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| jonwil | hi | 09:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi | 09:53 |
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| fishbulb | hey I'm still using an n900 as my only phone | 10:12 |
| fishbulb | are there any blogs or anything like that about apps that still work, or "best apps" so to speak | 10:13 |
| KotCzarny | yes, talk.maemo.org | 10:13 |
| fishbulb | and it's been a few years, a reflash would be good | 10:13 |
| KotCzarny | ~flashing | 10:13 |
| infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh | 10:13 |
| fishbulb | whta about a quick top ten | 10:13 |
| fishbulb | of STILL working ones | 10:13 |
| fishbulb | top 20 | 10:13 |
| KotCzarny | see above | 10:14 |
| fishbulb | I don't want to lose contacts, text and call history, and calendar info | 10:15 |
| KotCzarny | then flash only, without emmc | 10:15 |
| fishbulb | will all the junk be there though | 10:16 |
| KotCzarny | or install backupmenu first, do backup etc to be extra safe | 10:16 |
| KotCzarny | ~bm | 10:16 |
| infobot | from memory, backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 10:16 |
| fishbulb | like the old root passwords and any random shit I installed from apt-get | 10:16 |
| fishbulb | if I could have a freshly flashed phone and put the contacts/texts/calendar back on | 10:17 |
| fishbulb | actually... is there a tool I can run that'll clean things up? I must have altered iptables and shit when I didn't relaly know whta I was doing with that, with apps and all kinds of crap | 10:17 |
| fishbulb | I'd like to reinstall linux, and then put my contacts back on | 10:19 |
| KotCzarny | see above | 10:20 |
| fishbulb | I'm reading it | 10:20 |
| fishbulb | does that flash script put power kernel and other stuff which is basically vital now? | 10:21 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 10:24 |
| KotCzarny | it flashes your device to a femantle 1.3.1 | 10:25 |
| KotCzarny | no special stuff | 10:25 |
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| capitanocrunch | hello | 10:28 |
| fishbulb | is that what I'm running now | 10:29 |
| fishbulb | from memory I have the power kernel and it's running cssu | 10:29 |
| KotCzarny | ~cssu | 10:29 |
| infobot | rumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 10:29 |
| capitanocrunch | Navit team is trying to build a navit deb for maemo | 10:31 |
| capitanocrunch | but need help with some errors building on scratchbox | 10:32 |
| capitanocrunch | can you take a look at https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/62#issuecomment-170118637 | 10:33 |
| fishbulb | is there a weather app that actually works | 10:34 |
| fishbulb | I'm in australia | 10:34 |
| Humpelstilzchen | fishbulb: last time i hcecked omweather did work | 10:34 |
| fishbulb | I checked and it didn't | 10:35 |
| fishbulb | for this part of the world | 10:35 |
| fishbulb | it showed weather from the previous day | 10:35 |
| fishbulb | ignoring the local time and date | 10:35 |
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| jonwil | The included weather app (forcea) works just fine in Australia FYI | 10:54 |
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| capitanocrunch | is this a simple repository issue in scratchbox? | 11:38 |
| capitanocrunch | https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/62#issuecomment-170118637 | 11:38 |
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| ceene | i think it is | 12:49 |
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| fishbulb_ | hey | 13:36 |
| fishbulb_ | what's the thing called to edit the autocomplete dictionary | 13:37 |
| fishbulb_ | I forgot what it's claled and can't find it in the repos anymore | 13:37 |
| ceene | autocomp edit | 13:44 |
| Sicelo | nice. never knew this one :) | 14:07 |
| Sicelo | gave up on the autocomplete when i found it 'suggests' even your entered passwords :( | 14:08 |
| fishbulb_ | can you change autocomplete to a different one? | 14:27 |
| fishbulb_ | like the "engine" or whatever? | 14:27 |
