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| Humpelstilzchen | systemd rocks http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html | 08:58 |
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| MrPingu | Had something weird yesterday | 12:11 |
| MrPingu | while I unplugged the charger it kept blinking and said charging in status-menu | 12:12 |
| MrPingu | Then after 2h of using, I power it off. But then it wouldn't boot up until I removed the battery... | 12:13 |
| MrPingu | Never had such thing on my daily N900 | 12:13 |
| MrPingu | before | 12:13 |
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| Oksana | I am angry like a snake... Read-only memory for MyDocs, then, as I do umount; fsck -af; the fsck says something about "truncating file to" because of "cluster chain length". And what does it mean, and how can I be sure that it will not obliterate important files? Off-topic: and that's on top of toothache... | 13:34 |
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| Oksana | And how long does it take to do an fsck -af of the MyDocs filesystem? Right now, it's not truncating anymore, but I cannot see any end, either. | 13:36 |
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| joga | I've had to do that a few times... it shouldn't take very long, probably <15min iirc | 13:42 |
| Oksana | Thanks! Mine seems to take a long time, though. Or, I am impatient. Did your bluetooth switch on just because you did umount of the partition? | 13:43 |
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| joga | uh.. no I don't recall such | 13:45 |
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| Oksana | Ah, that's MicroB's quirk. It cannot download file to MyDocs, therefore, it switches to Bluetooth, therefore, Bluetooth switches on :-) | 13:45 |
| Oksana | It's so pleasant when software's actions actually make sense :-) | 13:46 |
| kerio | joga: don't fsck from the n900 itself | 13:48 |
| kerio | unless you have the updated dosfstools | 13:48 |
| joga | dunno what I had but it's been working anyway | 13:48 |
| Oksana | Why not? | 13:48 |
| Oksana | And where are the updated dosfstools? | 13:49 |
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| Oksana | Does CSSU have updated dosfstools? And what's the bug with non-updated dosfstools? | 13:50 |
| Oksana | kerio... I do hope that I will jump through the hoops without encountering any problems, but I am still curious about their possible appearance. | 13:53 |
| kerio | Oksana: hell, i'd even skip the fsck from the n900 side entirely | 13:53 |
| kerio | and run it from a computer | 13:53 |
| hurrian | aw man, fsck on the N900 | 13:54 |
| Oksana | Hmm... Theoretically, I could do it through WiFi... WiFi works... But how, exactly, do I tell a Windows-or-Linux computer to check that partition on remote device? | 13:55 |
| hurrian | you're gonna have a bad time | 13:55 |
| Oksana | Why a bad time? | 13:55 |
| Oksana | Slow? | 13:55 |
| hurrian | yeah - terrible performance from the CPU, RAM and storage adds up | 13:55 |
| hurrian | it's way better to export the disk using backupmenu loaded from u-boot and fsck under gparted etc. | 13:56 |
| Oksana | How slow? I do not have microUSB port, so unless you know a way to check filesystem of a partition through WiFi... | 13:56 |
| Oksana | Bluetooth and cellular and FM are even less suited for the purpose than WiFi, I think. | 13:57 |
| hurrian | oh, I'm sorry | 13:57 |
| hurrian | in that case, use a fast microSD card as swap space, unmount MyDocs, fsck and hope for the best | 13:58 |
| bencoh | or boot from rescueOS (not sure it has dosfstools though) | 13:58 |
| Oksana | How long would it take, though? An hour? Four hours? I can take it. Shut down all radio, to save energy, and wait. | 14:00 |
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| Oksana | Closed all windows besides the XTerm with fsck -af, and waiting. | 14:05 |
| Oksana | Can fsck -af be interrupted in the middle of its run? And will the next run of fsck -af be faster-shorter for it? | 14:06 |
| Oksana | Just asking because battery is not infinite. | 14:06 |
| bencoh | hmm, why the -f ? | 14:07 |
| bencoh | are you sure it's what you want ? | 14:07 |
| bencoh | (hint: it's not "force" in fsck.msdos) | 14:07 |
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| Oksana | bencoh: Just following the example in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50556 | 14:14 |
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| bencoh | still not sure that's what you want, check the manpage | 14:15 |
| bencoh | (I have never tried it either, so ... I dunno) | 14:15 |
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| Oksana | So, what are your bets, what will reach its end first: fsck -af, or battery? The battery was fully charged, but, there was some WiFi and some Bluetooth switched on for some time. After first half-hour of fsck, all went into offline, the only window open is XTerm running the fsck. | 14:27 |
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| Oksana | Is it safe for the filesystem to do Ctrl+C to the fsck -af ? | 14:40 |
| bencoh | do you know if it's writing or just reading ? | 14:42 |
| bencoh | (iostat, strace, anything) | 14:43 |
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| crculver | Is there a way on Fremantle to run a service in /etc/event.d as user and not root? | 15:13 |
| crculver | I know that functionality was added to Upstart at some point, but it's not clear if the version of Upstart on the N900 allows that. | 15:13 |
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| crculver | Which SDK is the right one to install for developing for Fremantle nowadays, "Maemo SDK+" or "Maemo 5 Final SDK"? | 16:33 |
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| spoofy | Hello guys ;) | 18:28 |
| spoofy | First of all I would like to ask - from where I can download scratchbox image? | 18:28 |
| Sicelo | see links on /topic | 18:29 |
| spoofy | Sicelo: I'm talking about scratchbox for maemo ;) Can't find mirror for virtual machine image... | 18:33 |
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| crculver | The links in the /topic lead to wiki.maemo.org, which is a maze of broken links and out-of-date advice. | 19:08 |
| pigeons | well that's sort of the state of maemo | 19:09 |
| crculver | I just want to find out what SDK I should install from where, so that if most package maintainers have abandoned Maemo, I can at least package my own upgrades. | 19:12 |
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| RiD | Hey, a curious (and probably somewhat dumb) question.. | 19:34 |
| RiD | when you type alsamixer -c0 in x-terminal and set the headphone volume to 100, it still appears "dB -5.40" | 19:34 |
| RiD | Does this means we can still squeeze out 5.40dB from it, and if so, how? | 19:35 |
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| spoofy | crculver: same here | 20:21 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~sdk | 22:14 |
| infobot | methinks sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" | 22:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~sb | 22:14 |
| infobot | [scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 22:15 |
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