| kerio | why not openbsd | 00:00 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: hmm, maybe upgrade github to 4.6-rc2 without sre's patches, so if it doesn;t work we will know who to blame | 00:00 |
| freemangordon | Pali: as I fixed video-bus-switch driver and both cameras give green only output | 00:00 |
| freemangordon | but I am not sure if the problem is not in sre's patches | 00:01 |
| Pali | I do not want to remove those patches from tree so we do not lost them | 00:02 |
| Pali | but you can easily run git rebase -i | 00:02 |
| Pali | and remove them from your local repo | 00:02 |
| freemangordon | you won;t lose them they are in the other branches | 00:02 |
| freemangordon | Pali: wasn't pavel working on BT driver? | 00:03 |
| Pali | not anymore | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | oh. any idea why? | 00:03 |
| Pali | his driver was removed from mainline | 00:03 |
| Pali | I still have copy in -n900 branches | 00:03 |
| Pali | that version is working | 00:03 |
| Pali | but not acceptable for mainline anymore | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | any idea wht needs to be done for upstreaming? | 00:03 |
| Pali | using sre version :-) | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | which doesn't work? | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | :D | 00:04 |
| Pali | that uses in kernel omap uart driver | 00:04 |
| Pali | basically it is rewritten to use "correctly" bluetooth api | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | is it in mainline? | 00:04 |
| Pali | sre's version not | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | any clue if he is going to send patches? | 00:05 |
| Pali | sre has it in his tree | 00:05 |
| Pali | not going | 00:05 |
| Pali | as he did not touched for more months | 00:05 |
| Pali | now hacking n950 | 00:05 |
| Pali | not n900 | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | hmm, maybe we should ask him what are his plans | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | anyway, /me is going afk, night | 00:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | is it a question of hiring him to continue his N900 work? | 00:13 |
| jonwil | Pali: Where did that libicd-network-wlan code/git repo come from? | 00:15 |
| Pali | from gitorious or garage | 00:18 |
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| jonwil | Time to update some of these packages on my N900 :) | 00:23 |
| jonwil | btw it seems like my new set of root CAs in maemo-security-certman is working great | 00:25 |
| bencoh | do you have an automated build process for that? | 00:26 |
| jonwil | Only issue is people who have wrong certificates stored in the microb certificate store and are unable to simply wipe the certificate store like I did (i.e. they have manually added certs) | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | diff? | 00:26 |
| jonwil | I have a set of steps that could (in theory) be automated | 00:26 |
| jonwil | I pushed the commits to CSSU Git a couple months ago | 00:27 |
| ecc3g | clear | 00:27 |
| * ecc3g finds a / | 00:27 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever that means | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: could you do a (sort|)diff between user cert store and devault stock cert store, to find the certs user added manually and insert them to the new store in post-install? | 00:29 |
| jonwil | There is probably a way to remove the bogus certificates somehow but I haven't found out how | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey, I'm sure somebody can help with that | 00:30 |
| jonwil | The NSS people haven't been able to help really | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if not (maybe it's broken), go the dif&add path | 00:30 |
| jonwil | Basically the problem we have is this: | 00:31 |
| jonwil | When you visit site xyz on the stock set of certificates, it gets sent a certain certificate for a particular CA and stores it in the certificate database for some reason | 00:32 |
| jonwil | Then when you visit the same site on the new set of certificates, it gets a totally different certificate chain but the bogus stored certificate causes it to fail | 00:32 |
| jonwil | So we need a way to loop all the certificates in the certificate store, identify these automatically cached/added certificates and remove them without removing anything manually added | 00:33 |
| jonwil | any kind of diffing wont help here | 00:33 |
| kerio | jonwil: just delete the whole shebang | 00:33 |
| kerio | ez | 00:33 |
| jonwil | but then people loose certificates they manually added and need to keep | 00:34 |
| jonwil | and may not be able to re-add for various reasons | 00:34 |
| kerio | what was the issue again? | 00:34 |
| kerio | miscached intermediates? | 00:34 |
| jonwil | yes | 00:34 |
| kerio | causing which error, exactly? | 00:35 |
| jonwil | I cant remember off the top of my head | 00:37 |
| jonwil | speaking of which, there is a new set of mozilla root CAs out which I will import into CSSU git now :) | 00:37 |
| kerio | can we get some chacha20-poly1305 up in this | 00:38 |
| kerio | idk how updateable NSS by itself is | 00:39 |
