| DocScrutinizer05 | thumb doesn't work with uBoot stock kernel | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | thumb is introducing quite a number of rough edges into the complete handling of system | 00:01 |
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| Sicelo009N | unless i'm making mistake... but yesterday i did boot a non-kp 2.6.28 .. bme-replacement didn't work for example. yes, i'm on thumb myself | 00:03 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: is it really a rough edge | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: couldn't thumb install a binary that checks for thumb-enabled kernel very early in boot, and pop up a fatal warning when it's missing? | 00:03 |
| kerio | if it's been working completely fine for multiple years for multiple people | 00:03 |
| Sicelo009N | or that 2.6.28 has the thumb errata patches? | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: please reread what I wrote | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | handling can't "work" since it's an action user does | 00:05 |
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| kerio | it's about as rough as having an ext4 /home | 00:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 00:06 |
| kerio | benefits are obvious, problems are minimal to none, the only thing is that you can't boot the nokia omap1 kernel | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exactly same level | 00:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | installing uboot on a thumb system is quite non-trivial since uboot won't boot the system unless you added all the uboot prerequisites like thumb kernel in right location and uboot config to use that thumb kernel, *prior* to installing uBoot | 00:10 |
| Sicelo009N | but uboot doesn force a restart ... you can still fix your .item files after | 00:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or you use flasher to RAM-load the thumb kernel so you could run all the uBoot config after installing uBoot. There's only one single chance where you could try to config uBoot to work with thumb, without using such things like rescueOS or flasher-booting thumb kernel in RAM: after installing uBoot while you're still running the thumb kernel based system that booted without uBoot | 00:14 |
| kerio | i don't even have a kernel bundled with uboot | 00:16 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 can't help but starting to muse about initfs unused NAND partition every time the uBoot topic comes up | 00:32 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | would be really interesting if NOLO checks initfs partition for code to execute, or maybe we even could patch NOLO to chainload uBoot from initfs instead of kernel space after NOLO | 00:35 |
| kerio | what's the point? | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the point is it's freeing up some space so maybe the powerkernel could go after NOLO | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thus there would be a kernel that's not subject to damage during reflashing rootfs | 00:38 |
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| Pali | KotCzarny: on repository.maemo.org is i386 and armel version of fiasco-gen | 02:11 |
| Pali | also 0xFFFF is replacement for fiasco-gen, it can generate needed fiaco images | 02:12 |
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| KotCzarny | http://i.imgur.com/lunecj3.jpg lol | 05:15 |
| totalizator | KotCzarny: https://github.com/reinderien/mimic | 05:27 |
| KotCzarny | mm? | 05:27 |
| KotCzarny | ahm | 05:28 |
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| KotCzarny | totalizator, good one | 05:42 |
| totalizator | evil | 05:42 |
| KotCzarny | evil doesnt even begin to describe it | 05:42 |
| KotCzarny | luckily i use mcedit in latin2 mode | 05:42 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 05:42 |
| totalizator | hah | 05:42 |
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| KotCzarny | https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html | 06:02 |
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| totalizator | bookmarked, thanks | 06:07 |
| KotCzarny | see also https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/ | 06:08 |
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| Sicelo | anyone knows a way to have non-microb browsers to use Maemo's certificate store? | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | depends on the browser i guess | 10:03 |
| Sicelo | fennec for example, or opera | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | --certificate-path= | 10:04 |
| KotCzarny | for fennec | 10:04 |
| Sicelo | for OWA i need to use a password-protected certificate. currently i can only use microb. let me try that | 10:04 |
| Sicelo | and what path shall i give? :) | 10:04 |
| KotCzarny | thought you know that part ;) | 10:05 |
| Sicelo | i only know to talk with mamo certifcates using cmcli | 10:06 |
| KotCzarny | c_rehash /etc/certs/common-ca/ | 10:06 |
| KotCzarny | that could be the path | 10:06 |
| Sicelo | /etc/certs/common-ca/ | 10:06 |
| Sicelo | yes, that | 10:06 |
| Sicelo | *thanks | 10:06 |
| Sicelo | i need the c_rehash part? | 10:07 |
| KotCzarny | c_rehash is a command to refresh the store i think, but backup first | 10:08 |
| KotCzarny | certman probably does it for you anyway | 10:08 |
| Sicelo | yes, i believe certman does | 10:09 |
| KotCzarny | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10423 | 10:09 |
| povbot | Bug 10423: HTTPS URL's Don't Work - certman's C_FindObjects mishandles null return from get_cert | 10:09 |
| KotCzarny | has some cmd magic too | 10:09 |
