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KotCzarnyhrm, no git for diablo?10:50
KotCzarnynvm, found it10:51
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KotCzarnyhrm, it's too old11:01
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konghi, is yappari messanger supported by you/us?13:11
kongif so, how can i view the source code, should i post that in dev channel? i found some features i dont like.13:12
KotCzarnywhere is dev channel?13:12
kong#maemo-devel13:12
KotCzarnylol13:13
kongwhen i view dev channel logs there are only join and exit messages :D13:13
KotCzarnylooks a bit abandoned13:13
KotCzarnyassume this one is maemo dev13:14
KotCzarnysame people i think13:14
bencoh:)13:14
kongyea but they join and leave :D13:14
bencohkong: https://github.com/agamez/yappari iirc ... but read the TMO thread :)13:15
kongTMO thread?13:15
bencohtalk.maemo.org13:15
KotCzarnydrat. my alzheimer is kicking in. had to work on some feature today, but forgot what it was13:16
kongis that yellow message-notification popup a QMessageBox or just an other window?13:30
antranigv~log13:55
infobotofficial maemo logs are at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog13:55
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kongi will find out14:01
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zGrrmoin :)17:14
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KotCzarnyoink17:19
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melissa_Is it safe to do dd if=/dev/null of=~/MyDocs on a Nokia N900?17:46
KotCzarnyyou cant of to dir17:46
KotCzarnyit must be a file17:46
KotCzarnyalso, you have to use /dev/zero, not /dev/null17:46
KotCzarnywhat are you trying to achieve?17:46
melissa_ok of=/dev/mmcb1k0p1 then17:47
melissa_I need to clear the contents but I've forgotten the PIN code17:47
KotCzarnythere was a thread about getting pin from the dump17:47
melissa_And I haven't succeeded in decrypting the key17:48
melissa_I tried john the ripper on two different machines but it failed17:48
melissa_Anyway, dd would be a lot faster. Is there any reason why it'd be a bad idea?17:49
KotCzarnywhat does mount|grep mmcblk0p1 say?17:49
KotCzarny(my n900 is too far away for my lazy a** to get up)17:49
melissa_on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat etc. etc.17:49
KotCzarnyhmm17:50
KotCzarnyand you are sure lock code is in mydocs?17:50
KotCzarnyi would bet it's in /home/user17:50
melissa_I don't know where it is. I got it through grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd117:51
KotCzarnymtd1 != mmcblk017:51
melissa_grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1 | tail -117:51
KotCzarnymtd is internal flash17:51
melissa_o17:51
KotCzarnymmcblk is internal sd card17:51
KotCzarnyso as i said, erasing mmcblk0p1 wouldn't reset it17:52
melissa_I don't really need the PIN code anymore, actually17:52
melissa_I just want to erase my stuff17:52
KotCzarnybtw. can you ssh onto device i guee?17:53
KotCzarny*guess17:53
melissa_I can17:53
KotCzarnydbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.system_ui /com/nokia/system_ui/request com.nokia.system_ui.request.devlock_close string:"com.nokia.mce" string:"/com/nokia/mce/request" string:"com.nokia.mce.request" string:"devlock_callback" uint32:'0'17:53
KotCzarnymaybe this one can help?17:53
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KotCzarnyat least to get to desktop17:54
KotCzarnyrecoverlock is a small shell script to automate the recovery of the N900 lock code17:54
KotCzarnyand this one17:54
melissa_Again, I don't need the pin code. I just need a quick way to clear the device before selling it, and I'm wondering if there's any objection to deleting the contents of ~/MyDocs17:55
KotCzarnyreflash then17:55
KotCzarnyas simple as that17:55
KotCzarnythen you would dd </dev/zero >/home/user/MyDocs/zerofile bs=4k; sync; rm /home/user/MyDocs/zerofile17:55
KotCzarny /dev/mmcblk0p2         2064208   1069692    889660  55% /home17:57
KotCzarnyyour stuff is also there17:57
KotCzarnyweb passwords etc17:57
KotCzarnyssh keys (if you created any)17:58
KotCzarnyreflash first anyway17:58
bencohI think the pin code is stored in CAL (not sure about that)17:58
bencohand ... yeah I'd reflash as well17:59
