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| CapsuL | re | 03:07 |
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| CapsuL | do u know something about QT4 ?? when i want install some application from N900 market , it told me u"u need linrary like : libq4t-* ... | 03:13 |
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| CapsuL | all time the wall , same problem.. | 04:03 |
| CapsuL | how can i install QT4 on my nokia n900 , i need libqt4-* for rdownload and install some application ... | 04:05 |
| CapsuL | help me plz | 04:05 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 10:55 |
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| freemangordon | M4rtinK: ping | 11:55 |
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| M4rtinK | freemangordon: pong | 12:12 |
| freemangordon | M4rtinK: I am REing nm-navigation-provider (the one that is used for geo-tagging, etc) and I hit a tile download function which does some lat/long to tile coordinates etc transformations. I need help to grok what it is doing :) | 12:14 |
| jonwil | me, I will shortly be posting some great info on libisi, libisi-glib and the cellular modem interfaces :) | 12:15 |
| freemangordon | M4rtinK: I *guess* it uses mercator coordinates, but what troubles me, is that there http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Slippy_map_tilenamesfor example, the coordinate transfor uses cos(), which I don't see in Nokia code | 12:16 |
| M4rtinK | well, I was about to point you to that wiki :) | 12:16 |
| M4rtinK | AFAIK, the Here maps always used the web mercator | 12:17 |
| freemangordon | here == ovi? | 12:17 |
| M4rtinK | yeah | 12:17 |
| M4rtinK | I remember checking out their tile naming scheme back then and it was fairly standard web mercator | 12:18 |
| jonwil | which function in nm-navigation-provider are you stuck on? | 12:18 |
| freemangordon | well, it uses mercator, but nm-nav... seems to do some tricks to download more than one 256x256 tile per request | 12:18 |
| jonwil | I can take a look quick and see if I can see anything | 12:18 |
| M4rtinK | as for the tile naming algorithm, I'm sure there are more ways to do the coordinate conversions | 12:18 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: the one that downloads tiles from ovi maps | 12:18 |
| jonwil | whats the address? | 12:18 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: it is a part of a bigger "thread" function | 12:19 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: I can give you the DB, it has everything needed | 12:19 |
| jonwil | yes please | 12:19 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: just a sec | 12:19 |
| M4rtinK | also if you are just working with the binary, the compiler might have just "optimized" the cos to something it thinks is faster | 12:19 |
| freemangordon | could be, but tan() and log() are not optimized | 12:20 |
| freemangordon | neither is pow() | 12:20 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, these are the algorithms modRana uses for tile coordinates: https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana/blob/master/core/tilenames.py | 12:21 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: http://46.249.74.23/nm-nav/ | 12:22 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: ping when ready to remove it | 12:22 |
| jonwil | ok, got it | 12:22 |
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| jonwil | so which function/part do I want to be looking at? | 12:23 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: ok to remove it? | 12:23 |
| jonwil | yes remove it | 12:23 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: navigation_thread_func | 12:23 |
| jonwil | which bit of code is the bit you are stuck on? | 12:23 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: case GetMapTile: | 12:24 |
| freemangordon | M4rtinK: the point is that "GetMapTile" has parameters: | 12:24 |
| freemangordon | lon, lat, zoom, width, height | 12:24 |
| freemangordon | M4rtinK: I have NFC what those width and height could be used for | 12:25 |