| Sicelo | anyway, fennec for some reason decides to open the path and display its contents :p | 10:09 |
| KotCzarny | did you put = or space? | 10:10 |
| KotCzarny | also, try --help | 10:10 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:10 |
| Sicelo | i used = | 10:12 |
| KotCzarny | maybe its some script instead of binary | 10:12 |
| Sicelo | and the options don't have certificate-path | 10:12 |
| Sicelo | could be that fennec was stripped down bit too much. | 10:13 |
| Sicelo | let me check if i could find something useful in about:config | 10:13 |
| Sicelo | no dice | 10:14 |
| Sicelo | guess for the time being i should be content with microb, which does a good job actually. but maybe fennec would have performed even better | 10:18 |
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| bencoh | Sicelo: fennec is mozilla-based, and it probably uses its own store | 10:58 |
| bencoh | (just like firefox) | 10:58 |
| Sicelo | yes, i figured that. | 11:05 |
| Sicelo | don't know how to manage it though ... i saw reference to some "certutil" tool | 11:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mmphh http://paste.opensuse.org/76599236 | 11:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually the full 'session': http://paste.opensuse.org/83068016 | 11:16 |
| ceene | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file or directory | 11:17 |
| ceene | ls -al /var/lib/dpkg/info/smbfs* | 11:17 |
| ceene | ? | 11:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even more 'full': http://paste.opensuse.org/4728920 | 11:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ls: http://paste.opensuse.org/5871650 | 11:18 |
| ceene | problem is probably that /var/lib/dpkg/info/smbfs.postinst first line is #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh | 11:19 |
| ceene | head /var/lib/dpkg/info/smbfs.postinst ? | 11:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | #! /bin/sh | 11:20 |
| ceene | remove the space | 11:20 |
| ceene | and run dpkg --configure -a | 11:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 11:20 |
| ceene | and then you should go and send a patch to whomever :) | 11:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WAAAAH!!!! | 11:22 |
| ceene | i don't know if that's good or bad | 11:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/18/plasma-desktopWg3616.png | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# dpkg --configure -a | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Setting up samba-common (3.4.3-maemo2) ... | 11:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file or directory | 11:24 |
| ceene | aaaaaaaargh | 11:24 |
| ceene | fromdos /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postinst | 11:25 |
| ceene | if there's fromdos | 11:25 |
| ceene | or it can be done with sed | 11:25 |
| ceene | or something | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 11:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no fromdos | 11:25 |
| ceene | http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt | 11:25 |
| ceene | how come these make it to the repos | 11:26 |
| ceene | the people that did those scripts didn't try to install them? | 11:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/88944841 :-S | 11:30 |
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| ceene | have you made the conversion from CR/LF to LF? | 11:30 |
| ceene | sed 's/.$//' # assumes that all lines end with CR/LF | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see sed oneliner. Yes, seems to have worked | 11:31 |
| ceene | sed -i ? | 11:31 |
| ceene | so why does it fail now? | 11:31 |
| ceene | mmmm | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nfc | 11:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | same shit in *.config or whatever? | 11:32 |
| ceene | ups | 11:33 |
| ceene | i think that sed like screwed up something | 11:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly wtf!? http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/18/plasma-desktopxj3616.png | 11:34 |
| ceene | 11:34 | |
| ceene | :s | 11:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/18536470 sucks | 11:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err *cough* http://paste.opensuse.org/37335137 | 11:40 |
| ceene | what the hell is all of that? | 11:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait | 11:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~> iron900 cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postinst|pastebinit | 11:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://susepaste.org/19124827 | 11:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and don't ask me what's ucf, never heard of it | 11:46 |
| ceene | Description-en: Update Configuration File(s): preserve user changes to config files | 11:48 |
| ceene | it's the thingy that asks you on debian if you want to keep your configuration or use the new one from the package | 11:48 |
| ceene | you probably can replace ucf lines with cp -f "$NEWFILE" "$CONFIG" | 11:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think for now I'm fed up with cifs ;-) | 11:49 |
| ceene | i don't understand how can this be on the repos | 11:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actaully I planned to share my music dir on PC to other clients in LAN | 11:50 |
| ceene | the guy who did it screwed ip up big time | 11:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 11:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38536 | 11:52 |
| ceene | the samba packages are fixable, though | 11:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I give up. >> # mount -t cifs -o username=jr //192.168.4.21/Musik /mnt/ ##>> Mounting the DFS root for domain not implemented yet \n No ip address specified and hostname not found | 12:05 |