| fishbulb_ | this is still technically a smartphone, but it's the dumbest of them. I basically like that there is some internet access, no fucking apps or facebook notifications or any of that shit | 14:29 |
| fishbulb_ | like texts/calls, linux, access TO internet, but no modern apps at all. | 14:30 |
| capitanocrunch | bash-3.00$ sb-conf select FREMANTLE_ARMEL | 14:30 |
| capitanocrunch | bash-3.00$ dpkg -i ../deps/libdevil-dev_1.7.5-5maemo1_armel.deb | 14:30 |
| capitanocrunch | dpkg: error processing ../deps/libdevil-dev_1.7.5-5maemo1_armel.deb (--install): package architecture (armel) does not match system (i386) | 14:30 |
| capitanocrunch | Errors were encountered while processing: ../deps/libdevil-dev_1.7.5-5maemo1_armel.deb | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | um | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | switch target to armel | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | ahm | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | apparently your install is broken | 14:31 |
| fishbulb_ | there's no autocomp edit in the repos | 14:31 |
| KotCzarny | have you tried the vm inmage? | 14:31 |
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| fishbulb_ | where is the repo list? | 14:32 |
| fishbulb_ | of current repos? | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 14:33 |
| infobot | maemo-repos is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 14:33 |
| fishbulb_ | which ones do I use? | 14:34 |
| fishbulb_ | I'm using cssu | 14:34 |
| fishbulb_ | I think the repos on my device are outdated | 14:35 |
| Sicelo | indeed they are. i'm installing that editor right now | 14:36 |
| fishbulb_ | using which repos? | 14:36 |
| Sicelo | maemo-repos | 14:36 |
| Sicelo | but really any of the mirrors are good | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | muarf seems to be the most popular | 14:37 |
| fishbulb_ | so I click on that link and it'll install all the repos | 14:37 |
| Sicelo | no. you will see a list of documented mirrors | 14:38 |
| KotCzarny | im starting to think fishbulb should learn debian/linux basics | 14:38 |
| Sicelo | i think he knows :/ | 14:38 |
| fishbulb_ | yes | 14:39 |
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| fishbulb_ | yes, where does one learn these things | 14:40 |
| fishbulb_ | where's "the manual" | 14:40 |
| KotCzarny | you may start with debian general manual (applies partially to maemo): https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals | 14:42 |
| Sicelo | i've even forgotten how to use the autocomplete, especially with vkbd. how do i 'accpet' a suggested word? | 14:42 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, space maybe? | 14:42 |
| Sicelo | at least in vkbd that doesn't have desired effect | 14:43 |
| Sicelo | hwkbd you use right arrow | 14:43 |
| Sicelo | i remember now .. you swipe on the suggested word in vkbd | 14:44 |
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| KotCzarny | fishbulb: then google 'linux basics' and learn it for a day or two | 14:44 |
| Sicelo | tricky though, as you must swipe 'from' the highlighted point | 14:44 |
| kerio | fishbulb_: if this was openbsd we'd have the man pages that actually explain stuff | 14:45 |
| kerio | well written, updated, exhaustive | 14:45 |
| fishbulb_ | so I just google "linux" | 14:46 |
| fishbulb_ | I'm asking shit that's specific to this phone | 14:46 |
| fishbulb_ | repos: I need them | 14:46 |
| Sicelo009N | hehe | 14:46 |
| fishbulb_ | the phone needs software, where are the working repos please | 14:47 |
| KotCzarny | kerio: nokia decided to purge any documentation on maemo | 14:47 |
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| fishbulb_ | and nobody in the world has it? | 14:48 |
| kerio | KotCzarny: linux distros in general have disappointing man pages | 14:48 |
| fishbulb_ | how are there developers FOR maemo? | 14:48 |
| fishbulb_ | I don't believe that. | 14:48 |
| fishbulb_ | there is documentation somewhere | 14:48 |
| fishbulb_ | people involved in this neo-900 project are INCREDIBLY precious about it | 14:49 |
| fishbulb_ | probably because it involves money. | 14:49 |
| KotCzarny | basically its just a linux system, debianish | 14:49 |