| freemangordon | *maybe* they download more than one tile, merge those and scale the result to fit in w/h | 12:26 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: ^^^ | 12:26 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: do you want .c code I have ready so far? | 12:27 |
| jonwil | yes that might be nice | 12:27 |
| freemangordon | ok | 12:27 |
| jonwil | I cant promise anything since most of the math here is FPU and I dont know the first thing about ARM FPU :) | 12:28 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: this is WIP, you can use qtcreator to run it on the device | 12:28 |
| jonwil | ok | 12:28 |
| freemangordon | on the same place | 12:28 |
| jonwil | heck, even x86 FPU still gets me sometimes | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: VFP is easy, just lots of instructions | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: I think I have everything else in place besides that case. though it needs some cleanup | 12:30 |
| jonwil | ok | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: keep in mind that hexrays crashes on subC1C5 | 12:32 |
| jonwil | you mean sub_C15C? | 12:32 |
| freemangordon | yep | 12:32 |
| freemangordon | sorry :) | 12:32 |
| freemangordon | M4rtinK: so, wanna help? | 12:33 |
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| jonwil | HexRays isn't crashing on that function here | 12:33 |
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| freemangordon | weird | 12:33 |
| freemangordon | what version? | 12:34 |
| jonwil | IDA is 6.5.140116 | 12:34 |
| freemangordon | same here | 12:34 |
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| jonwil | HexRays is 1.7.0.120531 | 12:34 |
| jonwil | is that what you have? | 12:35 |
| freemangordon | can you pastebin the decompiled code? | 12:35 |
| M4rtinK | freemangordon: that looks like a call for getting a static map | 12:35 |
| freemangordon | "static map"? | 12:35 |
| M4rtinK | freemangordon: or for configurable tile size | 12:35 |
| jonwil | http://pastebin.com/wwNUx7zU | 12:35 |
| jonwil | Thats what IDA gets for that function here | 12:36 |
| M4rtinK | http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Static_map_images | 12:36 |
| freemangordon | thanks | 12:36 |
| M4rtinK | you give it coordinates of the upper left (or some other) corner, how big it should be and at which zoomlevel | 12:36 |
| M4rtinK | and it returns an image | 12:36 |
| freemangordon | yep, looks like that | 12:36 |
| freemangordon | do you have some reference code? | 12:37 |
| M4rtinK | now thinking about it | 12:37 |
| freemangordon | btw I guess the coordinates are center coordinates | 12:37 |
| M4rtinK | lat, lon might also denote the center of the image | 12:37 |
| jonwil | one way to attack this stuff that I have used in the past is to get the offending binary into GDB (or if it you could get it to work, the IDA remote debugger) then single step the relavent code and see what the output looks like | 12:37 |
| jonwil | I have done it before with other N900 things | 12:37 |
| jonwil | never with FPU though | 12:38 |
| M4rtinK | if they used this for example to show "mini maps" for search results or something - you want your POI in the middle & the image should fit to your viewport | 12:38 |
| M4rtinK | not really reference code | 12:38 |
| freemangordon | M4rtinK: maybe what they do is: | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | lon/lat is the center | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | extend this (somehow) by using zoom,width,height | 12:39 |
| freemangordon | download all the tiles that cover the result | 12:40 |
| freemangordon | make one big pixmap and scale/clip it to fit width/height | 12:40 |
| freemangordon | make sense? | 12:40 |
| freemangordon | *makes | 12:40 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, that's how you do that | 12:41 |
| M4rtinK | and it can be either server side or you can do it locally | 12:41 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, this is what the OSM static map API does: | 12:41 |
| M4rtinK | <img src="http://staticmap.openstreetmap.de/staticmap.php?center=49.358000388858,6.9517517067091&zoom=10&size=500x350&markers=49.388701399058,7.0245361305339,ltblu-pushpin" /> | 12:41 |
| freemangordon | ovi only serves 256x256 tiles iiuc | 12:41 |
