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| stryngs | So | 01:19 |
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| stryngs | ssl warnings | 01:20 |
| stryngs | for instance, git | 01:21 |
| stryngs | how on the n900, do i tell git what certs to use? | 01:21 |
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| bencoh | stryngs: http://git-scm.com/docs/git-config look for http/ssl | 01:25 |
| stryngs | bencoh: Let me try to rephrase. On the n900, I can avoid ssl via: GIT_SSL_NO_VERIFY=true | 01:28 |
| stryngs | On my laptop, this is not needed | 01:28 |
| stryngs | My laptop git knows where certs are on my laptop | 01:28 |
| stryngs | Where and how do i install those certs to maemo? | 01:28 |
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| myk42 | Hi, i am considering buying a n900 and just wondered the state of maemo O/S appwise? I know the n900 is unsuported, but i love the design, and would love to run debian, or even nitdroid if that is still available. Looking at the forums on maemo.org, there still seems alot of people involved. | 01:43 |
| stryngs | it's popular myk42 | 01:43 |
| stryngs | Just gotta figure out what you want to do with it | 01:43 |
| stryngs | Me? I hack, so i run my own custom maemo os | 01:43 |
| stryngs | others do CSSU | 01:43 |
| stryngs | etc.. | 01:43 |
| myk42 | basically is the browser, or choice of browsers still up to speed with the web? I mean i would be running facebook and stuff like, plus booking stuff online and shopping etc... plus gmail and youtube. The usual suspects maybe? | 01:46 |
| stryngs | haha | 01:46 |
| stryngs | No | 01:46 |
| myk42 | :) | 01:46 |
| myk42 | :( | 01:46 |
| myk42 | really? | 01:46 |
| stryngs | Not in my opinion | 01:47 |
| stryngs | but i dont do many gui things with my n900 | 01:47 |
| stryngs | i use it for wifi pentesting and such | 01:47 |
| stryngs | mostly command line | 01:47 |
| myk42 | i see! Yes this is apealling - having a proper linux-based o/s in your pocket, but i initially, need a smartphone for the usual suspects -to compete with an entry level android phone, which i am considering ( i can get an n900 - my dream phone (still) fro the same price as a new entry level android) | 01:50 |
| stryngs | u can get an n900 for around 40 eur | 01:51 |
| myk42 | I have one of the last symbian phones made, which is a great phone, but is starting to give me trouble. AN n900 would be a VAST improvement i expect. | 01:53 |
| ZetaR | myk42: There is also new development of Maemo in preparation for the release of the Neo900. | 02:06 |
| ZetaR | I got my N900 for Christmas last year, and I think its great. It hasn't really felt outdated because underneath the hood it is a standard Linux system and so you can port new packages quite easily. | 02:09 |
| myk42 | I'm glad to hear of this. The neo will upgrade the n900 i read, so maemo will run on these upgraded n900s? | 02:09 |
| ZetaR | The Neo900 is a new phone, which reuses the case of the N900. | 02:09 |
| ZetaR | http://neo900.org/ | 02:10 |
| ZetaR | The Neo900 project just deals with hardware, but there is a separate group working on Maemo for the Neo900. | 02:11 |
| myk42 | yes i read of the neo900 and thought it a good idea. How far has the development of a maemo release for the neo900 got, andd will it be a standard maemo release or one specifically for the neo900? | 02:11 |
| ZetaR | Sorry, I don't really know the answer to those questions. I have been hanging out mainly with the Neo900 hardware devs. I suspect that most of the work will also apply to the N900 though. | 02:12 |
| myk42 | I am considering getting an n900 (instead of an entry level android phone) do the maemo apps for facebook, and the browser(s), and youtube and such work at well still? | 02:14 |
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| ZetaR | I haven't really used Facebook/Youtube on my N900 so I am not sure, but there are a lot of tools for dealing with Youtube in the extras/testing/devel repositories. IDK about Facebook, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. There are also multiple browsers in the repositories that I have been looking at. | 02:17 |
| ZetaR | Maybe someone else here would know more about that. | 02:18 |
| myk42 | are the browsers up to speed still with the current web? | 02:18 |
| * Oksana goes to look up which browsers are available on Maemo 5.... | 02:19 | |
| ZetaR | AFAIK the default browser has not had recent updates because of proprietary modules. I have not yet tested the other browsers available. | 02:19 |
