IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2015-11-27

freemangordonok, anyway I was about to go to bed :)00:00
jonwilok :)00:00
jonwilso yeah leave voice-cmtspeech.c alone until I say otherwise (proper cloning of thread_func & friends is the last thing to do in that file) and check status.txt for other files containing needs-cloning functions to work on instead :)00:01
jonwilwhen you do more work on things that is :)00:02
freemangordonyeah00:02
freemangordonBTW, are you sure that reset_call_stream_states does not set u->cmt_connection.record_running and u->cmt_connection.playback_running?00:02
jonwilreset_call_stream_states does set both00:03
freemangordonoh, sorry, a bit sleepy already:00:03
freemangordonI meant:00:03
freemangordonare you sure those 2 are not reset in ul/dl_deactivate?00:04
jonwilhmmm yeah maybe you are right and voice_cmt_dl_deactivate/voice_cmt_ul_deactivate does set them00:04
jonwilgood call00:04
jonwilI might have miss-read what was going on in the meego source00:04
jonwilits logical that those 2 functions set them00:04
freemangordonyes00:04
jonwilwill fix00:04
freemangordonalso, close...on_error calls reset_call_stream_states, not deactivate functions IMO00:05
jonwilit cant call reset_call_stream_states00:05
freemangordonwhy?00:05
jonwilsince we know from thread_func that reset_call_stream_states has a pa_log_xxx call with its name in it00:06
jonwiland close_cmtspeech_on_error has no such log00:06
freemangordonhmm, right00:06
freemangordonbut those 2 calls do the same, unless I am missing something00:06
freemangordon2 calls == deactivate functions00:07
jonwilthere are other things to add to reset_call_stream_states when I get to that bit00:07
jonwilnot just the debugs but something else that close_cmtspeech_on_error doesn't do but reset_call_stream_states clearly does00:07
freemangordonok00:07
freemangordonbut please, fix that deactivate functions first, to not forget it later00:08
jonwilyes I fixing deactivate now00:08
jonwiljust pushed :)00:08
freemangordonalso, please add that missing pa_rtpoll_install(u->cmt_connection.rtpoll); in thread_func :)00:09
jonwilyeah that's going to happen in a sec when I start from the top of thread_func and reverse engineer it00:09
freemangordonok00:10
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jonwilmissing pa_rtpoll_install added :)00:15
jonwilI now have to verify mainloop_cmtspeech and one bit in thread_func00:15
jonwiland the things mainloop_cmtspeech calls :)00:15
freemangordon:)00:18
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Luke-JrFWIW, I got my USB cable snagged and the cable broke instead of the N900 :D03:52
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SiceloLuke-Jr: lucky :)08:49
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Luke-JrSicelo: well, I did pre-solder it down, so it may be more "good job" than luck XD09:44
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SiceloLuke-Jr: lucky :)10:02
Sicelohaha, sorry .. backsrolled10:02
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Siceloso trouble in Jolla-land it seems :/10:16
Humpelstilzchen<--ordered a tablet :(10:16
* jonwil wonders if there is anyone left in this community that understands the mysteries of the battery and charger logic in the N90010:19
KotCzarnyjonwil, isnt bme replacement already written?10:20
Siceloi have never really followed Jolla news (because i knew i didn't afford it). why did stskeeps leave?10:20
jonwilbme replacement needs new kernel and I dont want to run new kernel if there is a solution to my battery wierdness that doesn't require doing so10:20
KotCzarnyjonwil, what new kernel?10:21
KotCzarnyits still 2.6.28 afair10:21
jonwilnew in the sense that AFAIK its been modified from the stock N900 kernel10:21
KotCzarnyand what is exactly problem with that?10:21
Sicelojonwil: pali?10:21
Siceloand DocScrutinizer0510:21
Sicelowhat battery weirdness by the way?10:21
jonwilfor some reason whatever BME does to say "hey, the charger isn't plugged in any more, switch indications from "charging" to "discharging" isn't being sent10:23
KotCzarnyyou mean stuck orange?10:23
jonwilstuck orange flashing10:23
KotCzarnyyeah, happens sometimes10:23
jonwilI have my N900 sitting on my desk in front of me with nothing at all plugged into the USB port and the LED is flashing orange10:23
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jonwiland the battery status bar widget is stuck in animating mode10:24
KotCzarnyi usually just reboot10:24
jonwilIt happened earlier today too in that it stayed stuck green10:24
KotCzarnybut i dont know if cssu fixed it (my main n900 is still with the stock fremantle)10:25
jonwilok, now this is VERY wierd10:25
jonwilI just powered it off and its powered down10:25
KotCzarnystill charging? ;)10:25
jonwilnow when I hold the power button to power it up, the screen displays the nokia logo in that "very dim" state it displays in nolo-emergency-charge mode and then a second or so later the status LED goes bright yellow then fades out10:27
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jonwilI just cant get my phone to boot at all with no charger plugged in10:29
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KotCzarnyremove battery, wait 10s, reboot?10:30
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jonwilnope, no go, same thing10:31
KotCzarnytreat as flatbat?10:31
KotCzarny~flatbat10:31
KotCzarny~ping10:31