| KotCzarny | anything that applies to linux or debian, also applies to maemo | 14:49 |
| kerio | fishbulb_: there's docs | 14:50 |
| kerio | they're just not installed on the n900 because of space concerns | 14:50 |
| kerio | nokia tried pretty hard to pretend it's a phone | 14:50 |
| fishbulb_ | it is | 14:52 |
| fishbulb_ | it makes calls | 14:52 |
| fishbulb_ | it does text messages | 14:52 |
| fishbulb_ | it's primary function is a phone. it runs linux | 14:52 |
| fishbulb_ | it defaults to a phone, I suppose technically what.. it's a tablet? it's a "device" that has 3g capabilities? | 14:52 |
| fishbulb_ | a miniature tablet | 14:53 |
| fishbulb_ | with a keyboard and can make calls, texts and the rest | 14:53 |
| kerio | it runs what's basically a vaguely finger-friendly linux desktop system | 14:54 |
| kerio | of circa 2008 | 14:54 |
| fishbulb_ | that too | 14:54 |
| kerio | and includes a well-supported phone module that can do calls and texts | 14:55 |
| fishbulb_ | 2008? I thought 2009 | 14:55 |
| KotCzarny | supported? | 14:55 |
| kerio | KotCzarny: well, it works | 14:55 |
| kerio | which means that there's drivers :> | 14:55 |
| fishbulb_ | yes it works, I use it every day | 14:55 |
| KotCzarny | only with legacy kernel | 14:55 |
| KotCzarny | i wouldnt call it supported | 14:56 |
| KotCzarny | only 'working' | 14:56 |
| kerio | well ok | 14:58 |
| Pali | freemangordon: with last mce on 4.4 kernel I'm getting this: | 15:01 |
| Pali | Jan 9 13:59:44 Nokia-N900 kernel: [ 4400.524963] keyboard: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 152 | 15:01 |
| Pali | Jan 9 13:59:44 Nokia-N900 mce[2484]: Cannot close `/sys/devices/platform/gpio_keys/disabled_keys'; Invalid argument | 15:01 |
| fishbulb_ | legacy kernel? | 15:06 |
| KotCzarny | the nokia's one | 15:07 |
| fishbulb_ | they made this thing | 15:07 |
| fishbulb_ | it's a phone. | 15:07 |
| fishbulb_ | it defaults to a phone. if you pull it out of the box it's a phone | 15:07 |
| fishbulb_ | you pull the sim out it defaults to an emergency call only phone | 15:07 |
| fishbulb_ | linux poeple CAN mess with it endlessly, but it's a "smartphone" from 2009 | 15:08 |
| kerio | fishbulb_: you can literally just grab a random linux desktop program | 15:08 |
| kerio | compile it | 15:08 |
| kerio | and it will work | 15:09 |
| fishbulb_ | compile it for arm | 15:09 |
| fishbulb_ | you can run busybox in android | 15:09 |
| fishbulb_ | now how do I get the repos on my phone please? | 15:09 |
| KotCzarny | but not graphical ones | 15:09 |
| kerio | which is why i said desktop program | 15:09 |
| kerio | ie one that uses gtk or qt | 15:10 |
| fishbulb_ | terminal software | 15:10 |
| kerio | with typically alsa or pulseaudio | 15:10 |
| kerio | for sound | 15:10 |
| fishbulb_ | how do I get repos on this thing? | 15:10 |
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| fishbulb_ | I clicked on the install thing for the mirrors | 15:17 |
| fishbulb_ | no dice | 15:17 |
| fishbulb_ | how long should that take? it looks like my device is frozen | 15:17 |
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| KotCzarny | what 'install thing' | 15:19 |
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| Sicelo | as long as it takes your network and device to process everything :) | 15:19 |
| fishbulb_ | autocomp edit isn't in there | 15:20 |
| fishbulb_ | something went wrong | 15:21 |
| fishbulb_ | I think I installed both mirrors | 15:21 |
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| fishbulb_ | turn off then on again didn't work | 15:26 |
| fishbulb_ | I'm out of ideas. | 15:26 |
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| capitanocrunch | hi again | 16:48 |
| capitanocrunch | navit team trying to build navit for maemo but needs help with scratchbox | 16:49 |
| capitanocrunch | there is a issue installing debs from repos | 16:50 |
| capitanocrunch | can somebody look at this? https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/62#issuecomment-170240617 | 16:51 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: "[PATCH] input: gpio_keys: Fix check for disabling unsupported key" is the fix for the second message. It needs board dts fix as well, I'll send a patch for it(most probably tomorrow). I saw the other message as well, but have no idea what it is. | 17:22 |
