IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2015-11-11

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klopsi-u3 n900 still best phone01:20
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OksanaTrying to build a binary package on-device is insane, even if it is as simple as maemopad ...09:01
OksanaAs in, too many build-dependencies09:01
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KotCzarnyyup09:35
KotCzarnythat's debian for you09:35
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* Oksana is still trying to do it10:04
Oksanawhat is dh_clean ? It's not in build-dependencies, or something, because building failed10:05
KotCzarnyman dh_clean on debian-like system?10:06
KotCzarnyand i bet its just some script you can copy from lenny10:07
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Oksanaacp: unrecognized option `--remove-destination'10:14
OksanaaWhat package or config is needed for this?10:14
OksanaaAnd yes, I am still trying to build maemopad on-device10:15
OksanaaLag: 9210:17
KotCzarnyi guess its old sh10:18
KotCzarnyerm10:18
KotCzarnybusybox's sh10:18
OksanaaOkay, what's new sh?10:19
KotCzarny1/ install bash3 or bash410:19
KotCzarny2/ find the script containing --remove-destination and change first line to bash3 or bash410:19
* Oksanaa tries bash310:19
Oksanaaalready installed10:20
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ceeneit's gonna be binutils then10:46
ceenecoreutils: /bin/cp10:46
ceenenop10:46
ceenecoreutils10:46
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KotCzarnyceene, you cant easily replace system ones11:05
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sunshaviHi guys. any idea where I can get libicd-network-dummy for n800 (os2008)17:07
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klopsi-u3~repo17:16
infobotThe webos-internals source code repositories are hosted at http://gitorious.org/webos-internals and http://gitorious.org/webos-applications17:16
klopsi-u3eh wut17:16
klopsi-u3sunshavi: sorry i don't know the current location of os2008 repo17:17
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sunshaviI got a link to gitorious that does not exist17:20
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sunshavican I just get the n900 equivalent and compile it. The worst that would happen is it not working17:27
klopsi-u3dpkg-buildpackage -r fakeroot  :)17:39
sunshaviklopsi-u3: thoes links are broken on my side. Those links work for You?17:42
klopsi-u3the links from infobot are not maemo os200817:44
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sunshaviRight. But are wroken or do they work on git?17:45
klopsi-u3the link doesn't work for me17:46
krnlynghi, i have installed community ssu testing to install a newer version of gcc, but apt-cache does not find any new packages, what do i have to do?17:51
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sunshavithe only place where I got running a new compiler (for n800) was on scratchbox2 aka sb2. No idea if that is possible for n900. Or if the CSSU let's You do that.18:04
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KotCzarny~maemo-repos18:22
infobotmaemo-repos is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories18:22
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klopsi-u3sunshavi: ^18:29
sunshavithanks klopsi that's the one that is enabled on this device, ircing from it now18:33
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OksanaaIs there a way to auto-write-down musical notes by having software listen to musical file (such as, flac)?22:43
OksanaaOr is asking the author for notes easier?22:43
klopsi-u3 Oksanaa i started researching that in 1991, not an easy problem to solve22:44
klopsi-u3 A trained ear can pick-out the notes from a complex piece, but no software i know of can22:45
klopsi-u3 unless you are talking about a flac file with just one instrument playing22:45
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KotCzarnywell, fft peaks will show the notes22:56
KotCzarnyso its just as easy as writing peak hunter22:56
KotCzarnyand usually you look for specific hz range, so that makes it easier22:57
klopsi-u3 fft peaks will show you notes and overtones, and peaks caused by overlapping sounds22:58
KotCzarnysure, but its up to you to choose which are notes and which are overtones22:59
KotCzarnyif you train on some specific instrument you can look for sets of peaks23:00
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klopsi-u3 i don't think you will find software that can make a transcript of complex recorded music23:04
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OksanaMusic played by one musician cannot be _that_ complex, right? Even if he uses electronic music?..23:06
bencohactually it can be quite "complex"23:06
bencohcomplex enough to translate it back to notes/chords on a sheet, at least23:07
KotCzarny:)23:07
bencohit's a bit like RE/disassembling :)23:07
KotCzarnystill, doable if you have at least a bit of musical talent23:07
KotCzarnyand software can help23:08
bencohKotCzarny: I think it takes a lot more than just "a bit of musical talent"23:08
OksanaAlright, with electronic music he is not exactly confined to one instrument at a time... Actually, I will just ask him. I hope he would be interested in somebody trying to put text to his text-less music23:08
OksanaOn the note, would anybody be interested in extending media player subtitles plugin to display subtitles for music (not only video) ?23:09
KotCzarnywell23:09
klopsi-u3not me23:09
OksanaBecause I do not see other way to display lyrics for songs?23:09
KotCzarnymidi format already has ability to synch text to music23:10
Sicelothere are lyrics in OMP23:10
OksanaHow to see them?23:10
bencoherr ... do you think the gstreamer subtitles plugin works well enough as it is?23:10
KotCzarnyand any competent midi player would be able to do it23:10
bencohit's slow as hell :/23:10
bencoh(at least for libASS subtitles)23:10
SiceloOksana: how to see them? enable the function :)23:10
bencohI get framedrop when trying to use it23:10
KotCzarnymost musicians make music using midi23:11
bencohKotCzarny: ermm ....23:11
KotCzarnyat least that was the case some time ago23:11
* Sicelo loves MIDI .. from the days of polyphonic tones :)23:11
KotCzarnybecause midi is not just plinking, its also about synchronizing events23:11
bencohsome musicians still play on organic instruments, you know ? :D23:11
KotCzarnyhmm, maybe i shall add text events to midi files too23:12
OksanaYes, I know. But they do not often record their music ;-/ I do attend local ensemble concerts sometimes, but they would benefit from recording and releasing the pieces, I think23:12
KotCzarny(though i think i did it already, just not showing)23:13
KotCzarnyoksana, so its not original music just some dj mixing things?23:13
bencoh"dj" ...23:13
ecc3g\23:14
KotCzarnydo they use instruments at all?23:14
KotCzarnyif yes, put camera nearby ;)23:14
OksanaThe one local I am visiting is real-music, aka piano, violin, flute, and some other instruments23:17
KotCzarnyor mic, that way you will grab the important fft peaks easier23:17
klopsi-u3look at a fft of complex music more closely KotCzarny23:18
klopsi-u3it's a mess23:18
KotCzarnyklopsi, one instrument uses only SOME of it, and at fixed places23:19
OksanaThe local often plays "well-known" music, such as Mozart, so finding notes for it should be easy. But the flac I am listening to is not-local-DJ, and I do not think he has published his notes23:19
KotCzarnyoksana, use any audio editor that can show you the fft, then estimate how clearly you can see instruments that interest you23:20
KotCzarnybest parts are when there is no noise/arrangements in the bg and only interesting instrument is playing (ie. solo)23:21
bencohKotCzarny: have you ever tried that?23:21
KotCzarnyyes23:22
KotCzarnyi've seen many ffts23:22
KotCzarnyand there is a good chance to see notes clearly23:23
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klopsi-u3btw back around 1993 there was a program that let you make a soundfile out of an image, treating the image as a fft23:25
klopsi-u3aphex twin put his face into one of his songs23:26
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KotCzarnyaphex style allowed such thing23:38
KotCzarnytry that with the pop music23:38
klopsi-u3hehe23:38
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