| M4rtinK | just ignore the marker=* variable, but that's basically it | 12:42 |
| M4rtinK | 99.9% of tile servers serve 256x256 tiles | 12:42 |
| freemangordon | yeah, seems like | 12:42 |
| jaska | its a nice round number :) | 12:42 |
| M4rtinK | there are some that serve other sizes, but not many (64x64 or 256x128 (isometric projection)) | 12:43 |
| freemangordon | hmm, so we need to find the code that does this (in C) | 12:44 |
| freemangordon | though I am still concerned about that missing cos() | 12:44 |
| M4rtinK | my advice is to run the code if possible | 12:45 |
| M4rtinK | and to compare results with the algorithm on OSM wiki | 12:45 |
| M4rtinK | preferably on some low zl (2-4) | 12:45 |
| freemangordon | which exactly algo on OSM wiki? | 12:45 |
| M4rtinK | lon/lat -> tile numbers | 12:46 |
| freemangordon | I did that, results doesn't match | 12:47 |
| M4rtinK | most likely candidate, if it takes lat/lon | 12:47 |
| freemangordon | maybe because the algo on wiki takes upper-left, not the center | 12:47 |
| M4rtinK | and what does tha code do actually ? | 12:48 |
| M4rtinK | if just returns some numbers or calls some web service ? | 12:48 |
| freemangordon | it download the tiles from ovi | 12:48 |
| M4rtinK | have you checked if the urls exist ? | 12:49 |
| freemangordon | yep, it is fine | 12:49 |
| freemangordon | http://maptile.maps.svc.ovi.com/maptiler/maptile/newest... | 12:49 |
| freemangordon | the result is stored in /home/user/MyDocs/.map_tile_cache | 12:50 |
| M4rtinK | hmm | 12:50 |
| freemangordon | file format is (zoom, x, y, map_options) | 12:50 |
| freemangordon | *filename format | 12:50 |
| freemangordon | 2 chars for zoom, 6 for x,y and 2 for options | 12:51 |
| M4rtinK | I see two possibilities: the lat/lon is in center or is in a corner | 12:51 |
| M4rtinK | and it is used to fill in the viewport | 12:51 |
| freemangordon | ok, how to calculate the corner if I have the center? | 12:51 |
| freemangordon | (I don't want to reinvent the wheel if you know how) | 12:52 |
| freemangordon | I am almost sure this is what they do | 12:53 |
| M4rtinK | this is how modRana does that: https://github.com/M4rtinK/modrana/blob/master/modules/mod_projection.py#L157 | 12:55 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC projection units are basically floating point tile coordinates | 12:56 |
| M4rtinK | eq 1,1 - upper left corner | 12:56 |
| M4rtinK | 1.5,1.5 - middle of a tile | 12:56 |
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| freemangordon | M4rtinK: so, px1 and py1 are x/y of the upper left corner in tile coordinates? | 12:59 |
| M4rtinK | but as you work with three coordinate systems (display coordinates, projection/tile coordinates and geographic coordinates), it can get a little messy | 13:00 |
| freemangordon | :) | 13:00 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 13:00 |
| M4rtinK | and px1 and px2 should be the lover right corner | 13:01 |
| M4rtinK | and you get px1 by moving the "pointer" half of the scaled screen width - 0.5 * self.w / self.scale, scaled for current zl | 13:02 |
| M4rtinK | then half, of the height | 13:02 |
| M4rtinK | etc. | 13:02 |
| M4rtinK | that's how you get the edges from the center | 13:03 |
| M4rtinK | oh, wrong - the scale is always the same (256) | 13:04 |
| M4rtinK | and you don't have to scale it | 13:04 |
| M4rtinK | as the tiles are always the same size | 13:05 |
| M4rtinK | and the scale is given by the zoom level | 13:05 |
| freemangordon | hmm, I'll send a couple of dbus requests to the original binary, lets see | 13:05 |
| M4rtinK | so you might get say px=100 py=100 | 13:05 |
| M4rtinK | but it corresponds to different lat/lon on different zoomlevels | 13:06 |
| M4rtinK | anyway, got to go :) | 13:07 |
| M4rtinK | but I'll should show p in the evening :) | 13:07 |
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| freemangordon | ok | 13:10 |
| M4rtinK | good luck :) | 13:10 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: I think I got it - they convert lat/lon to x/y and download the four adjacent tiles | 13:40 |
| jonwil | neat | 13:40 |
