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| audiophilo | does anyone use yappari? | 00:25 |
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| Ashley` | hello | 00:26 |
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| bencoh | hey | 00:46 |
| Sicelo | audiophilo: i do | 00:46 |
| Ashley` | what's up? anything happening in the community? | 00:47 |
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| jonwil | hi | 00:49 |
| * jonwil is currently fiddling with parts of the connectivity UI with the intent to possibly clone the cellular and/or internet status bar widgets | 00:49 | |
| Ashley` | i miss my n900 | 00:51 |
| Ashley` | (usb...) | 00:51 |
| Sicelo009N | fixable | 00:52 |
| audiophilo | Sicelo009N, something VERY weird happens to me. i can send and receive messages to and from many of my contacts but for some of them i can only send. They can read what i have written but when they answer nothing appears in my chat. Did it ever happen to you? | 00:53 |
| Sicelo009N | no. but it appears to be .. whatsapp allows encrypted messages. yappari doesn't support them yet. so that's why you get nothing. look at the yappari thread on tmo | 00:54 |
| Sicelo009N | next version promises a workaround for this issue | 00:54 |
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| audiophilo | Sicelo009N, thank you very much :) | 00:57 |
| Sicelo009N | yw | 00:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~usbfix | 01:01 |
| infobot | usbfix is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=1866, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt | 01:01 |
| Ashley` | i dont have the tools | 01:04 |
| Ashley` | and i dont have experience with things like that | 01:04 |
| Sicelo009N | get someone else then | 01:05 |
| Ashley` | i don't really have any friends that do things like that xD | 01:06 |
| Ashley` | my sister asked her friend, but he told he won't be able to do it | 01:07 |
| Sicelo009N | shops? | 01:09 |
| Ashley` | not in my town | 01:12 |
| Ashley` | i'll be moving out in under a year to a bigger city :P | 01:13 |
| Ashley` | maybe then~ | 01:13 |
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| Birched | Does anyone have experience with bent frames? The frame on my N900 is bent such that it constantly presses on the screen. | 02:19 |
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| klopsi-u3 | need to reflash a N900 - are there firmware files somewhere? | 09:29 |
| Wizzup | ~flashing | 09:30 |
| Wizzup | hmmmm..where is infobot | 09:30 |
| Wizzup | Sicelo009N: usb is not always fixable | 09:30 |
| Wizzup | on one of my n900s, the traces were damaged | 09:30 |
| Sicelo_w | yes, i'm aware :) .. he didn't say that's what he had | 09:31 |
| Wizzup | :0 | 09:31 |
| Wizzup | :) | 09:32 |
| Wizzup | afk | 09:32 |
| Sicelo_w | and, even with damaged traces, you *can* connect to other places on the board (although there was concern about fuses. but it works) | 09:32 |
| Wizzup | I know that, yes | 09:32 |
| klopsi-u3 | !flashing | 09:32 |
| Wizzup | It is a possibility | 09:32 |
| Sicelo_w | :) | 09:32 |
| Wizzup | klopsi-u3: the bot is not here | 09:32 |
| Wizzup | klopsi-u3: I did type the correct command | 09:32 |
| Wizzup | the answer is, yes there is firmware | 09:33 |
| Wizzup | I just don't know where, the bot does. | 09:33 |
| klopsi-u3 | ah | 09:33 |
| klopsi-u3 | the wiki points to tablets-dev.nokia.com | 09:33 |
| klopsi-u3 | ah the pov logs say http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz | 09:35 |
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| klopsi-u3 | never thought i'd be using the N900 six years later | 09:48 |
| KotCzarny | im using n900 since 2009 | 09:48 |
| KotCzarny | i even gor me 2 more for testing and development | 09:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | hi KotCzarny you did great work with emulators | 09:49 |
| KotCzarny | i did great work with audio player | 09:49 |
| klopsi-u3 | oh i don't know about that | 09:49 |
| KotCzarny | ~oscp | 09:49 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, bot missing | 09:49 |
| Luke-Jr | klopsi-u3: I hope it ends before 7 years | 09:49 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94590 | 09:50 |
| Luke-Jr | I will miss the camera tho | 09:50 |
| klopsi-u3 | oh right | 09:50 |
| klopsi-u3 | Javispedro did the emulators | 09:50 |
| klopsi-u3 | you did the audio visuals | 09:50 |
| KotCzarny | that too | 09:50 |
| KotCzarny | and helped with uae amiga emulator | 09:50 |
| * Luke-Jr wonders how many other N900 users are upgrading to Pyra. | 09:51 | |
| klopsi-u3 | i pre-preordered a pyra | 09:51 |
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| klopsi-u3 | evildragon also used n900 until the usb issues discouraged him | 09:51 |
| KotCzarny | usb issues are mostly user related | 09:52 |
| KotCzarny | mine doesnt have this proble (spits over the left shoulder) | 09:52 |
| klopsi-u3 | how many n900s do you have? | 09:52 |
