IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2015-02-18

bencohcan I haz unicode with my colorz ?00:00
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MonkeyofDoomhow does maemo do wifi? I can't find NetworkManager or wpa_supplicant running05:38
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MonkeyofDoomwtf, osso-wlan and eapd06:16
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Siceloand eapd closed :(06:28
Sicelowhy you ask anyway?06:28
Siceloyou can used wpa_supplicant if you have to ...06:28
MonkeyofDoomSicelo: I've been trying every permutation of options to get the Maemo to connect to a PEAP/mschapv2 network recently and was hoping to look at debug output to see something more informative than "authentication failure"06:39
MonkeyofDoomworst-case I'll look into wpa_supplicant, but I assume that means the GUI becomes inoperative?06:40
MonkeyofDoomwhy would they ship a closed-source component like that if there was a working open-source one out there?06:41
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pabs3this site appears to be a spam site but planet-maemo is subscribed to its RSS feed http://www.maemo-guru.com/07:12
pabs3could someone remove it?07:12
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SiceloMonkeyofDoom: try the EAP tab in Advanced SEttings. Enable "Use manual user name" and re-enter the username in the "Manual user name field." If you've tried this and it didn't work, then wpa_supplicant is the only way you can connect to that network07:30
* Sicelo has a network like that at work, and wpa_supplicant works just fine07:30
MonkeyofDoomI believe I've already tried exactly that07:30
MonkeyofDoombut I'll give it a go next chance I get07:30
MonkeyofDoomfairly garbage that there are networks where it Just Doesn't Work though, no?07:33
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KotCzarnycan i have multiple sdks in one scratchbox?10:46
KotCzarnyie. 770 and n800 and n900 ?10:47
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bencohKotCzarny: you can choose the target in sb, so .... I'd say "yes" but I dunno for sure and I have never tried11:17
KotCzarnybencoh: thought about that, but do sdk installers are dependant on specific tools versions etc11:18
KotCzarnyworst case scenario is 3 separate sdks with home dirs symlinked11:18
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SiceloMonkeyofDoom: it looks like eapd isn't strictly at fault. seems most of the time there is actually something broken in the network or its config. N900 'takes things too seriously' with Enterprise networks. once something is amiss, it will refuse to connect, while almost all other devices will let you choose to connnect anyway. N900 will not even auto-connect to an enterprise network .. there is some bug against that, and Nokia said it's a feature.12:14
bencohwhat do you mean by "once something is amiss"12:14
bencoh?12:14
Sicelowhen there is something not exactly right with the network12:19
Siceloe.g. our work network has some certificate problem. even iPhone users get prompted to "connect anyway" the first time12:19
KotCzarnyisn't enterprise about security?12:20
KotCzarnyif enterprise sets fugly network, its' fugly enterprise and should be ticketed to it/sysadmins deparment12:20
drathirdepend of it guy workin in enterprise corpo i guess...12:21
Sicelowhich of course N900 does not. i setup a proper PEAP network at home, and N900 connects to it just fine. that's why i say N900 isn't exactly in the wrong, except that it does take things too seriously :)12:21
drathirSicelo: what is missing ?12:21
KotCzarnysicelo, as i said, nag the sysadmins12:21
KotCzarny:)12:21
Sicelolol.. KotCzarny :D12:21
KotCzarnyit's their job they are paid for, right?12:22
Sicelothere's over 1000, and i'm the only N900 user. you can guess i don't count12:22
Sicelo*1000 users of this WiFi12:22
KotCzarnyyou've found a bug in their network12:22
KotCzarnyand bugs usually mean there is a hole12:22
bencohdepends on the "bug"12:23
KotCzarnybugs are results of flaky code12:23
bencohfor instance, if the certificate is expired, that's a "bug"12:23
drathirSicelo: maybe You using staff that match rfc-s ^^12:23
Sicelodrathir: i have forgot the exact problem .. been a while since i checked out the situation.12:23
Sicelousing what?12:23
KotCzarnysicelo, in the worst case just set up wifi ap for yourself ;)12:23
bencohif the CA they're using isnt installed on n900 (or if their cert is autosigned) it's not a bug12:24
drathirSicelo: specifications of interfaces used, not all stuff follow thats docs...12:24
KotCzarnyi think he meant 'stuff'12:24
SiceloKotCzarny: not permitted in the work environment to install other connectivity devices. only managed cisco are here. even bluetooth service is disabled on all computers :p12:25
drathirhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_for_Comments12:25
KotCzarnyso, back to 'try to debug and find what's wrong' phase then12:25
KotCzarnythen to post the ticket for sysadmins12:26
KotCzarny;)12:26
Sicelo:D12:26
KotCzarnygrab some linux machine, enable max debugs in wpa_supplicant, and see if there is anything interesting that might point you to the n900 issue12:27
Siceloi'm not a sysadmin, but am privileged to look at them. Nokia is officially not supported (this enterprise problem is not N900-specific .. even N8 and others have it)12:27
KotCzarnyie. try to connect at work with max debug12:27
drathirKotCzarny: yea and the sysadmin go to angry mode ;p12:27
bencohBOFH :p12:27
KotCzarnydrathir: more like, 'i dont care' mode12:27
Siceloand i do have wap_supplicant  on the N900 .. that's how i connect to this wifi12:27