| kerio | probably not much | 00:39 |
| jonwil | It should be possible to update it, we have code for all the things that talk to it as far as I know | 00:41 |
| jonwil | so we can make changes if we need dto | 00:41 |
| jonwil | need to | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://dowse.eu/ | 00:42 |
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| jonwil | ok, newest mozilla root CA certs are in cssu git now :) | 01:01 |
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| Wizzup | :)! | 01:13 |
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| jon_y | freemangordon: what are the complications with using linaro? | 01:27 |
| jon_y | I'm familiar with rebuilding toolchains | 01:27 |
| jonwil | damn, I just remembered why I hate compiling OpenSSL. It takes hours to do it :( | 01:28 |
| xes | ~~ | 01:34 |
| xes | hours? | 01:35 |
| kerio | 10.77s here | 01:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | I guess joga is building on target | 02:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | jonwil: | 02:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xchat nick completion sucks | 02:46 |
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| jonwil | no, I am not building on target, I am building on my scratchbox dev vm | 02:53 |
| jonwil | it didn't take as long as I thought it would | 02:53 |
| jonwil | the shuny new Core i5 I bought a few months ago may have helped there... | 02:54 |
| jonwil | ok, thats got the latest versions of the CSSU git repos I care about onto my phone :) | 02:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | n8 | 03:10 |
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| ceene | well, i got a volunteer that wants to help me with yappari | 09:22 |
| ceene | although I'm afraid he's less experienced than me in qt, but is experienced on c#, so at least he'll have better oop concepts than me | 09:23 |
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| Maxdamantus | OOP as in fragile class hierarchies, complicated subtyping and statefulness everywhere? | 09:33 |
| bencoh | :] | 09:33 |
| ceene | yes | 09:35 |
| ceene | alongside asynchronous shit that shouldn't need be | 09:35 |
| bencoh | tbh I'd rather have everything async | 09:37 |
| ceene | conceptually it's nice | 09:38 |
| ceene | but in practices i don't like that much | 09:38 |
| Maxdamantus | I'd rather have everything based around composing unperformed operations that aren't necessarily async or sync. | 09:39 |
| Maxdamantus | (like in Haskell) | 09:39 |
| ceene | sounds more fun than useful | 09:40 |
| Maxdamantus | I find it quite useful even in Java. | 09:40 |
| Maxdamantus | (8) | 09:40 |
| Maxdamantus | Seems a lot easier to reason about than CPS or those silly Rx libraries. | 09:42 |
| Maxdamantus | though I might be slightly biased by the fact that monads solve every fucking problem but noone knows about them. | 09:42 |
| bencoh | riiiight. | 09:42 |
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| ceene | Sicelo: obdgpslogger is already packaged for debian | 10:01 |
| ceene | so you may practically reuse all its debian/ directory to make a package for maemo | 10:01 |
| bencoh | with some heavy patching to make it play nice with our deps and our debtools, I suspect | 10:02 |
| ceene | usually it's not heavy patching, just light :) | 10:03 |
| ceene | even more so with such a simple program | 10:03 |
| ceene | with so few dependencies | 10:03 |
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| ceene | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libfltk1.1 (>= 1.1.8~rc1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgps22 (>= 3.3), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libx11-6 | 10:03 |
| ceene | Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libfltk1.1 (>= 1.1.8~rc1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgps22 (>= 3.3), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libx11-6 | 10:03 |
| ceene | ups | 10:03 |
| ceene | if versions match, there's probably not a thing that must be really changed | 10:04 |
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| bencoh | ooh, fltk :) | 11:41 |
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| Sicelo | ceene: re: obdgpslogger - http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1502733&postcount=1 | 18:49 |
| Sicelo | :) | 18:49 |
| Sicelo | ah, i see what you mean .. creating a deb? will look at that | 18:50 |
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| stryngs | Is there a way to increase Reception/Transmission power for the n900's cell phone transmitter? | 22:12 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | you could check the aerial has a good connection if you have signal issues. | 22:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | stryngs: other than what sixwheeledbeast said, no | 23:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | stryngs: there are no particular signal strength issues known in N900 | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | stryngs: you can connect an external antenna to the service jack inside N900. Not really recommended though | 23:27 |
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