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| azkay | Why is it so hard to find a smalllll fm receiver that DOESN'T need a microcontroller to use? ): | 08:24 |
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| azkay | I got some cheapo chinese FM headphones, but the pcb inside is too big to use, booo | 08:27 |
| ecc3g | those push to tune receivers using the *9088 tuner chips? | 08:34 |
| ecc3g | scary that SMT is still too big... | 08:35 |
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| Sicelo | anyone here going to DebConf16? | 11:47 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | anyone here got debian running on their n900? i finally got it installed via: https://github.com/dderby/debian900 | 12:50 |
| HRH_H_Crab | things seem to be working really nicely so far, but im a bit stuck with audio. | 12:50 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i read something about speaker damage and pulseaudio and xprot but im not really sure what to make of that. | 12:51 |
| Sicelo | these days there are many more running alt.os on N900 :) Wizzup one of them .. maybe he can help you | 12:52 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i think my (glorious 4.0.0-rc1+) kernel comes from Pali | 12:54 |
| HRH_H_Crab | he may well know. | 12:54 |
| Sicelo | what doesn't he know ;) | 12:54 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i should look at his sources too | 12:54 |
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| drathir | HRH_H_Crab: alarm rulez... | 13:41 |
| HRH_H_Crab | drathir: not sure what you mean? | 14:01 |
| L29Ah | нян | 14:01 |
| Sicelo | he means arch linux | 14:02 |
| drathir | ijai? | 14:03 |
| drathir | L29Ah: szto eta? | 14:04 |
| drathir | HRH_H_Crab: Sicelo is correct https://archlinuxarm.org | 14:05 |
| Wizzup | HRH_H_Crab: hi there | 14:09 |
| Wizzup | I have gotten audio to work on 4.3 and 4.5 from Pali | 14:09 |
| Wizzup | You mostly just need to tweak a few ALSA settings | 14:09 |
| Wizzup | I have them documented here somewhere... | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | Right, see: http://sprunge.us/aPeU | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | Specifically the last two items are important | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | (just the volume change is not so important) | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | Hm, I recall there being more changes. Well, see if you can figure it out with this. If not, let me know | 14:11 |
| Wizzup | You can use amixer to dump the current config - that's how I made the diff | 14:11 |
| L29Ah | can you make voice calls? | 14:16 |
| Wizzup | L29Ah: for most usable purposes, no. pavelm managed to make some voice calls using mainline and ofono | 14:17 |
| Wizzup | but I don't think it is "quite there" yet | 14:17 |
| Wizzup | sms and data seems to work on gentoo at least | 14:17 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | im getting lots of segfaults | 15:12 |
| HRH_H_Crab | maybe i need a newer kernel | 15:12 |
| Wizzup | segfaults in what | 15:15 |
| HRH_H_Crab | things like installing mplayer / pulseaudio | 15:16 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | anyway... | 15:17 |
| HRH_H_Crab | gonna rebuild the rootfs and use a newer kernel. | 15:17 |
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| ceene | Wizzup: what file is that patch for? | 15:21 |
| Wizzup | ceene: it's not a patch, it's a diff for amixer output | 15:21 |
| Wizzup | so you can figure out what things to change in ALSA | 15:21 |
| ceene | ah! | 15:22 |
| ceene | won't that break speakers? | 15:22 |
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| KotCzarny | just add highpass filter to alsa ? | 15:22 |
| KotCzarny | or just remember to use headphones | 15:23 |
| Wizzup | ceene: if you play too loud, you might. | 15:25 |
| Wizzup | I used speakers without problems for a bit, but I was very careful to not play too loud | 15:25 |
| HRH_H_Crab | hmmm. | 15:26 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i don't understand this "speaker breaking" issue. i was planning to use it a lot for audio but maybe i should knock that idea on the head and leave that to maemo. | 15:26 |
| KotCzarny | onboard speakers cant handle too much displacement | 15:27 |
| KotCzarny | ~xprot | 15:27 |
| infobot | rumour has it, xprot is http://wiki.maemo.org/Porting/Audio/Q_and_A_RE-PA and http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91325 | 15:27 |
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| ceene | I've got a few things in a Notes file | 15:36 |
| ceene | regarding kernel and rootfs build for n900 | 15:36 |
| ceene | https://github.com/agamez/buildroot-N900 and https://github.com/agamez/buildroot-N900/blob/master/Notes | 15:36 |
| ceene | recently updated with Wizzup's alsa details :) | 15:37 |
| Wizzup | I have more notes that I plan to publish in a more usable form later | 15:38 |
| ceene | that'd be cool | 15:39 |
| ceene | those are just notes that I take while building the system | 15:39 |
| Wizzup | :) | 15:40 |
| Wizzup | same here | 15:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | moin folks | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: (audio) \o/. How about a comprehensive amixer -c0>working.amixer-in | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | amixer -c1>>working.amixer-in | 16:44 |