Siceloso yes, they can keep their network, lol.. i don't care anymore12:28
KotCzarnysicelo, enable max debug, investigate for oddities12:28
erlehmanni want the source code for message center12:28
erlehmannwhere is it12:28
erlehmanngibe source12:28
erlehmanni can patch12:28
drathirSicelo: i say You that almost sure the bb9900 is even more restrictive "in secure config" than n900...12:28
Siceloi did that .. but that info isn't of any use in the end. they will not reconfigure it for me only, especially using such an 'ancient' device12:28
KotCzarnysicelo: find other users, make a lobby12:28
Sicelohaha, maybe i'm a lazy guy then ...12:29
Sicelobut i can assure you only Nokia users have problems here (symbian + my 2 maemo devices). so .. who cares12:29
KotCzarnyor grab data plan for your phone12:29
Sicelo10:27 < Sicelo> and i do have wap_supplicant  on the N900 .. that's how i connect to this wifi12:30
bencohdoes it work with wpa_supplicant ?12:30
Sicelo100%12:30
bencohoh, well ...12:30
drathirsymbian mostly not care about certs i guess... never have any warnings about... ;/12:31
Sicelojust disable cert verification in the config and you're done ;)12:31
bencohSicelo: is the cert autosigned, or expired ?12:31
Sicelosymbian does care .. it just never warns you, same as maemo :p12:31
drathirSicelo: oh... /me not sure than whats is the point if not warn about...12:32
KotCzarnydrathir: doesnt warn, just drops connection12:32
KotCzarny;)12:32
KotCzarnyie. nazi mode12:32
* drathir like certpatrol ;p12:32
Sicelobencoh: i will recheck the cert issue for you.. there is a CA, and the cert is signed by that CA .. however using the root cert didn't help me at all. maybe it's missing some fields or something12:32
bencohoh, sad12:33
drathirKotCzarny: thats the point never have a symbin sytuation with drop, thats low possibility  i have that big lucky, the bb9900 is nazi mode, because with really wrong cert even not allow to connect no force mode at all...12:34
Sicelowill be quicker to show you the error it throws on Windows for this ... it's in some MS KB12:35
drathirSicelo: wonder if they using multiple dns matching... ?12:36
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pabs3this site appears to be a spam site but planet-maemo is subscribed to its RSS feed http://www.maemo-guru.com/13:23
pabs3could someone remove it?13:23
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erlehmannthe link to the SDK is dead http://maemo.org/development/sdks/13:36
KotCzarnyyes, for quite long time13:36
KotCzarnyfew years probably13:36
erlehmannhow do i start developing13:36
Siceloso, bencoh, drathir, KotCzarny ... Microsoft KB 2518158 ... that's what you get for this wifi network on a windows machine which is outside the domain. said laptop has the cert. managed laptops don't get this prompt13:36
erlehmanni want the MUC chat to fix13:36
KotCzarnyerlehmann: grab the source, change the code13:37
erlehmannKotCzarny where is the repository for all source code?13:37
KotCzarnyin case source is not available, find someone who can change it13:37
KotCzarnyhttp://maemo.org/development/sources/13:37
erlehmannokay thx13:39
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erlehmannhow is the messagengi interface called?13:39
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KotCzarnysicelo: google found this for me: http://serverfault.com/questions/624218/setting-up-nps-with-a-certificate-that-is-valid-to-both-ad-and-non-ad-machines13:40
KotCzarnycould be only one of many problems related to that kb13:40
bencoh~sb13:41
infobotscratchbox is probably a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB13:41
bencoherlehmann: ^13:41
bencohapt-get source <existing-package> to fetch sources from repository13:42
bencohand see gitorious.org/community-cssu13:42
bencoherr13:42
bencohgitorious.org/community-ssu (no "c")13:43
erlehmanni do not know how the package is called13:43
Siceloso anyway, you know how sysadmins are ... they know, you don't. when you try show that you know, they start hunting you down in suspcion of hacking, etc.13:43
bencohwelcome to the corpo world13:44
* Sicelo is satisfied with wpa_supplicant solution as a result :)13:44
KotCzarny:)13:44
drathirSicelo: thanks...13:44
KotCzarnysicelo, isnt it that what you are doing now?13:45
bencohSicelo: "real" sysadmins in a proper env aren't like that ;)13:45
KotCzarnyie. using different tools to connect, debug etc13:45
Siceloi'm not saying this is the problem on the network MonkeyofDoom is using, but that broken networks do exist in abundance, and no one cares to fix them13:45
KotCzarnytHATS hacking13:45
Sicelohaha KotCzarny13:45
KotCzarnywhich is different from CRACKING13:45
KotCzarnylearn the difference13:45
bencoh:-)13:46
Siceloi know. anyway, wpa_supplicant is 'hacking' my phone, not the network lulz13:46
KotCzarnystill, you are hacking13:47
KotCzarny:)13:47
Sicelopity Exchange ActiveSync can't be fooled in the same way ..13:48
drathirim pretty sure if they dont care about security of connect to network they even more dont care about Sicelo "hacking" ;p13:48
Siceloit's the only corporate resource i cannot use atm, and OWA is disabled on our network13:48
drathirbut true better not give solutions, because if someone goin to make nasty things You become first suspicious one ;/ that sad...13:50
Siceloyes, true that13:50
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Siceloluckily, i'm the only N900 user, and Symbianers can't be helped this way13:51
drathirThat why me only allow to get access to friends pc, and not much like get access to random one persons from network even when helping...13:52