| KotCzarny | one just have to be careful when connecting/disconnecting | 09:52 |
| KotCzarny | 3.5 | 09:52 |
| KotCzarny | 3 working and one for parts | 09:53 |
| klopsi-u3 | i filed off the hooks of my microusb cable | 09:53 |
| klopsi-u3 | so it pulls out easily | 09:53 |
| KotCzarny | i didnt, i just connect/disconnect carefully and never putting any stress on the connector when connected | 09:54 |
| klopsi-u3 | does flash-it-all.sh download the firmware image? | 09:56 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 09:56 |
| klopsi-u3 | do you also have an openpandora? | 09:57 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 09:57 |
| Luke-Jr | USB issues? | 09:58 |
| Luke-Jr | I've never had any USB issues, but I also only use it for charging and soldered the port down good a long time ago | 09:59 |
| Luke-Jr | (I'm not particularly careful plugging/unplugging it; hopefully I don't need to be with it soldered down?) | 10:00 |
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| klopsi-u3 | osc is open source? maybe i could compile it for openpandora | 10:00 |
| KotCzarny | it should work there, op uses armel and alsa? | 10:01 |
| klopsi-u3 | yes | 10:02 |
| KotCzarny | then it should simply work | 10:02 |
| klopsi-u3 | it uses microphone for input? | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | also, are you talking about osc or oscp? | 10:03 |
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| klopsi-u3 | i don't know oscp | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | uhum | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | osc just uses whatever you set alsa as recording device | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | it doesnt change any settings | 10:04 |
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| bencoh | Luke-Jr: I'll probably order one (pyra) but I doubt it'll be a replacement for me | 10:22 |
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| Sicelo_w | KotCzarny: https://cmus.github.io/ | 10:51 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo? | 11:03 |
| KotCzarny | oscp has more formats and (imo uses better libs) | 11:05 |
| KotCzarny | libxmp > libmodplug | 11:05 |
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| Sicelo_w | :) | 11:09 |
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| Maxdamantus | That cmus screenshot is horrible. | 11:15 |
| Maxdamantus | wtf happened to the font rendering in it? | 11:15 |
| Maxdamantus | I'm pretty sure it's far worse than OS X normally. | 11:15 |
| KotCzarny | maybe its shot on ubuntu with some osx theme | 11:16 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe it's just the colours. Subpixel antialiasing tends to suck variably based on colours. | 11:16 |
| klopsi-u3 | good music selection | 11:16 |
| Maxdamantus | it has "osx" in the filename. | 11:16 |
| KotCzarny | heh | 11:17 |
| KotCzarny | still, looks like library based player | 11:17 |
| KotCzarny | (and oscp main feature is being folder based) | 11:17 |
| * Maxdamantus uses mpd + qmpc on his N900. | 11:18 | |
| * Maxdamantus uses mpd + xbindkeys and a random program he wrote on his main computer. | 11:19 | |
| KotCzarny | also, apparently author should use openmpt instead of libmodplug | 11:33 |
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| Ashley` | Pyra means potato in polish | 17:06 |
| Ashley` | well, not in polish | 17:06 |
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| Ashley` | in a dialect of polish | 17:06 |
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| KotCzarny | infobot: wb | 18:55 |
| infobot | It's great to be back! | 18:55 |
| KotCzarny | its host seems weird tho | 18:56 |
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| bencoh | true | 18:57 |
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| KotCzarny | its authorized properly to freenode | 18:58 |
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| KotCzarny | could be migrated | 18:58 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, wireless controller + tv make n900 quite nice gaming machine (using emus_ | 19:37 |
| APic | Yah | 19:40 |
| * APic played through the SNES-Game „Chrono-Trigger“ back in 2010 when i got my first N900 | 19:41 | |
| APic | Not on TV though, just in Trains etc | 19:41 |
| APic | There was one Situation where i needed to bind 2 Movement-Keys to a single N900-Key in Order to climb a snowy Mountain B-) | 19:41 |
| bencoh | I had to bind keys for left+up and right+up as well :) | 19:43 |
| joga | heh I also played lufia II pretty far | 19:43 |
| joga | they're pretty good commuting games as you can easily save the state and pause it and pick it up again later, and they're turn-based | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | bt controllers dont support multikeys? | 19:44 |
| KotCzarny | joga: emualtors usually can save machine state at any time | 19:44 |
| joga | KotCzarny, yeah I know | 19:45 |
| joga | but it makes them convenient | 19:45 |
| joga | (also great games when compared to typical apps) | 19:45 |