| freemangordon | then they merge those 4 tiles into one and scale to width/height | 13:42 |
| jonwil | cool | 13:51 |
| jonwil | Is this stuff used for the main "maps" app and its data downloads or is that something different? | 13:51 |
| jonwil | wait main maps app uses different things | 13:52 |
| jonwil | some microb browser plugins do all the work IIRC | 13:52 |
| freemangordon | I am not sure, that *might* be used by main map app as well | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | BTW it is a bit more complicated | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | the tiles are not four, but depend on width/height | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | for 512x512 9 tiles are downloaded | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | so i guess it is width/256 + 1 | 13:54 |
| freemangordon | for number of columns and similar for rows | 13:54 |
| jonwil | I doubt its used by main map app as main map app stores data differently and downloads it differently (in a bunch of files with .cdt extention, some of which may contain JPEG data) | 13:58 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: could be | 13:59 |
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| jonwil | anyone here know anything about kernel code and specifically ioctls? | 14:26 |
| jonwil | hmmm wait no, thats different code | 14:27 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: I found a working php code that does what nm-navigation... does :) | 14:48 |
| jonwil | great | 14:48 |
| jonwil | nice one | 14:48 |
| jonwil | I am very close to finishing my re-ing of libisi | 14:48 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: ping | 16:52 |
| jonwil | pong | 16:52 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: could you "beautify" a bit that function that fails on me (sub_C15C) | 16:53 |
| freemangordon | like - correct variable types, mapped variables, etc | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: NMProviderCachedTile struct is what yuu need | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | *you | 16:58 |
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| jonwil | Try this to get it to not fail: Go to the function that fails and then go to edit-other-reset decompiler type information. tick all boxes except "global objects" then go into that function and see where it calls another function and decompile all of them that it calls. That should make it work | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: wait, maybe my hexrays is old, it is version v1.7.0.120531 | 17:01 |
| jonwil | nope, thats the one I have | 17:02 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 17:02 |
| freemangordon | ok, will try | 17:02 |
| freemangordon | nope, didn't help | 17:03 |
| jonwil | damn, wierd | 17:04 |
| freemangordon | could it be because I run IDA through wine? | 17:05 |
| jonwil | doubt it | 17:05 |
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| CapsuL | hi | 17:41 |
| CapsuL | hwho can be tell me about QT4 ? | 17:42 |
| CapsuL | hwho can tell something about QT4, the libqt4-* ? | 17:43 |
| CapsuL | i try to install achess game from extras-devel , on my nokia n900 | 17:46 |
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| NIN101 | nobody can tell you anything if you don't ask. | 17:51 |
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| CapsuL | hehe thx u | 17:57 |
| CapsuL | so | 17:57 |
| CapsuL | i try to install chess game (miniature) | 17:57 |
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| CapsuL | and when i try it told me impossible , and problem from this files | 17:59 |
| CapsuL | libQT4-* etc... | 17:59 |
| CapsuL | how can i download library : | 18:00 |
| CapsuL | ? | 18:00 |
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| drathir | CapsuL: reason of not possible? | 18:03 |
| drathir | ups... | 18:03 |
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| CapsuL | Nin101 , can u help me ? | 18:07 |
| NIN101 | CapsuL: I remember having a problem with miniature and Qt. | 18:10 |
| CapsuL | yes , other too .. | 18:11 |
| NIN101 | and right now it's not working for me either | 18:12 |
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| CapsuL | if u | 18:13 |
