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| Pali | hello, has somebody copy of original git repo git://gitorious.org/hildon-application-manager/mainline.git ?? | 00:20 |
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| Pali | I think we missed some commits in CSSU which were there! | 00:21 |
| Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, ^^^ | 00:21 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: we probably have it on the maemo.org servers, will check tomorrow | 00:23 |
| Pali | merlin1991, ok, looks like hildon-application-manager repo is in that backup list | 00:24 |
| Pali | please download also other personal repos for that one (which are in hildon-application-manager/*) | 00:25 |
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| Pali | merlin1991: also please restore: community-ssu/hildon-desktop-or community-ssu/hildon-desktop-without-clutter community-ssu/hildon-home-wallpapers community-ssu/maemo-camera-ui | 00:32 |
| Pali | those repos are missing on github | 00:33 |
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| Oksanaa | Barcode apps on Maemo need more work on them. Lasagne segfaults on me (not sure what its purpose is), mbarcode is good but out-of-date (just take a look at its web-plugins: most of them do not work, one way or another) | 06:19 |
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| * Oksanaa wonders if many people check backlog... Anyway, mbarcode needs some updates, especially its web-plugin | 10:55 | |
| Oksanaa | It's nice to hear about upstreaming, by the way :-) | 10:58 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Oksanaa: have you reported your segfault issue to Copernicus I am sure he will look at it | 11:01 |
| Oksanaa | Hmm, one moment, looking up at tmo... I just tried out lasagne as the only mbarcode-alternative | 11:04 |
| * Oksanaa would have liked to package mbarcode plugin, which is akin to barcode-deciphering-database and works offline - right now, it's only posted in a tmo post, and is far from comprehensive | 11:07 | |
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| freemangordon | Pali: re qemu issue - looked in the boths sides code (kernel/qemu) and it seems like there is a kind of problem in qemu. What happens is - kernel tries to execute SDIO command, which is not supported by qemu, but for some reason kernel gets an response with no error. So instead of breaking SDIO init, it continues, effectively putting the card out of "idle" mode | 11:15 |
| freemangordon | Maybe we should ask on the ML what is the proper way for qemu to report "SDIO not supported" | 11:17 |
| Pali | freemangordon: hm... ok, but why stock nokia kernel is working with qemu? | 11:17 |
| freemangordon | I guess it doesn't try SDIO | 11:17 |
| freemangordon | or, we should check what is the response on the real HW when SDIO init is attempted and fiz qemu | 11:19 |
| freemangordon | *fix | 11:19 |
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| Oksanaa | Hmm, does not segfault after reboot... Just calmly explains that camera lens cover is closed | 11:28 |
| Oksanaa | What about making a barcode plugin for default camera? And barcode-plugin-for-camera would in turn be extendable by plugins (like mbarcode is)? | 11:32 |
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| jonwil | merry xmas everyone :) | 11:50 |
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| Oksanaa | merry yule, and may magic be with you and yours :-) | 12:10 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: merry xmas :) | 13:08 |
| Oksanaa | Anybody wishes to join the camera competition? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=96130 | 13:10 |
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| Pali | hi! if somebody has on any maemo device file /home/user/.hildon-application-manager/available-notifications please share it with me | 15:11 |
| Pali | or if somebody knows format of that file, let me know! | 15:11 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, i think you can trigger it by installing older pkg then checking packages | 15:12 |
| Pali | KotCzarny: no | 15:14 |
| Pali | this file is downloading from http://repository.maemo.org/application-notices/notice-{HARDWARE}-fremantle.html | 15:15 |
| Pali | and we need to fix that file | 15:15 |
| Pali | HAM is configured to download original file from location http://tableteer.nokia.com/application-notices/notice-RX-51-fremantle | 15:15 |
| Pali | but original site does not working anymore | 15:16 |
| Pali | and so I do not know format of that file :-( | 15:16 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, both my N900 don't have it | 15:19 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=649557 | 15:19 |
| KotCzarny | this thread has some info about it | 15:19 |
| Pali | Sicelo: before HAM trying to update that file, it remove it | 15:20 |
| Pali | so we need either maemo device which was not turned on after nokia stopped that server | 15:20 |
| Pali | or we need some backup | 15:21 |
| Pali | which has it | 15:21 |
| Pali | KotCzarny: in that thread is same URL for diablo: http://tableteer.nokia.com/application-notices/notice-${HARDWARE}-diablo | 15:21 |
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| Vajb | could that file be aquired from freshly flashed device? | 16:00 |
| KotCzarny | unlikely | 16:00 |
| Pali | Vajb: that file is downloading from tableteer.nokia.com | 16:06 |
| Pali | so no, fresh flashed device cannot download it too, because server is down | 16:06 |