| ceene | i assume your server is a windows pc | 12:08 |
| ceene | because otherwise i've had good luck mounting NFS | 12:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wow! worked, finally. After actually exporting something on my PC via samba | 12:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mount -tcifs -o user=jjjrrr,pass='fgdgfgf',ip=192.168.4.21 //192.168.4.21/Musik /mnt | 12:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually for "allow guests" share, the password isn't needed :-) | 12:42 |
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| ceene | great! :) | 12:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but for flac it doesn't really work. Dropouts | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno if WLAN or CPU is the culprit | 13:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | what's the average assumed bandwidth of flac? | 13:12 |
| bencoh | "a lot" | 13:13 |
| bencoh | ask ffmpeg/ffprobe :) | 13:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | seems a 16.5MB for 2:40 | 13:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so I don't think it's WLAN bottleneck | 13:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess I will google for a nice flac->mp3 transcode shellscript | 13:19 |
| bencoh | why dont you copy a sample to eMMC? | 13:21 |
| ceene | flac should be less cpu intensive i guess | 13:41 |
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| KotCzarny | i think oscp was happily playing flacs on n900 | 14:03 |
| KotCzarny | also, one can install sshd via cygwin on windoze | 14:03 |
| KotCzarny | another way would be simply running some dlna server on windoze | 14:04 |
| bencoh | ""simply"" krkrkr | 14:04 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 14:04 |
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| KotCzarny | http://www.topnettricks.com/dlna-media-servers-for-windows-8/ | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | quite a number available | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | The quickest way to set up a Windows 8 DLNA Media Server is to use the one that comes with Windows 8. | 14:06 |
| KotCzarny | even one is built in | 14:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: the final goal is to cram 140GB of flac musik onto N900, so I'll convert it to mp3 anyway | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops, 171GB, mostly flac | 14:43 |
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| KotCzarny | mp3 is suck | 15:16 |
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| L29Ah | no | 15:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | why | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ceene: N900 plays local flac just fine | 15:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I already wonder if maybe my workstation or the router or AP have some hiccup. after all Amarok eats quite some CPU and disk IO BW for rebuilding database, for example | 15:40 |
| ceene | that could be | 15:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then I actually opened up some 137.138 ports to the neighbour network for my friend to also access the musik dir, and I don't know how much his stuff would interfere | 15:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway access is pretty inconvenient after all, via "file" plugin in mediaplayer | 15:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this would probably be the first usecase where I could see some small benefit from this tracker abomination | 15:46 |
| bencoh | or you can use cmus or any other non-mediaplayer-based player :) | 15:58 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 16:00 |
| APic | B-) | 16:01 |
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| Vajb | i used amarok till my music collection grew over 20k. Then amarok became unusable slow | 16:14 |
| Vajb | rhythmbox works better with huge collection IMO | 16:14 |
| KotCzarny | vajb, oscp handless hundreds of thousands playlists just fine ;) | 16:16 |
| KotCzarny | (couldn't resist) | 16:17 |
| Vajb | i bet it does =) | 16:21 |
| Vajb | but, it wasn't available when i was looking for replacment of amarok | 16:22 |
| Vajb | like ten years back | 16:22 |
| Vajb | oscp=overly spammed cute player (couldn't resist either) | 16:23 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 16:24 |
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| Sicelo | haha Vajb. interesting :D | 17:03 |
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| joga | years ago when I still cared to have a music library, I used quodlibet | 17:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Amarok is braindead, it sorts .mp3 and .flac of similar filenames into same album, even when they are located in two completely different filesystem dirs. Sounds almost as brainfscked as tracker | 17:18 |
| bencoh | :] | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/18/plasma-desktopaJ3616.png | 17:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and just like tracker, you can't search (or select) for pathname of file, so there's no way to edit file properies like Artist, Title, Albumname etc based on the property "is inside directory "file:///home/jr/Musik/Massive_Attack/[1998] Mezzanine" | 17:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | note how even actually different filenames ('01. Angel.mp3' versus '01-Angel.flac') can convince Amarok to not merge both files into one virtual Album | 17:31 |
| ceene | collection based players are broken | 17:34 |