| CapsuL | are mor information about solution... | 18:13 |
| NIN101 | and it's not important for me, you can only play on FICS with it, not against an engine on the phone, and it lacked some features iirc. | 18:13 |
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| CapsuL | same for install whireshark aon my nokia .. impossible | | 18:35 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | CapsuL: It possibly depends on CSSU | 18:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~pkg | 18:51 |
| infobot | methinks pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ | 18:51 |
| CapsuL | okok thx , i will ne check that | 18:52 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | CapsuL: It says on the package page that it is "aimed for MeeGo". From a quick look, it seems to need a later version of Qt than other Maemo Qt applications. | 18:59 |
| CapsuL | ok , i am with nokia n900 naemo .. | 19:01 |
| Nokiabot | nameo?? | 19:01 |
| CapsuL | when i download package file from website , where i put it ? | 19:02 |
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| CapsuL | maemo :) | 19:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Use the application manager to install updates. Yes, I know you are on Maemo (N900) ;) | 19:04 |
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| stryngs | CapsuL: apt-get install | 19:04 |
| stryngs | Thats what men use | 19:05 |
| stryngs | Be a man! | 19:05 |
| stryngs | guis are for girls | 19:05 |
| stryngs | Plus, HAM is so slow, that it'll make you hate life | 19:05 |
| CapsuL | no work .. | 19:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | not when they do extra things, Maemo isn't Debian/Ubuntu | 19:06 |
| stryngs | CapsuL: What did you download from a website, a .deb file? | 19:06 |
| stryngs | Like what sixwheeledbeast, what can HAM do that apt-get cannot? | 19:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam | 19:06 |
| infobot | it has been said that hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 19:06 |
| CapsuL | nothing for the moment , i will go check wich one before | 19:06 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | stryngs: see the last link - update failure recovery, domains, install scripts. | 19:08 |
| stryngs | apt handles conflicts properly from waht i've seen, i'll be interested to grab the aforementioned package and see what happens | 19:09 |
| bencoh | I think the log is more about fapman default autoremove which is quite broken in maemo | 19:13 |
| bencoh | you may end up with half of the system removed because deps are borked | 19:13 |
| bencoh | "everything comes with the meta package" | 19:13 |
| * stryngs has used apt-get since day 1 and never had any issues. | 19:14 | |
| stryngs | as long as u don't do dist-upgrade life is good | 19:14 |
| stryngs | at least in my case. | 19:14 |
| bencoh | same here but I dont autoremove, neither dist-upgrade | 19:14 |
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| stryngs | i autoremove as well | 19:14 |
| stryngs | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. | 19:15 |
| * stryngs cuddles his n900 gently | 19:15 | |
| bencoh | :) | 19:15 |
| stryngs | But..... I am different than most users in here. I do not use CSSU | 19:16 |
| stryngs | I do rock kp-52 | 19:16 |
| stryngs | =) | 19:16 |
| Nokiabot | Ham is for *********** | 19:16 |
| Nokiabot | apt is what i love on linux | 19:16 |
| * stryngs hugs Nokiabot | 19:16 | |
| stryngs | Preach it | 19:16 |
| bencoh | :-) | 19:16 |
| bencoh | stryngs: no cssu ? why ? | 19:16 |
| * stryngs still has the original screen protector on his n900 | 19:16 | |
| stryngs | Because it screws up permissions for progs that require root | 19:17 |
| stryngs | i.e. | 19:17 |
| stryngs | pwnphone style n900 | 19:17 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | To expand a bit, apt cannot remove 'user/hidden' category files only HAM can. Many have use apt without an issue, but it is not the recommend way to install packages in Maemo. | 19:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | CSSU also make no difference | 19:18 |
