| DocScrutinizer05 | the emphasis in the question however is on "meeting friends", not on "in the pub" | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW most pubs have a hard time between boredom and bankruptcy here - possibly actually thanks to the idiotic no-smoking regulations | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on a tiny note of common sense: all innkeepers were free to declare their pub non-smoking since beginning of times | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it would have promised higher sales, they probably had done, and some pubs or restaurants actually did and lived fine from it, until this idiotic nanny-ism got a hold on our government | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what's next? All pubs and restaurants only may offer vegetarian food? And diet coke and beer without alcohol? | 00:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I don't smoke so ... I quite like not smelling of smoke TBH. | 00:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I still understand it's not an ideal situation of sending people into the outside naughty shed. | 00:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I also agree about the emphasis being on meeting friends etc... | 00:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I feel without meeting and talking the next generation will grow up to be infobots... | 00:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~botsnack | 00:21 |
| infobot | thanks, sixwheeledbeast^ | 00:21 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | infobot, yw | 00:22 |
| infobot | [yw] you're welcome | 00:22 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | :) | 00:22 |
| bencoh | :] | 00:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't like the smell of hairspray and strong perfume. So I want pubs that don't allow women (not really, just to make a point about regulations) | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, and btw some perfumes are more toxic than cigarette smoke | 00:41 |
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| * Oksana would have liked xchat, but yes, there were issues with SSL support. Can try it again now... By the way, I think that the XChat version in Maemo repositories is not the latest one in existence /vegetarian food... Nice touch. And about smoke and perfumes: I don't like smell of either. Delegating toxic perfumes into smoke-alike category would be nice / | 00:43 | |
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| KotCzarny | instead of banning women, why not bad hairspray and perfume? | 01:49 |
| KotCzarny | (he he) | 01:49 |
| ds3 | the answer to all the problem is a mandatory reduction in population density. | 01:49 |
| KotCzarny | can we start with china/africa/india etc? | 01:50 |
| ds3 | if you look at it, it is really a density issue | 01:51 |
| KotCzarny | density comes from uneven distribution of goods/services | 01:51 |
| Oksana | Yes, more uniform distribution of everything and everybody would solve a lot of problems... | 01:56 |
| KotCzarny | communism! | 01:57 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 01:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, spreading the 500 billion € of the 500 richest persons in germany would make quite some sense | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~500000000000/81000000 | 04:28 |
| infobot | 6172.83950617284 | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, that's almost nothing | 04:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, maybe make that only 10% of their assets, but every year | 04:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | make it 20% and it would probbaly pay for everybody's health insurance | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I guess somebody who managed to get a billion in a lifetime _must_ make a 20% from their assets every year, easily | 04:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~1.2**60 | 04:36 |
| infobot | 56347.514353166662 | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~10**9/1.2**60 | 04:36 |
| infobot | 17747.011762264206 | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | amazing! when you start with 20000EUR given to you at your birth and you manage to make a 20% on it every year, you would end as billionaire in the age of 60? | 04:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | either my math fu or my guts feeling is borked | 04:39 |
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| ecc2g | ~10**9/1.05**60 | 05:22 |
| infobot | 53535523.746494144201 | 05:22 |
| ecc2g | ~10**9/1.1**60 | 05:23 |
| infobot | 3284270.28147280775 | 05:23 |
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| KotCzarny | doc: basic thing broken with 'spreading' or 'giving', people who receive things without any effort needed to acquire, often just lose it (buy usuless things), which is why that money goes back to 'the rich' | 09:30 |
| KotCzarny | *useless | 09:32 |