KotCzarnywell.. friends can be your worst enemy13:53
KotCzarny:)13:53
drathirofc often me takes few min to fix somethin than few h to make a follow person with my minds ;p13:53
drathirbut taht is more secure for me, and for person bc he also should feel more secure...13:54
KotCzarnywhy computers have viruses? because of people using them (mostly)13:54
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drathirKotCzarny: thats true, but personally not have a much friend, but them are real one root meaning of that word not like this days "normal" ppl understandin "friends" word mean... personally even save to give full acces to bank account w/o any aware... ;p13:57
drathirKotCzarny: bc of winscary...13:58
KotCzarnyfriend is someone you give root access to13:58
KotCzarny:)13:58
drathirKotCzarny: that all bad is bc of m$ ;p13:58
KotCzarny(stupid pygtk not showing icons on buttons *grumble*)13:59
drathirKotCzarny: which one make ppl more stupid one than real them are... m$ is brain vaccum for ppl...13:59
Palihere is alt link: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/14:00
KotCzarnydrathir: windows started as a way to allow not-computer-savvy people use computers14:00
KotCzarnythen it just went the 'we know, you dont, but here, click those icons'14:00
KotCzarnyneo-illiteracy14:01
KotCzarnyfrom understanding back to image-communication14:01
drathirKotCzarny: no they find good way to drain ppl money for nothing and make ppl dumb-er and foul them... ;/ no thinkin when using a pc is worser than not using pc at all...14:02
KotCzarnythat too14:02
KotCzarnybut it's the way world went, many years ago if kid was running free late, no one cared much, now.. 'oh no, you must be with kid ALL the time or something bad will happen'14:03
* drathir when only can direct ppl to linux and help and learn to using the "better and safer" os...14:03
KotCzarnyie. from civilised to gangsta14:03
drathirKotCzarny: but honestly wonder and will little scared what will happen if linux get as much donation like m$ drain from ppl... aware if not became better but worser...14:06
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KotCzarnydrathir: linux doesnt need donations but big user base14:07
KotCzarnyonce that happens, people and corpos will consider it worthy of attention14:07
drathirthe same bad like become now with ubuntu in my opinion now...14:07
drathirone now*14:07
* KotCzarny uses slackware14:07
KotCzarnysince 4.014:08
KotCzarnytried all debian/rh based ones14:08
drathirKotCzarny: nice...14:08
KotCzarnythey got too far from k.i.s.s. principle14:08
KotCzarnythey got m$14:08
KotCzarnym$ way14:08
KotCzarny'we know, you don't'14:09
* drathir sitting at arch, but only one alternative if arch goin really bad in decisions is openbsd...14:09
KotCzarnyslackware is nice because it doesnt overcomplicate things, tries to get as much out of your way as possible14:10
drathirKotCzarny: slackware have systemd onboard?14:10
KotCzarnynope14:10
KotCzarnyone of the few that don't14:10
drathirKotCzarny: thats good news...14:10
drathiri guess need to prepare vm for slacckware in near future...14:11
KotCzarnyand slackware leader explicitily said it doesn't like systemd14:11
drathirKotCzarny: package manager/format rpm?14:11
KotCzarnytxz14:12
KotCzarnytgz14:12
drathirO.o thats also good...14:12
KotCzarnypackage manager is there but i do things manually14:12
drathirwonder if pacman able to assimilate...14:12
KotCzarnyyou can even do rpm2tgz and install resultant package without caring about the deps14:13
KotCzarnyit's really simple, but allows you to do interesting things without being policed by package manager14:13
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KotCzarnydrathir, also, preparing your own packages is VERY simple14:19
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drathirKotCzarny: arch with aur is a really flexible things too... need to watch in action that os too...14:22
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erlehmann504 Host tablets-dev.nokia.com lookup failed: Host not found14:38
erlehmannwhere do i get current image14:38
erlehmannhere? http://www.jedge.com/n900/14:39
erlehmann~image14:40
infobotSee 'iso'14:40
erlehmann~iso14:40
infoboti guess iso is 20megs, but it has a complete secure web interface14:40
erlehmannwat14:40
erlehmann~flash14:40
infobotit has been said that maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh14:40
erlehmann~flasher14:40
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, flasher is at http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz (also .exe!), or http://www.chakra-project.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=5027 or generally http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz.   HARMattan(N9): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fl/flasher-harmattan/flasher-harmattan.tar.gz, or -- list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH, or http://galif.eu/nokia/14:40
KotCzarnythere are no flash images on maemo.org?14:40
KotCzarnyis there some copyright issue?14:41
KotCzarny(luckily i have mine backed up)14:41
erlehmann~RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin14:41
KotCzarnyhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1418219&postcount=1314:41
erlehmannKotCzarny thx. do i need all of them?14:42
KotCzarnyjust the version you want14:42
erlehmann5GB OPTFS Image: 5GB Optfs EMMC Modified Image what is that14:42
KotCzarnyyou can run some custom linux from mmc probably14:43
bencohyou prolly want the P3 1.3+EMMC image14:43
