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| KotCzarny | totalizator, maybe the company behind the telegram software IS a scam? | 00:02 |
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| KotCzarny | android app also has negative comments | 00:02 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | totalizator: Use the report button on the post in question? | 00:13 |
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| M4rtinK | server based centralized IM & closed source server == FAIL :) | 00:45 |
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| antranigv | it's funny cz most of them use XMPP, while anyone can just set their personal server and use OTR (: | 01:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: hi | 01:09 |
| KotCzarny | antranigv: but that requires knowledge | 01:10 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 01:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have a few issues with modRana I wanted to run by you. | 01:10 |
| antranigv | KotCzarny: I totaly agree, personally, I don't agree for "everyone should use a computer" it's better to know and use, than to not know and use shit :P | 01:16 |
| KotCzarny | antranigv: i wrote me an audio player because there was none that can suit my specific needs, and guess what, almost everyone who tried it, liked it | 01:22 |
| KotCzarny | so either current player dogma suck, or im a genius | 01:22 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:22 |
| KotCzarny | (geek genius) | 01:22 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: sure :) | 01:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: Well I started a batch download and then midway through had to leave home. Even with no internet the download continued counting tiles until complete. No errors where shown but it clearly didn't download the tiles while offline. | 01:26 |
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| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: what update mode was it in ? | 01:29 |
| M4rtinK | but even then, it should have reported errors in any mode | 01:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: Well it's in OFF now but I can't remember if I have changed it since. | 01:30 |
| M4rtinK | it might go without errors if you have all the tiles already | 01:31 |
| M4rtinK | but that would finish very quickly | 01:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also I am definitely not getting updated tiles in any update mode. | 01:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | So for example... | 01:32 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I have only really downloaded ZL15 tiles, these are from 6 months ago and I can't seem to update them. However I have up to date ZL16 and 17 since my batch DL yesterday. | 01:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I asked it to batch download ZL12-17 by 20km | 01:35 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: yeah, I tried what it does when downloading without Internet connectivity | 01:37 |
| M4rtinK | and it indeed seems broken | 01:37 |
| M4rtinK | in the sense that errors are not forwarded | 01:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ok | 01:37 |
| M4rtinK | the log is full of errors | 01:37 |
| M4rtinK | could be something similar for the update | 01:38 |
| M4rtinK | I'll take a look once I get some free time :) | 01:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | so threads are started and completed but not shown that the tiles aren't being received | 01:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | thx | 01:38 |
| merlin1991 | totalizator: I have no powers over tmo, you'll need a tmo mod | 01:38 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 01:38 |
| M4rtinK | I did quite a lot of changes in batch tile download a few months ago | 01:39 |
| M4rtinK | could be that it caused this regression | 01:39 |
| M4rtinK | there is a possible workaround until this is fixed | 01:39 |
| M4rtinK | you can move the tile folder somewhere | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | then do the batch download | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | move the new tiles somewhere | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | and move the old ones back | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | and then overwrite them by the new ones | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | that should effectively update all old tiles in the download area for the given layer :) | 01:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sqlite? | 01:41 |
| * sixwheeledbeast yawns. | 01:49 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | Any thanks for looking into it. gonna catch some z's | 01:50 |
| M4rtinK | that workaround works for files | 01:56 |
| M4rtinK | won't be that easy for sqlite tile storage unfortunately | 01:57 |
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| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: maybe with the import script: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SQLiteTilesImportPerlScriptEN | 01:57 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: and also good night :) | 01:57 |
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| Oksana | What is soft poweroff? The one in powerkey-menu? | 02:57 |
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| pentanol | Oksana hi, did you man soft-reset or power-off? | 04:06 |
