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| Sicelo | incidentally, i've been looking at icecast2 for n900. we've got the server in the repos | 00:02 |
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| Sicelo | and also a client, qice | 00:02 |
| KotCzarny | it could also work as a video player in similar setup too, though video quality is low via cvbs cable | 00:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: so what's your status regarding https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9150 ? | 04:49 |
| povbot | Bug 9150: Device doesn't respond via UI. syslog reports HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered, sgx_misr eating all CPU | 04:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: ((another N900 thing to understand is dsme)) it's rather simple, except a few detail things around dbus. dsmetool --help | 04:54 |
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| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: has not happened again for now | 08:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it's sounding weird but a lot of bugreporters claim - directly or implicitly - that the PVR trouble only occurs when they are on cellular and doing whatever sort of communication (data download, SMS, inbound call...) | 09:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly with poor signal | 09:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | downloading lots if tiles with marble seems to trigger the issue more or less instantly (within minutes) | 09:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of* | 09:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/seems to/allegedly/ | 09:19 |
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| Sicelo | yeah, although in my case device was just laying on table with no programs open, except xterminal->ssh | 09:42 |
| Sicelo | i was napping at the time :) | 09:42 |
| KotCzarny | you never know what happens in those tiny black boxes | 09:42 |
| KotCzarny | there might be hidden life | 09:42 |
| Sicelo | of course | 09:52 |
| Sicelo | although not of the nature described in the bug. unfortunately the bug died the death of dozens other bug reports ... with no really good explanation about causes, or solutions. it ended that it was more a fight than anything else | 09:53 |
| Sicelo | i doubt it will happen again too soon on my N900 | 09:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ((no programs open)) would be nice to know if the modem did a re-register at that time | 10:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or some inbound (or even outbound) data got transferred | 10:00 |
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| Sicelo | on (my) N900 there's always "Received Phone.Net.registration_status_change" | 10:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | let me put it this way: if it was _really_ the cmt TX that kills PVR, we're completely out of luck since that's a complete WONTFIX | 10:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hw level | 10:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so we rather should check if *maybe* it's related to cgroups changes etc | 10:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also the linux kernel driver for PVR could use some scrutiny if it maybe does silly things, after all I doubt that the PVR resets itself completely autonomously without *any* help from kernel, if only for uploading some init values or whatever | 10:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and last not least the PVR blob itself (did I read 'microkernel'?) has some leaked sources afaik. If not for this particular version, so maybe nevertheless with the buggy code in it | 10:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | once you spotted the bug in one PVR blob version's sourcecode, you could find and binary-patch it in other blob versions too, as long as they have the same bug | 10:38 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, is a7 instruction set compatible with a8 used in n900? | 11:06 |
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| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: im actually not finding what 'PVR' is in this context! | 11:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | PowerVR | 11:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gfx | 11:51 |
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| enyc | aah | 11:54 |
| enyc | dreaded driver related fun ;p | 11:54 |
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| Oksanaa | GCompris is eating 36%CPU when user is doing nothing. It's also completely not-maemonised (press 2 shift keys at the same time, really?). And it has unacknowledged dependency on libmikmod2 | 12:23 |
| Oksanaa | Moves slowly (because eats lots of CPU?) screen will be in shambles from frustrated user | 12:24 |
| Oksanaa | leif is nice, but cannot handle too fast clicking (crashes) and should be re-written in GTK+C | 12:25 |
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| zamn900 | hello | 13:14 |
| zamn900 | again yappari is that unfortunate app in these days | 13:15 |
| zamn900 | what's wrong? | 13:15 |
| zamn900 | it updated to version 2.0.28 | 13:16 |
| zamn900 | but it's a hollow app | 13:16 |
| zamn900 | hollow update I mean | 13:16 |
| ceene | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1503625&postcount=1397 | 13:16 |