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infobot1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss10:33
jonwilIf I have the charger plugged in and I put in the battery, it powers up in actdead mode10:33
jonwilthen boots to normal mode if I press power10:33
jonwilIt seems like something is causing the phone to think a charger is plugged in when its not10:33
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jonwiltime for a post on tmo, maybe someone will know whats going on10:36
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Sicelocheck syslog too, and hoping you don't have hw defect10:38
jonwilI dont have syslog installed10:41
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jonwilnothing battery related in dmesg10:42
jonwilaha, lets see what happens if pull out my usb cable and plug my N900 into my PC10:42
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jonwilok, that gives me the usual choices of mass storage and PC suite10:43
jonwilso its picking up that the cable was plugged in10:43
jonwilhildon-status-bar-usb displays the correct things too10:43
jonwilok, it correctly recognized the USB cable was disconnected and that there is no longer a cable plugged in10:44
jonwiland its not displaying the "charging" indicator it was when the USB cable was connected to my PC10:44
jonwilnow lets see what happens if I try a restart10:45
KotCzarny-2 in int is 0xfffffffd ?10:46
jonwilno, 0xFFFFFFFE is -210:46
KotCzarnyuhum10:46
jonwil0xFFFFFFFD is -310:47
Luke-JrKotCzarny: you cannot depend on anything specific there, it's undefined10:47
Luke-Jrunless you mean specifically on N900, but that's just bad code <.<10:47
KotCzarnydifferent question then, if i wanted to clear second bit will this do: val=val&0xfffffffd ?10:47
KotCzarny(ints)10:47
Luke-Jr…no10:48
Luke-JrKotCzarny: note that ints do not have a well-defined width10:48
KotCzarnyare there standard setbit/clearbit/checkbit funcs?10:48
Luke-Jrthey may be 16-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit, or larger10:48
jonwilYou want val=val&~210:48
jonwilthat will clear bit 210:48
KotCzarnyjonwil: thanks10:48
jonwilassuming this is C code10:48
jonwilor C++10:48
Luke-Jr^ +110:49
KotCzarnyc10:49
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jonwilok, so something is definatly wrong with this phone, nothing I do gets it to boot up from power off state with no USB cable plugged in10:49
Luke-Jrbtw, using &~2 will clear the bit with value 2, not bit in position 210:49
KotCzarnyhmm10:49
Luke-Jrif you want the bit in position 2, you need &~(1<<2) or &~(1<<(2-1)) depending on 0-based or 1-based10:50
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Luke-Jrunless you're counting bits from the other side of the number, in which case .. have fun :/10:50
KotCzarnyi'll just use ~210:50
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Sicelojonwil: 0.o    ... it doesn't boot with power button when nothing's connected?10:51
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jonwilposted to tmo about my wierd powerup/charging/etc issues11:37
jonwillets hope someone can find an answer beyond "your phone is screwed"11:37
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KotCzarnyhuh, n900@500mhz is too slow for earwax12:07
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KotCzarnywhich weirdly as it is is just 64 multiplies every sample12:08
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jonwilit really is a pitty Pali seems to have left the community, he was the one who knows about bq27200 charger chip and how all that stuff works12:13
KotCzarnypali didnt left the community12:13
KotCzarnyunless you know something i dont12:14
jonwilmaybe he hasn't left but he hasn't been around in ages12:15
KotCzarny~seen pali12:15
infobotpali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #neo900, 23d 10h 43m 5s ago, saying: 'campaign for what?'.12:15
jonwilsee, 23 days since last seen12:15
jonwilthat counts as "AWOL" in my book :P12:15
KotCzarnymight be work/vacations :P12:15
jonwilmaybe12:16
jonwiland yeah trying pali-bme-replacement as a possible solution to my issues is out since it does need a new kernel12:16
KotCzarnystill, he didnt say anything about dropping maemo/n9x12:16
jonwiland I dont want to run kernel-power or kernel-cssu or kernel-bme or whatever the hell it is these day that you need12:16
jonwildays12:16
KotCzarnyjonwil, you should update to cssu anyway12:17
KotCzarnymost of work is done there12:17
jonwilyeah I am running most of the cssu work12:17
KotCzarny:)12:17
jonwilnot everything (i.e. not kernel) but most of it12:17
KotCzarnybtw. are you good at optimizing code? maybe mmx/sse/neon wizard?12:18
jonwilI dont know anything about mme/sse/neon12:18
KotCzarnyi have small function that i need speeding up for n90012:18
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Sicelodid freenode make some statement regarding these splits?12:48
KotCzarnynot via notice12:49
Siceloi didn't think there would be pirate activators for Windows 10, given how it works12:51
KotCzarnywho would want win10 anyway?12:51
KotCzarnyit's spyware/adware12:51
Sicelothe people for whom computing == microsoft windows + microsoft office12:52
KotCzarnyum, xp is enough for that i guess12:52
Siceloin any case, i'm guess it is more risky using cracked windows 10 given the amount of spy data it keeps sending to M$12:53
jon_yMS would be happy for you to pirate win1012:54
