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freemangordonjonwil: pong08:27
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jonwilCurrently playing with sink_subscribe_cb FYI08:31
jonwilcloning it (or trying to)08:31
freemangordongood. I was trying to compare maemo/meego/harm AEP08:31
jonwilok, any luck figuring out how close they are?08:32
freemangordonparameters *look* similar, but, there is a function in harm AEP called dsp_to_spea_switches(...)08:35
freemangordonit seems to convert aep parameters and switches from "meego" to "harm" format08:37
freemangordonso we might be lucky and RE *ONLY* SPEA, instead of the whole fremantle AEP08:38
freemangordonbut I think we should use functions from the Fremantle blob on the first stage, check if everything else works as it should and try to use SPEA instead. If it still works, RE SPEA, as I am not sure we'll be able to ...08:40
freemangordonRE Fremanle AEP in any sane shape08:40
jonwilok08:41
freemangordonjonwil: BTW, is is possible to dload a .so, even if it misses some dependencies?08:42
jonwilno idea08:42
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KotCzarnyfmg, maybe with faking functions with additional fake lib08:50
jonwilok, sink_subscribe_cb is done08:51
KotCzarnyjust to resolve symbols you wouldnt use, but it will fail if anything tries to use them08:51
jonwilAt least I think its a proper clone, not 100% sure I got it right08:52
freemangordonKotCzarny: the pint is that it needs version B of pulseAUDIO, while we have version A08:52
freemangordon*point08:52
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freemangordonoh, wait, RTDL_LAZY should do the job iirc08:53
freemangordonyep, looks like, have to try it when I have time08:54
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jonwilfreemangordon: thanks to the new HexRays and some other stuff, I was able to clone a couple more functions but now I am back to having nothing else to clone :)11:54
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KotCzarnywizzup: appears you were true about bananas: http://cbwebs.de/single-board-computer/banana-pi/several-networking-issues-with-my-banana-pi/15:56
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WizzupKotCzarny: :(18:27
KotCzarnydont know if only heat related or bad drivers18:28
Wizzupcould also be undervoltage, too high clocking, etc18:28
KotCzarnyi wanted to get banana pi r1, pretty nice all in one config (eth, 4p switch, sata, audio)18:29
WizzupI saw that one yeah, wonder how good the board support is.18:30
Wizzupnot too hopeful18:30
KotCzarnybananian claims it supports everything, didnt pursue further how opensource it is18:31
Wizzup'supports with custom android based 3.4 kernel'18:34
Wizzuptbh, I would still go for olimex ones any day18:34
KotCzarnyyeah, didnt get it after all18:34
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KotCzarnyits a pity broadcoom doesnt do opensource drivers for such basic things as eth and switch chips18:37
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KotCzarnyffs, why couldnt upnp were designed as a simple GET /some/dir18:55
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freemangordonKotCzarny: why don't you simply use mafw?19:01
KotCzarnyfmg, multiplatform compatibility19:01
freemangordonit is foss19:01
KotCzarnyi want a solution that would work almost everywhere19:01
KotCzarnycygwin included19:01
freemangordonah, no gstreamer there I guess19:02
KotCzarnyyup19:02
freemangordonso you're writing upnp client in C from scratch?19:02
KotCzarnyi just want upnp dev/file lister19:02
KotCzarnyyes19:02
bencohgstreamer runs on cygwin19:02
bencoh(and windows afaict)19:03
bencohI personally wouldn't touch it even with a stick, but ...19:03
KotCzarnyalso, one of the choosing points is minimal deps required19:03
freemangordonKotCzarny: BTW, I'd recommend ezxml as a lightwaight xml parser19:03
freemangordon*lightweight19:03
KotCzarnyuhum19:04
KotCzarnyi might give in to gupnp libs/tools19:04
freemangordonKotCzarny: http://ezxml.sourceforge.net/19:04
KotCzarnybut that would mean glib2 deps19:04
freemangordon^^^ depends on libc only :)19:05
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KotCzarnytalking about gupnp :)19:05
freemangordonI meant ezxml19:05
KotCzarnythx for it, would ease things a bit19:06
freemangordonI compiled/run that thingie on win, solarus (on Sun) and *nix19:06
freemangordon*solaris19:06
freemangordonboth 32 and 64 bit platforms19:07
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totalizatorhuh, can I use the cable shipped with N900 to connect Raspberry Pi B+ to a TV?19:19
KotCzarnytry it?19:19
KotCzarnyif the pinout is the same it would work19:19
Sicelo009NN900 ships many cables .. which one you mean? the CA-75?19:20
totalizatorno raspi yet19:20
KotCzarnyhttp://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/19:20
KotCzarnypinout here19:20
totalizatorSicelo009N: yup19:20
KotCzarnyquite likely it would work19:20
KotCzarnyunless it has switched pins 3 and 419:21
Sicelo009Ntbh i didn't know that 3.5mm on this RPi was video-capable19:21
KotCzarnyhttp://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-Nokia/nokia_n95_tvout_pinout.shtml19:22
KotCzarnyhmm19:22
KotCzarnyswitched19:22
KotCzarnybut its ca-75u19:22