| ceene | by design | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OTOH "file:///home/jr/Musik/Massive_Attack/Massive Attack Discography @ 320 (9 Albums + 5 Singles)(TripHop)(by dragan09)/Other albums/2006 - Massive Attack - Collected (Japanese Import)/CD 1/*" shows up under "unknown Artist" "Album: CD1" | 17:34 |
| ceene | there are so many variables that the player needs to take into account | 17:35 |
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| ceene | that when one is missing results in a nonsense collection | 17:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | heuristics made by fools | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wouldn't complain if I could click on the dir in amarok's "files" dirtree-view and edit the properties of the files in there. But Nooooo, you only can edit properties in collection | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/18/plasma-desktopZF3616.png :-(( | 17:40 |
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| ceene | you can always request the feature | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no damn clue what Amarok does, but I guess even when I'd rename the dirs completely, heck even when I'd rename the files completely, it probably still would look up a hash or whatever of the file in an online database and decide they both are named "01 angel" and belong into a virtual Album "Mezzanine" | 17:43 |
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| KotCzarny | ceene, if one has his music library sorted by genre/artist/album/ (which is a case usually), library based players lose | 17:47 |
| KotCzarny | if one has files from the same album scattered over the place, imagine, very messy person trying to find anything | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL segfault | 18:00 |
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| Sicelo | i don't sort my music. all in one big directory, unless it already came as a directory. in short, i don't have complete albums (which is generally the reason one has directories). or in other words, yes, basically all my music is pirated/shared from someone else =) | 18:38 |
| Sicelo | tbh, i have at one time tried to sort in that scheme proposed by KotCzarny .. got tedious very fast | 18:39 |
| Sicelo | i therefore say both types of players (directory-based vs. database) have their strengths and weaknesses. | 18:43 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, you can start with genre, it usually makes listening more enjoyable and tuned to current mood | 18:43 |
| Sicelo | at least they all do their main job ... play music | 18:43 |
| KotCzarny | generic for me is techno/not-techno | 18:44 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 18:44 |
| KotCzarny | then subgenres | 18:44 |
| Sicelo | KotCzarny: will redo ... but i've found most of the music i get already has ID3 tags ... so, you can imagine | 18:45 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, sure, i have ~300GB of music, most is categorized (but not all is tagged) | 18:47 |
| Sicelo | 01 Trck 01.mp3, 1081163455.mp3 .. just found those in my music (N900) .. i don't even know what they are :) | 18:47 |
| Sicelo | but tracker knows :p | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | you can run tag-batch-renamer | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | problem solved :P | 18:47 |
| KotCzarny | and i have directories named 'unsorted' | 18:47 |
| Sicelo | except in my case there's no problem in first place. ;) | 18:48 |
| KotCzarny | or 'mule-new' | 18:48 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 18:48 |
| Sicelo | i already have genre, artist, album.. all there in that meaningless file name | 18:48 |
| Sicelo | but yeah, i'm not saying there's problem with directory player :) | 18:48 |
| Sicelo | i'll try sort my music one of these days | 18:49 |
| KotCzarny | you dont have to do it all at once | 18:49 |
| Sicelo | tag batch renamer is python? or something else? available for N900? | 18:49 |
| KotCzarny | just made up some name | 18:49 |
| KotCzarny | but there are tools that do such thing | 18:49 |
| Sicelo | i play my music only on N900 currently.. | 18:49 |
| Sicelo | ah, hehe | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | i can give you my c program | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | crude and written in my early years, but does the jub | 18:50 |
| Sicelo | as long as it can run on N900, sure. | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | its a simple console tool | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | so would run everywhere where is c compiler | 18:50 |
| Sicelo | okay | 18:51 |
| Sicelo | which reminds me to fix one of the songs i have here .. bad tag | 18:52 |
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| Sicelo | a positive side effect of tagging is lyric download for those players implementing this (e.g. OMP) | 18:56 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, my tool was working other way round | 18:57 |
| KotCzarny | it tried to parse path/filename to batch tag | 18:58 |
| KotCzarny | but there are console tag renamers | 18:58 |
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| Sicelo | slightly OT .. but sometimes i have problem deciding exact genre of a song. i mostly lisen to reggae & rock, and the variations here are a little too muc. or i'm complicating matters? | 19:00 |
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| KotCzarny | what is the question? | 19:01 |
| KotCzarny | you want to map some genres to simpler genres? | 19:01 |
| pigeons | yes you are thinking too much, there is no good answer | 19:01 |
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| Sicelo | i think pigeons got it | 19:02 |
