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| jonwil | hi | 02:39 |
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| sunshavi | KotCzarny: r u there? | 03:33 |
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| KotCzarny | sunshavi: hmm? | 07:02 |
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| sunshavi | KotCzarny hey | 08:41 |
| sunshavi | I have a question about the boards | 08:42 |
| sunshavi | chk https://dpaste.de/Am56/raw | 08:51 |
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| KotCzarny | sunshavi: for one they are based on rockchip | 10:01 |
| KotCzarny | which is faster than allwinner | 10:01 |
| KotCzarny | second, probably developed outside of china | 10:01 |
| KotCzarny | as for opi board, go for opi+2e | 10:02 |
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| KotCzarny | http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-Plus-2-E-H3-Quad-Core-1-6GHZ-2GB-RAM-4K-Open-source-development/1553371_32665196281.html | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | (you might probably want to grab some set with power brick etc) | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | for example this one: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Orange-Pi-Plus-2e-SET4-Pi-Plus-2e-Power-Supply-Adapter-Support-Android-Ubuntu-Debian-Better/1553371_32666123166.html | 10:04 |
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| ceene | i'm stuck again with this yappari thing | 13:43 |
| KotCzarny | and i've ordered opi+2e, hooraah! | 13:43 |
| ceene | there's some underlying issue related to session management that affects both receiving and sending messages | 13:43 |
| ceene | the messages i was able to send were via a strange bypass | 13:44 |
| ceene | but the real issue is there still | 13:44 |
| ceene | i'm playing at work with this thing http://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/arty.html | 13:44 |
| ceene | i can't get its ethernet to work :( | 13:46 |
| KotCzarny | :) 2gb, 4x1.3ghz (h3), 3+1usb, av jack, hdmi, gigabit eth, wifi, 16gb emmc, euler connector, mic, ir | 13:47 |
| KotCzarny | price? 35usd + ~4usd shipping | 13:47 |
| ceene | but it's all done! my arty is funnier because i have to implement all those hardware devices in programmable logic, if i want them | 13:47 |
| Vajb | not bad. Now add phone functionality to it | 13:48 |
| KotCzarny | well, there are usb gsm sticks | 13:48 |
| KotCzarny | but i plan it to use as a desktop pc replacement (firefox etc) | 13:48 |
| Vajb | + make it easy to carry and pleasant for eye :p | 13:49 |
| KotCzarny | bare board ftw! | 13:49 |
| KotCzarny | http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1oYIPJFXXXXbOXVXXq6xXFXXX0/222195001/HTB1oYIPJFXXXXbOXVXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg?size=168812&height=800&width=800&hash=f833b1e4c86dad2a51b2e5e03f0b04c4 | 13:49 |
| Vajb | "this my new super cool naked cellphone" | 13:50 |
| bencoh | :] | 15:33 |
| KotCzarny | 'and this is my battery. *points at heavy backpack*' | 15:40 |
| kerio | KotCzarny: bsd support? | 15:45 |
| kerio | also is the usb 3.0 | 15:45 |
| KotCzarny | nope, but the ports are routed directly to chip (ie. not sharing bandwidth) | 15:46 |
| KotCzarny | as for bsd support, does bsd support allwinner h3 soc? | 15:47 |
| kerio | The current target platforms are Allwinner A1x/A20 (sunxi), Freescale i.MX6 (imx) and TI OMAP3/4 (am335x/beagle/panda). | 15:47 |
| kerio | (openbsd) | 15:47 |
| KotCzarny | then no | 15:48 |
| kerio | :( | 15:48 |
| KotCzarny | unless you plan to run in some linux vm | 15:49 |
| kerio | i really need to replace my sheevaplug with something | 15:50 |
| KotCzarny | clearfod ? | 15:52 |
| KotCzarny | clearfog | 15:52 |
| KotCzarny | its pretty decent board | 15:53 |
| KotCzarny | marvell based tho | 15:53 |
| kerio | 6 ethernet tho | 15:54 |
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| KotCzarny | and bunch of sata ports with real throughput | 15:55 |
| kerio | what about braswell instead | 15:55 |
| KotCzarny | dont know, i have high hopes for that opi+2e | 15:57 |
| kerio | https://www.solid-run.com/intel-braswell-family/braswell-som-system-on-module/braswell-som-specifications/ coming soon ;-; | 15:57 |
| KotCzarny | and intel have said it leaves embedded market, havent it? | 15:57 |
| bencoh | not exactly | 15:58 |
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| bencoh | they closed their "digital home" unit (settopboxes) | 15:58 |