bencohunless (s)he is a maemo community member as well and you want to send the device with all your installed apps :)18:00
KotCzarnyand passwords18:00
bencohreflashing wont clear the pin in CAL iirc (again, not sure)18:00
KotCzarnyecho root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): > /home/user/MyDocs/phone_lock_hash18:01
KotCzarnyit's somewhere on mtd118:01
melissa_Meh I'm too lazy to reflash18:01
KotCzarnyrm -rf then18:02
bencohmelissa_: how comes you're selling btw ? I thought you wanted to keep it (?)18:02
KotCzarnyerasing would require umount and mkfs18:02
melissa_bencoh, you remember me? I don't even come here often18:02
melissa_The battery isn't what it was, plus the vibration mechanism broke18:03
KotCzarnyhe he18:03
melissa_I really need the vibration feature so I'm buying a new phone18:03
bencohmelissa_: just the fact that you pop with a question and disappear from time to time, actually :)18:03
KotCzarnyhow come it broke?18:03
melissa_It might even be another n900 but I'm going to try an Xperia Mini Pro first18:03
melissa_:)18:04
KotCzarnyalso, can you do: echo root:$(grep -A 13 lock_code /dev/mtd1|tail -1): > /home/user/MyDocs/phone_lock_hash18:04
KotCzarnythen paste the hash, wanna see how long would it take for john to decode it18:04
melissa_dd command, commence18:05
melissa_hm18:07
melissa_My phone doesn't turn on anymore18:07
KotCzarnytold you18:07
melissa_Is it a brick now?18:07
KotCzarnynope18:07
bencohbtw : https://wiki.maemo.org/Resetting_the_device_to_factory_defaults18:07
melissa_KotCzarny, it broke because I programmed it to vibrate every 15 minutes18:07
KotCzarnybut you should reflash now probably18:07
melissa_Looks like there's no way around it...18:08
bencohhm, why would you do that ?18:08
KotCzarnybencoh, maybe lucid dreaming18:08
melissa_Nah, mindfulness18:08
KotCzarnybut it works better with audio clues18:08
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melissa_In Go games I get way too caught up in a local battle, so whenever I felt it vibrating, I'd take a moment and look at the board at large18:09
melissa_To see where the important moves are18:09
bencohooh, okay18:09
melissa_Great reason isn't it?18:09
KotCzarnygood enough i guess18:10
KotCzarnystill, audio clues would work too18:10
bencohbut ... do you play so much ? I mean ... I wouldnt expect vibration mechanism to break because of intensive sms/whatsapp use (for instance) :]18:10
melissa_Yeah I'm having it play an audio file but it usually isn't loud enough for in a cafe18:11
melissa_bencoh, I kept it on 24/718:11
KotCzarnyyou can also light a led light on a phone18:11
bencoherr, okay18:11
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melissa_My understanding was that a vibration mechanism doesn't break that easily so I never bothered to turn it off18:12
bencohto be honest I still find it "strange" that it broke18:13
bencoh(considering that a phone is meant to receive phone/messages and vibrate often)18:13
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KotCzarnyhmm18:16
melissa_Does it matter whether I use the UK firmware image or the regular one?18:16
melissa_I don't know which one I need18:16
KotCzarnyi'm seeing n900 for ~35eur18:16
KotCzarnywow18:17
melissa_Yeah18:17
melissa_This guy is offering me 80 GBP for mine18:17
melissa_Can you guys believe that?18:17
KotCzarnyweird18:17
bencoha bit expensive considering it's defective18:17
melissa_It has a simple explanation: I'm selling it on Amazon18:17
melissa_People offer a lot of moneys for your stuff there18:18
bencohKotCzarny: is that a final price ?18:18
KotCzarnyas for firmware version, what charger you have?18:18
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KotCzarnybancoh: final18:18
KotCzarny*bencoh18:18
melissa_The UK firmware images have ARM in the name. I need to avoid that, right?18:18
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bencohKotCzarny: that's cheap18:19
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KotCzarnybencoh: yeah, it's sold by pawn shop18:19
KotCzarnycould be stolen or something18:19
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bencohor broken18:20
KotCzarnybut i see the prices aren't higher than 40eur in other listings18:20