KotCzarnyor modified for smaller /opt14:43
bencohKotCzarny: larger /opt I guess14:44
bencoh("5GB" ;)14:44
KotCzarnyoh14:44
KotCzarnystill, needs some howto probably14:44
KotCzarnyand that firedrive is ugly14:45
KotCzarnyad infested14:45
KotCzarnyso, why doesn't maemo.org host firmware images?14:45
bencohthere is an archive at archive.org14:45
erlehmannhow do i download from firedrive o.014:45
bencohoh, and14:47
bencoh~flash14:47
infobotmaemo-flashing is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware, or - on linux PC - download&extract http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/maemo-my-private-workdir.tgz, cd into it, do sudo ./flash-it-all.sh14:47
bencohsee flash-it-all.sh (from Docs) ^14:47
bencohit should fetch everything iirc14:47
bencohhttps://web.archive.org/web/20131117073524/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900 mirrors "everything"14:48
erlehmannenabling js on firedrive made my system load go up to >714:50
erlehmannnot again14:50
erlehmannit is still >414:50
KotCzarnysorry for that, didnt check before pasting14:51
bencohjust fetch the images from archive.org :)14:51
KotCzarnyall the ads got cut by my adblocker14:51
erlehmanni figured the scripts might start the download14:53
KotCzarnyi have js enabled and cut ads by urls14:53
erlehmannthx bencoh14:56
erlehmannbut there is no RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin14:57
bencohhmmm ... true, I wonder why14:57
bencohthere is .42 though14:58
erlehmanni found some http://213.128.137.28/showthread.php?t=88001#edit129806914:58
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erlehmannwhat is this eMMC thingy?14:59
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bencoh(strange, I cant download any file from this archive.org mirror at the moment)15:01
erlehmannhttp://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/9/--FID--A0A22MVWFVFAM/--LID--FiRe1317015685654/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin15:01
erlehmann; md5sum $home/Downloads/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin15:02
erlehmann095259c2380e894dc1d6a2999526ec9f  /home/erlehmann/Downloads/RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin15:02
erlehmannis that correct?15:02
erlehmannso https://web.archive.org/web/20131117073522/http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/15:03
KotCzarnyhttp://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/15:04
KotCzarnyanother source15:04
bencohevery link works from this one, funny15:04
erlehmanninteresting15:04
erlehmannthe point is my GF has no upgrade path to CSSU if this flashing thing does not work15:04
bencoh?15:05
bencohit should work alright15:05
KotCzarnyhttp://www.fladnag.net/downloads/telephone/n900/MD5SUMS15:05
bencoha lot of people recently flashed/upgraded to cssu recently15:05
KotCzarnybencoh: worth it?15:06
erlehmannbencoh can you give me the least misleading tutorial to that?15:06
bencohKotCzarny: definitely15:07
bencoherlehmann: I dunno about the least misleading, but the cssu page on the wiki looks fine15:07
KotCzarnybiggest sell point?15:07
bencoheverything, from security updates (well ... it's still lagging, but it needs love and manpower :) to features15:08
bencohand bugfixes15:08
KotCzarnystock still works for me15:09
KotCzarnyis there some battery saving ?15:09
KotCzarnyie. more battery efficient15:09
KotCzarnysms/call log is stored on /home so it will be automatically transferred, right?15:10
bencohKotCzarny: lots of memleak fixes and rewritten closed-source bits in cssu-t15:12
erlehmannbencoh can you tell me which application does the chat interface?15:12
erlehmanni need to insert one simple xmpp message15:12
erlehmannso it retrieves last 20 muc messages15:12
bencoherlehmann: I'd look for rtcom-messaging-ui and telepathy15:12
bencoh(and related stuff)15:13
erlehmannok15:13
erlehmanni have done an art http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/tmp/bin/n900/15:14
erlehmannis writtin in js? https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait/source/38f1c4427b0cd32cf77f474f718299bfb3540abd:MessagingWidgetsChatConversation.js15:16
KotCzarnywidget(ui) might be15:16
bencoherlehmann: as I told you yestarday, this is just part of the UI, and most of rtcom is closed15:17
erlehmannbencoh maybe i can hotpatch it15:17
KotCzarnyreplace packets on the go?15:17
KotCzarnyedit binary and insert string?15:17
erlehmannno, patch the binary15:18
erlehmannyes15:18
bencohI'd seriously doubt that, but depending on what you want/need the answer might lie elsewhere (telepathy for instance)15:18
erlehmannhmm, okay15:19
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erlehmannit is only one xml stanza that needs to be sent15:19
erlehmann<history maxstanzas="20" since="2015-02-17T16:12:41Z" /> or something15:20
erlehmanni could shorten it15:20
erlehmannbencoh is telepathy for n900 open?15:20
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erlehmanni may have it15:22
bencohit is15:25
bencohmost of it at least15:25
erlehmannhttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/telepathy-gabble/source/f5d37a5ddf21d0053b369bf59f5edebfe1c91ceb:src/muc-channel.c15:29
bencohdont ask me about xmpp, I know next to nothing (and dont really want to know :p)15:31
erlehmanni know a bit15:36
erlehmannbut not about telepathy15:36
erlehmannbencoh in case i have a patch, can you test?15:36
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bencohnot really, no15:38
bencohI dont even use jabber15:38
erlehmanntelepathy-haze might work15:39
erlehmanninstalling it15:39