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| KotCzarny | what is needed is making non-monetary values priority | 09:35 |
| KotCzarny | few days ago s. hawking said that egoism is the main thing that will end humanity (not robots/ai, not aliens or anything else) | 09:36 |
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| Youbi_ | Hi ! On my n900, I set up an alarm and shut it down for the whole night, and this morning, when I woke up and turne off the alarm, and chose to turn my n900 up, it just shown the NOKIA boot screen, and then shut down. | 09:40 |
| KotCzarny | low battery? | 09:40 |
| Youbi_ | I had to plug the ac adapter to charge it and make it boot. | 09:40 |
| KotCzarny | put it on charger for 30 min at least | 09:40 |
| Youbi_ | Yep, thinking about that, but the battery level was almost half before shutting it down… | 09:40 |
| KotCzarny | so?, bad battery can lie about capacity remaining | 09:41 |
| KotCzarny | ie. failing faster | 09:41 |
| KotCzarny | ~polarcell | 09:41 |
| infobot | [polarcell] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390402445382 BL-5J Replacement | 09:41 |
| Youbi_ | Oh, so bad. Well, I have a spare original battery, will try with it. | 09:41 |
| Youbi_ | Thanks, it seems to be a nice replacement ^^ | 09:42 |
| KotCzarny | yes, it was reported multiple times that this brand is solid | 09:43 |
| Youbi_ | Is there a way to force the automatic time update? Because it doesn’t seem to take effect here | 09:46 |
| KotCzarny | ntpdate pool.ntp.org ? | 09:46 |
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| Youbi_ | Ah, yeah, ntpdate. I’ll try it | 09:50 |
| KotCzarny | you might need to either compile it or just use debian's armel etch binary | 09:51 |
| KotCzarny | or squeeze, dont remember | 09:51 |
| KotCzarny | right, lenny | 09:51 |
| KotCzarny | extract just the binary from ntpdate_4.2.4p4+dfsg-8lenny3_armel.deb | 09:52 |
| Youbi_ | but ntpdate is a daemon, right? | 09:54 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 09:54 |
| KotCzarny | you are thinking about ntpd | 09:54 |
| Youbi_ | Oh, ok /o\ | 09:54 |
| KotCzarny | but as i said, grab ntpdate and make a desktop shortcut for it | 09:55 |
| KotCzarny | easy and wont eat your precious memory for running daemon | 09:55 |
| Youbi_ | Ok. It’s strange that the update doesn’t take effect… | 09:57 |
| KotCzarny | works for some gsm networks, fails for some | 09:57 |
| KotCzarny | for me its not working neither | 09:57 |
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| Sicelo | the polarcell is a normal size battery? no need for 'fancy' cover? | 12:23 |
| * Luke-Jr got the 'fancy' cover just so the N900 would fit tightly in the N810 case <.< | 12:23 | |
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| KotCzarny | yes, polarcell is standard bl-5j replacement, but bigger in capacity (1500+) | 12:42 |
| KotCzarny | they have other form factors too | 12:44 |
| Maxdamantus | Mine is apparently around 1590 mAh (labelled as 1500 though) | 12:48 |
| * Sicelo900 needs two | 12:50 | |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 shakes head about youbi leaving IRC. As a matter of fact, one night with enabled 3G connectivity for example easily could cut through 100% of a decent good battery, depending on data traffic via 3G, *both* directions (so you couldn't even take control about the amount of traffic if it's unsolicited inbound). Suggesting "get a new battery" is shooting too short and not really helpful | 13:35 | |
| KotCzarny | doc, have you read it at all? he said he set up and alarm and TURNED DEVICE OFF | 13:40 |
| KotCzarny | before you go on preachy beachy, read first | 13:40 |
| KotCzarny | with comprehension for best results | 13:41 |
| KotCzarny | s/and/an/ | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | have you asked what he actually meant by "switch it off"? How would a - however crappy - battery go empty from even a fake 50% charge when device was actually shut down to power-off state? | 13:45 |
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| KotCzarny | most people use term 'shut down' for, you know, shutdown | 13:47 |
| KotCzarny | <Youbi_> Hi ! On my n900, I set up an alarm and shut it down for the whole night, and this | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is obviously a noob user, have you considered that he might not even know the difference between lock screen and "turn device off" | 13:48 |
| KotCzarny | we can ask him later, for now its moot | 13:48 |
| Sicelo900 | two of you are generating spam. i'm on a metered connection | 13:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I said, yes | 13:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo900: what? | 13:49 |
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| Sicelo | hmmm | 13:55 |
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| Youbi_ | Is there a way to install python3.4 on the n900? | 15:58 |
| KotCzarny | answer is: maybe | 15:58 |