| Sicelo | reggae --> dancehall, dub, roots .. i have no really good idea what's what :) | 19:03 |
| Sicelo | rcok is even worse | 19:03 |
| Sicelo | but yeah, i'll just stick to main, | 19:03 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, my approach 'reggae/rock/other' | 19:03 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 19:03 |
| KotCzarny | ie. create 3 main folders | 19:04 |
| KotCzarny | then you can differentiate more | 19:04 |
| Sicelo | how do you deal with songs that appeared in different albums? :) | 19:05 |
| Sicelo | use 'first'? | 19:05 |
| KotCzarny | i usually delete copies that are outside albums | 19:05 |
| KotCzarny | unless its a remix or cover | 19:06 |
| KotCzarny | so, if you have an album and its logical structure matters, use it, if not, just copy to artist subdir | 19:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm only listening to full albums. And often the gaps/breaks between songs suck big time | 19:35 |
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| Sicelo | we don't have a gapless player on N900, do we? | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope, we don't. But sometimes even 'gapless' doesn't help, when already the artists fucked up the remix, and then the flakes rushed over and wrecked it some more: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/18/plasma-desktopTS3616.png | 19:40 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: problem with alternative players on n900 is that display events can introduce skips | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | as for gapless its still in my todo | 19:42 |
| Sicelo | KotCzarny: even when using mafw? | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | i dont use mafw, but when i tried gstreamer it behaved the same | 19:44 |
| * Sicelo checks out DocScrutinizer05's music .. never heard of that | 19:44 | |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: alt rock | 19:44 |
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| KotCzarny | though its more experimental | 19:45 |
| KotCzarny | brain eno and robert fripp | 19:45 |
| KotCzarny | *brian | 19:45 |
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| Sicelo | https://medium.com/@ryanolsonk/is-apple-using-swift-4a6c80f74599#.3ucuasd2z <--- interesting. we're happy to receive 'junk' because it's free :D | 19:47 |
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| Sicelo | got a bit of that music on youtube now. are there any good streaming music sites around? or everything is geared toward video? | 19:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://kat.cr/brian-eno-discography-1968-2011-99-albums-solo-with-and-participations-mp3-320k-mostly-tags-covers-rar-t6863641.html | 19:48 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, there was last.fm, but it was bought out and went down the drain | 19:49 |
| KotCzarny | there might be more sites like this, otoh you can always listen to internet radio | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: Bowie, Eno, Fripp... and the awesome projects they participated | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you know, Bowie's 'Heroes' would be nothing without Fripp | 19:51 |
| Sicelo | hmm, it's a nice song. didn't know it :) | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | add a tad (a huuge tad) of Zappa on top | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plus the standards (though usually I prefer the early stuff) from bands like Genesis, Pink floyd, Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk... Lots of Newwave | 19:56 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: if you like artistic rock check out 'king crimson' | 19:56 |
| KotCzarny | they do concept albums | 19:56 |
| KotCzarny | pretty awesome at that too | 19:56 |
| Sicelo | checking it out right away | 19:57 |
| KotCzarny | but their style was changing over the years | 19:57 |
| KotCzarny | larks tongues in aspic is pretty smooth | 19:57 |
| KotCzarny | and i bet you know '20th century schizoid man' from another album | 19:57 |
| Sicelo | no. didn't :D | 19:58 |
| Sicelo | am listening to that one currently | 19:58 |
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| Sicelo | i'm more 'classical' .. listen to Dylan, Procol Harum, Queen, etc. | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | so closer to pop songs then 'classical' in the sense of musical-painting ? | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all on my list as well :-) | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, Dylan maybe not that much | 19:59 |
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| Sicelo | that's the problem KotCzarny. is it pop? i personally wouldn't consider Procol any closer to Celine Dion for example .. but this is exactly the issue i was talking about earlier .. i wonder if there could be a definitive classification of songs | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://kat.cr/usearch/frank zappa absolutely free/ | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | i didnt say its pop, but more in that direction | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | ie. accessible by regular joe | 20:01 |
| Sicelo | Tongues in Aspic is cool. liking it :) | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, grab all of king crimson then | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | and listen WHOLE albums | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oh yeah | 20:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Lark's tongues even | 20:02 |
| * Sicelo going to become worse pirate than he already is here, haha | 20:02 | |
| KotCzarny | :) | 20:02 |
