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| capsul | Hello mate"! | 13:02 |
| capsul | hello maemo community :) | 13:02 |
| capsul | little question about nokia n900 | 13:02 |
| capsul | i bought new battery for it | 13:03 |
| capsul | but all time , when i change it , that reset date and hour | 13:03 |
| capsul | do you know application/packet/script | 13:03 |
| capsul | wich can refresh date from wireless connection ? | 13:04 |
| bencoh | would you please turn color off ? | 13:04 |
| bencoh | :) | 13:04 |
| capsul | sry about this , it's @¤ù^$ù client mirc | 13:04 |
| capsul | no xchat or irssi , i will try to get out this | 13:05 |
| capsul | but do u know any solution about my prob ? :D | 13:05 |
| bencoh | n900 should be able to get time sync from the phone network ... depending on the network operator | 13:06 |
| capsul | hmm | 13:06 |
| capsul | okey | 13:06 |
| Sicelo | yes bencoh. it's in the menu | 13:06 |
| bencoh | Sicelo: it's just that sometimes, it fails/it's off | 13:07 |
| * Sicelo can't see what capsul is writing too, and not in the mood to change my color just for that | 13:07 | |
| bencoh | like ... one day off :] | 13:07 |
| bencoh | I dunno why | 13:07 |
| * capsul thank you bencoh and Sicelo ,and pardon for color,last time i come here with this client :D | 13:07 | |
| Sicelo | bencoh: your TZ is correct? blame your operator. i know a few times our operator here broke their time settings :) | 13:08 |
| Sicelo | you can cofirm that it's your operator by checking on another phone.. most likely the times will be off on it too | 13:08 |
| bencoh | Sicelo: yup, it is (correct) | 13:09 |
| bencoh | right now it works but it's 70sec ahead (!) | 13:10 |
| bencoh | (compared to a ntp-synced server) | 13:10 |
| bencoh | I guess I just cant trust them :) | 13:11 |
| Sicelo | capsul: your battery is loose inside the N900 | 13:14 |
| Sicelo | carefully extend the contact pins on the battery | 13:15 |
| Sicelo | ah, lol.. i misunderstood you | 13:15 |
| Sicelo | you switch between batteries? then yes, known flaw in N900 | 13:16 |
| Sicelo | ~bupbat | 13:16 |
| infobot | hmm... bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/Art-2112777-TAIYO-YUDEN-PAS414HR-VA5R-KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864 | 13:16 |
| Sicelo | capsul: ^^ | 13:16 |
| Sicelo | get an operator who sends reliable time update (not like bencoh's, :P ) | 13:16 |
| Sicelo | you can make your own ntp script.. N900 has ntpdate | 13:17 |
| Sicelo | * in the repos | 13:19 |
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| * capsul yeah Sicelo :D i will make this , but not now (that will take me a few hours ;) but i try to come back with irssi , but n900 doesn't want know anything about connection .. | 13:33 | |
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| * capsul i have other question :p but i can't askwith this client ^^^ | 13:34 | |
| * capsul ... just something about root session ... | 13:35 | |
| * capsul not ... we can launch irssi from xterminal ? | 13:37 | |
| * capsul not lauch , connect | 13:37 | |
| * capsul not launch , connect | 13:37 | |
| bencoh | what ? | 13:38 |
| * capsul my irssi didn't work :( | 13:38 | |
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| * capsul it told me [IP of freenode] port 6667 | 13:39 | |
| * capsul but after , nothing | 13:39 | |
| Sicelo | irssi works fine one N900. | 13:39 |
| * capsul i try to launch with root , with out root , with application ... | 13:39 | |
| Sicelo | don't run it as root | 13:40 |
| * capsul last time yes , but now :/ strange | 13:40 | |
| bencoh | *never* run irssi as root | 13:40 |
| capsul | ^^^ | 13:40 |
| bencoh | your network might just be blocking this port | 13:40 |
| bencoh | network operator* | 13:40 |
| * capsul i will try xchat | 13:40 | |
| capsul | ^^with xchat -___- | 13:41 |
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| capsul | same with xchat ... do u know equivalent to iptables ?? | 13:42 |
| * capsul same problem with xchat ... do u know equivalent to iptables ?? | 13:42 | |
| capsul | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 13:42 |