| Pali | freemangordon: ok | 17:23 |
| Pali | I have hal/ke-recv semi-working | 17:23 |
| Pali | will commit patches to github | 17:23 |
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| Pali | there is problem in musb, see lkml email (cced) | 17:23 |
| freemangordon | yep, just came home, still reading through the emails | 17:25 |
| freemangordon | Pali: does "echo peripheral ..." make missing cable.button to appear? | 17:28 |
| Pali | no | 17:29 |
| Pali | hal patch is needed | 17:29 |
| freemangordon | :( | 17:29 |
| freemangordon | hal patch? | 17:29 |
| * freemangordon looks on github | 17:29 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | moin nerds | 17:29 |
| Pali | echo peripheral is needed because musb does not export gadget to PC | 17:29 |
| Pali | I did not pushed patches to github yet | 17:29 |
| freemangordon | nerds? where do you see them? :) | 17:29 |
| freemangordon | ah, ok | 17:30 |
| Pali | still fixing ke-recv... | 17:30 |
| freemangordon | Pali: can;t we just grab newer hal? or it doesn;t make sense | 17:30 |
| Pali | no it does not make sense | 17:30 |
| Pali | as this is Nokia hal | 17:30 |
| freemangordon | Nokia hal? | 17:30 |
| Pali | there is no new version of Nokia hal | 17:30 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:31 |
| Pali | hal patches by Nokia | 17:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | could you add a usleep of at least 200ms after detecting USB VBUS before testing D+/- short? | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or will this break ENUM? | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway there's this annoying race condition when you plug in the USB charger slowly and GND/VBUS is already making contact while the shorter D+/- don't yet. So the device never (until mate-cycling) detects the fastcharger | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this even happens during UNplugging to me every once in a while now | 17:38 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, done, packages are now in cssu-devel and code on github | 17:52 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:52 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: problem looks like that musb enters into host mode by default | 17:53 |
| Pali | and kernel show b_idle mode, not peripheral | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, those are symptoms. the cause is the D+- contacts in plug are shorter than gnd and vbus | 17:55 |
| Pali | freemangordon: have you tested Dmitry's patch for gpio_keys? | 17:59 |
| freemangordon | Pali: no, planned it for tomorrow | 18:00 |
| Pali | ok | 18:00 |
| Pali | about musb, looks like kernel configured DevCtl musb register incorrectly after boot | 18:01 |
| Pali | and that "echo peripheral > mode" fixes it | 18:01 |
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| stryngs | Does anyone know, what the J looking piece of metal, on the inside of the back cover does? | 19:34 |
| stryngs | It popped off mine | 19:34 |
| KotCzarny | cover sensor | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | ie. sd sensor etc | 19:41 |
| KotCzarny | and i think camera sensor | 19:42 |
| stryngs | Hmm | 19:42 |
| stryngs | So important then | 19:42 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, inside is only lens cover tho | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | if your sd works, rhen just lens sensor | 19:43 |
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| Pali | hello, any idea where is hosted ipt_TRIGGER.ko netfilter module? | 21:21 |
| Pali | I found source code in on more untrusted "forums" on internet... | 21:21 |
| Pali | but no relevant project | 21:21 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, kernel source? | 21:27 |
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| bencoh | or patch-o-matic maybe... but that's deprecated (obsolete actually) | 21:36 |
| bencoh | (patchomatic is) | 21:36 |
