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| freemangordon | hmm, is location widget supposed to launch ovi maps when clicked? | 01:27 |
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| drathir | re | 02:07 |
| drathir | mplayer+mpv support at n900 will be great... | 02:07 |
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| kerio | no it won't | 02:08 |
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| drathir | kerio: i know not possible gpu accelerate... | 02:09 |
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| drathir | kerio: but from console always most smoothly play at linux there not always because of not hw acceleration, but me mostly play audio from console minus of that sometimes mplayer freeze... | 02:14 |
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| drathir | Pali: there is possible tp chose which item in boot menu is default marked? | 03:06 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: I assumed so yes | 09:51 |
| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: could you try it? | 09:57 |
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| Pali | drathir: I do not remember | 10:57 |
| Pali | need to look at source code | 10:57 |
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| * jonwil has just about finished pulling location-proxy to bits | 11:10 | |
| * jonwil now understands pretty much exactly what its doing | 11:10 | |
| * freemangordon_ is about to finish nm-navigation provider | 11:11 | |
| jonwil | great | 11:12 |
| drathir | Pali: ok thank a lot its no problem, if You will have some free time to check i will be apreciated,ofc this isnt very important no rush needed... | 11:12 |
| freemangordon_ | yep, everything works on the device, I need to do one more function, which does the network connection (conn_ic_connect), but that is easy | 11:13 |
| drathir | jonwil: location-proxy mean assist of tracking by phone network location? | 11:14 |
| jonwil | Whats your next target after nm-navigation-provider? | 11:14 |
| jonwil | location-proxy handles AGPS | 11:14 |
| jonwil | more specifically it acts as a proxy between the cellular modem and the supl server | 11:14 |
| drathir | jonwil: nokia.suspl or something similar if good remember? | 11:14 |
| jonwil | yes | 11:15 |
| jonwil | With the info I have posted and will be posting enough information will be known to replace the N900 GPS subsystem for the Neo900 and keep all the users of it (including nokia-maps) working 100% | 11:15 |
| * drathir wonder if provider share location of bts publically or only for nokia positioning server use only... | 11:16 | |
| drathir | eg. google maps in old e51 show correct the closest one bts w/o gps available... | 11:18 |
| jonwil | I think the tower locations are sent by the towers | 11:20 |
| jonwil | and the SUPL server has no knowledge of that | 11:21 |
| jonwil | the SUPL server seems to be a faster way to pull down certain data that would otherwise be pulled from the slow GPS satellite link | 11:21 |
| jonwil | Before I can finish location-proxy I need to reverse engineer whatever handles com.nokia.Location.UI (probably location-home-item.so) | 11:22 |
| jonwil | and work out the dbus stuff for that | 11:22 |
| jonwil | I also need to dig back into wappushd | 11:22 |
| jonwil | since location-proxy uses that | 11:22 |
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| mortak | hi all | 11:28 |
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| mortak | are there any premade projects to use my old n900 into a bluetooth audio reciever? (to use it in my car with aux output). i searched the webs but didn't found anything so far. | 11:34 |
| mortak | s/into/as | 11:34 |
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| freemangordon_ | jonwil: not sure, Pali asked me to RE jabber-plugin, maybe that one | 12:05 |
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| jonwil | you could target some of the things the Neo900 FPTF project needs... | 12:08 |
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| freemangordon_ | jonwil: sure | 12:20 |
| freemangordon_ | but I am CSSU developer still :) | 12:21 |
| drathir | jonwil: gz for skills and good work... | 12:21 |
| freemangordon_ | jonwil: do you have a concrete candidate (re fptf needs)? | 12:21 |
| drathir | jonwil: i know that tower sending LAC + Cell ID but even dont think that bts could send to phone gps coordinates of own location too... i known that is possible to locate the tower by netmon, but not think and sure the apps like google maps can do that... | 12:25 |
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| * drathir even at 3210i plays with detect towers in area, and connect by hand to chosed one when all ppl dont have net because bts problems i have connectin to more far away one (ppl cant because broken on have stronger signal and calls+sms works) | 12:27 | |
| drathir | little missing that powerfull net monitor which was in the 3210i... | 12:29 |
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| jonwil | freemangordon_:sysinfo* would be a worthwhile target that would help FPTF | 12:32 |
| freemangordon_ | jonwil: may RE it | 12:34 |
| freemangordon_ | well, most probably will :) | 12:34 |
| jonwil | osso-applet-device also looks useful for FPTF | 12:35 |
| jonwil | since the info it displays will need to change | 12:35 |
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| jonwil | do you know of any kernel interfaces (e.g. /sys/blah or the like) that are going to be different on the Neo900? | 12:54 |
| freemangordon_ | most of them :) | 12:54 |
| freemangordon_ | upstream kernel that is ;) | 12:54 |
| freemangordon_ | bbl | 12:55 |
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| jonwil | ok | 12:56 |
| jonwil | oh something else that would be REALLY helpful to me right now would be a reverse engineering of the GPS status bar widget (something I will probably have to start playing around with soon if I am to figure out this GPS stuff) | 12:57 |
