| Sicelo | my N900 is stuck in PC Suite Mode :-/ | 00:15 |
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| L29Ah | that's the best mode | 00:19 |
| L29Ah | you can use sshfs to move files | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't need PC suite mode for that ;-) WLAN rocks | 00:29 |
| CatButts | I need a hero | 00:31 |
| CatButts | I'm holding out for a hero | 00:31 |
| CatButts | Till the end of the night | 00:31 |
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| Vajb | im not sure if im crazy or not but i just got me another n900 :) | 00:40 |
| Vajb | that'll be third, but i just couldn't resist the offer on local auction site | 00:41 |
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| Sicelo | Vajb: i also saw a nice N900, but at the time was broke, lol. would been my third too | 00:48 |
| CatButts | gotta stock up on dem spare parts for aging hardware, eh? | 00:49 |
| * L29Ah have stocked five jack replacements | 00:52 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I been at five when Neo900 started | 01:33 |
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| Sicelo | one thing for sure, the failure of my N900 to export via USB Mass Storage is not hardware problem. it exports just fine in BM | 10:29 |
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| Sicelo | if anyone knows how the whole mass storage mechanism works, please ping me .. i am also checking on tmo | 10:31 |
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| Maxdamantus | Sicelo: modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/... | 11:23 |
| Maxdamantus | preferably after making sure other modules beginning with "g_" are unloaded first (including g_file_storage) | 11:24 |
| Sicelo | Maxdamantus: yes, i've just noticed that module. it's not loaded on my N900. i wish to know why it's not though .. what should load it? | 11:25 |
| Maxdamantus | which? g_file_storage? | 11:26 |
| Maxdamantus | I think normally when you attach a USB cable some dialogue box asks you what you want to do, and I think one of the options causes it to load g_file_storage | 11:27 |
| Maxdamantus | I've made my system load g_ether on boot instead so that functionality wouldn't work, because sharing filesystems with live devices seems dodgy to me. | 11:28 |
| Wizzup | I don't think it shares a block device if it is already mounted | 11:28 |
| Maxdamantus | and at some point I changed my system so nothing popped up on USB. | 11:29 |
| Maxdamantus | I don't want to trust that it detects it's unmounted. | 11:29 |
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| Maxdamantus | there are things in the OS that lazily unmount the filesystem at some points, at which point you can't safely ensure the filesystem isn't in use. | 11:30 |
| * Maxdamantus has everything on a single ext4 filesystem anyway | 11:31 | |
| Maxdamantus | (Linux's lack of ability to forcefully unmount filesystems has annoyed me for a while) | 11:35 |
| Wizzup | umount basically does that | 11:35 |
| Wizzup | er lazy* | 11:35 |
| Maxdamantus | Some of them react to some sysrq, but that can't target specific filesystems. | 11:35 |
| Maxdamantus | No. lazy doesn't really do anything at the filesystem level. | 11:36 |
| Maxdamantus | It just makes it so you can't traverse to it through its current mountpoints. | 11:36 |
| Maxdamantus | If processes still have files or directories open they can continue using the filesystem as usual. | 11:36 |
| Wizzup | really? | 11:37 |
| Wizzup | odd | 11:37 |
| Maxdamantus | eg, if you have an instance of `bash` with its cwd inside that filesystem, you can still do everything you normally can, spawn new processes to open files etc | 11:37 |
| Maxdamantus | Well, that's what it means by "lazy" | 11:37 |
| Maxdamantus | (when there are no processes left with references to files/directories in the filesystem it will be properly unmounted) | 11:39 |
| Sicelo | Maxdamantus: my problem is that the dialog does not come up | 11:40 |
| Sicelo | i didn't change any scripts to cause that .. so might have come with something i installed. at this time it would be difficult to even assume what did :P | 11:40 |
| Sicelo | i hardly use mass storage mode | 11:41 |
| Sicelo | but i do want it to work fine | 11:41 |
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| * Maxdamantus can't remember what he did to change it. | 11:51 | |
| Maxdamantus | 21:29 < Maxdamantus> Hm. I figured out how to remove the dialogue that pops up when you connect a USB cable: uninstall hildon-status-bar-usb | 11:52 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe you'd want to reinstall that and see if it does something. | 11:52 |
| Sicelo | thanks. will do. | 11:53 |
| Maxdamantus | or maybe someone else can do `dpkg -L hildon-status-bar-usb` and say what's actually inside it. | 11:53 |
| Sicelo | i have it :) | 11:53 |
| Maxdamantus | Yeah, so see what programs are in it and if they're running. | 11:54 |