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| Pali | bencoh: I looked into xtables-addons | 21:39 |
| Pali | but module is not there :-( | 21:39 |
| bencoh | google says svn.dd-wrt.com | 21:42 |
| Pali | ipt_TRIGGER can be used as "reverse" recent module... if you create connection to address X and after that you receive packets from X (but different port) you can match this connection with ipt_TRIGGER | 21:42 |
| Pali | in combination with masquerade, you can create dynamic port forwarding | 21:42 |
| Pali | based on source (local) address | 21:42 |
| bencoh | hmm I see | 21:43 |
| Pali | bencoh: I saw also sources on some dd-wrt linux subproject | 21:43 |
| Pali | but... I trust more project like this "http://xtables-addons.sourceforge.net/" as some source code on some forum... | 21:43 |
| bencoh | does it mark it as related in conntrack? | 21:44 |
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| Pali | bencoh: looks like not | 21:48 |
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| Pali | everything is marked executed with TRIGGER target | 21:49 |
| bencoh | it keeps an internal table :/ | 21:49 |
| bencoh | doesnt look "pretty" | 21:49 |
| bencoh | no wonder it has never been upstreamed | 21:50 |
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| bencoh | Pali: you might be able to do the same with CT | 21:53 |
| bencoh | (the netfilter target) | 21:53 |
| Pali | bencoh: how? | 21:53 |
| Pali | I was thinking about it | 21:53 |
| Pali | but no idea | 21:53 |
| Pali | CT is conntrack, right | 21:54 |
| stryngs | Pali: Do you have knowledge on the J piece of metal on the inside cover of the back plate ? | 21:55 |
| stryngs | Pali: It popped off, trying to figure out it's exact purpose | 21:55 |
| bencoh | or maybe you'd need a netfilter conntrack helper ... dunno | 21:55 |
| Defiant | stryngs: is it magnet? | 21:55 |
| Pali | stryngs: do not know | 21:56 |
| Defiant | magnetic | 21:56 |
| bencoh | a helper would probably be *much* cleaner than this TRIGGER module anyway | 21:56 |
| Pali | bencoh: yes, but helper needs to be kernel module | 21:56 |
| Pali | TRIGGER is generic | 21:56 |
| Pali | conntrack modules are specific for one option | 21:57 |
| bencoh | ? | 21:57 |
| bencoh | .ko ? ;p | 21:57 |
| stryngs | Defiant: Yes, it is ferrous | 21:57 |
| stryngs | It is a J shaped piece of metal | 21:57 |
| Defiant | stryngs: probably for a reed switch | 21:57 |
| Defiant | stryngs: any idea where it was? I don't see one on my backcover | 21:59 |
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| stryngs | Defiant: Every n900 has one | 22:01 |
| stryngs | If you pull the lid off | 22:01 |
| stryngs | have the blue piece on the left hand side | 22:01 |
| stryngs | From right to left | 22:01 |
| stryngs | it's the first piece of metal | 22:01 |
| stryngs | It's molded into it | 22:01 |
| Defiant | [82684.320587] mmc0: cover is closed, card is now accessible | 22:01 |
| Defiant | aah thats what it is for | 22:01 |
| Defiant | it detects if cover is present | 22:02 |
| stryngs | Ok | 22:03 |
| stryngs | Do I need to care? | 22:03 |
| Defiant | stryngs: do you need the mmc? | 22:04 |
| stryngs | SD card? | 22:04 |
| Defiant | yes | 22:04 |
| stryngs | I'd like to | 22:04 |
| Defiant | then you probably need to care, unless you mount it manually | 22:04 |
| Sicelo | won't mount manually. you'd need to hack the driver | 22:05 |
| stryngs | hmm | 22:06 |
| Sicelo | and i probably don't know what 'j' looks like because i see nothing that looks like 'j' on either of my N900 | 22:06 |
| stryngs | Pull the back plate off | 22:06 |
| stryngs | Maybe it looks like an L | 22:07 |
| stryngs | Has two indentations where it mounts to the plastic | 22:07 |
| stryngs | You can't miss it =) | 22:07 |
| Defiant | there really is somethong magnetic in the backcover, I just can't see it. | 22:07 |
| Defiant | I shouldn't have painted all black :( | 22:07 |
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| Sicelo | i'm too dumb. i don't see any metallic pieces on back cover, except the spring for the camera shutter | 22:09 |
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| Sicelo | stryngs ... pic please? | 22:11 |