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| KotCzarny | also, out of curiosity, when you've said 'shut down' the device for the night, you meant poweroff or just screen lock? | 15:59 |
| Youbi_ | I meant poweroff | 15:59 |
| KotCzarny | cool. | 15:59 |
| Sicelo900 | it's available in repos | 15:59 |
| KotCzarny | also, python3.4 is in extras-devel | 15:59 |
| Youbi_ | I added extras-devel to repositories in fast application manager, but I get errors… | 16:00 |
| KotCzarny | ~fap | 16:00 |
| infobot | it has been said that fap is good | 16:00 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 16:00 |
| KotCzarny | ~fapman | 16:00 |
| infobot | from memory, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 16:00 |
| KotCzarny | install cssu and just use ham | 16:01 |
| KotCzarny | its much faster and more compatible | 16:01 |
| bencoh | it's in -testing, not in -stable. | 16:01 |
| Youbi_ | ham, the original application manager? | 16:01 |
| KotCzarny | yes, but from cssu | 16:01 |
| KotCzarny | its improved greatly | 16:01 |
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| KotCzarny | also, what error you get? | 16:02 |
| bencoh | is it just me or TMO is quite slow? | 16:03 |
| Youbi_ | Well, actually, I can’t find python3.4 using ham. It’s in community-testing, right? | 16:03 |
| bencoh | (accessing subforum index) | 16:04 |
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| Youbi_ | Also, I tried to install CSSU thumb (It’s not a problem for me to flash my device if I get problems), but I can’t update my system, the error is | 16:05 |
| Youbi_ | “missing package: libspeex1 (>= 1.2~beta3-1) | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | quick tip, some package relies on it and blocks the update | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | quick tip2: for cssu, install it on clean device | 16:07 |
| Youbi_ | Yep, I got it, but the package can’t be found. | 16:07 |
| KotCzarny | youbi: you wont see some packages in ham/fam, you can use apt-get install python3.4 etc | 16:07 |
| Youbi_ | What do you mean by “clean device” ? | 16:08 |
| KotCzarny | ie. freshly flashed | 16:08 |
| Youbi_ | I flashed my device, then installed CSSU stable, then CSSU-testing, and now CSSU-thumb | 16:09 |
| KotCzarny | if you dont know debian tools well here's a cheatsheet: http://wiki.maemo.org/Slimming_OS | 16:09 |
| Sicelo900 | the libspeex issue is being tackled. in the meantime, you can install libspeex from the other repos | 16:09 |
| Youbi_ | I know a bit about apt-get, but thanks! | 16:09 |
| bencoh | ~repos | 16:10 |
| infobot | rumour has it, repos is "deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ ./ ;; deb http://maemo.muarf.org/apt-mirror/mirror/downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/mr0/ ./", or see http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 16:10 |
| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 16:10 |
| infobot | well, maemo-repos is http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 16:10 |
| Youbi_ | But even when I do `apt-cache search libspeex`, I get nothing. | 16:10 |
| Youbi_ | Will check those urls, thanks ^^ | 16:10 |
| KotCzarny | find which package depends on it | 16:11 |
| KotCzarny | ie. find reverse deps on libspeex | 16:11 |
| Youbi_ | For mirror lists, I just have to replace the one on my system with the fremantle repos listed on the wiki? | 16:13 |
| Sicelo900 | libspeex1 <-- don't leave out the 1 | 16:13 |
| KotCzarny | youbi: you dont really need those nokia repos | 16:14 |
| Youbi_ | You mean the standard one (which do not exist anymore, as I understand) | 16:15 |
| Youbi_ | Ah, forget about my last sentence. | 16:16 |
| Sicelo900 | you need those repos for libspeex :) | 16:16 |
| Sicelo900 | or add the sdk repo | 16:16 |
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| bencoh | adding the sdk repo isnt really "the proper way" to do it, but ... :) | 16:19 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 16:19 |
| Sicelo900 | i'm just saying where to find the package :) | 16:20 |
| bencoh | Youbi_: yeah, they're meant as a drop-in replacement | 16:20 |
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| KotCzarny | in other words, they are mirrors | 16:25 |
| Youbi_ | Ok I got it. | 16:26 |
| Youbi_ | Mirrors of the original Nokia SSU, now replaced by the Community SSU, but there is no libspeex in the Community SSU? | 16:26 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 16:27 |
| Sicelo900 | wring | 16:27 |
| Sicelo900 | *wrong | 16:27 |
| KotCzarny | nokia ssu != community ssu | 16:27 |
| KotCzarny | nokia ssu mirrors == nokia ssu | 16:27 |
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| KotCzarny | cssu is something completely different than nssu | 16:28 |
| Youbi_ | But community ssu provides updates that nokia ssu does not provide? | 16:28 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 16:28 |
| KotCzarny | they might have few common packages, but mostly different | 16:28 |
