| Sicelo | mine are 800x480 | 00:02 |
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| Oksanaa | By the way, what program can perform 90 degrees rotation of png image? Photos prefers jpg, MyPaint doesn't do rotation... | 00:02 |
| Oksanaa | Hmm, then what's wrong with my desktop file?.. | 00:03 |
| Sicelo | there's imagemagick for n900 | 00:04 |
| KotCzarny | tissi, use gstreamer, it has dsp decoding | 00:04 |
| Oksanaa | imagemagick /shudders/ I do have it installed, but how to use it?.. | 00:05 |
| KotCzarny | oksanaa, there is huge manual for it, you know, google | 00:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Oksanaa: I meant http://www.sibelius.com/products/audioscore/ultimate.html http://connect.avid.com/AudioScoreUltimate-Demo.html | 00:16 |
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| Oksanaa | Yes, I noted, I am just that stubborn about choosing open-source... | 00:18 |
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| mtnman | elho | 00:25 |
| ceene | Oksana: convert -rotate 90 input.png output.png | 00:34 |
| ceene | or infile mogrify -rotate 90 file.png | 00:34 |
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| KotCzarny | hrm | 10:25 |
| KotCzarny | my n900 hung during the night charge | 10:25 |
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| KotCzarny | green light, but not reacting to power button | 10:25 |
| KotCzarny | oh, finally, after some time it reacted | 10:26 |
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| donatello_ | whats the most embarassing thing that ever happened to your n900? | 11:01 |
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| donatello_ | i dropped mine in the toilet bowl while having an explosive shit | 11:01 |
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| ceene | so it seems WA lifts bans on numbers after ~60 days, i.e. 2 months | 13:04 |
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| KotCzarny | so 60 accounts should get you through the devving | 13:04 |
| ceene | lol | 13:05 |
| ceene | assuming i only fuck it up once a day | 13:06 |
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| donatello_ | hey, i just installed x11vnc on my n900 | 13:54 |
| donatello_ | accessing it from my laptop with viewer client | 13:54 |
| donatello_ | one question comes to mind, is it somehow possible to use the remote desktop application while the device screen is in a locked state (the physical "lever" on the side of n900 having been used to lock the device and shut down the screen) | 13:55 |
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| ceene | i haven't been able | 13:59 |
| ceene | in fact, after a while without use, the screen goes off and so does the remote viewer | 13:59 |
| ceene | there's a dbus call to unlock and power on the screen, but that's not ideal as the screen is on and wasting power | 14:00 |
| Oksanaa | ceene: Thank you! /trying it out now/ donatello_ : making my n900 (with broken microusb) unable to boot, by filling up rootfs insanely, by trying to use it for on-device development | 14:00 |
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| * Oksanaa waves in welcome | 14:02 | |
| ceene | :) | 14:02 |
| donatello_ | well, that's a shame | 14:04 |
| donatello_ | anyway, is it normal that mplayer crashes every time i try to use it to play a mp3 file | 14:05 |
| Oksanaa | No! | 14:05 |
| donatello_ | i always get "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module" | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | what repo is this mplayer from? | 14:05 |
| Oksanaa | well, not for default media player at least. I do not use alternative media players much; default works, for mp3, ogg, flac, mod... | 14:06 |
| Oksanaa | Which module, by the way? | 14:08 |
| KotCzarny | oksanaa, it has nothing to do with .mod files | 14:08 |
| KotCzarny | just an error message | 14:08 |
| donatello_ | KotCzarny: extras | 14:08 |
| donatello_ | well, i use my n900 as a music player for my stereos | 14:09 |
| KotCzarny | donatello, wanna try something nice? | 14:10 |
| donatello_ | i'd like to be able to control the functions through ssh | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | ~oscp | 14:10 |
| infobot | oscp is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 | 14:10 |
| Oksanaa | I mean, if I google text of error, I get decode_video, demux_open, key_events, or whatever... I am taking a guess that module is important | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | you would like it, and it has remote controls | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | (and can be run with ncurses interface too) | 14:10 |
| donatello_ | KotCzarny: thanks, i'll sure check that out | 14:11 |
| donatello_ | installing atm | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | be sure to greb one from extras-devel, its much newer | 14:13 |
| KotCzarny | *grab | 14:13 |
| donatello_ | yep | 14:15 |
| donatello_ | KotCzarny: its great, i'm using it right now, digging the interface | 14:18 |
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| ceene | KotCzarny: you should upload it to github or whatever | 14:18 |
| KotCzarny | you can use both ncurses interface and remote interface at the same time | 14:18 |
| KotCzarny | ie. if you have 2 n900, you can leave one by stereo and control from another n900 (or laptop/pc) | 14:19 |
| KotCzarny | ceene: getting there, still have to make proper building/configuration system | 14:19 |
| ceene | no you don't :P | 14:20 |
| ceene | you first upload it | 14:20 |
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| KotCzarny | donatello, if you find any issues/have any feature requests, be sure to post to the talk.maemo page above | 14:20 |