| Sicelo | medium to low res though ... on metered connection | 22:11 |
| Humpelstilzchen | .o0(I should remember to dust the inside once in a while) | 22:12 |
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| stryngs | Sicelo: k | 22:14 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | aah found it | 22:16 |
| Humpelstilzchen | Sicelo: do you have the backcover in the hand? | 22:16 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | not what I would call an L.. | 22:17 |
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| stryngs | http://www.picpaste.com/20000101_001-3bfLl6mb.jpg | 22:18 |
| stryngs | The pen points to where it mounts | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | i have two covers | 22:18 |
| KotCzarny | defiant: magnetic part is on the outside | 22:18 |
| KotCzarny | stryngs: replacement backcover is cheap | 22:19 |
| stryngs | KotCzarny: I don't need a replacement, I want to know what its for =) | 22:19 |
| stryngs | KotCzarny: Superglue would fix it | 22:19 |
| stryngs | KotCzarny: I'm interested in it's point | 22:19 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, this part | 22:19 |
| Sicelo | that thing does nothing | 22:20 |
| Sicelo | it just helps the movement of the 'stand' | 22:20 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: Hmm | 22:20 |
| Sicelo | to make it sort of snap into place. | 22:20 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: So OS wise (Detection and stuff), pointless | 22:21 |
| KotCzarny | stryngs, if your card doesnt umount while backcover is in place then no | 22:21 |
| Sicelo | that is if you mean the one sitting on white patch? does nothing for OS | 22:21 |
| KotCzarny | offtopic, how come it got broken? did you drop the n900? | 22:22 |
| Sicelo | actually, on both my covers it is no longer there :) | 22:22 |
| stryngs | Word | 22:22 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: And on your SD card, no effect? | 22:22 |
| Humpelstilzchen | stryngs: that not the one for the SD | 22:23 |
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| stryngs | And that's what I care about | 22:24 |
| Humpelstilzchen | that part is not even magnetic on mine | 22:24 |
| stryngs | It is on mine | 22:24 |
| stryngs | very | 22:24 |
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| stryngs | It iself is not magnetic, but it is ferrous | 22:24 |
| stryngs | i.e. A magnet will attract it | 22:24 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | stryngs: don't you usually need a strong magnet for that? | 22:25 |
| Sicelo009N | crappy connection :( yes, that has zero realtion to sd card. yes, my sd card & camera work just fine with that thing missing. | 22:25 |
| stryngs | Humpelstilzchen: My refridgerator magnet picks it up | 22:25 |
| Sicelo009N | as i told you, it just causes the stand to 'snap' | 22:25 |
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| Sicelo009N | the sd card magnet is hidden close to the black 'patch' on camera door whern it is closed | 22:26 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: Word. Just wanted to make sure. Performing a new release for the hackpack today | 22:26 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: Can't have issues... | 22:26 |
| Sicelo009N | the white & black patch are for the camera on/off | 22:27 |
| Sicelo009N | everything else is for ... decor :) | 22:27 |
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| Sicelo009N | anyway, this exercise has made me realize that 'back cover out' event is not detected on my 2nd N900 :( | 22:32 |
| Sicelo009N | problem is with N900, as the cover works fine on my other N900. | 22:32 |
| KotCzarny | maybe its permanently out | 22:32 |
| Sicelo009N | what? | 22:33 |
| Sicelo009N | i think the sensor in N900 is fried .. this device had very nice treament as far as i can tell, but when USB came off, whoever owned it got a bad repair guy. | 22:34 |
| Sicelo009N | will reflash sometime soon to confirm if i don't just have bad software. earphone also doesn't work (but nokia headset works). phone unlocks UI on camera cover opening, etc. weird behavior. | 22:35 |