| pentanol | my n900 go sleep after I no touching it 30 sec. | 04:07 |
| Oksana | I meant the "Soft poweroff" which can be found in powerkey menu. It has strange effects (like, LED), but no visible purpose? | 04:08 |
| Oksana | Maybe, it's called soft-reset, I do not know. | 04:09 |
| Oksana | It's not equal to shutdown, obviously. | 04:09 |
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| pentanol | Oksana what device you has? | 04:13 |
| Oksana | N900 | 04:13 |
| pentanol | on my n900 nokia sleeps automatically is slider is closed and I not touching the screen. | 04:14 |
| pentanol | so seems that soft poweroff | 04:14 |
| Oksana | Have you seen the powerkey-menu with "Reboot", "Switch off", "Offline mode"/"Normal mode", "General"/"Silent" and so on? | 04:16 |
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| pentanol | my nokia with Russian interface, I have only Shutdown,Lock,Silent,Phone,Block-screen and Usual mode. | 04:21 |
| pentanol | that menu I see after I touch power button on the phone once. | 04:22 |
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| Oksana | Yes, that menu. Somehow, you do not have soft-poweroff? | 05:39 |
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| Oksana | Can you pastebin somewhere contents of /etc/systemui/systemui.xml ? | 05:39 |
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| pentanol | Oksana maybe I will pastebining this file. Could you say how switch ru to en keyboard. I typed arrow+ctrl and that switch the keyboard layout for the one charakter I typed. How make it type on english more then one charakter? | 07:14 |
| pentanol | I'm esterday purchising this phone:) | 07:15 |
| pentanol | yesterday* | 07:15 |
| Oksana | Hardware keyboard - not sure myself. Virtual keyboard - in the same place as clipboard, lower left corner? | 07:25 |
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| pentanol | no, I use hardware keyboard, I don't know how open software | 08:02 |
| kerio | pentanol: i think russian has a way to change between keyboard layouts on the fly | 08:08 |
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| kerio | and i believe it's ctrl+space | 08:08 |
| Oksana | Yes, Ctrl+Space . Though the logic may be confusing... https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2501 http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/how_to_switch_hardware_keyboard_language/ | 08:10 |
| povbot | Bug 2501: Hardware keyboard doesn't switch Input language when pressing Ctrl+Space | 08:10 |
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| kerio | ctrl+space to switch layouts only works for the russian hw keyboard layout, yeah :( | 08:11 |
| Oksana | Does it work for Greek? | 08:31 |
| kerio | there's no work in greece :> | 08:32 |
| pentanol | Oksana here http://pastebin.ca/2974766 | 08:32 |
| Oksana | kerio: I mean Greek kw keyboard layout. By the way, is it hildon_im_keyboard_monitor.so responsible for Ctrl+Space switching, what package is it in, and was it reverse-engineered or not? | 08:33 |
| kerio | Oksana: that was a joke | 08:35 |
| Oksana | pentanol: Lines 68-to-71. Copy them to not-commented-out part of systemui.xml, like, line 62. Then, restart systemui. | 08:36 |
| Oksana | /usr/sbin/dsmetool -k /usr/bin/systemui | 08:36 |
| Oksana | sleep 1 | 08:36 |
| Oksana | /usr/sbin/dsmetool -n -l -t /usr/bin/systemui | 08:36 |
| Oksana | Then, in the menu, there will be one button more. | 08:37 |
| Oksana | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=55734 | 08:37 |
| Oksana | Editing instructions for the systemui.xml ^ | 08:37 |
| Oksana | kerio: I know ;-) | 08:37 |
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| pentanol | what tool I should use for making .deb packets for maemo? looks like it a bit different with usual debian dpkg? | 09:03 |
| Oksana | Not sure. People say that scratchbox is the compile environment for N900 | 09:05 |
| Oksana | http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging | 09:05 |
| Oksana | http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging/Guidelines | 09:05 |
| Oksana | http://wiki.maemo.org/Port_an_existing_Debian_package | 09:05 |
| Oksana | pentanol: ^ ^ ^ | 09:06 |
| kerio | it's basically old-as-fuck debian | 09:06 |
| kerio | like etch or smth | 09:06 |
| kerio | possibly even earlier | 09:06 |
| Oksana | Also, http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel which uses Auto-builder to compile from source into binary and add to repository http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Infrastructure/Autobuilder | 09:09 |
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| Oksana | If you just register at https://garage.maemo.org and request an invitation to upload to Extras, https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/ you will be able to upload a package to Extras-devel repository, from which it will be promoted by testing users to Extras-Testing and Extras | 09:12 |
| pentanol | thanks all, g'luck | 09:27 |
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| Sicelo | ceene: i'll take the liberty to pm you a link to my log (Yappari status message not updating) | 10:02 |
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| ceene | thank you, Sicelo ! | 11:37 |
| ceene | i'll be looking at it this weekend | 11:38 |
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