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| zGrr | moin :) | 12:26 |
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| drathir | mornin... | 16:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | moin | 17:02 |
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| txt-file | wow … still so many people are using a maemo based device? | 18:17 |
| kerio | sure | 18:17 |
| kerio | why not | 18:17 |
| kerio | it's like the best mobile OS | 18:17 |
| bencoh | :-) | 18:17 |
| txt-file | i know | 18:17 |
| ecc3g | it has everything you need and everything you don't... | 18:18 |
| kerio | except for a recent firefox | 18:18 |
| ecc3g | I just dont want googled or appled | 18:18 |
| txt-file | yeah … at least on android there is a huge speed improvement between the first fennec versions and the current version | 18:19 |
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| txt-file | but currently I am trying to reactivate one of my two n900 and use it as sip telephone ;-) | 18:20 |
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| txt-file | Is there a way to completely flash the n900 so that all old settings and file are overwritten? | 18:39 |
| txt-file | I tried the combined image but it still loads some old settings. | 18:39 |
| NIN101 | you need to flash emmc/vanilla | 18:43 |
| NIN101 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#Updating_the_firmware_using_the_Nokia_Software_Updater | 18:43 |
| NIN101 | oops, more preciesley: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#N900 | 18:43 |
| txt-file | thanks NIN101 … am downloading the image now | 18:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: N900 is simply great as SIP VoIP phone, for me | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | other rare reports are vastly differing. Never got to the root cause of such differences | 19:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I even use VoIP via UMTS data and it usually just works | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one flaw: there seems no way to bind VoIP to WiFi connection only, so it doesn't try to operate via e.g. 2G data | 19:28 |
| txt-file | does VoIP work on an 32kbit/s connection? | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hardly | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on the limit | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | usually not | 19:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it *could* theoretically work down to 14,400 | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with the right codec and no jitter etc | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but usually you want 64k or even 128k to make it work | 19:31 |
| txt-file | yeah … everything above 64k should be fine | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uLaw and aLaw (the most usual codecs) need 64kb/s anyway | 19:33 |
| bencoh | gsm needs less afair | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | GSM needs 9600 | 19:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | roundabout | 19:33 |
| txt-file | but here in GER you mostly get contracts where you are shaped to 32kbit/s after a given amount of traffic | 19:33 |
| * txt-file likes Ogg Opus. | 19:34 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iLBC is also a commonly used codec, which is designed for low bandwidth | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it however depends on the set of codecs your peer station supports | 19:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm on sipgate.de and their gateways are kinda fine | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: (GSM) though there's halfrate and enhanced full rate | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HR 4800, EHR 14400 iirc | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | EFR* | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the difference from 9600 to 14400 originally been error correction redundancy | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 14400 is the genuine 2G basic single-slot datarate | 19:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | EFR yields better audio quality on channels with low error rate | 19:43 |
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| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: sipgate ... is that voipbuster | 20:14 |
| bencoh | ? | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, that's sipgate.de | 20:14 |
| bencoh | hmm, never mind, I thought they were related but that was another company | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.sipgate.de/ | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.live.sipgate.co.uk/ | 20:16 |
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| nokiabot_ | home/user # apt-get --reinstall install mmmrpc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: The package mmmrpc needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. | 20:18 |