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| Sicelo009N | ah, no internet :( so can't download flasher. will have to wait for tomorrow | 22:54 |
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| tryagain | Hi! My build depends on a few packages from fremantle extra/freemantle extra devel repos. What's proper way to satisfy these build time dependencies? Directly adding these repos to /etc/apt/sources.list seems to break scratchbox dpkg dependency tree. | 23:24 |
| tryagain | I attempt to build navit, another discussion is here: https://github.com/navit-gps/navit/pull/62 | 23:25 |
| Sicelo009N | i wish someone would help ^^ (he's been asking for a long time) :) | 23:26 |
| Sicelo009N | and i believe there are lots of people out there interested in navit on N900 | 23:27 |
| bencoh | where does ../deps/libdevil comes from? | 23:27 |
| tryagain | from fremantle extra repo | 23:28 |
| tryagain | downloaded by hand | 23:28 |
| bencoh | you shouldn't need to download it by hang | 23:28 |
| tryagain | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/d/devil/libdevil-dev_1.7.5-5maemo1_armel.deb | 23:28 |
| tryagain | ah, it's actually from extras-devel | 23:29 |
| bencoh | yeah, devil is in extras-devel only | 23:29 |
| bencoh | anyway, are you sure you configured your FREMANTLE_ARMEL target properly? | 23:29 |
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| tryagain | i use a preconfigured vm image. Yesterday i was incorrectly logging into scratchbox with '/scratchbox/login bash' | 23:31 |
| bencoh | Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z <-- this one I guess? | 23:31 |
| tryagain | http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/maemo_dev_env_downloads/Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z | 23:32 |
| bencoh | if you think your sb env is messed up I'd start again with a fresh one | 23:32 |
| tryagain | actually, i've started today with a clean copy. | 23:33 |
| bencoh | ah. | 23:34 |
| bencoh | well... then try adding extras* repositories to your sources.list | 23:35 |
| tryagain | adding extras breaks dependency tree after apt-get update | 23:35 |
| bencoh | (and use apt pin-priority to install extras/extras-testing instead of -devel when available) | 23:35 |
| bencoh | add -testing and -devel as wel... but it shouldn't | 23:36 |
| bencoh | " package architecture (armel) does not match system (i386)" that's strange | 23:37 |
| tryagain | can you quote the proper strings to include to sources.list? | 23:37 |
| tryagain | package architecture is actually resolved after using proper login procedure... | 23:37 |
| bencoh | ah | 23:37 |
| bencoh | http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=d13d71bea this is what I use | 23:38 |
| tryagain | so currently i have lots of unmeet dependencies after i add needed repos | 23:38 |
| bencoh | drop the "community" lines as it shouldn't be in sb | 23:38 |
| bencoh | (I followed http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Manual_Installation to install sb, btw. I dont use the pre-packaged vm image) | 23:39 |
| bencoh | (the vm should still work though) | 23:41 |
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| tryagain | after patching sources.list and preferences i have a few warnings reported by apt-get update: http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=f35e52151 | 23:49 |
| tryagain | these are very like to what i after manually adding repositories before | 23:50 |
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| tryagain | and build fails: http://pastebin.notk.org/pastebin.php?show=f7c15052b | 23:53 |
| tryagain | i do not yet mind libfreetype6-navit-dev, but i expect others to be available | 23:53 |
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| bencoh | what if you install those? | 23:56 |
| bencoh | (dpkg-buildpackage wont install it for you) | 23:56 |
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| tryagain | wait, it looks like now i have system in better condition. It seems to be just a bit broken because of forced libdevil-dev installation | 23:57 |
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