| KotCzarny | http://liliputing.com/2016/04/reports-intel-is-killing-off-low-power-atom-chips.html | 15:59 |
| KotCzarny | im talking about this one | 15:59 |
| kerio | or i could go balls deep with a skylake-based mini pc | 16:01 |
| bencoh | well they did announce they'd kill 12k jobs | 16:07 |
| bencoh | so .... | 16:07 |
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| ceene | aaargh | 16:35 |
| ceene | i hate this shit | 16:35 |
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| KotCzarny | sunshavi: have you seen my reply? | 17:18 |
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| sunshavi | no, i am going to check the log | 17:37 |
| sunshavi | ok. I have saw it. Nice. also rockchip is 28 nm | 17:38 |
| KotCzarny | also always check vendor/software support | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | because even best cpu is useless without software | 17:39 |
| sunshavi | yeah, but unix comes to the rescue :) | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | not always | 17:40 |
| sunshavi | And You have probed unix runs there | 17:40 |
| sunshavi | mmm. All those boards say they support Android and Linux | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | marketing | 17:41 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny: fireprime even supports android 5.1 | 17:41 |
| KotCzarny | you want either full drivers or mainline drivers | 17:41 |
| KotCzarny | unless you are happy with unknown quality droid | 17:41 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny: what is "unknown quality droid"? | 17:42 |
| KotCzarny | that it might be full of bugs | 17:42 |
| sunshavi | then i should wait for u board to arrive :p | 17:42 |
| sunshavi | fireprime has source code available for android 5.1 and linus version of unix | 17:43 |
| KotCzarny | does it have active user base too? | 17:44 |
| sunshavi | it seems so. Mailing list. support email | 17:45 |
| sunshavi | see: http://wiki.t-firefly.com/index.php/FirePrime/Build_kernel/en | 17:46 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny: i am gmt -0500. What about You? | 17:46 |
| KotCzarny | cest (+2) | 17:47 |
| KotCzarny | i mean gmt+2 | 17:47 |
| sunshavi | ok. That's the reason our schedule in not the same | 17:47 |
| sunshavi | i undrertood. do not worry | 17:48 |
| sunshavi | what is ur ETA for ur new board? | 17:48 |
| KotCzarny | paid for it today | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | usual delivery from china is 7-15 days | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | if there are customs problems another few days | 17:49 |
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| sunshavi | ok, to here is almost a month too | 17:53 |
| KotCzarny | if you are in usa you might contact loverpi shop | 17:53 |
| KotCzarny | https://www.loverpi.com/ | 17:55 |
| sunshavi | no. South America | 17:56 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny: h3 is 28 nm too. What makes rockchip better than allwinner? | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | is it? | 18:00 |
| sunshavi | http://linux-sunxi.org/H3 | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:01 |
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| Sicelo | ceene: what's up? | 18:22 |
| Sicelo | ah, i've read backscroll now | 18:23 |
| ceene | Sicelo: i hate everyone :D | 18:23 |
| ceene | well, mostly whatsapp engineers | 18:23 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:23 |
| ceene | and all the whatsapp users too | 18:23 |
| ceene | my time would be better spent making yappari use telegram | 18:24 |
| * Sicelo thinks ceene will have no gf soon, lol | 18:24 | |
| ceene | i don't hate here | 18:24 |
| ceene | she's cool | 18:24 |
| ceene | s/here/her/ | 18:24 |
| Sicelo | doesn't use whatsapp? :p | 18:24 |
| ceene | infobot: you should learn how to replace on lines previous to the last | 18:24 |
| ceene | yep, but we work together | 18:24 |
| ceene | so if i want to talk to her i just change office and go talk to her | 18:24 |
| Sicelo | oh, wow! | 18:25 |
| KotCzarny | technology! | 18:25 |
| ceene | she's the pcb maker for our radars | 18:26 |
| ceene | well, designer | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | is she real? | 18:26 |
| ceene | lol | 18:26 |
| ceene | do you want one? | 18:26 |
| ceene | she has a sister | 18:26 |
| ceene | but is a doctor | 18:26 |
| KotCzarny | O.o | 18:26 |
| ceene | if neo900 wants to contract us both, we're willing to think about it | 18:27 |