| Youbi_ | Ok. | 16:29 |
| Youbi_ | I get it. | 16:29 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 16:34 |
| Youbi_ | Yeah, just installed libspeex1 | 16:36 |
| Youbi_ | (and yes, apt-get is much more easy for me than the graphical UI) | 16:36 |
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| Youbi_ | I think I broke my system. | 16:47 |
| Youbi_ | I did `apt-get upgrade` and reboot. | 16:48 |
| Youbi_ | And now my n900 doesn’t boot anymore :3 | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | um | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | wild guess, you have extras-devel enabled? | 16:48 |
| Youbi_ | Yep :/ | 16:48 |
| Youbi_ | So I’m going to flash it again | 16:48 |
| KotCzarny | never upgrade with extras-devel or extras-testing enabled | 16:49 |
| Youbi_ | Ok, now I know ^^' | 16:49 |
| KotCzarny | also, while you are at flashing, install cssu-thumb | 16:50 |
| KotCzarny | and only that | 16:50 |
| Youbi_ | Ok, after flash, only cssu-thumb. | 16:50 |
| Youbi_ | Booting device into flash mode. Suitable USB device not found, waiting. USB device found found at bus 001, device address 007. | 16:52 |
| Youbi_ | “found found” | 16:52 |
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| Youbi_ | I always wonder, why did Nokia put a bootup video… | 16:56 |
| KotCzarny | because they can | 16:56 |
| KotCzarny | see the slimming_os link if you want to disable it | 16:57 |
| Youbi_ | Ok, thanks | 16:58 |
| Youbi_ | Ok, now, I only have extras, cssu-testing, cssu-testing-thumb in my repo list. | 17:04 |
| Sicelo900 | lol. | 17:08 |
| Sicelo900 | funny enough i've never bricked my n900 in all these years with always enabled sdk, devel repos. | 17:09 |
| Sicelo900 | for a full year i had this "setup" while USB ws broken. no ill effect | 17:11 |
| Sicelo900 | i'm not saying people should do it. i guess it's just beginners luck ;) | 17:12 |
| Youbi_ | wtf. Hildon-Application-Manager tells me to backup my phone with Nokia PC Suite before thumb update | 17:12 |
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| bencoh | Youbi_: "just in case" :) | 17:12 |
| bencoh | cssu says that as well iirc | 17:13 |
| KotCzarny | ignore | 17:13 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 17:13 |
| bencoh | oh and, do not use upgrade/dist-upgrade with apt on maemo | 17:13 |
| Youbi_ | I can’t ignore it… It stops the upgrade. | 17:14 |
| Sicelo900 | there was a workaround on wiki/tmo. try a reboot first | 17:16 |
| Sicelo900 | failing which check wiki .. forgot what you need to do | 17:17 |
| Youbi_ | Maybe should I install CSSU and then CSSU-thumb? | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | straight to cssu-thumb | 17:17 |
| KotCzarny | tho, i remember it had some dep troubles | 17:18 |
| KotCzarny | solvable by uninstalling 1 or 2 packages | 17:18 |
| KotCzarny | but, your device is freshly flashed, so no worries, you can try | 17:20 |
| Youbi_ | Ok, getting back home o/ | 17:26 |
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| princefakhan | has ham been replaced by an open source alternative in cssu? | 18:29 |
| Sicelo900 | no | 18:34 |
| bencoh | in -testing | 18:34 |
| princefakhan | ehm! I was just reading the backlog, I thought it has. | 18:35 |
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| princefakhan | <KotCzarny> yes, but from cssu | 18:36 |
| princefakhan | <KotCzarny> its improved greatly | 18:36 |
| bencoh | errr wait, we have HAM sources | 18:36 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 18:36 |
| bencoh | (?) | 18:36 |
| bencoh | yeah, we do | 18:38 |
| princefakhan | oh right! it was open source already. | 18:42 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | princefakhan: it's FOSS already but speed improvements have been made in latest version | 19:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~speedyHAM | 19:05 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb | 19:05 |
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| KotCzarny | swb, for newbies it doesnt say much, better to just tell that ham in cssu (any flavour) is just better than stock-ham or fapman | 19:24 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | meh, newbies should be on cssu-stable as far as I am concerned. | 19:25 |
| bencoh | I wonder why it's not in -stable | 19:28 |
| bencoh | especially considering stock HAM is barely usable with extras | 19:28 |
| KotCzarny | its not in -stable? | 19:31 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 19:31 |
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| bencoh | 16:01 < bencoh> it's in -testing, not in -stable. 18:34 < bencoh> in -testing | 19:36 |
| buZz | ehw, what is HAM? :P | 19:37 |
| Sicelo900 | will likely be in the next stabe | 19:37 |
| Sicelo900 | *stable | 19:37 |
| buZz | ahh | 19:37 |
| buZz | ty | 19:37 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | because there hasn't been a stable release since it was put in devel | 19:44 |