KotCzarnynah, it's described as 100% functional18:20
KotCzarnyif there is any damage, it's not apparent18:21
melissa_I see them for that price regularly, in fact18:23
melissa_I bought mine for 40 euros, it was in good condition18:24
KotCzarnyi got mine from a friend18:24
KotCzarnybrand new18:25
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KotCzarnyunless technology changes, i'm going to use it18:25
KotCzarnyit has some unique features (easy app developing, fm transmitter, keyboard)18:26
KotCzarnyand resistive screen18:26
KotCzarnywhich is nice during winter18:26
KotCzarnyand now i got around to write audio player + network remote that can let me use it as audio station controllable remotely, or as a remote to my pc connected to hifi18:28
KotCzarnybencoh: do you know if n900 handles sdxc cards?18:28
KotCzarnyor i need some kernel patches18:29
bencohI think I had it working with a sdxc (?)18:29
KotCzarnywould be swell, 128gb cards are getting relatively cheap18:29
bencohhmm no, it was sdhc18:30
bencohso I dunno18:30
bencohmelissa_: where did you buy it ?18:30
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KotCzarnyaccording to tmo, sdxc cards work in n90018:35
bencohneat18:35
KotCzarnyhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7742018:35
KotCzarny Just upgraded my N900 with Samsung EVO 64GB MicroSDXC card, speeds up to 48MB/s formatted ext3.18:35
KotCzarnyhehe18:35
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KotCzarnyand apparently n8x0 do work with sdxc too18:39
KotCzarny2x 128GB storage space anyone?18:39
KotCzarny:>18:39
stryngsYa'ay....18:39
stryngsIt seems I have a real native package builder for maemo!18:39
stryngsWiTHOUT SB=)18:39
KotCzarnyi hate debs18:39
KotCzarny;)18:39
KotCzarnytar.gz ftw!18:39
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stryngsright, but i'm packaging stuff for the n900 KotCzarny18:40
stryngsaka... .debs needed18:40
KotCzarnynah.18:40
KotCzarny./configure; make; make install18:40
stryngssure18:41
stryngshow do u port it?18:41
stryngsso others can use it18:41
stryngsor so u dont have to reconfigure18:41
stryngsperhaps it takes 2 hrs to build like bind?18:41
stryngsetc..18:41
KotCzarnyall n900's are the same18:41
stryngsSure....  but what if u want to share your work?18:42
KotCzarnybut i'm just kidding18:42
KotCzarnyas for sharing my work, my audio player consists of.. 1 file18:42
KotCzarny(ONE)18:42
KotCzarnyhow many files does your audio player require?18:42
KotCzarny(to package)18:43
KotCzarnyplays anything from, mp3, through flac, aac, mid, mod(bunch of formats) up to wavs18:44
KotCzarnycan be controlled via telnet and clear text18:44
KotCzarnyor pygtk ui18:44
KotCzarnyand requires only standard system libs (libc, stdc++, etc)18:45
KotCzarnydo i like dependency hell?18:45
bencohthat's because you linked everything as static :p18:45
KotCzarnybencoh: yeah, and binary is ~4.5MB (could be half of that if i didnt packaged sids songlegth db inside)18:46
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bencohstryngs: I dont understand why you struggle that much with this, just so that you dont have to use SB, btw18:46
KotCzarnybencoh: actually it's a nice idea, i do development on device18:46
KotCzarnyand grabbing 2gigs for sdk is.. meh18:47
bencohI didnt grab 2g for sdk :)18:47
KotCzarnystill a bunch18:47
bencohyou can install it on a regular debuntu install18:47
stryngsbencoh: I build directly on the n900; thats why +)18:47
KotCzarnyhuh?18:47
stryngsbencoh: It is my main box18:47
bencohKotCzarny: debian/ubuntu (or any other distrib for that matters)18:48
KotCzarnynope18:48
KotCzarnysdk works on any system18:48
KotCzarny(i have slackware)18:48
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bencoh"or any other distrib for that matters" ;)18:48
bencoh(it's just a bit more of a hassle)18:48
KotCzarnynope, it isnt18:48
KotCzarnyinstaller script takes care of that18:48
KotCzarnysetups sb then installs sdk inside18:49
bencohanyway, you know how "easy" it is, then ;)18:49
KotCzarnyno need to support deb/rpm on the host18:49
KotCzarnybencoh: only thing i had to do was to change 'temporary download location' inside script18:49
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melissa_bencoh, marktplaats.nl18:55
