IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2015-10-23

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klopsi-u3thanks for the advice Maxdamantus00:12
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klopsi-u3What's the best N900 browser?04:44
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OksanaNot sure. MicroB is dependable and well-integrated with other apps. Fennec is a tad newer, much slower, and not that well-integrated. Opera gets praised a lot. I have yet to find links-with-ssl-css-and-js ...05:02
klopsi-u3Websites haven't gotten slimmer since 2009 :(05:06
klopsi-u3Often i wait 2 minutes + to open a page05:07
jonwilPitty there is no up-to-date browser for N900, both microb and Fennec are old05:07
OksanaWell, chromium is somewhere, but I don't expect is to be up-to-date either05:09
klopsi-u3maybe one of the openpandora browsers could be built05:10
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klopsi-u3~posc07:06
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Siceloklopsi-u3: ~oscp perhaps?07:49
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klopsi-u3~oscp07:50
infobotwell, oscp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9459007:50
klopsi-u3ty07:50
klopsi-u3ah now i remember this07:52
klopsi-u3~osc07:53
infobotit has been said that osc is Open Sound Control07:53
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KotCzarnythere is no osc specific thread (yet)07:54
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jonwilanyone here know of an easy way to add new entries to debian changelogs?08:17
KotCzarnycopy paste usually works08:18
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zGrrmoin :)10:36
klopsi-u3hi10:45
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inzooh, I'm being hit by quite well formulated maemo related comment spam on my blog, interesting13:33
Siceloenglish please.. :)13:42
Sicelowhat's up?13:42
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Youbi_On CentOS 7, when I plug my N900 (and select Mass Storage Mode), I can’t mount (nor fdisk) the partitions on it.14:56
Youbi_The device is detected, though.14:56
Youbi_(Well, I just did it again, and now it works)14:58
keriothere's no partitions14:59
kerioMyDocs is exported as a superfloppy14:59
Youbi_Yep, I just got it15:01
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MaxdamantusThe UMS mode in Maemo is implemented incorrectly.15:06
MaxdamantusIt shouldn't be used imo.15:06
Maxdamantusif unmounting fails, it does a lazy unmount and continues.15:06
Maxdamantuswhich isn't actually an unmount.15:07
Maxdamantusit just removes it from the filesystem namespace.15:07
Maxdamantuslazy unmounting the SD card even has an entry in sudoers, great.15:10
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keriomass storage mode is trash anyway15:17
KotCzarnyit has its uses15:18
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MaxdamantusI use it manually for live images stored on the filesystem.15:21
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Oksanaamilkytracker is funny. Where does its GUI come from? It's neither Qt nor GTK+ nor Hildon nor ncurses. It's something lower-level, like X or something...15:34
KotCzarnydo ldd15:35
KotCzarnycheck what libs it uses15:35
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Maxdamantuslibx11 isn't that difficult to use.15:49
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KotCzarnyyup15:50
KotCzarnybut requires writing own widgets15:50
KotCzarnybuttons, boxes, scrollboxes15:50
MaxdamantusIndeed.15:50
KotCzarnystill, makes app nondependant and light15:50
KotCzarnyfltk is pretty light15:51
Maxdamantusit looks like it uses SDL.15:51
bencohwhat, fltk?15:51
bencohno, there is a x11 backend15:51
bencohmain "issue" with fltk is C++15:53
MaxdamantusI don't think it uses fltk.15:53
bencohoh, you meant milkytracer ... nevermind :)15:54
KotCzarnybencoh, you can use c++ with c15:55
KotCzarnyoscp uses libsidplay2 which is c++15:55
bencohsure, but ....15:58
bencoh"meh" :)15:58
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Youbi~flashing21:41
infobotit has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh21:41
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Youbi~flashing21:41
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh21:41
YoubiKooda: ^21:41
Koodathx :o21:41
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