| stryngs | cssu does make differences sixwheeledbeast. Half of the programs/scripts I ran prior to cssu that had no issue, have issues with cssu | 19:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | In fact the latest CSSU will soo rock speedyHAM | 19:18 |
| stryngs | But its no worries. My n900 performs just fine | 19:19 |
| stryngs | No cssu need here =) | 19:19 |
| Nokiabot | Oo stryngs m a rookie but still i dint nuke via apt dpkg tar xvzf purge :) | 19:19 |
| stryngs | wha Nokiabot ? | 19:19 |
| kerio | yeah, who needs to upgrade openssl | 19:19 |
| stryngs | Now.... Once I obtain a 2nd n900, i might get into figuring out why cssu jacks stuff up | 19:19 |
| bencoh | haha | 19:19 |
| stryngs | compile it yerself perhaps kerio ? | 19:19 |
| stryngs | I do | 19:19 |
| kerio | good job | 19:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well that's up to you. If you have issues with anything in CSSU Stable then it need reporting. It is bascally compatible wih all Maemo systems. | 19:20 |
| stryngs | Half the packages in the repos are out of date. Most packages arent there. etc... | 19:20 |
| stryngs | I plan to sixwheeledbeast. Once I obtain a 2nd n900 and I don't have to walk around with a half-working pwnphone. | 19:20 |
| bencoh | stryngs: do you maintain your own repo ? | 19:20 |
| stryngs | I do | 19:20 |
| stryngs | but due to current licensing issues, i dont have it public anymore | 19:21 |
| stryngs | As well, i build .debs very unconventially | 19:21 |
| stryngs | It's not the "proper" way and people pitch a fit | 19:21 |
| bencoh | with checkinstall ? :p | 19:21 |
| stryngs | I stopped carring so, f em =) | 19:21 |
| stryngs | Nope | 19:21 |
| stryngs | grab source | 19:21 |
| stryngs | ./configure | 19:21 |
| stryngs | make | 19:21 |
| bencoh | oh, ok :) | 19:21 |
| stryngs | make install ~/foo | 19:21 |
| bencoh | I see | 19:21 |
| stryngs | cd foo | 19:21 |
| stryngs | mkdir DEBIAN | 19:21 |
| stryngs | echo > DEBIAN/control | 19:21 |
| stryngs | add what u need to control | 19:21 |
| stryngs | cd .. | 19:21 |
| stryngs | dpkg-deb -b foo . | 19:22 |
| stryngs | done | 19:22 |
| bencoh | which reminds me I still cant build some scim package | 19:22 |
| bencoh | taken straight from extra with maemo-sdk/sb | 19:22 |
| stryngs | make install DESTDIR=~/foo | 19:22 |
| stryngs | rather | 19:22 |
| bencoh | yeah, got you there | 19:22 |
| stryngs | like for instance | 19:22 |
| stryngs | somebody tell me where to grab lorcon for the n900 | 19:23 |
| stryngs | quick | 19:23 |
| * stryngs waits | 19:23 | |
| * stryngs waits indefinately and then realizes he can dpkg -i it =) | 19:23 | |
| stryngs | if yer interested in some neat debs bencoh I'm happy to share them with ya | 19:23 |
| stryngs | ive got about 24 | 19:23 |
| stryngs | or so | 19:23 |
| * stryngs also builds his .debs natively and does compiling natively. No sandbox nonsense in this n900 users world. | 19:24 | |
| bencoh | meh :D | 19:25 |
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| Sicelo | CapsuL: perhaps post a log of your error .. miniature has been working ok on my N900 | 20:58 |
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| freemangordon | M4rtinK: what do you think about http://pastebin.com/cgQHZ3EW ? Not finished yet, but the idea is clear IMO | 22:39 |
| M4rtinK | freemangordon: looks good :) | 22:42 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, any plans for supporting non Ovi/Here tile sources ? | 22:43 |
| M4rtinK | I can point to you some if needed :) | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | I was thinking about it, this should be yeasy to be implemented | 22:43 |
| freemangordon | but lets first have it working with ovi | 22:44 |
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| M4rtinK | sure, just some ideas for the future :) | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | yep | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | for sure I will include osm once it works | 22:45 |
| M4rtinK | there are some really nice layers other than the default ones | 23:08 |
| M4rtinK | like transparent hill shading | 23:08 |
| M4rtinK | or public transport :) | 23:08 |
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