| KotCzarny | i have quite a lot of king crimson cds | 20:02 |
| KotCzarny | also, grab lossless | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find "Red" ! | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | it really makes a difference | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | more depth | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | and space is cheap nowadays | 20:03 |
| Sicelo | you need the equipment too, however | 20:03 |
| Sicelo | i.e. speakers | 20:04 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but even on middle-lower tier audio you can hear the difference | 20:04 |
| KotCzarny | (not counting crapspeakers for pc) | 20:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first 8 records of King Crimson are all excellent | 20:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when adrian Belew(?) joined, it got a tad too err mainstream? | 20:05 |
| KotCzarny | offtopic, hdmi->vga converter eats ~40mA | 20:07 |
| Sicelo | one thing i hate with N900+tracker is that there's no mechanism to request/initiate reindexing. tracker-processes -r then opening mediaplayer is not efficient imo (yes, tracker as a whole is inefficient, i know) | 20:08 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny: i think I read yesterday "hdmi->vga converter eats ~40mA" when talking about raspberry pi :) | 20:08 |
| KotCzarny | sunshavi: banana pi here | 20:08 |
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| KotCzarny | i was afraid it would be drawing ~250mA as the seller description stated, but 40 is ok | 20:09 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny: great, to know it | 20:09 |
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| sunshavi | on n800 y play my mp3 collection using gstreamer on emacs/emms | 20:09 |
| KotCzarny | but i measure with crappy 'charge doctor' | 20:09 |
| Sicelo | on subject of power consumption .. does someone know how much extra draw tv-out adds (N900)? | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, run bq script then enable tv? | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | s/run/run in loop/ | 20:10 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: sicelo, run in loop bq script then enable tv? | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | s/run/run in loop mode/ | 20:10 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: sicelo, run in loop mode bq script then enable tv? | 20:10 |
| Sicelo | don't have tv :D | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | got anything with composite input? | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | vcr? | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | set top box? | 20:11 |
| KotCzarny | grabber card in pc? | 20:11 |
| Sicelo | nop. will test at work with my monitor | 20:12 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny, where is the bq script?, I always have wanted to know the bluetooth power consumption on my NX00's | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | ~bq | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | ~bq27200 | 20:14 |
| infobot | hmm... bq27k-detail is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2, or ~bq27 | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | ~bq27 | 20:14 |
| infobot | somebody said bq27 was http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ bq27*, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | but its for n900 | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | also, it might be that converter eats ~40mA, but connecting hdmi eats ~300mA | 20:15 |
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| KotCzarny | oh, wow, disconnecting hdmi cable oopses kernel :> | 20:17 |
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| Sicelo | sunshavi: wondering if that will work on N800 .. does it have the chip? | 20:23 |
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| sunshavi | Sicelo: no idea, let me test it | 20:35 |
| sunshavi | and see what it happens | 20:36 |
| sunshavi | s/it/ | 20:36 |
| KotCzarny | lsmod|grep bq | 20:36 |
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| KotCzarny | if you dont have it, dont bother further | 20:36 |
| KotCzarny | but i think bq27200 was n900's only | 20:37 |
| sunshavi | KotCzarny: according to lsmod You r right, that's the answer Sicelo | 20:38 |
| sunshavi | That n900 is a unique piece of engineering: I want another one, somebody is coming to latin-america ;) | 20:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: TV won't add significant power drain. For KC songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvz8jtZ3f5s | 20:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: you must not listen to this song from shitty speakers. Use headphones! | 21:03 |
| Sicelo | even headphones haha .. you need good ones | 21:04 |
| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: like these here, http://www.gsmarena.com/sennheiser_announces_new__50000_orpheus_headphones-blog-14846.php | 21:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: hehe, well the *old* AKG K340 cans would do | 21:32 |
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| sunshavi | Is anyone using scratchbox2? | 22:02 |
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| digitalbum | hello! | 23:55 |
| digitalbum | I have a quick question | 23:55 |
| digitalbum | It's not urgent, but I would like to recompile FCamera with some slight changes | 23:56 |
| digitalbum | It's a QT app. qmake is needed so I guess a scratchbox is required | 23:57 |
| digitalbum | The question is, is there another way? Has anyone compliled a QT app on device? | 23:58 |
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