| myk42 | also gps/openstreetmap is about the ony other thing i need atm | 02:19 |
| ZetaR | There are a lot of applications for that. Not sure what is standard. | 02:20 |
| bencoh | there are quite a few (good) map applications, so I'm pretty sure you'll find one for you | 02:20 |
| myk42 | that sounds good | 02:20 |
| ZetaR | Oksana: macuco2, leechcraft, links-hacked, lynx, heliummobilebrowser, fennec, dillo, and dooble. I may have missed a few. | 02:20 |
| myk42 | that and a text editor plus a 'real' keyboard, about wraps it up :) | 02:21 |
| bencoh | regarding web browsing, javascripted web42.0 is just way too bloated even for top-the-shelf desktop computers, so ... | 02:21 |
| bencoh | what would you expect ? it's slow on n900 | 02:21 |
| bencoh | where, "top-the-shelf", what the fuck ? thx, brain :D | 02:22 |
| myk42 | lol | 02:22 |
| ZetaR | Heh, I agree with that. I usually just ignore pages that don't load without JS nowadays. | 02:22 |
| bencoh | anyway, you get the idea | 02:22 |
| myk42 | yeah | 02:22 |
| ZetaR | I mean, on my main computer, not just on the N900. | 02:23 |
| bencoh | same here | 02:23 |
| bencoh | I tell noscript to allow if I really care, but I often just "meh, close" | 02:23 |
| ZetaR | When you start using noscript and requestpolicy, it is really apparent how bloated and tangled most websites are. | 02:24 |
| bencoh | unfortunately noscript doesn't work properly on microb | 02:25 |
| myk42 | no major problems with a site like facebook or say bbc, compared to average desktop? | 02:25 |
| bencoh | (even if you do manage to make it run in microb, it's dead slow) | 02:25 |
| myk42 | i didn't m4an that comparisson literally | 02:25 |
| bencoh | I think there is a fb app (or there used to be), but I'm not sure | 02:26 |
| myk42 | i forget the n900 is a phone lol ( and not a new one) kudos to the designers | 02:26 |
| bencoh | I dont have any fb account, so ... | 02:26 |
| myk42 | bencoh: you are truely enlightened! | 02:27 |
| bencoh | probably not the only one here :) | 02:28 |
| Oksana | QML Browser (webkit-based): http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93508 | What is links-hacked? lynx does not support JS, right? Fennec-XUL-edition is a tad slow | FasterFox for MicroB: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72992 | Update MicroB engine (going slowly): http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94107 | Alopex (gecko-based): http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89506 | 02:28 |
| myk42 | Ohh thanks! :P | 02:29 |
| Oksana | I'm personally using MicroB (a tad broken by my attempts at manual optification), Fennec-XUL (a tad slow), and links (does not support https yet) | 02:31 |
| Oksana | Ooh, anybody compared links vs elinks vs links-hacked ? | 02:32 |
| bencoh | hmm, I thought we didnt have elinks | 02:33 |
| bencoh | well, we dont. it's in diablo, not fremantle :) | 02:33 |
| bencoh | I'll have to try and build/upload it some day | 02:34 |
| Oksana | Okay, I used to have GoldenDict installed... From Diablo repository if I remember correctly | 02:34 |
| bencoh | myk42: does m.facebook.com suit your needs ? | 02:34 |
| Oksana | Though, I may be confused about GoldenDict, since it's apparently available for Fremantle, too | 02:35 |
| bencoh | myk42: for youtube we have cutetube2 :) | 02:36 |
| myk42 | m.facebook looks good on my eeepc :D | 02:36 |
| bencoh | hahaha | 02:36 |
| bencoh | I suspect it would look as good on n900 | 02:37 |
| myk42 | what about packages like dictd and dict client? I use these when writing with editor in xterm (all of which i can do on n900 with proper keyboard? ) | 02:38 |
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| myk42 | cool might start using m.facebook on desktop tbh, :) | 02:39 |
| myk42 | i prefer the dict server over any other dictionary, as i can look up many dictionary files on my local system on the command line. | 02:40 |
| Oksana | I think that dictd and such are available http://maemo.org/packages/ | webkit-based tear: http://maemo.org/packages/view/tear/ | 02:40 |
| Oksana | I use MStarDict, with many local files stored on phone, yes. | 02:41 |
| Oksana | Here you go: http://maemo.org/packages/view/dictd/ | 02:41 |
| ZetaR | For my list of dictionaries I have: mstardict, qstardict, estardict, and dyct. | 02:42 |
| ZetaR | I have been going through extras-devel letter by letter, but I haven't finished yet. | 02:43 |
| myk42 | Cool ! | 02:44 |
| bencoh | :-) | 02:46 |
| bencoh | we also have dooble but I've never tried it yet | 02:47 |