| ceene | and maybe someone makes the build system for you | 14:20 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 14:21 |
| KotCzarny | ceene, what i would like is having native windows gui(remote) | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | pygtk instalation is a cow | 14:23 |
| KotCzarny | big cow | 14:23 |
| ceene | i can't help you there | 14:26 |
| ceene | i couldn't write a gui even if my life depended on it | 14:26 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 14:26 |
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| ceene | some visual basic stuff or whatever they use now should be pretty easy, nonetheless | 14:27 |
| ceene | or some java thing | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | assuming one owns vb/vc suite | 14:27 |
| ceene | not that i like java | 14:27 |
| KotCzarny | java is a cow too (though would have a bonus of working almost everywhere) | 14:28 |
| ceene | i think visual studio is now free under certain circumtances? | 14:28 |
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| ceene | oe some lite version of it | 14:28 |
| ceene | and pyqt? is it lighter? | 14:29 |
| KotCzarny | unlikely | 14:29 |
| KotCzarny | also, i have shivers at the thought of writing qt/c++ code | 14:29 |
| donatello_ | KotCzarny: i havent figured out how to turn up volume xP | 14:31 |
| donatello_ | + button on kbd doesnt seem to do anything | 14:31 |
| KotCzarny | donatello, keys are configurable | 14:31 |
| KotCzarny | also, it uses software volume, so click on the traybar near the clock and set volume there | 14:32 |
| KotCzarny | let me check ncurses volume keys | 14:32 |
| * Oksanaa has written in HTML, XUL, JS, CSS, C++Qt, Qt-QML, GTK+C, some-small-python... GTK+C is the best | 14:32 | |
| KotCzarny | volume keys are set to -/= | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | but you can change them in ~/.oscp.conf | 14:33 |
| donatello_ | oh yeah found it | 14:34 |
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| someuser | hello, is it possible to ask someone to delete my maemo.org profile? i don't have access to the garage.maemo.org account anymore because I deleted it a while ago, but my profile still shows up on maemo.org/profile/view/... | 19:55 |
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| KotCzarny | ~listkeys staff | 19:58 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'staff' by key (7): weathercode longstaff blf ;; staff smite ;; cmd: staff (.*?) ;; weathercode longstaff bluff ;; mash_staff ;; ~staff #DEL# ;; weathercode flagstaff. | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 19:58 |
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| KotCzarny | ~listkeys web | 20:01 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'web' by key (14 of 194): acc'd to the website, ibot's 'console' ;; cpanels web site ;; crl webcam ;; damn, apple's german webshop ;; open webmail ;; simple web server ;; snoweb ;; so its using viewml for web? do you know if anyone ;; web ;; web e-mail ;; web site ;; webaccountant ;; webalbum ;; webapp-reverse-proxy. | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | ~listkeys #maemo web | 20:02 |
| infobot | Factoid search of '#maemo web' by key returned no results. | 20:02 |
| someuser | i've tried emailing them but no reply | 20:03 |
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| KotCzarny | keep in mind maemo is nonprofit i guess | 20:09 |
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| MonkeyofDoom | is there a way to stop headphone unplug events from reaching whichever daemon listens for those? | 22:33 |
| KotCzarny | use jack adapter? | 22:33 |
| MonkeyofDoom | ? | 22:34 |
| KotCzarny | 4 pin into 3 pin | 22:35 |
| MonkeyofDoom | my headphone jack is flaky, so afaik that wouldn't help | 22:35 |
| MonkeyofDoom | I was hoping to tell the software to just try its hardest to keep playing on headphones | 22:35 |
| KotCzarny | glue it? | 22:35 |
| KotCzarny | fix it? | 22:35 |
| MonkeyofDoom | that would be ideal, yeah | 22:36 |
| MonkeyofDoom | but opening my n900 and mucking around is a little higher-stakes than poking at software... they're not exactly easy to come by in case I ruin something | 22:36 |
| KotCzarny | depends on region, quite a lot of them going second hand here | 22:37 |
| bencoh | I'd try dbus-monitor (or mdbus2? I never remember those) | 22:37 |
| bencoh | to trace the dbus event | 22:37 |
| KotCzarny | there is also /sys/ entry but i dont know if anything writes to it or is just gpio from the kernel | 22:38 |
| MonkeyofDoom | dbus-monitor shows volume changes on plug/unplug but that's it | 22:38 |
| MonkeyofDoom | tbh I wouldn't mind too much except there's some race condition that copies headphones volume to speaker volume or vice-versa | 22:38 |
| KotCzarny | its more than that, it also reroutes audio | 22:39 |
| KotCzarny | most of it happens in pulseaudio | 22:39 |
| MonkeyofDoom | rerouting audio is expected | 22:39 |
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| klopsi | amazing number of chatters still here :) | 23:03 |
| klopsi | What is a youtube player for maemo that still works? | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | cutetube2 | 23:04 |
| klopsi | my repo only has cutetube | 23:05 |
| klopsi | am i missing a repo or is that hosted outside of repos? | 23:06 |
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| klopsi | ah i am missing devel | 23:06 |
| KotCzarny | sad state of repos | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1488237&postcount=48 | 23:08 |
| KotCzarny | interesting summary of 'what's wrong with jolla/harmattan' | 23:09 |
| klopsi | can you please trigger the bot to show repo list? | 23:10 |
| bencoh | cutetube2 should probably go in -testing (at least) | 23:10 |