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| zamn900 | holy crap I already used the previous versione once I found out this new one was empty | 13:22 |
| zamn900 | so what am I banned? | 13:23 |
| zamn900 | and about stay tuned ... how? | 13:23 |
| zamn900 | I am aware btw of off the record implementation of whatsapp | 13:23 |
| zamn900 | how can that be so difficult... I don't know... don't realize why... | 13:24 |
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| ceene | just keep reading the thread in case something happens | 13:39 |
| zamn900 | :| | 13:40 |
| zamn900 | maybe I will come here on our chat | 13:41 |
| ceene | Floating point exception (core dumped) | 13:49 |
| ceene | but there's no core | 13:49 |
| ceene | even when -c: core file size (blocks) unlimited | 13:50 |
| ceene | (that's on the n900 itself) | 13:50 |
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| ceene | ah, that's gonna be something that i installed | 14:02 |
| ceene | richo core dump | 14:02 |
| ceene | or something like that | 14:02 |
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| ceene | i still don't know the origin of that exception :/ | 14:44 |
| ceene | there's some empty variable whose origin i don't understand | 14:45 |
| ceene | even more so when i think this exact same code worked yesterday... | 14:45 |
| Linkandzelda | would it be hard on the n900's battery to make a script which checks for server uptime and beeps like crazy when something goes down? | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | depends on how often | 15:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | scripts with a sleep 30 have little impact on battery life | 15:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sleep 300 even better | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I just can't make all sense of "checks for server uptime" and "when something goes down" | 15:02 |
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| Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: my plan was just to ping once and if there is no reply then its down | 15:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm sounds pretty simple, I could recommend manpages once more ;-) | 15:09 |
| Vajb | yappari .27 still works for me btw | 15:09 |
| Sicelo | nice. :) | 15:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while ping -w1 -qn 9.9.9.9 &>/dev/null; do sleep 60;done;playsound loudalarm.wav | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if you wanna run this from a *mobile* device though. Not because of battery but because of ... mobile and connectivity | 15:17 |
| Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: any reason not to make it run as a cron? | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no cron on maemo | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no decent one | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | use alarmed | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or alarmd | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but why? | 15:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get install alarmed | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you like excellent app with both GUI and cmdline interface | 15:21 |
| Sicelo | and it works verrry well :) | 15:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only thing that lacks iirc: | 15:22 |
| * Sicelo uses it for logrotate & other stuff | 15:22 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# ll `which alarmed` | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2014-12-06 12:41 /usr/bin/alarmed -> /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you don't want to type /opt/alarmed/alarmed.py in shell, so make that symlink | 15:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: I hope so, I mentored it | 15:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | half the options are my suggestion | 15:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also note that alarmed depends on alarmd, and the latter has a bugfixed version in CSSU | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get alarmclient | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alarmclient --help | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | have fun, know alarmclient and enjoy alarmed | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: you give me ideas | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway cron / alarmed is prolly overkill for a simple "while ping -w1 -qn $SERVERIP &>/dev/null; do sleep 60;done;playsound loudalarm.wav" | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: ((any reason?)) quick&dirty | 15:29 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 almost said nice 'n sleazy | 15:29 | |
| Linkandzelda | fair enough | 15:31 |
| Sicelo | i don't know what -w1 -qn does .. /me check man page | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://youtu.be/5_MMTXPs4qE?t=138 | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -w1 is wait for 1 reply -n is do no DNS lookup, and -q supposedly does only summary output, though the latter seems to not work as expected | 15:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | note that this isn't really thoroughly tested | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ping options are a tiny bit weird | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I searched for a "abort on first packet loss" but that doesn't seem to exist | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you got other funny options though, try -a ;-) | 15:35 |