| Sicelo | just a *.so | 11:54 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm, so maybe just kill hildon-status-bar and see if something changes when it comes back up. Maybe run syslogd beforehand. | 11:55 |
| Sicelo | very good idea. yes. will do that | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | or reboot | 12:02 |
| KotCzarny | it usually works on every system | 12:02 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo: how was your oscp experience? got any bugs/requests/notes? | 12:03 |
| Sicelo | KotCzarny: i didn't use it for long. just tested a couple of songs that i have, and the videos. request would be something a bit more obvious to indicate a Help that tells one what the keys do | 12:07 |
| KotCzarny | keys or buttons? | 12:07 |
| Sicelo | hwkbd | 12:08 |
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| KotCzarny | i've tried to make it quite intuitive when it comes with navigation, in short, left==go parent dir, right/enter==play highlighted or enter dir, up/down==move | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | Repeat, Shuffle, Quit | 12:09 |
| Sicelo | a help key would be nice ... e.g. use '?' as in mutt | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | dont remember which one is make-recursive-playlist, but you can simply check ~/.oscp/oscp.conf | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | Help | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | press h | 12:09 |
| Sicelo | but where is that shown? | 12:10 |
| Sicelo | you coul have it at the bottom .. at least in 'home' view only | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | in help? a bit further in the text, i might make it more exposed | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | also, which ui are you using? pygtk or ncurses? | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | they differ a bit, but not much | 12:11 |
| Sicelo | i used ncurses | 12:11 |
| KotCzarny | then press h | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | it shows the keys | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | and you can remap almost all keys in config | 12:12 |
| Sicelo | you aren't getting me -- what i am saying is : you have a new oscp user .. how will he know what key does what? | 12:12 |
| KotCzarny | i assumed it obvious. in pygtk there is first time help | 12:13 |
| Sicelo | okay | 12:13 |
| KotCzarny | also, if you run: oscp -h it will show you the keys too | 12:13 |
| KotCzarny | usual linux experience is -h and/or manual | 12:13 |
| KotCzarny | also if you open hwkb you can control console oscp by clicking on screen areas | 12:23 |
| * Sicelo testing wargus ... yay! N900 is still worth keeping | 12:26 | |
| Wizzup | Of course it is worth keeping | 12:27 |
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| KotCzarny | yup. | 12:27 |
| Sicelo | :) | 12:28 |
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| Sicelo | yay .. who said merlin1991 was awol? :) he's approved my extras upload request | 13:44 |
| KotCzarny | but what is council doing? | 13:48 |
| Sicelo | no idea :) | 13:50 |
| Sicelo | publicity? | 13:50 |
| KotCzarny | links? | 13:50 |
| KotCzarny | though keep in mind, not everyone is bound to spend 24/7 checking email/notifications | 13:52 |
| L29Ah | KotCzarny: they're facilitating! | 14:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't council send meeting minutes of all weekly meetings anymore? | 15:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | those should answer pretty accurately what council does | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least the major topics, aside of the recurring standard tasks | 15:35 |
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| jonwil | hi | 15:46 |
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| xes | hi DocScrutinizer05! I suppose sicelo req for upload rights is still pending.. I would approve his req but at the moment i have only limited connectivity. Please could you approve his request? | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: he said it got approved | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if not, I'll try to take care. NP | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | however I have to find the right webpage for approval | 18:20 |
| xes | ok thanks | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh wait, isn't it linked property of a garage project? | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's easy then | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, I#m pretty sure it's the project (or its owner) that has a property of "may upload to extras" in garage | 18:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in the ancient times it possibly went via email, by simply replying "accept" or "reject" | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, meeting | 18:24 |
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| Sicelo | xes: thanks. merlin approved my req :) | 21:42 |
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