| Wizzup | The problem is that I currently only have a working mixer. So I'd have to save that, reset to default state, and do that | 16:44 |
| Wizzup | I can do that in a bit. But I want to double verify that it works >>atm<< | 16:44 |
| Wizzup | and I need to do some work first | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | working mixer is better than non-working mixer anyway - even for setting same stuff on other devices. You don't need to know what been wrong before | 16:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | amixer is a tiny bit braindamaged in that it can't take own output for STDIN. Use `alsactl -f working.alsactl 0 store` | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/5135500 | 16:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ^^^ is standard fremantle, incl frigiin PA over ALSA | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while idle | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | `alsactl -f working.alsactl 0 restore` does exactly what it says | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | note the REstore | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is inverse to store | 16:55 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 doesn't know if fremantle has the pretty much default `alsactl restore` (without -f, so it uses the defualt config file) in boot | 16:57 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>/var/lib/alsa/asound.state (or whatever file you specify with the -f flag) is used to store current settings for your soundcards.<< | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | > /etc/rc0.d/K50alsa-utils: alsactl -F restore $CARD >/dev/null 2>&1 | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wow what a monster: http://paste.opensuse.org/57226342 | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and pretty weird on maemo too. anyway I don't have a /var/lib/alsa/asound.state | 17:11 |
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| Linkandzelda | hi, so i just picked up an n900. i havent had one since 2010. seems the nokia repos and ovi repos are no longer working? is there a replacement? | 20:07 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 20:08 |
| infobot | it has been said that maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | but those are mostly for reinstalling user induced b0rkages | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | ovi store is no more too | 20:09 |
| Sicelo | ovi repos are mirrored on maemo-repos.com afaik | 20:09 |
| Linkandzelda | i see | 20:10 |
| Linkandzelda | thanks | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | if you need reflashing then: | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 20:10 |
| infobot | it has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh; or see ~flashing-cmdline | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | grab the script, unpack and run | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | it will fetch needed files on the go | 20:10 |
| Linkandzelda | thanks, though i already managed to kill an image today and just reflashed about 30 mins ago :) | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 20:11 |
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| Linkandzelda | one other thing, does maemo have a chance of getting vsync or a screen tear fix? | 20:39 |
| Sicelo | restart :) | 20:40 |
| Sicelo | you have that? | 20:40 |
| Linkandzelda | i have screen tearing yea. im about to install cssu and see if it resolves it | 20:40 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, the last person to hack around vsync was ssvb in ~2009 | 20:41 |
| KotCzarny | i might be wrong tho | 20:41 |
| Linkandzelda | surprising that nobody else attempted it since | 20:41 |
| Linkandzelda | though funny thing, i dont remember it back in 2010, maybe i didnt notice | 20:42 |
| Sicelo | i've had it only 3 times in 5 years of daily N900 use | 20:44 |
| Linkandzelda | interesting | 20:45 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | same here, about the same as above. | 20:51 |
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| Linkandzelda | i have a small issue with the application manager. it takes about 5 mins to open and display the categories. then after i install an app it does the same thing and takes 30-40 seconds to show the old list before i can install another app. is there a way to speed that up? | 23:30 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Linkandzelda: not really | 23:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~ham | 23:51 |
| infobot | ham is, like, Hildon Application Manager. Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does, or see ~speedyham | 23:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there is speedyham but that is a testing thing at the moment | 23:52 |
| Linkandzelda | i just found fam, much better! | 23:58 |
| Sicelo | much worse | 23:58 |
| Linkandzelda | how is it worse? | 23:58 |
| Sicelo | fam | 23:58 |
| Sicelo | ~fam | 23:58 |
| infobot | [fapman] Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 23:58 |
| Linkandzelda | damn | 23:59 |
| Linkandzelda | i should get with the times | 23:59 |
| Sicelo | either be patient enough with ham, or just get speedyham instead | 23:59 |
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