KotCzarnylocal ebay-like site18:55
melissa_Yeah18:55
melissa_Oh btw KotCzarny root:u3P4mA1pj1skM:18:58
melissa_If you still want to decrypt it18:58
KotCzarnyjohn started19:00
melissa_Is there a flasher 3.5 .deb for i686 ?19:05
melissa_amd64*19:06
KotCzarnyi think flasher was available as a binary19:06
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KotCzarnyyou might install multiarch support then you can run x86 binaries19:08
melissa_ok19:10
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melissa_Btw, it doesn't matter whether I flash eMMC or the OS first, right?19:10
bencohactually it does, check the wiki19:10
melissa_I see19:11
JesperHI successfully used the i386 version of flasher today on a Debian Jessie with multiarch. Couldn't find an amd64 version, but apparently didn't really need it anyway19:14
melissa_Yay for Jessie19:16
JesperHAlso tried 0xFFFF, but apparently that didn't support flashing the MMC19:17
KotCzarnymight be beacause mmc is just dd'able19:17
KotCzarny*because19:17
KotCzarnyand is not a mtd device19:17
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JesperH*shrugs* No idea. Flasher worked, so I didn't bother looking into the details :)19:24
KotCzarnysure19:24
KotCzarnythat's what one should do anyway19:24
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_1_cbKannst you Germany spiking19:28
melissa_JesperH, how'd you install multiarch? Just apt-get install multiarch-support ?19:28
JesperHmelissa_: It's been a while, but if IIRC: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update19:30
JesperHAlso described here: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO19:31
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melissa_Thanks19:46
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melissa_One thing that isn't clear to me: in step 11 of Flashing_the_eMMC_in_the_N900, it tells me to run the "above commands" with the -R option. Am I supposed to run the exact same commands I just ran?19:48
melissa_"above commands" is a hyperlink but I'm not sure what it's referring to19:48
KotCzarnymelissa: that hash is either salted or invalid19:49
melissa_Shouldn't I be using the "FIASCO/rootfs image", wherever I can get those?19:49
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JesperHThe -R option just makes it reboot. Not necessary, but convenient for when you're done19:50
melissa_Okay but FIASCO image is a different image than than the VANILLA one, right?19:50
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JesperHMy understanding is that "fiasco" is a word for the type of file. Fiasco images can contain a number of parts, such as kernel, initrd and rootfs, and you can choose to flash just one of those parts19:54
JesperHThe way I flashed mine earlier today was: flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f19:56
JesperHFollowed by: flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R19:56
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melissa_So FIASCO refers to these instructions: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Linux_PC . Is that correct?19:58
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KotCzarnyhttp://blog.tldnr.org/english/2015/01/10/reviving-an-old-n900-without-lock-code/20:01
KotCzarnymaybe this will help you20:01
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KotCzarnyanyone with pygtk latin1 to unicode experience?20:58
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Vajbi recovered my devices lock code with john the ripper21:13
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KotCzarnyvajb, thing is some codes don't resolve21:14
KotCzarnymight be pr1.3 added salt or something21:14
Vajbhow many of u use bme-replacement?21:14
Vajboh i see21:15
KotCzarnyi'm using stock fremantle21:15
Vajbi kinda remember flashing it first to pr1.3 and then solved lock code21:15
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KotCzarnyyou are free to try your john on the hash21:16
KotCzarnyit was posted few screens back21:16
Vajbi would really like to hear some user opinions about bme-replacement.21:17
Vajbyes i saw it21:17
KotCzarnylast time i was playing with custom thingies was ~2009-201021:17