| Vajb | ah i see. No further thoughts then | 16:06 |
| Pali | anyway in cssu-devel is new package: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1492687&postcount=478 | 16:08 |
| Pali | fixes bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2141 | 16:09 |
| povbot | Bug 2141: Allow setting priority in Jabber/GTalk | 16:09 |
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| Pali | we have HAM sources... | 16:26 |
| Pali | so I will try reconstruct that file | 16:26 |
| Pali | format | 16:26 |
| Pali | KotCzarny: I found format of that file! http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/testing.html | 16:51 |
| Pali | http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/info-${HARDWARE} | 16:51 |
| Pali | for HARDWARE RX-34, RX-44, or RX-48 | 16:51 |
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| KotCzarny | :) | 16:53 |
| Pali | here are those files: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/hildon-app-mgr/www/ | 16:58 |
| Vajb | hmm jabber/gtalk bug reminded me of pidgin. It seems that maemo has pidgin-facebook plugin which uses (probably) facebook api. Problem is, it's not working | 17:00 |
| Vajb | it gives me other option than facebook xmpp, but still no go | 17:00 |
| Vajb | and there is pidgin plugin which is claimed to do it in desktop so person with enough skills could probably implement it to maemo's pidgin as well | 17:01 |
| KotCzarny | s/skills/motivation/ | 17:02 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 17:02 |
| Vajb | oh right! Thats another reason :) | 17:02 |
| Vajb | seems there is post about it in tmo also. sent 5 months ago and got zero replies :) | 17:06 |
| Vajb | i was thinking of posting about it too, but since finding this i wont bother. | 17:06 |
| Vajb | well if anyone cares i'll post link here https://github.com/jgeboski/purple-facebook | 17:08 |
| Sicelo | it definitely works on pidgin (desktop) i tested it yesterday | 17:09 |
| Sicelo | i may dust off my SB, but not making solemn promise, lol | 17:10 |
| KotCzarny | vajb, have you considered learning c? :> | 17:10 |
| Vajb | KotCzarny: yes i have, but seems i have came to conclusion of being too old... | 17:12 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 17:13 |
| KotCzarny | its very useful to know it | 17:13 |
| Vajb | i believe that | 17:13 |
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| Pali | great, that format on http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/testing.html is working! | 17:23 |
| KotCzarny | hoo-ray for diablo? | 17:24 |
| Pali | KotCzarny: I changed URL in file /usr/share/hildon-application-manager/defaults | 17:34 |
| Pali | to my server | 17:34 |
| Pali | and put here XML file in that structure | 17:34 |
| Pali | and my N900 show me notification update :-) | 17:34 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: now we only need to change DNS recoreds :D | 20:26 |
| Pali | yes :D but no idea how... | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | what was the URL? | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | gound it | 20:28 |
| Pali | original? | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | *found | 20:28 |
| Pali | http://tableteer.nokia.com/application-notices/notice-${HARDWARE}-fremantle | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 20:28 |
| Pali | now we have new working URL: http://repository.maemo.org/application-notices/notice-${HARDWARE}-fremantle.html | 20:29 |
| Pali | thanks to xes! | 20:29 |
| freemangordon | Pali: when is that URL chaked? | 20:29 |
| freemangordon | *checked | 20:29 |
| Pali | when HAM doing checks | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | oh, great | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | so, DNS records are on Nokia servers | 20:30 |
| Pali | every gconf seconds /apps/hildon/update-notifier/check_interval | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | so we should ask warfare to contact them | 20:30 |
| freemangordon | yep, got it | 20:30 |
| Pali | yes! | 20:31 |
| freemangordon | that is how we can promote CSSU to non-TMO users | 20:31 |
| Pali | you can edit /usr/share/hildon-application-manager/defaults file | 20:32 |
| Pali | and try yourself :-) it should work | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | or, we can (ab)use fmrx package | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | and dpkg-divert that file | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | instead of changing DNS records that is | 20:33 |
| freemangordon | but I guess this is material for the next cssu meeting | 20:34 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: where do you want the mainline ham repo? | 20:44 |
| Pali | merlin1991: do my hdd :D | 20:44 |
| Pali | tar.gz repos to server, and I will download tarball | 20:45 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/cssu/ham-mainline.tar.xz | 20:51 |
| Pali | thanks! | 20:52 |
| Pali | it is bzip2 not xz :-) | 20:52 |
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| merlin1991 | ffs j vs J | 20:55 |
| * merlin1991 hangs his head in shame | 20:55 | |
| KotCzarny | public flogging time? | 20:55 |
| merlin1991 | seems like | 20:55 |
| KotCzarny | at least its not zip wrapped in docx | 20:56 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: what's the difference between the maemo-camera-ui and the camera-ui repo? | 20:56 |
| Pali | merlin1991: no idea, this is reason why I'm asking for that repo | 20:56 |