| Linkandzelda | bit of a shame about the cron, whats not good with it exactly? | 15:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmXL0Fw7a_A | 15:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cron is not made for zeroclock architecture | 15:40 |
| Sicelo | Linkandzelda: nothing. nothing's bad with alarmd either :) | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alarmd does nifty stuff to conserve energy | 15:40 |
| Sicelo | alarmd is *already* on every N900 .. so may be better to just use it | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while cron is braindamaged on embedded | 15:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but honestly just use a do loop with a sleep $N | 15:41 |
| Linkandzelda | alarmd sounds like something i can use then | 15:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, you can use alarmd, and you could even use alarmclient, but alarmed is so much nicer | 15:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/alarmed/ - even comes with a cron-like cmdline syntax option | 15:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen shapeshifter | 15:45 |
| infobot | shapeshifter <~Shapeshif@parakeet.ifi.uzh.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 42d 22h 52m 17s ago, saying: 'DocScrutinizer05: ping doesn't work'. | 15:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O? | 15:45 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: also why would you "while ping -w1 -qn 9.9.9.9" .... 9.9.9.9 is actual IBM ip address | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 9.9.9.9 is my birthday ;-P | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Linkandzelda: http://paste.opensuse.org/88819946 | 15:47 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.3.4 are addresses pollutedby such rubbish generation and excluded on purpose from assignment ... | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I used 9.9.9.9 after 8.8.8.8 | 15:48 |
| enyc | there was a whole study on this etc | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | heck, I hope Linkandzelda is capable to replace 9.9.9.9 with the IP of own server to monitor | 15:49 |
| Linkandzelda | heh | 15:52 |
| kerio | ping 8.8.8.8, if it doesn't work then google is down | 15:55 |
| kerio | or more likely, your internet connection is down | 15:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | which is exactly why I questioned the purpose of running this on N900. I mean how often N900 connectivity is down for a while | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'd at least need a connectivity check aka ping to known good target like 8.8.8.8 before you check your own server | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you don't want false positives (alarms) just because N900 switches from WLAN to GPRS | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or other way round | 16:09 |
| Linkandzelda | DocScrutinizer05: makes sense, then i'll do that as well to check google | 16:11 |
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| _5a54a_ | Hello | 17:33 |
| _5a54a_ | maemo.org seems to bock my ip | 17:34 |
| _5a54a_ | block | 17:34 |
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| Sicelo | so this SGX thing happened again today ... again device was not being actively used | 18:08 |
| Sicelo | anyway, no time for it right now | 18:13 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | _5a54a_: proxy or tor? | 18:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~unbanip | 18:20 |
| infobot | well, unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request, or see ~techstaff, or see https://www.stopforumspam.com/removal | 18:20 |
| _5a54a_ | VPN | 18:23 |
| _5a54a_ | PIA | 18:24 |
| _5a54a_ | Is PIA being blocked? | 18:27 |
| azkay | Anyone know what would stop programs from playing sound on my n900? stock media player plays music fine, but no other media players have sound | 18:32 |
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| Sicelo | such as which player? | 18:33 |
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| Sicelo | check that you're not in silent profile. a non mafw-based player will usually go silent too :) | 18:34 |
| azkay | Weird, now everything is working fine. lol | 18:35 |
| azkay | I spent an hour on the bus 2 days ago using up my data downloading different players to get it working, haha. | 18:35 |
| azkay | Must have been the profile, I would have had it on silent before. Now it's on normal | 18:35 |
| azkay | Thanks :) | 18:35 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | _5a54a_: I believe the list from stopforumspam is used | 18:49 |
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| ceene | the guy from purple-whatsapp has also ended the project | 21:48 |
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| Sicelo | ceene: okay | 22:54 |
| Sicelo | so ... light dims? | 22:54 |
| APic | Candles ♥ | 22:58 |
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| ceene | Sicelo: probably... there's a guy who says he has code for latest protocol version | 23:44 |
| ceene | but for some reason won't share it yet... | 23:45 |
| ceene | coderus's libwa should have been working | 23:46 |
| ceene | and 8mve ported most of yappari to use it | 23:46 |
| ceene | but for some reason i keep geting login failure | 23:47 |
| ceene | so right now i'm quite frustrated | 23:47 |
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