IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2014-12-28

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bencohfreemangordon: I was playing with gstreamer/dspvdec (I'm using your "hd" gstdsp.so binary) and all of a sudden (been trying/playing different stuff for a few hours) I had a dsp MMU fault03:07
bencohand eventually I wasnt able to play any video with dspvdec03:08
bencoh(I can play videos again after rebooting)03:09
bencohany idea where the MMU fault came from ?03:10
bencohthat's basically all I could get from dmesg03:42
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lantiziaHey, the Maemo community works/worked with Nokia right - probably a specific division/department of Nokia... did that part of Nokia end up with MS or is it still Nokia?  In other words should Maemo feel in the future it *needs* to raise a query to the original authors - does that mean contacting an MS-owned company now?15:10
lantiziaI know MS bought the smartphone division - but I'm not sure if that included MeeGo / Maemo work - I'm guessing it included Symbian, although god knows why MS would want it15:10
keriolantizia: we did need to raise a query to the original authors15:12
keriowhen nokia wasn't even bought by MS yet15:12
keriowe got jack shit15:12
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freemangordonbencoh: I guess you don;t OC, correct?15:17
bencohI dont15:17
freemangordonbencoh: do you have SmartReflex enabled?15:17
bencohI do iirc15:18
freemangordonthat could be the reason15:18
freemangordonyou can workaround that(if SR is the reason)15:18
freemangordonBTW what kernel is that?15:18
bencohkp5215:18
freemangordoninstall KP5315:18
freemangordon:)15:18
freemangordon~kernel-power15:18
freemangordon~ping15:19
infobot~pong15:19
freemangordonhmm, WTF?15:19
kerioit's in extras-whatever15:19
freemangordon~kp15:19
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, kp is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9428715:19
bencohactually the stream is intentionally too "complex" for the n900 (h264 720x576, high profile afaik), but what's strange is I can play it if I dump it to a file (using filesrc ! ffdemux_mpegts ! dspvdec)15:20
freemangordonbencoh: "* Update patch overclock_smartreflex_900.diff to improve the stability on some rare devices"15:20
bencohbut I cant play it when streamed over http (souphttpsrc ! ffdemux_mpegts ! dspvdec)15:20
freemangordondo you have MMU fault everytime you try to play that?15:20
freemangordonas another possibility is you're hitting a bug in codec nodes15:21
bencoh(when I say I can "play" it with filesrc, I mean it will load it, play a few frames, and drop most of it because dsp is too slow ;)15:21
bencohhmm maybe15:21
freemangordonbencoh: temporarily disable SR and try again15:21
bencohyeah I got an mmu fault everytime I tried with http15:21
lantiziakerio, ok - a simpler question... the proprietary parts of maemo which we don't have - are they now assets of MS?15:22
bencohhmmkay I'll have a try at it - but first, time to eat :)15:22
freemangordonto check whether it is SR or something els15:22
bencohfreemangordon: thx :)15:22
freemangordone15:22
freemangordonNP15:22
bencohbtw, for those interested, I'm playing HLS on n900 ;)15:22
freemangordon~hls15:22
bencohhttp live streaming15:22
bencohthe apple thingy15:22
freemangordonhmm, isn;t that supported by default?15:23
freemangordonby media player?15:23
lantiziai thought he meant Half-Life: Source :P15:23
freemangordonhehe15:23
lantiziawas about the be very impressed15:23
freemangordonwhich reminds me - someday I should try compiling freespace2 for n90015:23
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bencohfreemangordon: nope, not that I know of :)15:24
bencohmore on the topic after lunch15:24
freemangordonok15:24
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keriolantizia: abandonware, clearly :>15:36
keriothey're (c) Nokia15:37
kerioand nokia was bought by MS15:37
kerioso microsoft owns them15:37
keriobut the agreement with the maemo community is still valid i think15:37
lantiziawell the source will exist somewhere... now presumably stored on a storage medium owned by MS15:37
keriowhere you have the right to redistribute (c)Nokia stuff to n900 owners15:37
keriooh, the source15:38
kerioi doubt they even know where it is15:39
lantiziaare there any distributions (other than android, I'm on about GNU/Linux distributions) that exist for N900 which don't use any of the proprietary parts maemo sometimes uses?15:39
lantiziakerio, well nokia wasn't bought by MS - their smartphone division was15:39
lantizianokia still exists today making android tablets apparently15:40
kerioamazing15:40
kerioi'm sure they'll have great success15:40
lantiziai suppose it all must be under MS (symbian, s40, s60, maemo, their version of meego, their Nokia android X range) as you'd have thought if MS was being picky they'd have left out anything android or linux to buy15:43
lantiziaso essentially Nokia only has one device, the N115:44
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lantiziai wonder if they went with a tablet because their agreement with MS prevents them from making mobile devices for a while15:44
lantiziawhich I guess a tablet is - but not cellular I guess15:44
lantiziaon closer look that tablet doesn't seem bad either - certainly not any old half baked effort15:51
sixwheeledbeastI agree I doubt any one knows where the source is.15:57
lantiziasixwheeledbeast, but you'd agree it'd now be MS that has forgotten (i.e. it's their source to loose)16:04
sixwheeledbeastdepends on the contracts I would think16:05
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lantiziasixwheeledbeast, well you'd think if they'd bought the entirely of their mobile division it'd include it - if they wanted to exclude parts they could have excluded Nokia X (the android stuff) and let Nokia continue with it16:06
lantiziathat is... unless the agreement prevents Nokia from making phones for a while16:06
sixwheeledbeast:shrug: the thing is who knows and how would that make a difference of getting it released.16:07
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keriowell i can reliably crash os x yosemite with backupmenu's "usb console" mode17:29
jon_ykernel crash?17:39
keriojon_y: eyup17:40
jon_ywow, I thought osx was supposed to be perfect :)17:40
keriocom.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDCECMData17:40
bencohohwell, looks like they dont like usb drivers ... 10.7.x randomly freezes with prolific (usbserial) drivers :)17:43
keriothe FTDI driver from FTDI legiterally just panics if you cut power to the remote end before unplugging the cable17:45
keriowhich is awful if you're tinkering with a sheevaplug17:45
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bencohkerio: bleh17:50
bencohI think there is a 3rd-party opensource driver17:51
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keriobencoh: in theory, os x has a driver17:51
bencohhm that was for pl2303 (prolific), nevermind17:51
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