| * capsul sry -_____- about wireless .... | 13:42 | |
| capsul | i will be back D | 13:43 |
| capsul | :D | 13:43 |
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| Sicelo | N900 has iptables as well.. but | 13:44 |
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| user____ | re ! | 13:44 |
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| Sicelo | anyway, i would test with telnet to be sure | 13:45 |
| capsul | what is telnet ? | 13:45 |
| capsul | do u know application similar to julius (speech to text) , on mamemo ? | 13:48 |
| capsul | i need to convert mp3 (with speech) to text file | 13:49 |
| capsul | and packet suggest by my google search is not right on naemo atp-get | 13:50 |
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| jon_y | capsul: telnet is the predecessor of ssh | 14:04 |
| jon_y | it connects to tcp ports | 14:04 |
| jon_y | sort of like netcat | 14:05 |
| capsul | thx jon_y | 14:08 |
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| Capsul_Clone | do you know where i can find channel about irc script ?! | 14:17 |
| * Capsul_Clone oops | 14:17 | |
| Luke-Jr | d? | 14:17 |
| capsul | i would get out message from people who live/come on channel | 14:18 |
| capsul | because my screen is really small and this messages take 2 lines each time | 14:19 |
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| stryngs | aria2c available for download for maemo if anyone interested | 15:51 |
| stryngs | very fast and does torrents =) | 15:51 |
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| Sicelo | Capsul_Clone: most irc clients allow you to turn off joins & parts .. no need for script. xchat & irssi do that | 18:07 |
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| Ras_Older | irssi <3 | 18:41 |
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| * stryngs wishes irssi for maemo had perl support for scripts built-in | 19:02 | |
| stryngs | =( | 19:02 |
| Sicelo | yep.. that was the reason i installed SB, trying to build that... however it's a big PITA to build irssi there .. something to do with the versions of perl in the sdk | 19:05 |
| Sicelo | maybe you'll have better luck. | 19:07 |
| Sicelo | bug #1954 | 19:14 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/1954 Scratchbox makes building extensions to target Perl, Python etc awkward | 19:14 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, seems to be building now :) | 19:46 |
| * Sicelo crossing his fingers | 19:46 | |
| Sicelo | stryngs: seems it's buildable after all.. just needed to understand this better | 19:50 |
| Sicelo | Shapeshifter conversations helped a lot -- http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-07-28.log.html | 19:51 |
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| Sicelo | now.. learn how to package this properly to help others :) | 20:16 |
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| Ras_Older | Talking about irssi, I don't mean to brag but "[20:21:45] Irssi: Uptime: 1059d 6h 33m 34s" :'D | 20:22 |
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| Sicelo | gawd! | 20:22 |
| stryngs | Sicelo hmm | 20:24 |
| stryngs | Reading, you have it built with script support now? | 20:24 |
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| stryngs | Ras_Older: You haven't rebooted your n900 in 1059days? | 20:28 |
| Ras_Older | pfft nah man :D I have my irssi running elsewhere. N900 has to be reboot atleast once a week. | 20:29 |
| stryngs | Ah | 20:29 |
| * stryngs is attempting to package pip as a .deb | 20:29 | |
| Sicelo | stryngs: yes. | 20:30 |
| stryngs | Sicelo: what syntax did you use if you don't mind? | 20:30 |
| stryngs | I'd prefer to build from source as well | 20:31 |
| stryngs | Unless your going to upstream to source? | 20:31 |
| Sicelo | since you build on N900, you probably don't need anything funky .. otherwise it is just straightforward ./configure --with-perl=module (or yes if you like that) | 20:31 |
| stryngs | --with-perl=module | 20:32 |
| stryngs | i tried that | 20:32 |
| stryngs | --with-perl=module i did not try | 20:32 |
| stryngs | one sec, lemme grab source | 20:32 |