| ceene | we're quite tired of radars and our boss | 18:27 |
| ceene | we're the perfect team | 18:28 |
| ceene | http://imgur.com/a/rKm7D | 18:33 |
| ceene | two of her boards | 18:33 |
| ceene | 1.0 and 2.0 | 18:33 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:34 |
| ceene | in 2.0 the first beer is empty because we've already drank it | 18:34 |
| ceene | they don't let us introduce beers in our circuits anymore :( | 18:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: we could use a good layouter | 18:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | according to the icons I guess the board revisions are b1 and b01 | 18:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 18:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, you already explained that | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't mind beers in Neo900 :-) | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how about 8-layer? | 19:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in-pad vias, BGA? | 19:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eagle? | 19:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I suck as layouter, so I'd love to outsource this | 19:02 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 needs an alternative to mouse, wrist hurts | 19:03 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eyetracking maybe? | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: anyway I can't hire anybody, only contract | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | query me | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OHNOES! mg.pov.lt down? | 19:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, only slow | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or is that just my DSL? | 19:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.experten-arbeit-stärken.de/ | 20:38 |
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| ceene | DocScrutinizer05: ahycka uses altium | 22:22 |
| ceene | her first bga design will be this term, with an artix7, and after that a kintex7 | 22:23 |
| ceene | maybe a zynq someday too | 22:23 |
| ceene | that'll be 12 layers possibly | 22:23 |
| ceene | she's routed a couple 8GHz designs too | 22:25 |
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| ceene | there she is | 22:27 |
| ahycka | Hi :) | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi! | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | altium is fine, just we don't have it | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm absolutely sure altium can import eagle schematics, but could it export layouts to eagle format? | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (eagle layout aka .brd format isn't that bad nowadays. Plaintext XML) | 22:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/41821225 | 22:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ahycka: ^^^ | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | BBL | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if we can't have .brd files for eagle, we need to ponder if it nevertheless can get done | 22:40 |
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| ceene | https://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Importing+and+Exporting+Design+Files | 22:58 |
| ceene | altium can read eagle fies, wirte not so much | 22:58 |
| ceene | ohp yes it can | 22:58 |
| ceene | .brd files | 22:58 |
| ceene | SDRC-IDF Brd Files (*.brd) | 22:59 |
| ahycka | DocScrutinizer05 i can try export a project from altium to eagle and see what happend then when i'll open in eagle and viceversa | 22:59 |
| ahycka | and, anyway, i dont mind learn eagle | 23:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ahycka: sounds good | 23:47 |
| ahycka | :) | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'd also not mind learning/using altium. If only it wasn't the need to buy it first, and the problem to share the files to community then | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | :) | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the eagle router is rather crappy | 23:49 |
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| ceene | is there a repo with neo900 schematics/pcb? | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmmm, see what's in neo900.org/resources - I dunno if I published the project files of recent design, prolly not since there are actually vampires out there :) | 23:58 |
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