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| Youbi | I don’t know what I did, but now my n900 is not booting. After the NOKIA white boot screen, I get the 5 dots, endlessly. | 22:09 |
| Youbi | I removed the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10hildon_welcome file to avoid nokia hands. May it be the source of my problem? | 22:10 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 22:10 |
| KotCzarny | unless you did more than that | 22:10 |
| Youbi | I don’t remember doing anything else. | 22:10 |
| Youbi | Anything else related to boot* | 22:11 |
| KotCzarny | i got 5 dots syndrome by simply having error in ~/.profile | 22:11 |
| Youbi | Oh. I modified my ~/.profile | 22:11 |
| KotCzarny | so it might be anything, missing libs, wrong version etc | 22:11 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 22:11 |
| Youbi | That’s completely dumb -_- | 22:12 |
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| KotCzarny | a bit | 22:12 |
| KotCzarny | still, i prefer that kind of dumbness to failed booting and no way to flash without serial cable | 22:13 |
| Youbi | :D | 22:13 |
| Youbi | Flashing is the only solution? I can’t access /home/user when n900 is down? | 22:14 |
| KotCzarny | you can | 22:15 |
| KotCzarny | ~rescueos | 22:15 |
| infobot | rescueos is, like, http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ | 22:15 |
| KotCzarny | but read the documentation first | 22:15 |
| KotCzarny | in short, you can boot (not flash) using flasher | 22:15 |
| Youbi | I’m reading the documentation. It’s quite a good stuff | 22:17 |
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| Youbi | I’m using NetBSD on my laptop, so I’ll try to build the fiasco flasher and use rescueOS to edit ~/.profile | 22:36 |
| KotCzarny | erm, check 0xFFFF | 22:37 |
| KotCzarny | ~0xFFFF | 22:37 |
| infobot | [0xffff] https://github.com/pali/0xFFFF, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87996 | 22:37 |
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| KotCzarny | its opensource flasher replacement | 22:37 |
| KotCzarny | dont know if it will work on netbsd | 22:37 |
| Youbi | Yep, I’m trying to build it. | 22:37 |
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| Youbi | The only dep is http://libusb.info/ which seems cross platform. So I have good hopes. | 22:39 |
| Youbi | \\o// | 22:41 |
| Youbi | I’m so happy | 22:41 |
| Youbi | In the config.mk of 0xFFFF | 22:42 |
| Youbi | # NetBSD stuff | 22:42 |
| Youbi | #CPPFLAGS += -I/usr/pkg/include | 22:42 |
| Youbi | #LDFLAGS += -L/usr/pkg/lib -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib | 22:42 |
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| Pali | yes 0xFFFF is clean C99 code with just libusb0 dependency | 22:49 |
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| arteta | hi, how to classify apps when we hit twice the windows logo on the top left of the screen pls (like when we use the app manager)? after flashing my n900 « all » the apps are in one "page" | 22:54 |
| KotCzarny | um, you probably had some classifier app installed | 22:55 |
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| KotCzarny | by default there are no categories | 22:55 |
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| Youbi | Well. It seems that it doesn’t work very well. | 22:58 |
| arteta | ok, thx, maybe it was catorise | 22:58 |
| Youbi | I sucessfully built 0xFFFF on my NetBSD laptop. When I run it, as root, it waits for my device to be plugged in. So I remove battery and plug it, then put the battery back in my n900. Then my n900 is detected, but the result is quite strange, and then, my computer reboot… | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 23:00 |
| KotCzarny | ask pali, i think he maintains it (or is even the author) | 23:00 |
| Sicelo | computer reboots? heh | 23:01 |
| Pali | do not know how netbsd works... but there is not reboot... | 23:02 |
| KotCzarny | could be some usb woe? | 23:05 |
| Youbi | When I run 0xFFFF -I | 23:05 |
| Youbi | https://dpaste.de/4Xkn/raw | 23:05 |
| Youbi | (as root) | 23:05 |
| Pali | Youbi: Two reasons: 1) your system has slow usb enumeration or 2) N900 is in very bad state | 23:06 |
| Youbi | :/ | 23:06 |
| Pali | try to press U key on n900 | 23:06 |
| Youbi | When booting it unplugged? | 23:06 |
| Pali | press key, plug cable and hold it when 0xFFFF identify | 23:07 |
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| Youbi | Same result, But the led on the n900 stays yellow | 23:10 |
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| Youbi | Ok, without the -l (load to ram) option, 0xFFFF (with -m option for image and kernel, and -b 'rootdelay root=/dev/ram0') just print the same message as 0xFFFF -I. And then, I get my prompt back | 23:39 |
| Youbi | And the n900 boot, but I get the 5 dots. | 23:40 |
| bencoh | have you fixed your .profile? | 23:44 |
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