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| Sicelo | i want to try build 0.8.17 now. had built 0.8.14 | 20:33 |
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| stryngs | checking for working Perl support... error linking with perl libraries, building without Perl | 20:34 |
| stryngs | ../configure --prefix=/usr --with-perl=yes | 20:35 |
| stryngs | for 0.8.17 | 20:35 |
| stryngs | Building with Perl support ....... : NO! - Error linking with perl libraries: -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib/perl/5.8/CORE -lperl -ldl -lm -lpthread -lcrypt: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl | 20:35 |
| stryngs | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status - Try: sudo apt-get install libperl-dev | 20:35 |
| stryngs | E: Couldn't find package libperl-dev | 20:35 |
| Sicelo | check your repos | 20:36 |
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| stryngs | got all 3 enabled, i wonder if in sb, and if in sb, then is it proper for the n900 or if it will look for /scratchbox | 20:36 |
| Sicelo | you need the SDK repo | 20:36 |
| stryngs | Yeah, but sometimes when going for sdk it demands /scratchbox when executing binaries | 20:36 |
| stryngs | ill try | 20:37 |
| stryngs | Heh, my main thing right now is I want to apt-get install pip =) | 20:37 |
| stryngs | but im having to do easy_install | 20:37 |
| stryngs | build pip | 20:37 |
| stryngs | and trace all files created | 20:37 |
| stryngs | royal pain in the ass | 20:37 |
| stryngs | I tell u what though, yesterday was the first time I ever saw the value added benefit of scratchbox | 20:38 |
| stryngs | It took my n900 over 3 hrs to compile aria2c | 20:39 |
| stryngs | 3 hrs! | 20:39 |
| Sicelo | glad you're getting somewhere :) | 20:39 |
| stryngs | yeah, but i prolly will have to go with SB one day | 20:39 |
| stryngs | The confounding part for me is the Depends: line for packages | 20:40 |
| stryngs | Not sure how to trace what u need when building on another box | 20:40 |
| Sicelo | i don't see any problem with SB. does what it was meant for really | 20:40 |
| stryngs | I do all my development on the same box, so i just make a meta package that contains a list of all debs installed on my system =) | 20:40 |
| stryngs | Do you create .debs Sicelo? | 20:40 |
| stryngs | If so I would really love some of your input then | 20:41 |
| Sicelo | no. i don't know all that. i'm reading up on it just now. | 20:41 |
| stryngs | Ah | 20:41 |
| stryngs | It's confounding | 20:41 |
| stryngs | I do it the "cheater" way | 20:41 |
| stryngs | but it works | 20:41 |
| stryngs | heres a quick 123 | 20:41 |
| Sicelo | lol. doesn't seem so from the little i've got so far | 20:41 |
| Sicelo | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Package_Building_HOWTO has some nice steps | 20:42 |
| stryngs | grab source, cd to source, mkdir build, cd build, ../configure --prefix=/usr, make, make install DESTDIR=/root/deb, cd /root/deb, mkdir DEBIAN, cd DEBIAN, create your control file, cd /root, dpkg-deb -b deb . | 20:42 |
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| stryngs | wow, thats dead simple | 20:44 |
| stryngs | heh, wish i could have found that sooner | 20:44 |
| stryngs | I just wish it could run native =) | 20:44 |
| Sicelo | hehe | 20:44 |
| stryngs | the proper package building and all | 20:44 |
| Sicelo | SB is faster.. don't know why I'd want to build natively. | 20:45 |
| stryngs | Because I build in my offtime at work | 20:46 |
| stryngs | and I don't bring my laptop to work | 20:46 |
| stryngs | But my n900 is just a phone | 20:46 |
| stryngs | .... =) | 20:46 |
| stryngs | little bit of putty and some ssh, and im on the n900 | 20:46 |
| Sicelo | can ssh to your box at home? | 20:46 |
| stryngs | my buildbox is my laptop and that is always beside me in my backpack | 20:47 |
| stryngs | BUT, that might be an idea | 20:47 |
| stryngs | creating a VM to pop to just for this... | 20:47 |
| stryngs | hmm | 20:47 |
| Sicelo | i have vm for it as well, although i probably couldhave installed 'natively' | 20:47 |
| stryngs | yeah, i dont like how it interacts with / which is the "main" reason its not on my current OS | 20:48 |
