IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2016-06-30

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OksanaaKernel with CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER?.. https://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=773900:13
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KotCzarnyoksanaa, just use midi player00:19
KotCzarnyunless you are a musician00:19
KotCzarnybut even then you wouldnt be using n900 for that00:19
Siceloor can use oscp00:22
KotCzarny:)00:23
Sicelo;)00:23
KotCzarnyoscp got better recently ;)00:23
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brolin_empeyKotCzarny: http://www.unex.com.tw/wi-fi/dnma-9200:28
brolin_empeyI just sucessfully installed this model of Mini PCI Wireless LAN card in my solid-state Dell Latitude X1 to replace the original Intel card that stopped working with Windows 8.1 .00:28
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Oksana>> oksanaa, just use midi player unless you are a musician but even then you wouldnt be using n900 for that << I have installed the package for MIDI playback in Media Player, so that's not a problem (though I would dearly like to see a MIDI file with lyrics included, just to test Media Player's (in)ability to display lyrics of music)02:29
OksanaMusicians use iPad (with foot pedal for page-turning) for displaying sheet music while playing. I am not a musician, but I would have liked ability to edit MIDI files on N900 (if only for writing down music like http://www.bachlund.org/Owls_an_Epitaph.htm in computer-readable format, instead of human-readable PDF)02:31
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DocScrutinizer05huh what?? don't ever dry cats or bake PCB board in a *MICROWAVE* oven10:00
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Vajbawww but it would make such nice sparkles10:08
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KotCzarny:>10:32
KotCzarnymaybe a tiny 'splosion even?10:32
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DocScrutinizer05sparkling cats11:04
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DocScrutinizer05((<Sicelo> wut! just worked now)) some router tables fixed themselves? there must be quite a number of routers beween your server and the PC/N90011:11
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xelowow, I'v lefet yesterday and you talked about microwave / hot-air oven comparison, an now: still microwaves. seems to be a "hot" topic11:15
xelo* I've left11:15
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bencohyeah, probably docs reading the backlog ;)11:24
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DocScrutinizer05exactly11:29
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* Oksanaa thinks that while replacing pulseaudio with alsa-only may be a noble goal, pulseaudio is way too deeply integrated with other parts of the system to go easily14:02
OksanaaOkay, mstardict5,I am not sorry to see you go : you should have known better than to depend on pulseaudio-utils14:03
Oksanaamstardict*14:07
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bencohawww14:11
bencohmstardict is cool though14:11
bencoheven if I still need to fix RTL support in it14:12
OksanaaYes, it's cool, even if it would have been preferable to not hard-code espeak dependency. flute could hypothetically work as tts, even if it always gave me trouble14:15
* Oksanaa remembers there was a feature request to have selectable text in mstardict14:16
DocScrutinizer05hardcoding that sort of dependencies is always a knockout criterion at least for the good-programming-style award14:17
OksanaaWell, even libre-chess depends on gnuchess, instead of thinking on possibility of alternative chess engines14:19
* Oksanaa is more sad about dependency on pulseaudio-utils; why is it here at all?14:21
DocScrutinizer05good question14:23
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bencohOksanaa: it can play sound through some text-to-speech module iirc14:39
bencohah, you already saw all that :)14:40
bencohah, utils....14:40
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DocScrutinizer05prolly the usual clueless aproach that every app takes care by itself about assumed optimum audio mixer config14:42
DocScrutinizer05lately firefox started to set my master volume @ 63% whenever I play a video14:42
DocScrutinizer05which **SUCKS**14:42
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DocScrutinizer05that's what a clueless audio server implementation gives you. Many thanks Poettering!14:43
DocScrutinizer05on maemo we got alsaped for that14:43
Oksanaaalsaped?14:44
DocScrutinizer05which to me is pretty much a misnomer, since aiui it enforces PA policies onto PA and maybe ALSA mixer14:44
DocScrutinizer05root       764  0.0  0.5   4872  1292 ?        Ss   Jun19   0:01 /usr/sbin/alsaped -p 4 -f /usr/share/policy/etc/current/alsaped.conf14:45
OksanaaLooking at alsamixer is... confusing. Its volume (playback or capture or all) does not correlate with hildon-volume, afais?14:50
DocScrutinizer05*aiui* somewhere around OHM-* there's a config file with a long list of program names|audiopattern tuples, so the according audio setup (from /usr/share/policy/etc/current/alsaped.conf ?) gets set as soon as the accordingly named process gets started14:51
DocScrutinizer05Oksanaa: alsamixer control names are pretty 'random'14:51
DocScrutinizer05usually they correlate to the mixer chip pin naming, not the actual signal purpose on the particular platform14:52
Oksanaachip: pulseaudio14:52
DocScrutinizer05LOL14:52
Oksanaacard: pulseaudio14:53
Oksanaain short, looks like a wrapper14:53
DocScrutinizer05we have two cards afaik: card0 and card1, and they correspond to modem IIS and to the TLV320AIX34 audiocodec mixer chip14:54
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DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/6981347414:56
DocScrutinizer05don't ask me about card1, it doesn't apply. amixer blows chunks on -c114:57
Oksanaaalsamixer -c 0 gives much more interesting results. card: rx-5114:57
DocScrutinizer05so nfc what's default (omitting -c)14:57
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Juestlspci?14:57
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/4906740414:59
DocScrutinizer05aah not card1, device114:59
DocScrutinizer05or maybe not, really a mess15:00
Juestalsamixer should be a clean/clear way to see audio devices.... i dont understand how oksanaa gets confused15:01
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/5664725115:01
DocScrutinizer05Juest: you would if you tried yourself15:01
JuestI dont have a maemo, is xephyr the same?15:01
DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/30/plasma-desktophL2277.png15:02
Oksanaaxephyr should be similar enough, never tried it myself15:02
Juestoksanaa: its the fremantle sdk btw, a ubuntu lucid VM enviorment15:03
* Oksanaa used MADDE on Windows as development environment, ages ago15:03
Juestand its impossible to do shift+control combinations/hotkeys because shift+control = grab/release input in Xephyr15:04
Juesti wish there's a way to run the emulator in a separate X15:04
Juestrather than Xephyr15:04
DocScrutinizer05alsamixer -c0 :: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/30/plasma-desktopPp2277.png15:05
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DocScrutinizer05funny enough, according to man alsamixer  -c0 is allegedly default15:08
Oksanaafun15:09
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DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/30/plasma-desktopBA2277.png15:15
DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/1517042415:17
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Vajbi think i have spotted the problem with callerx blacklist mode16:07
Vajbblacklistfile is at mydocs and after i plug my phone to pc it refuses all calls so problem seems to be that it doesn't recover from mydocs being mounted to pc16:09
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* drathir still wonder why its keep using non ext fs...16:39
bencohso that it could be mounted on non-linux computers :)17:08
bencohand the only "universal" fs at that time was fat17:09
bencoh(it still is more or less ....)17:09
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erlehmannso i will probably get a replacement n90017:35
erlehmannthe one from my ex17:35
erlehmannthat DocScrutinizer05 repeatedly flashed when it did not work17:35
erlehmannis there someone in berlin who has done the springfix, though?17:35
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KotCzarnyerlehmann: why dont you just buy used n900 in 100% working condition?21:36
KotCzarny20-30usd21:36
erlehmannKotCzarny, I got one from my exgf21:37
erlehmannjust now21:37
erlehmannalso because money is tight right now21:37
KotCzarnyyou've said it was problematic21:37
erlehmanni don't know the thing21:38
erlehmanni will test it21:38
erlehmannalso i think that if i have 2 half-working things i might be able to put together 1 working thing21:39
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