| nokiabot_ | how do i get rid of it | 20:18 |
| nokiabot_ | it comes up everytine i try to install anything | 20:20 |
| nokiabot_ | i think damm fam is culprit | 20:21 |
| nokiabot_ | it messes things up | 20:21 |
| nokiabot_ | mp community pr somehow got removed as nothing on about cssu | 20:23 |
| nokiabot_ | camera isint working anymore | 20:24 |
| nokiabot_ | now the system reboots suddenly and a banner warning an unexpected reeboot ouccord your custom kernel power settings were not loaded | 20:27 |
| nokiabot_ | i dont want a reflash just want the camera working again for now | 20:28 |
| ecc3g | odd... had a weird slowdown on my n900 that didn't get fixed by rebooting, but a power cycle seems to have fixed it... | 20:29 |
| kerio | ~fapman | 20:30 |
| infobot | from memory, fapman is Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 20:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~hamvsfam | 20:55 |
| infobot | rumour has it, hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo hamvsfam | 20:56 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer51: there's no such factoid as hamvsfam | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~hamvsfam | 20:56 |
| infobot | i guess hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo hamvsfam | 20:56 |
| infobot | there's no such factoid as hamvsfam, DocScrutinizer51 | 20:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo #maemo hamvsfam | 20:57 |
| infobot | #maemo hamvsfam -- created by sixwheeledbeast <~paul@cl-1547.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net> at Sun Nov 3 21:56:06 2013 (295 days); last modified at Thu May 29 22:28:37 2014 by sixwheeledbeast!~paul@2a01:348:6:860a:accf:885c:b712:2623; it has been requested 12 times, last by DocScrutinizer51, 47s ago. | 20:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hello | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | as a general rule when the factoid key itself is highly unique or significantly related to #maemo already, there's no need to make the factoid channel specific (prefix "#maemo ") | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~hamvsfam is <reply> see #maemo hamvsfam | 21:01 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer51 | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo hamvsfam | 21:01 |
| infobot | hamvsfam -- created by DocScrutinizer51 <~lagrange@openmoko/engineers/joerg> 23s ago. | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~_default hamvsfam | 21:01 |
| infobot | #maemo hamvsfam is, like, https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 21:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~multiboot | 21:02 |
| infobot | multiboot is, like, http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/, or **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~literal multiboot | 21:03 |
| infobot | "#maemo multiboot" is "http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/, or **DEPRECATED*, see ~maemo-multiboot" | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~_default multiboot | 21:04 |
| infobot | it has been said that multiboot is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiboot | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ;-) | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~elop | 21:06 |
| infobot | from memory, elop is definetely a microsoft spy and one of the most successful corporate trolls | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~literal elop | 21:06 |
| infobot | "elop" is "definetely a microsoft spy and one of the most successful corporate trolls" | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo elop | 21:06 |
| infobot | elop -- created by Alex[sp3dev] <~alexander@86.110.163.19> at Sat Jun 18 22:25:28 2011 (1164 days); last modified at Thu Aug 30 16:04:18 2012 by docscrutinizer05; it has been requested 4 times, last by DocScrutinizer51, 38s ago. | 21:06 |
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| nokiabot | any one here | 21:51 |
| nokiabot | my device reeboted and ate the last bar:D | 21:52 |
| bencoh | mmh ? | 21:53 |
| nokiabot | what should i do to get the cam working again | 21:53 |
| nokiabot | . | 21:57 |
| nokiabot | usyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso31+0cssu0) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. /home/user # apt-get purge mmmrpc Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: The package mmmrpc needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. /home/user # | 21:59 |
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| nokiabot | i used fam and now i have a broken system | 22:00 |
| nokiabot | about cssu is blank trying to install any package tells to remove mmmrpc | 22:01 |
| nokiabot | camera not working no errors just camera ui is blank | 22:02 |
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| nokiabot | how to get the cam working without a reflash | 22:06 |
| nokiabot | i am on thumb | 22:06 |