| drathir | jonwil: You know maybe how to force sync time from gps at n900? | 13:00 |
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| jonwil | Don't think N900 can use GPS for time | 13:33 |
| jonwil | it can pull time from cellular network though | 13:33 |
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| drathir | jonwil: Yes from cellurar too, but not sure it also w/o that synchro time/date by gps, but not sure that atm... | 13:34 |
| jonwil | given that GPS is part of the cellular modem its possible cellular modem firmware can get time from GPS as well as from cellular network | 13:36 |
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| wnd | I don't really know why N900 does not get the time from GPS. Back then it was part of the plan. Maybe it's a timezone issue of sorts, I really have no clue. | 13:39 |
| wnd | then again, I think they explicitly wanted/had to hide cellular link info from userspace | 13:40 |
| wnd | I mean, to give info only about the station the radio was currently talking with | 13:41 |
| drathir | wnd: gps is much power drain... and gps satellite sync take some time too sadly... | 13:42 |
| Pali | you can read gps time with one of that closed location library | 13:43 |
| wnd | I know that, but if and once you have the fix, why not take full advantage of it? | 13:43 |
| Pali | see location-gui app | 13:43 |
| drathir | wnd: no info about priority of sync sadly... | 13:43 |
| Pali | anyway it would be cool to have support for NTP or gps time in clockd daemon | 13:44 |
| Pali | but that daemon is closed :-( | 13:44 |
| jonwil | I would reverse engineer it but its too complex for me to do | 13:47 |
| jonwil | clockd that is | 13:47 |
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| ShadowJK | gps recorder syncs system time to gps | 14:40 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: Yes, touching the map in the location widget opens ovi maps application | 15:19 |
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| jonwil | damn, I cant find who handles com.nokia.location.ui | 15:39 |
| jonwil | liblocation seems to do something with it, let me check there | 15:40 |
| jonwil | aha wait its location-ui.launch | 15:40 |
| jonwil | I thought it was location-home-applet | 15:40 |
| jonwil | might have to play with sending things to location-ui via dbus-send and see what happens | 15:43 |
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| jonwil | bah this is annoying. | 16:33 |
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| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: thanks, it started to work here as well, after a reboot :) | 18:32 |
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| freemangordon | shit, seems ovi tiles have alpha channel and stock nm-navigation-provider cannot deal with it :) | 19:36 |
| freemangordon | Sep 24 19:37:03 Nokia-N900 nm-nav-provider[9281]: GLIB CRITICAL ** default - _pixops_scale_real: assertion `!(src_has_alpha && !dest_has_alpha)' failed | 19:40 |
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| Ras_Older | http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/650 FYI | 21:52 |
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| FreemantleKid | 'evening guys :) | 22:30 |
| stryngs | So..... bash.... | 22:40 |
| stryngs | I wonder how much stuff on the maemo side is vuln | 22:40 |
| FreemantleKid | ? | 22:42 |
| FreemantleKid | what do you mean? | 22:42 |
| stryngs | the bash bug | 22:43 |
| FreemantleKid | ?it i new for me | 22:43 |
| FreemantleKid | is* | 22:44 |
| FreemantleKid | source?link? the bash version is vulnerable? | 22:44 |
| stryngs | http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/2hbxtc/cve20146271_remote_code_execution_through_bash/ | 22:45 |
| FreemantleKid | i'm here to find out some info about harmattan and the N9, one the things i wanted to ask was about upgrading existing software | 22:45 |
| FreemantleKid | ok so it's not a harmattan bug,it's a bash one | 22:45 |
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| FreemantleKid | i was wondering if is it possible to pgrade apt-get.. | 22:50 |
| FreemantleKid | is itpossible? | 22:50 |
| FreemantleKid | cause old software we know can be easy exploited | 22:50 |
| NIN101 | maemo is full of old software | 22:50 |
| NIN101 | and full of exploits thus too | 22:50 |
| FreemantleKid | i think you mean even the system one is | 22:51 |
| FreemantleKid | ok | 22:51 |
| FreemantleKid | so any way to get the system software be updated? | 22:51 |
| NIN101 | well, I compile openssl and openssh myself | 22:52 |
| stryngs | compile =) | 22:52 |
| NIN101 | but that's not nearly enough for a secure system. | 22:52 |
| * stryngs nods at NIN101 | 22:52 | |
| stryngs | I make my own debs | 22:52 |
| stryngs | one at a time... | 22:52 |
| FreemantleKid | wait i'm pretty noob,how you compile?have you a script for doing that specifically for harmattan? | 22:52 |
| NIN101 | oh you were talking about harmattan. | 22:53 |
| FreemantleKid | ys | 22:53 |
| NIN101 | well there certainly is no script that compiles for you. | 22:54 |
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| FreemantleKid | any N9 owner here? | 23:37 |
| Sicelo | FreemantleKid: you sure your questions don't have answers on the forum? there is a search function there, and i would like to suppose you'll get at least 80% answers | 23:42 |
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| FreemantleKid | user experience it's not in forum.. | 23:45 |
| FreemantleKid | that i need: some experience of somebody sing&hacking the N9 | 23:46 |
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| FreemantleKid | on the forum there are guides,but just on some random post you can find alittle about they usage | 23:46 |
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