totalizatorSicelo009N: I wasn't expecting this too19:23
KotCzarnybut adapter should be simple19:23
totalizatorgaaah, why?19:23
KotCzarnybecause nokia?19:24
totalizatorwhy there is nothing truly universal in this world19:24
KotCzarnybecause moneys19:24
KotCzarnyand patents19:25
totalizatorpatent monkeys?19:25
totalizatorwell, sounds legit19:25
KotCzarnypatent trolls19:25
Sicelo009NKotCzarny: N900 one is the *U19:25
Sicelo009Ni'd just left it out19:25
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Sicelo009Nnokia simply kept with the convention established in the 2.5mm jack days19:34
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KotCzarnyanother reason might be positioning of the ground in the jack port19:44
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Sicelo009Nhttp://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/understanding-trrs-and-audio-jacks/19:49
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BluesLee_~seen DocScrutinizer0520:33
DocScrutinizer51hi BluesLee_20:37
BluesLee_hi, can you join a short private chat?20:38
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DocScrutinizer51well, query me, we'll see how far my connectivity goes20:39
DocScrutinizer51basically I'm not even online :D20:40
DocScrutinizer51sick-leave20:40
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BluesLee_DocScrutinizer05: basically i have a defect n900 (usb port is broken). if you wish you can have it (no costs)20:48
DocScrutinizer51well, I'm never averse about receiving N900s, however it depends on origin since sometimes I have to pay mor custom tax than the whole device is worth20:49
DocScrutinizer51inner-EU is generally no problem20:50
DocScrutinizer51sending it as gift with clearly declared value lt 25EUR is usually also OK20:51
BluesLee_DocScrutinizer51 queries don't seem to work on your side i guess20:53
BluesLee_DocScrutinizer51 i will drop you a pm on tmo20:54
BluesLee_DocScrutinizer51 my location is Germany, so ..20:55
KotCzarnywell, .de -> .de parcels must be costly20:55
DocScrutinizer51BluesLee_: email please to contact at neo900 org20:55
DocScrutinizer51tmo pm sucks big time20:56
DocScrutinizer51queries usually work on my side20:56
BluesLee_can you open a query?20:56
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Siceloby the way, haha, open this website on your N900 (any browser) .... it is the website of the best bank in South Africa - https://www.fnb.co.za21:51
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keriowhat happens21:51
Sicelowrong orientation21:52
KotCzarnyislamic banking?21:52
KotCzarnyseriously, run21:52
Sicelohaha. i don't know how they got it messed up this way today. it's always been fine.21:53
Siceloand is still fine on computer21:53
KotCzarnymaybe preparing to switch21:53
Siceloi guess someone wanted to detect screen orientation, and messed it up21:53
Sicelofor page reflow maybe :/21:53
Sicelothis also happens on other devices, although in portrait most display it "correctly"21:54
Siceloso i guess dumb webmaster simply tested with some SGS perhaps (maybe friday afternoon) :p21:55
KotCzarnymore like apple21:55
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KotCzarnyone of the images: https://www.fnb.co.za/03images/chameleon/iosHomeScreen/icon.jpg21:56
KotCzarnyalso, see the source21:57
KotCzarnyits.. umm21:57
KotCzarnynot pretty21:57
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Siceloi was trying to put in a suggestion on their website, and it wants my ID. wut!22:01
Sicelo009Ngawd! had not looked at the source. :/22:04
KotCzarny;)22:04
KotCzarnywarned you22:05
Sicelo009Nsome people are in jobs they don't deserve22:05
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jonwilhi22:22
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DocScrutinizer51maemo urgeently needs an 'expert mode' setup for internet connections' priorities and properties22:26
DocScrutinizer51for some weird reason the 3G movistar connection doesn't autoconnect when I leave WLAN range22:27
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Sicelo009Nicd2 unhappy?22:29
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Sicelo009Nmine works fine (generally)22:30
KotCzarnysame22:31
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DocScrutinizer51generally works fine for me too. Just not with this movistar 3G roaming22:35
Siceloyou've set it to auto-roam? (i of course guess you have?)22:36
DocScrutinizer51I think I have22:38
DocScrutinizer51need to check22:38
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DocScrutinizer51another big bummer of maemo: how the hell would I manage to have stereo mp3 music on wired and BT headset concurrently, so me *and* my GF can listen to epic Stranglers songs?23:00
Sicelo009Nnot sure if android would give you that? or ios? :p23:01
DocScrutinizer51Nokia in their eternal arrogant wisdom err hybris decided user doesn't need to mess with audio settings23:01
kerioayy pulseaudio lmao23:02
DocScrutinizer51pukeau.. err polypaudio? POTTERING23:02
DocScrutinizer51~POETTERING23:04
DocScrutinizer51damn bot scheduler23:04
bencoh~poeterring23:12
bencohnah23:12
bencoh~poettering23:12
bencohah, I see, nevermind :)23:12
bencohDocScrutinizer51: I'm not sure to really get the usecase though23:12
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