| bencoh | (because of the too many deps on -devel) | 02:47 |
| bencoh | (iirc) | 02:47 |
| bencoh | http://maemo.org/packages/view/dooble/ | 02:48 |
| * Oksana prefers gecko, but that's just personal taste | 02:48 | |
| bencoh | I prefere microb on n900 as well | 02:50 |
| myk42 | wow looking at the microb site, it seems good. I have greta problems with a certain site that uses AJAX technology. | 02:54 |
| myk42 | ... on my current phone with opera mini browser | 02:56 |
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| Oksana | Remember my troubles with MicroB libraries? Aka elusively broken optification? Well, now I see similar problem with different software, on a Linux workstation. Fortunately, it's not problem created by me, or unique to my user ;-) So I can bug local administrator "why does it not work?" | 07:37 |
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| td512 | so. I've never been to maemo.org, have a static IP, and yet find myself being banned with this message "Sorry, it seems that you are using an IP address or a proxy that is listed in the forum anti spam blacklist. | 08:02 |
| td512 | Feel free to contact our staff on irc freenode #maemo channel." | 08:02 |
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| td512 | any help? | 08:02 |
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| newbueAlert | Hey hi , in com.nokia.phone.SMS, what is the argument for reading sms in method "sms_read"?? | 08:16 |
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| newbueAlert | and another doubt, to replace dbus, do i just need to replace libdbus.so file in required directory ?? | 08:21 |
| KotCzarny | td512: 1/ check your ip in google for red flags (spam and crack databases), 2/ if nothing suspicius found report your ip here and ask again | 08:22 |
| td512 | KotCzarny: ok | 08:23 |
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| td512 | KotCzarny: nothing found | 08:26 |
| td512 | I'm clean :/ | 08:26 |
| KotCzarny | ip? | 08:26 |
| td512 | can I PM you it? | 08:27 |
| td512 | I really don't want it getting out. it's static | 08:28 |
| KotCzarny | xes is the site admin | 08:28 |
| td512 | is he here? | 08:28 |
| KotCzarny | sometimes | 08:29 |
| KotCzarny | current nick is xes_ i think | 08:29 |
| td512 | ok. | 08:29 |
| KotCzarny | but if you get blocked, your ip IS in some spam db | 08:29 |
| KotCzarny | or ip range | 08:29 |
| td512 | huh. | 08:30 |
| td512 | I'm guessing it would be vodaNZ's IP range then :/ | 08:30 |
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| bencoh | newbueAlert: why do you want to replace dbus ? | 09:04 |
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| newbueAlert | bencoh: Just asking? If it is, it maybe possible to print agument of "sms_read" given any process calls this method over dbus ?? | 09:07 |
| bencoh | I'm pretty sure there are are other ways of printing eveyrything going through dbus :) | 09:09 |
| bencoh | like some dbus-monitor command | 09:09 |
| newbueAlert | printing which method is being called ??? | 09:09 |
| newbueAlert | bencoh: i think thats for signals ??? | 09:10 |
| bencoh | which method ? | 09:10 |
| bencoh | yeah that's for signals, why would you want to know which method ? | 09:10 |
| newbueAlert | bencoh: Process A calling a method exposed by process B over dbus. | 09:10 |
| newbueAlert | bencoh: Just to get details about it. http://www.cncmods.net/files/dbus/sms.xml | 09:12 |
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| KotCzarny | td512: http://www.abuseipdb.com/report-history/203.109.192.106 | 09:42 |
| KotCzarny | http://liveipmap.com/203.109.192.106 | 09:43 |
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| KotCzarny | td512: http://www.abuseipdb.com/report-history/203.109.192.106 http://liveipmap.com/203.109.192.106 | 09:45 |
| td512 | lolwat? | 09:45 |
| KotCzarny | - td512 was ~admin@106.192.109.203.static.cust.vf.net.nz (realname) | 09:45 |
| td512 | KotCzarny: how?!?! | 09:53 |
| KotCzarny | you are new to the internet, are you? | 09:53 |
| td512 | not really | 09:54 |
| td512 | but I only belong to superuser | 09:54 |
| td512 | and that's not a forum | 09:54 |
| td512 | Anon Apr 14, 2015 no comment Hacking | 09:54 |
| td512 | apr 14 2015... | 09:54 |
| td512 | wtf | 09:54 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, your google skills are low | 09:54 |
| td512 | I don't use google | 09:55 |
| td512 | I use BING | 09:55 |
| KotCzarny | i see your problem now | 09:55 |
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| td0512 | ugh | 09:56 |
| td0512 | sec | 09:56 |