jon_ythey still get data12:54
jon_yand keep their market share12:54
KotCzarnytrue that12:55
KotCzarnyuserbase ftw12:55
Sicelothey need/want revenue .. they haven't become a charity yet12:55
KotCzarnyit makes institutions consider it as viable platform12:55
kerioyou can get a "legit" w10 license tied to your hardware if you activate windows 7 and then upgrade to 1012:56
kerioat that point you can do a clean w10 install and you still keep the license12:56
Siceloyes12:56
kerioit even works if you're moving from a bios to a uefi install12:56
kerio...OR SO I HEARD12:56
Siceloi'm  talking about someone with no license at all12:56
KotCzarnyi practically use windows for gaming only12:58
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kerioSicelo: yes13:02
kerio"""activate""" windows 713:02
keriowith loader by daz13:02
KotCzarnyoh, notice from freenoce13:04
KotCzarnyddos on the go13:04
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DocScrutinizer05\o/ mquin13:11
DocScrutinizer05things the world doesn't need: http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/26/scientists-create-gold-nuggets-that-are-98-percent-air13:11
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: the raspberry pi zero is 5$13:20
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keriowhy can't the neon board be 5$ :c13:20
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yddd~flashing16:51
infoboti guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh16:51
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ro9u3orive been having problems accessing the repository for the N900, Im wondering if it is posible to add the repository's to the local SD of the tablet making it more easily accessible17:51
KotCzarnyyes17:52
KotCzarny~apt-mirror17:52
KotCzarny~aptmirror17:52
KotCzarnyanyway. google for apt-mirror17:52
ro9u3orty17:52
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KotCzarnywow, usb fm transmitter dongle costs ~30usd, one can have whole n900 for that price19:00
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sunshavimmm, that price is excellent but not here en south america19:01
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Sicelo:D19:01
KotCzarnywell, still, it's amazing comparison19:02
KotCzarnyi wonder what would be the price to produce n900 today19:02
KotCzarny(with similar specs/features)19:02
Sicelo13:02 < kerio> Sicelo: yes19:02
Sicelo13:02 < kerio> """activate""" windows 719:02
Sicelo13:02 < kerio> with loader by daz19:02
Siceloi wonder about this ... obviously M$ should be able to tell if it was a pirate activation or not19:03
kerioand yet19:03
KotCzarnysicelo, keep in mind when they went too nazi, many corporate vendors had user troubles19:04
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sunshaviKotCzarny: right, sw would be an issue, my difficult issue with n900 is the lcd screen, It has been broken 2 times19:05
SiceloW10 also not allowing people to install pirate games .... sounds very risky to run  a pirate activation then.19:05
sunshaviKotCzarny: right now is still broken. I have a permanent bluetooth nap connection enabled on n800, and control it with shortcuts19:06
Siceloanyway maybe just FUD ... but i won't test this with my IP :)19:06
Sicelosunshavi: that's nice :)19:06
KotCzarnysunshavi: you should be more careful, maybe buy a case?19:06
sunshaviKotCzarny: sorry n90019:06
sunshaviKotCzarny: not easy to get a case here. It is like tony stark with making his suit on afganistan :p19:07
KotCzarnymake one?19:07
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sunshaviKotCzarny: mmm, I have never thought about it. That would be a great project. On my todo list for n900 is making an audio menu on emacs for making calls, when no computer near me. It happens a lot of times. When travelling to visit my parents19:09
sunshaviKotCzarny: btw, emacs on n900 and tinyCC too19:09
Siceloif i were to make one i'd make it cp-408 look-alike. love that case, but was never sold SA side :(19:09
sunshaviSicelo: I have never heard of it, I am going to take notes, thanks19:10
kerio¯\_(ツ)_/¯19:10
KotCzarnyi just put it in the side pocket of my backpack19:10
BluesLee_!seen DocScrutinizer0519:10
KotCzarnyblueslee: its ~19:10
BluesLee_thanks19:11
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KotCzarnyhi pali, jonwil was missing you greatly19:21
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PaliKotCzarny: hi19:23
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KotCzarnyjonwil: pali is alive23:10
jonwil:)23:11
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Ashley`Pali: i was looking for you23:26
Ashley`Pali: over a year ago :D23:27
PaliI'm here!23:27
Ashley`Pali: https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2014-02-19.log.html#t2014-02-19T23:13:1623:27
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chadhello guys, was trying to download backupmenu from the n900 installer, I don't use SSU and would like to start. The installer can't download it, do you think I should start the endless update process?23:51
chad(just because it is very slow and I don't know what package to download for my system)23:52
chadI started it anyway lol, who knows when I'll use it again23:53
chadit still fails, took less than I thought because repositories didn't work. I'm going to install it via .deb, trying with 1.2.0-2 armel23:56

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