| klopsi-u3 | chrono trigger was a great game | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | ive played chrono series via epsxe | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | and usb pad | 19:46 |
| KotCzarny | (on pc, didnt have n900 at that time) | 19:46 |
| joga | heh I just recently installed uae4all too | 19:47 |
| KotCzarny | lately i just play 1 game | 19:47 |
| KotCzarny | for thousands of hours (according to steam) | 19:47 |
| klopsi-u3 | which game? | 19:47 |
| KotCzarny | borderlands series | 19:48 |
| KotCzarny | it just makes me feel good for some reason, splosions | 19:48 |
| KotCzarny | and lots of debris flying | 19:48 |
| KotCzarny | http://sigalonmobile.soup.io/tag/ps3?since=47823368 | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | i mean this: http://www.slashgear.com/sonys-degradable-game-trial-concept-shrinks-your-sword-unless-you-pay-up-0576811/ | 19:59 |
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| zGrr | enlarge your sword as you pay up strategy wasn't successful enough? | 20:09 |
| KotCzarny | no, prevent shrinkage by paying up | 20:09 |
| zGrr | i wonder why big pharma never though of it before? | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | are you sure they didnt? | 20:10 |
| zGrr | no, i'm not | 20:10 |
| klopsi-u3 | flasher seems to not work on amd64 | 20:12 |
| KotCzarny | define 'not work' | 20:12 |
| KotCzarny | not running or not detecting device | 20:12 |
| klopsi-u3 | i'm missing an ia32 libusb-0.1.so.4 | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | apt-get install libusb0 or something? | 20:13 |
| klopsi-u3 | tried that, it installs the 64bit version | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | or just copy that dir to lib32 | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | i mean that file to lib32 | 20:14 |
| klopsi-u3 | tried symlinking to the 64bit version but that says wrong ELF class | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | no | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | it wont work | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | i can give you mine (still using 32bit linux) | 20:14 |
| klopsi-u3 | which makes sense | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | but just grab the debian one | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | just the file | 20:14 |
| klopsi-u3 | ok | 20:15 |
| KotCzarny | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/i386/libusb-0.1-4/download | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | but dont install it, just unpack and copy to lib32 (or whatever its named) | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | apparently its /lib/i386-something | 20:16 |
| KotCzarny | if you run ldd flasher-3.5 you should see where you have the libs | 20:17 |
| klopsi-u3 | libusb-0.1.so.4 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4 (0xf76ba000) | 20:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | ls /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libusb* | 20:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4 | 20:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | trying flash again | 20:18 |
| klopsi-u3 | ok problem solved | 20:19 |
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| Maxdamantus | Don't copy it into lib32. | 21:45 |
| Maxdamantus | Just set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or LD_PRELOAD when you run the program. | 21:45 |
| Maxdamantus | Avoid screwing with system directories manually for random one-off things you're going to forget about. | 21:45 |
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| KotCzarny | maxd, but its safe | 21:58 |
| KotCzarny | and most libusb0's are same version | 21:59 |
| Maxdamantus | It's configurationally stupid. | 21:59 |
| KotCzarny | if it works its not stupid | 21:59 |
| KotCzarny | and i've seen worse | 21:59 |
| Maxdamantus | You only want the library to use that program, so unless it's coming from the system installer, put it in its own place (or next to the program) | 21:59 |
| Maxdamantus | Things that work are often stupid. | 21:59 |
| KotCzarny | you are going too distro-nazi-correct | 22:00 |
| KotCzarny | in this particular case not many things use it | 22:00 |
| Maxdamantus | Well, I'm the one who hasn't reinstalled his distribution in eight years. | 22:00 |
| Maxdamantus | The point was that not many things use it. | 22:04 |
| Maxdamantus | So you have useless crap dangling around in directories that should be maintained mostly by the package manager. | 22:05 |
| Maxdamantus | There's a reason for /usr/local | 22:05 |
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| KotCzarny | maxd: i havent reinstalled my slackware since 8.0 | 23:18 |
| KotCzarny | also i agree about /usr/local | 23:18 |
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| KotCzarny | still, in this particular case its old lib without any new revisions | 23:19 |
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