bencohif you believe telepathy (or telepath-gabble) is broken you should check telepathy bugtracker and changelogs15:39
bencohyour issue might be fixed upstream15:39
erlehmanni do not believe it is broken15:39
bencohbroken, or missing a feature :)15:39
erlehmannyes15:40
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erlehmannbencoh i think i might be able to fix this16:00
erlehmanni need the cssu telepathy maintainer16:00
merlin1991well16:01
merlin1991looks like Pali worked on it16:01
merlin1991but if you manage to fix it on your own just throw a MR against https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/telepathy-gabble and we'll make sure to include it16:02
Palivoice and video calls with gmail are broken because merlin1991 did not released new version of community ssu telepathy-gabble yet16:02
* merlin1991 hides16:03
erlehmannoh, you both are here16:03
erlehmanni know nothing of the telepathy code16:03
erlehmannbut can you two tell me how to send a simple stanza?16:03
Paliits fixed since Tuesday May 20 201416:03
erlehmann<history maxstanzas="20" since="2015-02-17T16:12:41Z" /> or something16:03
* merlin1991 hides some more16:03
erlehmannif you send this, muc server responds with messages16:03
Paliyou need to modify telepathy-gabble source code16:04
erlehmanni know16:04
erlehmannbut the point is, how to send stanza16:04
Paliif you want to send your own xmpp stanza16:04
erlehmanni have the place where i need to put it16:04
PaliI do not know gabble source code as much...16:04
erlehmannin muc-channel.c16:04
erlehmannhttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/telepathy-gabble/source/f5d37a5ddf21d0053b369bf59f5edebfe1c91ceb:src/muc-channel.c16:04
Palimerlin1991: instead being hidden, release new versio of telepathy-gabble now! :-)16:05
bencoh16:05
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erlehmannmerlin1991 can you help me?16:09
merlin1991I never touched telepathy, sorry16:09
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erlehmannPali merlin1991 i will now guess how to make patchings16:14
Paliok16:15
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erlehmann; git clone https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/telepathy-gabble.git16:46
erlehmann:316:46
erlehmannPali merlin1991 this is the presence stanza i need to send <presence from='…' id='…' to='…'><x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc'><history maxstanzas="20"/></x></presence>16:57
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bencohdownloading from archive.org is painfully slow :/17:11
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SiceloPali: you mean when the update is released we will again be able to use video/audio for GTalk? Since gtalk became Hangouts (unless i'm mistaken) does it mean i can call those users?17:27
Palino with hangouts but with gmail web plugin17:28
Palithat old one17:29
Sicelook. no idea about that plugin. will look17:29
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erlehmannPali merlin1991 i think i got it!17:34
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erlehmannPali merlin1991 http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/telepathy-gabble-muc-history.c17:45
erlehmannPali merlin1991 can you merge that into muc-channel.c and make sure it is called when joining a channel?17:46
erlehmanni have not run the code in question.17:46
erlehmannas i have no idea to build this stuff17:46
erlehmannbut i am reasonably certain that it should work17:47
bencohhave you fetched the sb vm ?17:47
erlehmannthe what?17:47
erlehmanngive url17:48
bencoh~sb17:48
infobot[scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB17:48
bencohsecond link17:48
erlehmanni need to clean dishes soon.17:48
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erlehmann> - Estimated size: 5.5GB (normal) and 1.3GB (compressed - 7zip format)17:49
erlehmanni have not much space!17:49
erlehmannnot that much17:49
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erlehmannbencoh i would be happy if Pali or merlin1991 could merge this function as users could enjoy muc history then!17:50
erlehmannyeah and maybe it is of stupid17:50
erlehmannafter all, „const gchar *stanzas“ enables you to say maxstanzas="bread"17:51
erlehmannbut i think the maxstanzas value will be hardcoded regardless17:51
erlehmannjust somewhere else17:51
stryngserlehmann: http://termbin.com/x1xl17:52
* stryngs flexes17:52
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erlehmannstryngs can you test my patch?17:53
erlehmannor rather, my function.17:53
stryngssuch as?17:53
erlehmannhttp://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/telepathy-gabble-muc-history.c17:54
bencoherlehmann: they'll eventually merge it (probably ... I guess :p) if you provide them with a working patch :)17:54
bencohbut you still need to test it17:54
erlehmannbencoh i do not know where to call the function17:54
stryngshow do u want me to patch it?  What is it for?17:54
erlehmannstryngs it is for telepathy-gabble a function that enables history upon joining MUC17:55
stryngsMUC17:55
stryngs?17:55
bencoherlehmann: they probably dont either17:55
erlehmannbencoh i will find out17:56
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erlehmannin #telepathy someone told me i misunderstood everything!17:57
erlehmann<ramcq> erlehmann: you've misunderstood the protocol slightly; this <x><history>... thing is not a history message by itself, it's metadata which is included in the <presence> message which XMPP uses to join the MUC17:58
erlehmann<ramcq> erlehmann: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html#enter-managehistory "This is accomplished by including a <history/> child in the initial presence stanza sent when joining the room."17:58