Vajbi guess there is no point trying again if u already did :)21:18
KotCzarnyso many years with stock fremantle21:18
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bencohVajb: I guess bq27x00_battery gives you different readings than bq27200.sh as well ?21:18
Vajbhmm how to get bq27x00_battery values?21:19
KotCzarnyapt-cache search?21:19
bencohfrom /sys/modules21:19
bencohbut I'm referring to the value status-area-applet-battery displays21:19
Vajbmy main concern is that applet never reaching 100%21:19
bencohthe "last-full" value seems odd21:19
bencohVajb: hmm, that's probably normal behavior21:20
Vajb1221/1308 is the best i can get21:20
KotCzarnymaybe 1308 is 'factory max' ?21:20
KotCzarnyand 1221 is last-max ?21:20
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Vajbseems strange because bq.sh shows a lot more21:21
Vajband also gets to 100%21:21
KotCzarnywhat does battery-eye show in stats?21:21
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VajbKotCzarny: 1308 is calibrated discharge value and 1221 is the value that battery is charged to21:22
Vajbdont have battery eye installed21:22
KotCzarnyright, might be that battery is uncalibrated21:22
Vajbbq.sh says that it is calibrated21:23
KotCzarnyyou did full cycle without interruptions?21:23
Vajbci:021:23
Vajbyup21:23
Vajbseveral actually21:23
Vajbi think it neede three or four before ci was set to 021:23
Vajbneeded*21:24
Vajbright now im thinking of setting gconf value to 0 (so it would use measured value), but im having second thought since this isn't my testing device21:26
Vajband with my testing device i can't calibrate battery because it reboots randomly21:27
Vajbso can't really test it there21:27
KotCzarny:)21:27
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KotCzarnydo you know anyone who has nokia using bl5j?21:28
KotCzarnyswap/test21:28
Vajbnope21:28
Vajbeveryone has samsung nowadays21:28
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KotCzarnyi have nokia n90021:28
Vajbsad progress of things imo21:28
Vajbso do u maybe live next door? lol21:28
KotCzarnyum21:29
KotCzarnyfew hundreds km south, it seems21:29
Vajbbut does it matter what applet shows? Will my device still take everything out from battery?21:30
Vajbestonia?21:30
KotCzarnyfew more hundreds21:30
Vajbrussia?21:30
KotCzarnysouth21:30
Vajbwhite russia21:31
KotCzarnya bit to the west21:31
Vajbbah belarus21:31
Vajbpoland21:31
KotCzarny:)21:31
KotCzarnystill, make a graph21:31
KotCzarnyeither manually or install battery-eye21:32
Vajbwell i don't need graph just every last bit of juice from battery :)21:32
KotCzarnybut in my opinion you are just running a bit of time with battery showing 0mAh remaining21:32
KotCzarnyobserve when in red21:33
Vajbyes it does that, but without looking bq.sh loop mode i have no idea how low it is21:33
Vajblast i tried i had 3600mv when it show 0mah at applet21:34
KotCzarnyi noticed similar situation on my thinkpads with old batterys21:34
Vajbbut that's kinda hard to keep looking looping shell while working...21:34
Vajbthis one is new battery21:34
KotCzarnythat's why i coerce you into installing battery-eye21:35
KotCzarnyit will do it for you21:35
Vajbabout 40 cycles old21:35
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KotCzarnyor just write a script21:35
KotCzarnyor search tmo21:35
Vajbhmm i think i installed that to my test device, but didn't find it too usefull21:36
KotCzarnyi like the amount of data it shows21:36
KotCzarnygraphs are pretty detailed, and statistics show few interesting things too21:36
Vajbsameway i like the data that bq27200.sh is showing21:37
KotCzarnybtw. you say you have 2 devices?21:38
Vajbis estel anywhere around?21:38
Vajbyes i do21:38
KotCzarnyswap batterys then21:38
KotCzarnybatteries?21:38
Vajbone stable and one booting constantly21:38
Vajbi don't think problem is battery21:39
Vajbat least it shouldn't be21:39
KotCzarnybut you will see data change21:39
Vajbyes?21:39
KotCzarnyyou should, unless they are identical cycle/capacity wise21:40
Vajbkinda like starting calibration from scratch to see if it makes difference?21:40
KotCzarnyyes21:40
KotCzarnyyou will see if the max number goes inline with discharge max21:41
Vajbhmm think i will try that21:42
Vajbthx21:42