| bencoh | I wonder what marxian thinks about that | 23:11 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 23:11 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 23:11 |
| klopsi | ty | 23:11 |
| KotCzarny | no cutetube2 in -testing | 23:12 |
| KotCzarny | i guess he gave up even before rewrite | 23:13 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: I know it's not their, I'm just saying it should be | 23:14 |
| bencoh | as a maintainer you can "promote" a package to -testing | 23:15 |
| KotCzarny | s/their/there/ | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | yes, i know you can promote, but -testing wasnt meant for end-users either | 23:16 |
| KotCzarny | -devel for devs, -testing for testers | 23:17 |
| bencoh | sure, still that'd be better than -devel =) | 23:17 |
| KotCzarny | nooope | 23:17 |
| bencoh | ... I think we're running in circle | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | it could be just 2 repos | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | extras and -testing (or -devel, depending which name you like more) | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | one for users and one for testers/devs | 23:18 |
| M4rtinK | KotCzarny: wow, I'm getting kinda worried about Pichlos sanity | 23:19 |
| bencoh | no, -testing and -devel do not fill the same need | 23:19 |
| M4rtinK | KotCzarny: that post is not making sense | 23:19 |
| KotCzarny | M4rtinK: not at all? (i havent touched n9/jolla dev because i dont have them) | 23:19 |
| bencoh | "Lastly, QML is a resource hog" that's true | 23:20 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: think about it this way: dev does code on his machine, builds package, tests it on his device (without going through repos). if he/she is satisfied, he uploads it for testing/promotion | 23:21 |
| KotCzarny | so what is the point of -devel ? | 23:21 |
| MonkeyofDoom | tbh I never understood why Maemo has both GTK+ and Qt in the base--using one toolkit for everything would have been lighter on RAM and mmc usage | 23:22 |
| M4rtinK | historical reasons | 23:22 |
| KotCzarny | MonkeyofDoom: n9 has no gtk (at least officially) | 23:22 |
| MonkeyofDoom | hm | 23:22 |
| KotCzarny | but people wanted apps to run, so they ported it to it | 23:22 |
| MonkeyofDoom | fair, I guess | 23:22 |
| M4rtinK | I mamanged to build GTK for the N9 back then ;-) | 23:22 |
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| KotCzarny | and similar for n900, it had gtk, qt came later | 23:22 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC Nokia contributed to GTK/Gnome/Clutter quite a lot | 23:23 |
| M4rtinK | but then they bought Qt and switched to it instead | 23:23 |
| M4rtinK | at first to mobile styled QWidgets | 23:23 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: problem is, dev (sometimes) tests through -devel | 23:24 |
| klopsi | i dont see how to paste a youtube url into cutetube2 - is that possible? | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | then to QML once it came in Qt 4.7 | 23:24 |
| bencoh | klopsi: yeah, with some dbus-fu | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | bencoh: well, sometimes you don't have a choice other than the autobuilder for packaging | 23:24 |
| bencoh | M4rtinK: exactly :) | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | working Maemo 5 SDK is hard to come by these days | 23:24 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh; key word 'sometimes' | 23:25 |
| bencoh | and sometimes you just want to test everything, from packaging to deps | 23:25 |
| KotCzarny | but still, -testing is for testers, not endusers | 23:25 |
| KotCzarny | so people should run with -testing enabled all the time | 23:25 |
| KotCzarny | s/should/shouldnt/ | 23:25 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: so people shouldnt run with -testing enabled all the time | 23:25 |
| bencoh | I didnt say they should | 23:25 |
| bencoh | I only said cutetube2 should probably go at leastthere | 23:26 |
| bencoh | 23:10 < bencoh> cutetube2 should probably go in -testing (at least) | 23:26 |
| KotCzarny | klopsi: vajb tried cutetube2 integration, and someone else, dont remember bencoh or sicelo | 23:26 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, nite nite | 23:26 |
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| klopsi | ah pasting links into cutetube2 search works | 23:27 |
| klopsi | great program! it lets me choose resolution/quality | 23:28 |
| bencoh | klopsi: really ? | 23:28 |
| klopsi | worked for me | 23:28 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: unfortunately it wasn't logged by infobot so I'll have to grab n900 to look for the dbus thing :) | 23:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: hmm? | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I'm missing some context, due to some /ignore | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: but chanlogs are on http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog , see /topic | 23:47 |
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| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, it's just that the ones from infobot.rikers are google-indexed :) | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hm, that's weird | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I should ask TimRiker what's the deal with his robots.txt | 23:55 |
| bencoh | the search box on mg.pov.it is a pain | 23:55 |
| bencoh | 0 matches in 3297 log files with 5557701 lines (66.4 seconds). | 23:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, I asked the maintainer to augment it to narrow search with a start and end date | 23:55 |
| bencoh | google is a tiny bit quicker (and usually gives an answer ;) | 23:56 |
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