erlehmann<ramcq> erlehmann: so it shouldn't be its own function, it should be a modification to whatever function already makes and sends that <presence> to join the room17:58
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erlehmannha18:04
erlehmannaccording to this dbus-monitor, n900 is just ignoring history.18:04
KotCzarnyhehe18:04
erlehmannda fuq18:05
erlehmannso i wrote a useless patch18:05
KotCzarnynow you have to unignore history18:05
erlehmannhow18:05
bencohhow do you know ?18:06
Sicelowhat ramcq said seems to be in line with the spec you have in your patch .. example 3818:06
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erlehmannoh lel18:07
erlehmannmuc_factory_message_cb is selectively ignoring ._.18:07
Siceloerlehmann: i have  a jabber account .. what is an MUC that i can join? last joined one maybe 4 years ago :D18:08
erlehmannsicelo, maemo@conference.jabber.ccc.de18:10
Sicelocool. let me18:10
erlehmanni think i have a one line workaround18:11
Wizzupwin 3118:11
Wizzupoops.18:11
erlehmannSicelo write something in muc18:12
erlehmanni need to test this18:12
KotCzarnyjoin with jabber or pidgin and test18:13
KotCzarny:)18:13
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erlehmannlel18:22
erlehmannin muc-channel.c18:25
erlehmannsearch for   /* Ignore messages from the channel.18:25
erlehmannbeautiful18:25
KotCzarnycastrated-in-yet-another-place?18:26
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erlehmannmay it be that the history messages come from the channel?18:27
KotCzarnyif you get debug messages "ignoring message from muc" then yes18:28
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erlehmanni would suggest to delete the offending code18:30
erlehmann  if (!is_echo && !is_error && sender_handle_type == TP_HANDLE_TYPE_ROOM)18:30
erlehmann    {18:30
erlehmann      NODE_DEBUG (msg->node, "ignoring message from muc");18:30
erlehmann      return;18:30
erlehmann    }18:30
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erlehmannthe comment above it even remarks on this18:30
erlehmannthat they have never seen useful messages etc. pp.18:31
erlehmann  /* Ignore messages from the channel.  The only such messages I have seen in18:31
erlehmann   * practice have been on devel@conference.pidgin.im, which sends useful18:31
erlehmann   * messages like "foo has set the subject to: ..." and "This room is not18:31
erlehmann   * anonymous".18:31
erlehmann  */18:31
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KotCzarnyremove, recompile, test18:31
erlehmannah https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2791318:32
povbotBug 27913: was not found.18:32
erlehmannfunneh18:33
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erlehmannreading MessagingWidgetsChatConversation.js now18:41
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erlehmann * Copyright (C) 2009 Nokia Corporation. All rights reserved.18:49
erlehmann *18:49
erlehmann * Contact: Naba Kumar <naba.kumar@nokia.com>18:49
erlehmanni will send mail18:49
bencoherr18:51
erlehmann<fledermaus> I don't know that that address will still be any good...18:51
erlehmannbencoh according to source code, naba kumar wrote at least parts of rtcom-messaging-ui18:51
KotCzarnystill, emails are free18:51
erlehmannhttps://fi.linkedin.com/in/nabakumar18:52
erlehmannhttps://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Anjuta/Team#line-818:52
erlehmannI have a N900 phone; history messages are not shown upon entering an18:55
erlehmannJabber multi user chat. As you seem to have written at least part of18:55
erlehmannrtcom-messaging-ui, could you tell me if the application receives the18:55
erlehmannmessages and is just not displaying it or if the error lies deeper in18:55
erlehmannthe stack?18:55
erlehmannis that a good message?18:55
bencohI wouldnt expect much, but ...18:56
bencoh17:51 < KotCzarny> still, emails are free18:56
bencoh:)18:56
erlehmanni am also asking for source code19:03
merlin1991erlehmann: I'd let that slide19:04
erlehmannmerlin1991 what?19:04
merlin1991asking for source19:04
merlin1991there's not much point19:04
merlin1991we kept pestering nokia for some time about all source19:04
stryngsEmails are free?  Damn, AOL been ripping me off!19:04
bencoh:D19:04
stryngsWhat are ya'll paying per hour?19:04
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erlehmannmerlin1991 even if he has not source code, sometimes there can be useful information19:05
erlehmanni once re-implemented parts of a proprietary application because the author was so nice and gave me the header files19:05
erlehmannfor, err, study19:05
erlehmannmy reimplementation was online faster than his original was in the app store :D19:05
erlehmann(i am talking about libglitch)19:05
KotCzarnylol, i just made pygtk segfault19:07
erlehmannhow19:07
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KotCzarny./oscp-remote.py:204: Warning: g_object_get_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed19:07
KotCzarny  if(t==3): self.b_playpause.set_image(self.b_pause.get_image())19:07
erlehmann   The mail system19:07
KotCzarny./oscp-remote.py:204: Warning: g_type_get_qdata: assertion `node != NULL' failed19:07
KotCzarny  if(t==3): self.b_playpause.set_image(self.b_pause.get_image())19:07
KotCzarnySegmentation fault19:07
erlehmann<naba.kumar@nokia.com>: host demumfd001.nsn-inter.net[93.183.12.32] said: 55019:07
erlehmann    5.1.1 <naba.kumar@nokia.com>... Unknown user (in reply to RCPT TO command)19:07