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KotCzarnyyou might also fix the other device21:47
melissa_Wow21:48
melissa_The original firmware actually looks better21:48
KotCzarnylol21:48
KotCzarnycheck if vibra works21:48
Vajbi've tried a lot of stuff for that other device, but none fixed it so far21:50
KotCzarnyvajb, can you boot into bootloader?21:51
Vajbi have some advices to fix it, but haven't got time to apply them21:51
KotCzarnyie. the part where it only goes into ramdisk21:51
Vajbyes i have bootmenu installed21:52
melissa_Is it possible with that firmware to connect to the Internet with the WPA2 key?21:52
Vajbfsck seems to help little while21:52
KotCzarnyvajb: bad internal flash?21:53
melissa_It only offers two methods that involve pressing buttons on my router which I don't have21:53
KotCzarnyyou might get lucky booting into system on sd21:53
Vajbit's working normally till it suddenly reboots21:53
KotCzarnyvajb: did you try moving system to sd card?21:53
Vajbtried cssu-s and -t. Currently having thumb21:53
Vajbno21:54
Vajbmaybe next week i will give it some sweet loving, if i have time21:55
Vajbbut now i must sleep21:55
KotCzarny:)21:55
Vajblater21:56
KotCzarnymelissa: you mean wpa2 enterprise or wpa2 personal?21:57
KotCzarnybut you might have stumbled into failing certificate21:58
KotCzarnysomeone was having similar problem here few days ago21:58
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Sicelopossibly personal. melissa_, who is 'managing' the AP?22:05
melissa_AP?22:05
Siceloaccess point22:06
melissa_o22:06
melissa_I think I'm just going to reflash it with RD mode enabled22:06
melissa_I only need root briefly22:06
melissa_I'm managing it myself22:06
Siceloanyway, N900 is a WPA2 device22:07
melissa_But the router only has buttons for turning it on and off, so it won't help22:07
melissa_It doesn't offer me to type in the password22:07
melissa_It tells me "press this one button on your router (which I don't have) and then press Done"22:08
Sicelosomething is telling the N900 that there is WPS active on that AP ... are you sure you don't have _two_ networks on the N900 with similar name?22:08
melissa_I checked, but couldn't find it22:08
KotCzarnycheck under the labels22:09
KotCzarnyor in ap manual22:09
KotCzarnyor press the ligths22:09
KotCzarnyhehe22:09
KotCzarnypress anywhere22:09
Siceloif N900's connection dialog doesn't show you two networks (one with WPS and one without), then try creating the connection manually from the Settings > Internet Connections menu.22:12
sixwheeledbeast^melissa_: what model router/ap is it? Any WPS type connections should show on the N900 icd2 popup.22:13
melissa_Actually, even if I get root access, I still won't have a way to retrieve the PIN22:13
melissa_So all of this is irrelevant22:13
melissa_I already have the hash22:13
KotCzarnypress the ap in places22:13
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KotCzarnywow, someone from Philippines downloaded oscp22:19
melissa_And this is why Comic Sans should be the default font on every machine.22:22
melissa_Turned out a 1 was really an l22:23
melissa_I have the PIN now22:23
melissa_(I manually typed out the hash from reading the screen)22:25
KotCzarnyfail22:25
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KotCzarnylol, nokias 770 go for ~30-40usd on ebay22:40
KotCzarnyand more..22:40
KotCzarnyso, anyone got 770 that they aren't using anymore? i could grab one22:41
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melissa_hm23:10
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melissa_The person who's buying this N900 lives in the UK, but I bought it here in the Netherlands. Should I install UK firmware on it or not?23:11
melissa_I mean does it have to do with connectivity, or is it that certain devices need other firmware?23:11
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sixwheeledbeast^melissa_: use global23:20
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melissa_Well, I'm glad that's out of the way23:55
melissa_Thanks for all the help, guys23:55
melissa_Also I guess this is kinda goodbye. I'm not gonna barge in here anymore bencoh because I won't have any questions to ask :p23:56
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