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| nokiabot | home/user # apt-get install blessn900 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: The package mmmrpc needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. /home/user # | 22:09 |
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| nokiabot | nothing seems to get installed or removed all want this mmmrpc to be removed | 22:10 |
| txt-file | and what is mmmrpc? | 22:11 |
| nokiabot | dpkg --force-remove dosent help either | 22:11 |
| nokiabot | txt_file:mmm remote phone control | 22:13 |
| nokiabot | txt-file: an utility to use any j2me ph as a keyboard | 22:15 |
| txt-file | kk | 22:16 |
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| kerio | nokiabot: have you just tried dpkg -R | 22:20 |
| nokiabot | fam should be put to extras devel | 22:20 |
| txt-file | and you should probably search for a repository which serves mmmrpc | 22:21 |
| nokiabot | keiro:checking | 22:21 |
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| nokiabot | keiro:home/user # dpkg -r mmmrpc dpkg: error processing mmmrpc (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. Errors were encountered while processing: mmmrpc /home/user # | 22:23 |
| txt-file | nokiabot, have you tried to do what dpkg tells you to do? | 22:25 |
| nokiabot | just give me walls of text to put in xterm | 22:26 |
| nokiabot | txt-file: i dont know it dosent say a thing | 22:27 |
| txt-file | i cite „you should reinstall it before attempting a removal” | 22:28 |
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| nokiabot_ | again reebooted | 22:31 |
| nokiabot_ | sit* | 22:31 |
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| txt-file | i cite from your dpkg output: „you should reinstall it before attempting a removal” | 22:32 |
| nokiabot_ | txt-file: no same problem | 22:33 |
| nokiabot_ | how one does that | 22:33 |
| nokiabot_ | just to be sure | 22:34 |
| txt-file | get the .deb from from somewhere and install it with "dpkg -i /path/to/deb" | 22:35 |
| nokiabot_ | i just need the cam working for now as i am nowhere near a reflash | 22:35 |
| nokiabot_ | wait trying that | 22:36 |
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| nokiabot_ | cant seem to find still searching | 22:46 |
| nokiabot_ | repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/m/mmmrpc/ | 22:52 |
| txt-file | yeah … dpkg also said „[…], but I can't find an archive for it.” | 22:52 |
| nokiabot_ | is this deb | 22:52 |
| txt-file | yeah | 22:52 |
| nokiabot_ | mmmrpc_0.8-1_armel its the package name residing in my docs | 22:58 |
| nokiabot_ | i cant seem to get it done | 22:58 |
| nokiabot_ | dpkg -i mydocs/mmmrpc-0.8_1 armel | 23:00 |
| nokiabot_ | is it like that | 23:01 |
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| nokiabot_ | humm something i am doing wrong | 23:07 |
| txt-file | maybe | 23:07 |
| txt-file | if you tell us what you are doing we might be able to help you | 23:08 |
| nokiabot_ | txt-file: can you write out the proper command pls | 23:09 |
| txt-file | download the deb and then install it with "dpkg -i /path/to/file" | 23:09 |
| nokiabot_ | its in the root | 23:09 |
| nokiabot_ | is cd necessary | 23:10 |
| txt-file | no | 23:10 |
| txt-file | dpkg -i /mmmrpc_0.8-1_armel.deb | 23:12 |
| nokiabot_ | so it should be like dpkg -i /mydocs/filename | 23:12 |
| txt-file | 1. you need to append the filename | 23:13 |
| nokiabot_ | home/user # dpkg -i /mmmrpc_0.8-1_armel.deb dpkg: error processing /mmmrpc_0.8-1_armel.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: /mmmrpc_0.8-1_armel.deb /home/user # | 23:13 |
| txt-file | where have you saved the file? | 23:14 |
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| nokiabot_ | i saved it to the root dir in emmc | 23:16 |
| txt-file | ah … | 23:16 |
| nokiabot_ | ok you make up a dir i will create it much easier:D | 23:17 |
| nokiabot_ | @txt its not inside any folder | 23:18 |
| txt-file | then it might be the best idea to cd to that dir and then do a "dpkg -i ./mmmrpc_0.8-1_armel.deb" | 23:18 |
| txt-file | for the operating system it is always in a folder | 23:19 |
| nokiabot_ | cd :/damm/filename like this | 23:20 |
| txt-file | please paste the output of "pwd" | 23:22 |
| txt-file | (without the "") | 23:22 |
| nokiabot_ | in/sh: cd: can't cd to : /home/user # cd :home/user/mydocs /bin/sh: cd: can't cd to :home/user/mydocs /home/user # cd : home/user/mydocs /bin/sh: cd: can't cd to : /home/user # cdpwd :home/user/mydocs /bin/sh: cdpwd: not found /home/user # | 23:24 |
| nokiabot_ | oh too much noise:d | 23:25 |
| nokiabot_ | err | 23:26 |
| nokiabot_ | its not getting posted here | 23:28 |
| nokiabot_ | anyway it dosent have a output | 23:28 |
| nokiabot_ | got any other idea | 23:30 |
| nokiabot_ | ok bye | 23:34 |
| nokiabot_ | thanks for help | 23:34 |
| nokiabot_ | need some sleep now | 23:35 |
| nokiabot_ | try again lafer :) | 23:35 |
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