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bencoherlehmann: is that a surprise to you ? :))19:08
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bencohhe seems to be an opensource developper, he prolly has a real mail address around19:08
KotCzarnymost likely he wont be able to fix the problem tho19:09
bencohyeah19:09
erlehmannhe has written the js parts of rtcom-messaging-ui19:09
erlehmannor at least he claims in source code ;)19:09
erlehmannthis thing renders a buffer19:10
bencoherlehmann: how do you know you receive the history and rtcom-messaging-ui just ignore it ?19:10
bencoh(you mentionned dbus-monitor)19:10
erlehmannbencoh dbus monitor shows the messages of type scrollback!19:10
erlehmannstart dbus monitor19:10
erlehmannjoin a MUC19:10
erlehmannyou will see the messages on dbus19:10
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bencohoh19:11
bencohso no need to patch telepathy-gabble ?19:11
erlehmannindeed19:11
erlehmannunless19:11
erlehmann      if (timestamp != 0)19:11
erlehmann        tp_message_set_boolean (message, 0, "scrollback", TRUE);19:11
erlehmannthis we could remove19:11
bencohremoving that is a kludge19:11
erlehmannyeah, but i see no other option, unless i can … wait.19:12
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erlehmanni'll try naba@gnome.org19:23
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KotCzarnyha!, squashed big bug20:00
KotCzarnyi love it20:00
erlehmannwhich one?20:02
erlehmannKotCzarny show and tell20:02
KotCzarnyin oscp-remote.py20:07
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kongHi!20:07
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KotCzarnyearlier when core closed the connection remote went into 100% cpu loop20:07
kongMy nokia n900 usb port is broken, i tryed to fix that using soldering iron. just mad it hot hopefully the connections getting fixed, now it looks like it works fine but i kept battery loading about 24h it stuck at ~75%! but it shows that its still loading20:09
kongis my battery damaged or still usb port failure?20:09
KotCzarnygrab the multimeter and check for shorts?20:10
KotCzarnyhmm, or maybe not, if there would be a short it would fry20:10
kongwould  not the loading cable get hot on short20:10
kong^^20:10
KotCzarnyhave you tried to turn it off and on again?20:11
KotCzarny;)20:11
kongthe orange led shows normal loading status20:11
kongbut is never green20:11
KotCzarnydoes it fade in/out or jsut stays lit?20:11
kongin/out20:12
KotCzarnymy n900 sometimes gets confused and lits orange no matter if i charge or not20:12
KotCzarnyi can generically hint you to discharge device fully then try to charge back20:12
kongok20:13
kongthx20:13
KotCzarnyor not fully, 10% and try to charge back20:14
KotCzarnyalso, install batteryeye20:14
KotCzarnyit will give you nice details battery/charge wise20:14
KotCzarnybattery-eye20:15
konggood idea ^^ thx20:15
kongim not sure, but cant me just take informations like in battery-eye using at commands?20:23
kongpnatd20:23
KotCzarnymaybe, but battery-eye gives you nice graphs too20:24
kongok. programm manager already loading :- )20:24
KotCzarnyalso, install fast application manager20:24
KotCzarny;)20:24
KotCzarnyif you didnt already20:24
Sicelofapman you mean?20:25
KotCzarnyyup20:25
Sicelo~fapman20:25
infobotrumour has it, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam20:25
KotCzarnyO.o20:25
KotCzarnyoh well20:26
kongyea, well!20:26
KotCzarnysicelo: is there any other application manager recommended nowadays?20:26
KotCzarny(luckily i havent had such problem with fam yet)20:27
kongis there already a working app for front camera?20:27
kongor something like pc-webcam?20:27
SiceloHAM :)20:28
KotCzarnyham?20:28
Sicelothe stock one, in short20:28
kongi wrote a c++ app for detecting faces using opencv from webcam pictures20:28
Sicelothere's a 'faster' version ... forgot its name .. merlin1991 has it it his repo20:28
KotCzarnyi think in stock fremantle you can just use /dev/video0 or video120:28
KotCzarnyand grab one frame using v4l2 api20:29
kongi want a app to take selfies :D20:29
merlin1991~speedyham20:29
infoboti guess speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb20:29
KotCzarnysicelo: so, no hopes? will i be stuck with apt-get and dpkg?20:29
KotCzarnymerlin1991: is it available for stock fremantle?20:30
merlin1991Probably not20:30
KotCzarnypity20:30
kongthere is no fapman in my list20:31
KotCzarnykong, apparently its not safe to use20:31
KotCzarnyheh, havent touched n900 since 200920:31
KotCzarny:>20:31
kongi love that phone20:31
KotCzarny:)20:31
kongstreaming movies to raspberry from it20:32
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kongtime server on n900 also not working! do anybody know where i could change it?20:52
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Sicelointall openntpd or ntpdate (not in repos however)20:52
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keriotime server?20:54
kongwhen i change in settings to "auto get time from internet" nothing happen, time keeps wrong20:55
KotCzarnyfellow coders, i've learnt new lesson today, never ever call close(0) without dup2'ing it into /dev/null first20:55
KotCzarnykong, grab ntpdate binary from debian-armel20:55
KotCzarnythen add to cron or something20:56
kongi dont understand!20:56
kerioKotCzarny: why not20:56
kerioif you're done reading...20:56
KotCzarnykerio, because if you ever open any file it will become descriptor 020:57
KotCzarnyhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/288062/is-close-fclose-on-stdin-guaranteed-to-be-correct20:57
keriooh lol20:57
KotCzarnyscroll to 'bad things happen' part20:58