| stryngs | the 2nd part was I never really found a good howto for building .debs before, until u showed me this for the n900 specifically | 20:48 |
| stryngs | The main part that confounds me is this though | 20:48 |
| stryngs | needed packages and whatnot | 20:48 |
| stryngs | how do u know what to put on the Depends line =) | 20:48 |
| stryngs | even that tutorial says "Figuring out Build-Depends: is currently left as an exercise for the reader | 20:50 |
| stryngs | But, I must say, having been shown this little treasure, I have no excuse not to create an ssh'able SB now | 20:50 |
| Sicelo | great. | 20:51 |
| stryngs | Hah, i've built so much for the damn n900 already natively | 20:52 |
| stryngs | curl http://termbin.com/ykuo | 20:54 |
| stryngs | =) | 20:54 |
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| M4rtinK | stryngs: willing to build a small thing for me when you are at it ? :) | 20:59 |
| stryngs | whats that? | 20:59 |
| stryngs | I can build natievly all day long, just depends if the depends are in place | 20:59 |
| * stryngs likes being helpful | 21:00 | |
| M4rtinK | my Maemo 5 SDK is kinda toast at the moment, so it would really help :) | 21:00 |
| M4rtinK | basically this: https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/pyotherside | 21:00 |
| M4rtinK | it needs Qt 5 & Python, both of which should be available | 21:01 |
| M4rtinK | *Python 3 | 21:01 |
| M4rtinK | Python 3 is IIRC even in Extras-Devel | 21:01 |
| M4rtinK | as for Qt 5: http://wiki.maemo.org/Qt5-Maemo5 | 21:02 |
| stryngs | http://thp.io/2011/pyotherside/pyotherside-1.3.0.tar.gz | 21:02 |
| stryngs | that? | 21:02 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 21:02 |
| M4rtinK | it is kinda tiny actually | 21:02 |
| M4rtinK | as for why I need it | 21:02 |
| M4rtinK | it is a dependency for the Qt 5 GUI of the modRana navigation system | 21:02 |
| M4rtinK | so far only the GTK & old Qt 4 based GUI can run on the N900 | 21:03 |
| M4rtinK | and I can't PyOtherSide myself due to the broken SDK | 21:03 |
| stryngs | I think I tried to build something that required qmake a while back | 21:04 |
| stryngs | and i had those same issues, the project wasn't a necessity, so i just put it off to the side | 21:04 |
| stryngs | And since I rock 9gb on /, i wouldn't mind having access to it honestly | 21:04 |
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| user | evening all | 21:16 |
| stryngs | hi | 21:16 |
| user | hi stryngs | 21:16 |
| user | i looking for API wich can translate audio speech file (mp3) to text | 21:17 |
| user | i'm looking for API wich can translate audio speech file (mp3) to text | 21:18 |
| user | do you know something about this ? | 21:18 |
| user | i think it's my best chance to can translate my english book of magic :) | 21:19 |
| user | i can't scan all page of book .. too long and boring :( but if i read for after translate ! that is wonderful , i will can train my english too | 21:21 |
| * Sicelo has no idea. you will be doing this on N900? | 21:23 | |
| * stryngs recommends Siri | 21:25 | |
| stryngs | =) | 21:25 |
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| Sicelo | haha | 21:28 |
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| stryngs | capsul: Do NOT let Siri know you are using an N900 though, she'll go crazy and try to kill you. | 21:32 |
| stryngs | True story | 21:32 |
| capsul | yess with n900 ;) but i download saera and ... very diffult to use it when u are frenchee with wonderful accent -__- | 21:33 |
| capsul | it use little ..... spoon???! | 21:33 |
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| Sicelo | stryngs: if you'd like to get the irssi i've built, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1443068#post1443068 | 22:15 |
| stryngs | cool | 22:16 |
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| Sicelo | I see I don't have a .desktop file, so no shortcut in applications menu | 22:27 |
| Sicelo | meh.. will do that later | 22:27 |
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| Sicelo | and also have to optify | 22:31 |
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