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| td512 | there | 09:56 |
| * Oksana uses DuckDuckGo: http://ddg.gg | 09:58 | |
| td512 | my parents still think facebook is a search engine | 09:58 |
| td512 | xD | 09:58 |
| * Oksana does not use Facebook... Anyway, obfuscation by reversing positions of numbers is funny. Like rot13 | 09:59 | |
| KotCzarny | oksana: its not obfuscation but a way domain names were designed, then isp adopted to it | 10:00 |
| KotCzarny | when you create a dns zone, you add least weight elements at the beginning | 10:00 |
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| * stryngs is building xrdp for the n900 | 18:19 | |
| stryngs | =) | 18:19 |
| stryngs | Curious to see how it works | 18:19 |
| stryngs | Perhaps we can do away with vnc | 18:19 |
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| stryngs | Pali, do you know the command line string to find the temperature? | 18:22 |
| Sicelo | of battery? | 18:24 |
| stryngs | whatever temp shows up in conky Sicelo | 18:25 |
| stryngs | or from qcpu | 18:25 |
| * Sicelo doesn't use conky | 18:26 | |
| stryngs | Ok | 18:26 |
| stryngs | but some temp | 18:26 |
| stryngs | Do u know where to begin looking Sicelo ? | 18:26 |
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| Luke-Jr | stryngs: xrdp is a joke :/ | 18:26 |
| Luke-Jr | Pali: http://0bin.net/paste/zHYnfGRz0Rv0DdKz#HsMN5ppfddyTwsRD1IdMnL1OMbmdj-5aRED/ekYCYWL | 18:26 |
| stryngs | I'm doing some weird stuff and I want to ensure I don't cook my box | 18:26 |
| Luke-Jr | stryngs: xrdp as a server just wraps VNC | 18:26 |
| stryngs | Right | 18:26 |
| stryngs | But can i run it without leaving the screen on? | 18:26 |
| stryngs | That's what i care about | 18:26 |
| Luke-Jr | eh? | 18:27 |
| stryngs | with vnc, the screen must be on | 18:27 |
| stryngs | If screen dims out, vnc dies | 18:27 |
| Luke-Jr | must it? | 18:27 |
| stryngs | yes | 18:27 |
| Luke-Jr | never noticed.. | 18:27 |
| stryngs | But yeah, does anyone know of the file that shows battery life? | 18:27 |
| stryngs | er | 18:27 |
| stryngs | temp | 18:27 |
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| Pali | stryngs: /sys/class/hwmon or /sys/class/thermal or /sys/class/power_supply | 18:38 |
| Pali | Luke-Jr: this is not null pointer dereference, but some memory corruption | 18:39 |
| Pali | I think that now only valgrind could help... | 18:39 |
| Luke-Jr | :| | 18:39 |
| stryngs | thank u pali! | 18:41 |
| stryngs | As always | 18:41 |
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| Luke-Jr | hm, x11vnc fails on Maemo? :\ | 18:45 |
| Luke-Jr | https://bpaste.net/show/e33718fa1040 | 18:45 |
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| Luke-Jr | >>> Emerging (1 of 62) app-arch/bzip2-1.0.6-r6::gentoo | 19:03 |
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| stryngs | Luke-Jr: You're correct, xrdp sucks and was pointless =) | 19:20 |
| stryngs | ls | 19:20 |
| Luke-Jr | :p | 19:24 |
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| Alphadog | I have an issue with my battery measurement | 19:50 |
| Alphadog | After two hours of charging, battery indicator shows about 120mAh | 19:51 |
| Alphadog | Disconnecting the charger makes it over 1000 in seconds | 19:52 |
| Alphadog | :) | 19:52 |
| Alphadog | Tested it with two different batteries | 19:53 |
| Alphadog | One is polarcell | 19:53 |
| Alphadog | The other is some unknown chinese battery for 5800 xm | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | Alphadog: indicator is not updated while the phone is on charger | 19:57 |
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| stryngs | Anyone have thoughts on this? http://termbin.com/zm4d | 20:00 |
| stryngs | I've tried a billion diff sd cards =( | 20:00 |
| Alphadog | I supposed it was the reason | 20:02 |
| Alphadog | But wasnt sure | 20:02 |
| Alphadog | My phone is ok in the bq part | 20:03 |
| Alphadog | Thanks stryngs | 20:03 |
| stryngs | Heh, how did i help u? | 20:07 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: KotCzarny: All is now well on the scrobbling front :) I purged the installation on my N900, it seemed if mafw-lastfm was running, my cache would go funny. Some config file must have been borked. | 20:45 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Next on the agenda is working out why, "My Availability" on IM only works on data and not wifi. | 21:18 |
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| Luke-Jr | KMail very slow in valgrind :< | 22:55 |
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