IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2014-10-24

Vajbstrange now fam can't find libperl at all00:00
Vajbtrying apt coz ham doesn't show lib's00:00
secDo you have the right repos enabled?00:01
Vajbi didn't change anything00:02
Vajbfirst it saw it and crashed when installing. After restaring it, it was gone00:02
Vajbupdated catalogs but no effect00:02
Vajbrestarting*00:03
sixwheeledbeastHang on speedyham doesnt need thumb00:03
sixwheeledbeastoh you said that00:03
Vajbhmm apt shows that it is installed....00:04
Sicelo900v6Vajb: libperl is in sdk repo, and downloads. nokia.com (don't konw if that still works)00:04
Vajbi found it in regular repo :o00:04
Sicelo900v6that means downloads.maemo.nokia.com still works :)00:04
sixwheeledbeastinfobot no speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb00:05
infobotokay, sixwheeledbeast00:05
Vajbdoes speedyham completely replace old ham? Or it just works at side of it?00:07
Vajbmean if i install will i have 3 package managers then...00:07
Sicelo900v6replaces00:07
Vajbok00:07
Sicelo900v6sixwheeledbeast: they optimized it, right?00:08
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Vajband it should work from that link even tho it points to thumb repo?00:08
Vajbi have just regular cssu stable here00:09
Sicelo900v6it's not pointing to thumb repo :)00:09
sixwheeledbeastSicelo900v6: Vajb: fixes to the stock application manager00:09
sixwheeledbeastyes00:09
sixwheeledbeast~fmg00:09
infobotmethinks fmg is the greatest00:09
Sicelo900v6~pali00:09
infobotpali is probably http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/00:09
sixwheeledbeastI wouldn't recommend the use of anything other than HAM or speedyHAM00:11
sixwheeledbeast~hamvsfam00:11
infobotrumour has it, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9322700:11
M4rtinKso how did you make it faster ? :)00:12
kerio~kerio00:12
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, kerio is <sixwheeledbeast> ah kerio, you beauty, or <DocScrutinizer51> u r right, or poettering killa00:12
M4rtinKor why was ham so slow ? :)00:12
sixwheeledbeastM4rtinK: fmg found poorly written code IIRC.00:13
sixwheeledbeast~slay systemd00:13
* infobot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, systemd!" apt lops off systemd's head.00:13
sixwheeledbeasthe believes it can be made faster too... :)00:16
Vajbsays that it's not compatible00:16
Vajbham says that speedyham is not compatible00:16
Sicelo900v6install manually00:17
Sicelo900v6obviously HAM will be 'jealous'00:17
Vajbhmm true00:20
bencohhaha00:22
bencohhmm, are you cherry-picking speedyham ?00:22
Vajbdependency problems00:24
sixwheeledbeastit would appear so yes.00:24
bencohbtw, I'm looking for a memleak in osso-systemui-tklock ... any idea where it could hide ?00:29
bencoh(I hope it's not hiding in systemui itself)00:30
Sicelo900v6depencies for installing speedyHAM? or libperl? what are they?00:30
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Vajbtwo actually00:34
Vajblibglib2-0.000:36
Vajblibglib2.0-0*00:36
Vajblibpixman-1-000:37
Vajbtoo old versions00:37
Vajbguess i have to enable some more repos00:37
Sicelo900v6those are wanted by speedyHAM?00:37
Vajbyes00:38
Sicelo900v6you said the device is on CSSU?00:38
Vajbyep cssu stable00:38
Sicelo900v6ok.00:38
Sicelo900v6install irssi with apt then :p00:39
Vajbi already installed new irssi :)00:40
Vajbjust didn't restart it yet00:40
Sicelo900v6ok ;)00:41
Vajbirssi installed just fine after apt install libperl5.800:41
* Sicelo900v6 must move his N900 to thumb now00:43
Vajbbtw is it possible to get same battery info visible on menu as seen on thumb?00:45
Vajbit shows percent and mah left00:45
Sicelo900v6yes. i have that.. don't remember if it came with cssu-testing or what..00:47
Sicelo900v6but anyway, g'nite everyone00:48
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Vajbi see. Nite Sicelo900v600:50
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zGrrmoin :)12:35
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Vajbcould anyone check that perl script for dcc behind nat? It accepts my setting for interface. Shows my right ip, but dcc isn't working still.12:49
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Vajbit's here http://scripts.irssi.org dcc_ip.pl12:53
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SiceloVajb: i don't think that script is expected to work for NAT13:21
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Siceloyou see .. NAT also tends to block incoming ports always (and in fact, that was one of the 'good' things about it .. that a regular user does not need to worry too much about configuring their own firewall)13:22
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Sicelogenerally the only way to break out of NAT is via a tunnel of some sort .. e.g. vpn13:26
Siceloof course, for your own router which implements NAT, you can port-forward, but you can't do that for your operator.13:27
Sicelothat said, maybe if you ask them nicely :)13:27
SiceloVodacom (South Africa) does have option to request opening of all incoming ports13:28
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obsedstun?13:47
Vajbhmm i see. thx for the info. Guess i'll just deal without :)14:09
obseddoesnt voip STUN deal with nat14:09
obsedVajb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN "STUN (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT) is a standardized set of methods and a network protocol to allow an end host to discover its public IP address if it is located behind a NAT. It is used to permit NAT traversal for applications of real-time voice, video, messaging, and other interactive IP communications.14:10
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Vajbhmm that's anything but clear17:26
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Vajbpermalink.gmane.org/gmane.network.irc.irssi.devel/188 what about this patch?17:37
Vajbnvm forgot that my irssi version is way older than that patch17:39
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Vajb+ mediaplayer finally did what it does (suddenly stops playing after few minutes) and gave nothing for poor old syslog17:46
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SiceloSTUN is not 'general purpose'.. afaik you can't use it for IRC.21:00
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Siceloalso, it relies on a STUN server ..21:06
Siceloand Vajb, the irssi i compile is the latest .. 0.8.17. the one on that link is older. i wonder why the guy didn't upstream his patch21:08
Vajboh i see21:12
Vajbdid u look at the patch?21:12
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Sicelonot the contents.. just what he says21:18
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Vajbbut now i have bigger problem21:19
Vajbapt is messed because of speedy ham install21:20
Vajbor rather coz it got cancelled because of unmet dependencies21:20
Vajbit suggest -f install, but with that it want's to uninstall lots of stuff21:21
Vajbcommunity-ssu-enabler and hildon-application-manager21:22
Sicelopastebin your repo lists21:22
Vajbshould i continue and install them back21:22
Vajbi have just extras and normal nokia repos enabled21:23
Sicelomaybe ask sixwheeledbeast, pali or fmg if speedyham is expected to work fine on cssu-stable. i'm on testing, although it's possible i started using speedyham while still on stable21:26
Siceloi don't remember too well now21:26
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Vajbok will do tomorrow.21:33
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Vajbactually fixed it right now22:48
Sicelogreat :)22:48
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Vajbmeans having stock ham :)23:03
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Vajbjust switched to open media player23:18
Vajbmaybe it will prove to be more reliable23:19
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