 |
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| Antiguan | Under SEH Team | 23:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is SEH Team? | 23:51 |
| CatButts | Under butt theme | 23:56 |
| * CatButts rolls on his butt | 23:56 | |
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