kerioyeah yeah20:58
kerioactually, is that POSIX mandated behaviour?20:58
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kerioor just behaviour that would break things if changed20:58
KotCzarnybecoming descriptor 0? it's just code 'grab first available'20:58
keriobecause i can't really think of a reason to just skip the first three descriptors20:58
KotCzarnykerio, daemonizing20:59
KotCzarnyfor one example20:59
kerioyou can always dup() to get the file descriptor you want manually, i dunno20:59
keriomaybe i don't understand linux enough21:00
KotCzarnykerio, i just got burned by hardcoding descriptor 021:00
keriowell, that's stdin :>21:00
KotCzarnybecause fileno(stdin) returns 0 even if you close(0) before21:00
KotCzarnybut if i close(0) then open listening socket it becomes descriptor 021:01
KotCzarnythen if you have code that assumes 0 is stdin and tries to get key from it..21:02
KotCzarnyanyway, new day, new knowledge21:02
kongfast-application-manager says: some packages have unmet dependencies :D21:03
keriofapman is unsupported21:03
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bencohKotCzarny: fun bug :)21:08
KotCzarnybencoh, yeah.. trying to add daemonizing option to the interactive program21:08
KotCzarnyso, proper fix, instead of close(0); one shall use: int fd = open("/dev/null", O_WRONLY); dup2(fd, 0); close(fd);21:10
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KotCzarnysimilar fun with stdout and stderr21:13
KotCzarnyif you close(1) then have some socket bind to fdesc 1, then you have forgotten printf, it will output to that socket21:14
KotCzarnyyay for /dev/null!21:14
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stryngsAnyone have knowledge of bpf with maemo?22:56
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Kamping_KaiserHi all. I have a few issues and was going to report bugs. problem is i'm not sure which components are free/can have bugs reported and which aren't. is there a canonical list where i can check?23:06
stryngsPali: ping?23:10
Palistryngs: pong23:10
stryngsPali: bpf, it seems the kernel was not created with it in mind23:10
stryngstrying to do some packet sniffing and injection23:11
Paliwhich kernel?23:11
KotCzarnyisnt it bsd thing?23:11
KotCzarnyie. linux does iptables23:11
stryngsLinux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux23:11
stryngsBut in the code for packit, there is:23:11
stryngs    if(pcap_compile(pkt, &bpf, filter, 0, netmask) < 0)23:11
stryngs        fprintf(stderr, "\nWarning: Unable to compile packet filters: %s\n", pcap_geterr(pkt));23:11
Palisys_bpf() call was added to arm only now (3.19)23:11
stryngsSo, in laymans terms, not possible with n900?23:12
Palior it was ebpf call?23:12
Palido not rememebr23:12
KotCzarnypoh well, it's late, time to run before i say more stupid things23:13
stryngsPali: I take it, it's not possible on the n900 then?23:13
stryngsPali: Trying to make this a packet sniffer that greps for a given GET, and then injects =)23:13
stryngsBut most pre-written softwares die on the n900 with the filtering not working, and it works beautifully on a laptop23:13
Palicheck kernel power defconfig23:15
Palimaybe your needed option is just disabled23:15
PaliI do not know if it is possible on n900 with kernel power23:15
stryngskernel power defconfig doesn't work23:16
stryngsi have kernel-config23:16
stryngsand kernel-load23:16
Palidefconfig is kernel compile-time config file23:16
Palinothing related to kernel-load and etc23:16
stryngsis this going to be in the kp .deb file?23:17
stryngsPlz bear with, I am NOT a kernel person by ANY means or stretch of the imagination23:17
Palido not know23:17
stryngsOh23:17
Palicheck /proc/config.gz23:17
Palior /proc/config23:17
stryngsdoesnt exist =)23:17
Paliif not, you need to download sources and check it here23:17
stryngslooked there a while ago23:18
stryngsAh23:18
stryngsSo your're saying I might could enable it23:18
Palifirst you need to know what to enable23:18
Palitry to find on internet why your function fails23:18
Paliif it depends on some kernel feature CONFIG_<my_something>23:19
stryngsAll i've got is the sourcecode, google failed me23:19
Palithen this can be enabled/disabled at compile time23:19
stryngsAre there a list of available flags to throw  in the file?23:19
Palirx51_defconfig is filename in kernel-power source code23:20
Paliand each CONFIG is either enabled or commented23:20
stryngslooking here, yes? http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power-source/23:21
stryngsnot /kernel-power23:21
Paliits ok23:21
stryngsas in http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel-power/23:22
Paliunpack it and see23:22
stryngsk23:22
stryngsjust nervous pali =)23:22
stryngsIt's my only n90023:22
stryngshate messing with this low level stuff23:22
stryngsbut if i can fix it, ill try23:22
stryngsno dsc or tarball23:22
stryngsill just unpack .deb, eh?23:22
Paliyes23:22
Siceloyou have working USB port? flasher can load the resulting kernel & boot it without flashing, so you will be fine :)23:23
Paliand then unpack <path_to_unpacked_deb>/usr/src/kernel-power-source-2.6.28.10-power53.tar.bz223:23
stryngsSicelo: Even with my funky ass mounting?23:23
stryngsThis is exciting =)23:23
Palithen look into file kernel-power/arch/arm/configs/rx51_defconfig23:24
Palithis is that defconfig file ^^^23:24
stryngsdloading now =)23:24
stryngs 38,447,411   834.58K/s    ETA 00:3123:24
stryngs=)23:24
stryngsGood ole t-moble23:24
Paliok, thats all from me now23:25
Palibye23:25
stryngsthanks pali =)23:25
stryngsMUCH obliged23:25
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