| merlin1991 | iirc they were the same, but I'll give them to you to investtigate | 20:57 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: the rest is in http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/cssu/backups/ | 21:03 |
| Pali | ok | 21:03 |
| Pali | now merging HAM changes | 21:03 |
| merlin1991 | that's going to be interesting since we've divereged quite a lot already | 21:09 |
| merlin1991 | in case you're wondering community-ssu/hildon-home-wallpapers is the same as hildon-home that's why I didn't put it up | 21:10 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: merlin1991: what is that HAM mainline? | 21:38 |
| Pali | freemangordon: wait, I will push changes to github | 21:38 |
| Pali | merge comple | 21:38 |
| Pali | te | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | but, but, where did that come from? | 21:39 |
| Pali | mainline HAM repository on github | 21:40 |
| Pali | s/github/gitorious/ | 21:40 |
| Pali | at git://gitorious.org/hildon-application-manager/mainline.git | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | and this is not what we use in CSSU? | 21:40 |
| Pali | no) | 21:41 |
| freemangordon | omg | 21:41 |
| Pali | pushed | 21:41 |
| Pali | only 6 new commits are there | 21:42 |
| xes | at the end that gitorious backup has still some useful bit.. | 21:42 |
| freemangordon | why you didn;t push with rebase? | 21:43 |
| freemangordon | Pali: at least list the commits in debian/changelog | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | also, what kind of comment is that? https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager/commit/748d2e2ef0b948dbb84dee7f1e78fe98a88d6762#diff-ddaa7d6e643bc0d374add600b02445beR292 | 21:48 |
| Pali | debian/changelog commit is comming... | 21:52 |
| bencoh | would it be possible to publish the gitorious backup ? | 21:56 |
| bencoh | (ro http for instance) | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | good idea | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | I want to review those commits | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | Pali: maybe just upload it on https://github.com/maemo-foss | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: you menat the whole backup? | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | *meant | 21:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I suppose I am a bit late to the party but I have .hildon-application-manager folders on my devices. They are on all the time. | 22:00 |
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| xes | whole backup? >150GB? | 22:03 |
| freemangordon | yeah, not possible | 22:03 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: yeah | 22:04 |
| bencoh | it's not like people will fetch every single bit of it | 22:05 |
| Pali | sixwheeledbeast: check if you have available file | 22:10 |
| Pali | available-notifications file | 22:10 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Pali: no only last, seen and tapped | 22:11 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | one device has a "packages.backup" file but not found an "available*" file | 22:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | what the heck are you hackers inventing there again? you're incredible :-D | 23:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | push news to HAM? | 23:20 |
| Oksanaa | Just making sure that functionality does not become worse with time, and is not broken by infrastructure migration? ;-) Thanks a lot, by the way :-) | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, aiui we got a few orphaned repos which were once hosted by Nokia and are essential to maemo5 devices. Best way to fix the issue would have been to update the signature key but that's over now. So next best thing would be a patch to /etc/hosts | 23:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the tricky part is: such patch to etc/hosts would need to point to a IP that holds the repos, which is... questionable | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we once had a rather stable organizational infra in place, but that got nuked by a few stubborn councilors | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | who didn't understand about the tricky politics immanent in such structure | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need to be sort of schizoid to implement such stuff, and it doesn't help when others blame you for being schizoid | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there been a server called skeiron which had only approved material. Nobody knew who operated that server (I guess it was a guy in Singapore) | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless eventually a shitstorm broke loose against me, based on the allegation that I know that guy (a made up and never proven assumption) | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when the guy in Singapore heard about all that, he lost interest in running skeiron | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it turned into a dangerous swamp for him | 23:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and even for me | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whois skeiron.org still works. last traces | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a pity | 23:49 |
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| jonwil | whats all this talk about repos and stuff? | 23:58 |
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