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| jonwil | hi | 05:09 |
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| Vajb | hey jonwil | 05:36 |
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| Maxdamantus | jonwil: looks like they might not fix the & thing after all. | 07:14 |
| jonwil | damn | 07:14 |
| jonwil | What did they say? | 07:15 |
| Maxdamantus | “Based on our initial investigation this doesn't look like it would allow an injection of HTML metacharacters which could lead to XSS (i.e. this would require < to be unescaped as well). However, if you are able to cause the server output to contained such unescaped characters, it would definitely be a problem -- if that's the case, please let us know!” | 07:16 |
| Maxdamantus | I suspect it probably is still a problem, but I don't really have evidence for it. | 07:16 |
| Maxdamantus | It would be very strange if it just happened to be an issue with &. | 07:16 |
| Maxdamantus | I saw there was a supposed company on Google maps in China somewhere called "<script>alert(1)</script>", but it was marked as invalid. | 07:17 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe that's what they mean by "unable"—there's an assumption that the people who validate places that are able to appear in search results are able to identify potentially malicious company names. | 07:18 |
| Maxdamantus | but really, all you need to do is create an actual company called something like "Web <script>s ltd." | 07:19 |
| jonwil | Yeah its quite possible they already have stuff at the Google Maps level to block (or rename) marker points with <> symbols in the name | 07:20 |
| jonwil | Anyhow it seems like they are saying "its not a security issue therefore we aren't going to put any priority into it" not "we will never fix the problem" | 07:20 |
| Maxdamantus | Yeah, that's probably the main thing. | 07:20 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe it'll still happen some time, since at least two people at Google know about it. | 07:21 |
| jonwil | I am going to continue using my microb patch for now | 07:25 |
| Maxdamantus | I use Opera, so it doesn't really affect me anyway. | 07:26 |
| jonwil | lots of people use microb :) | 07:26 |
| jonwil | and I have suggested (in the tmo thread) that we consider adding such a patch to microb-engine (IMO its better to have a small hack in microb-engine than to get strange "random" errors from Google) | 07:26 |
| Maxdamantus | An alternative MicroB-centric fix would be to just change the user agent. | 07:27 |
| Maxdamantus | that's why it doesn't affect Opera, not because of invalid XML workarounds. | 07:27 |
| jonwil | but what user agent to use? And how to be sure it isn't going to result in Google (or anyone else) sending the N900 pages it cant handle (or pages that use more mobile data than the current ones) | 07:29 |
| jonwil | Its not like there is some web page out there serving XHTML with an unescaped & symbol where parsing the page and ignoring the & instead of throwing an error is going to break things | 07:32 |
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| Sicelo | so swap fragmentation can cause slowness? | 10:20 |
| Sicelo | finally hit 10 days uptime on my N900 (first in a loooong time), but it was becoming too slow. swapping on/off between sd card & mmcblk0p3 seems to have restored sanity. or just placebo effect? | 10:22 |
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| Sicelo | on another note .. for some weird reason, auto-complete text suddenly does not work with hwkbd, but works with vkbd. what could be the cause? | 10:37 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: it's not a placebo effect :) | 10:43 |
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| Maxdamantus | It's probably not a placebo effect. | 11:09 |
| Maxdamantus | When you swapoff, it'll put more pages back into RAM. | 11:09 |
| Maxdamantus | You can't really tell it to move all swap from one device to another. | 11:10 |
| Maxdamantus | All you can do is tell it to move everything off a particular swap device, using swapoff .. some of those pages might end up staying in RAM, some might end up going to another swap device. | 11:11 |
| Maxdamantus | It's probably not really a matter of fragmentation though. | 11:12 |
| * Maxdamantus only uses SD cards for swap. | 11:13 | |
| * Maxdamantus is still wary of flash storage. | 11:14 | |
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| jonwil | I use whatever the default swap settings are :) | 11:31 |
| kerio | yeah because SD cards store data on unicorn farts | 12:20 |
| kerio | :v | 12:20 |
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| Maxdamantus | No. Because SD cards can be replaced. | 12:30 |
| Wizzup | you can also boot from sd cards if emmc breaks | 12:34 |
| Maxdamantus | Indeed, though I don't intend to break it. | 12:36 |
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| Vajb | how to chain dbus commands in shortcutd? | 12:38 |
| Vajb | trying with && | 12:41 |
| Vajb | hah works | 12:43 |
| Vajb | now when i use camerabutton to pause panucci it also rewinds it 10 seconds | 12:43 |
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| Sicelo | hi. my hwkbd 'problem' is getting more serious. Noticed the symbo table doesn't come up with Fn key anymore | 13:22 |
| Sicelo | how do i restart/reload hildon-im-*? | 13:22 |
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| Vajb | maybe just kill it? | 13:38 |
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| Sicelo | good idea. ah, let me check the init | 13:45 |
| Sicelo | nothing there. i wonder how it gets started. | 13:48 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, nothing seems to be restoring normal functionality for my hwkbd | 15:03 |
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| Vajb | did u try to kill hildon input method? | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | moin | 15:03 |
| Vajb | hey DocScrutinizer05 | 15:04 |
| Sicelo | yes Vajb | 15:05 |
| Sicelo | in vkbd all works normally. only hwkbd acting up: no auto-complete, and Fn key doesn't bring up symbol table. | 15:07 |
| Vajb | hmm maybe u changed some settings accidentally? | 15:12 |
| Sicelo | no. to make sure, i've changed between all the options in control panel. no difference | 15:13 |
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| Sicelo | guess N900 just asking for a reboot, lol | 15:13 |
| Vajb | haha | 15:13 |
| Vajb | maybe kill whole hildon desktop? | 15:14 |
| Sicelo | i did :) | 15:14 |
| Vajb | oh and still no joy... | 15:14 |
| Sicelo | yeah | 15:15 |
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| Vajb | can u make special characters if u longpress keyb? | 15:16 |
| Vajb | ah but there is different keys there... | 15:17 |
| Sicelo | long press works fine. even Fn + character | 15:17 |
| Sicelo | only Fn+Ctrol does not bring up symbol table | 15:18 |
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| Vajb | btw does ur vkbd work otherwise? | 15:31 |
| Vajb | i see lots of posts reporting that vkbd not working after installing SCIM | 15:34 |
| Sicelo | vkbd is working just fine. | 15:37 |
| Vajb | well im not an expert, but i'll say u have a weird problem :) | 15:40 |
| Sicelo | and i don't want to reboot just for this, haha | 15:41 |
| Vajb | did u do something odd? | 15:41 |
| Sicelo | possibly. i don't know. it's been a couple of days | 15:42 |
| Sicelo | not a very big problem for me .. i don't really use the symbols | 15:43 |
| Vajb | have u read related wiki article? | 15:44 |
| Vajb | special_characters_view | 15:44 |
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