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| DocScrutinizer51 | somehow I think in Spain the telcos have already started next round of price battle which is unknown yet in Germany | 15:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 16bucks for ADSL and mobile free voice minutes and 1.5GB mobile data | 15:47 |
| kerio | neat | 15:47 |
| kerio | wait what's a buck | 15:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | EUR | 15:48 |
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| kerio | i see | 15:52 |
| kerio | yeah that's not bad | 15:52 |
| kerio | i pay 5€ for 100mb/day | 15:52 |
| kerio | but that's not tied to my landline | 15:52 |
| kerio | which isn't mine, it's my parents' | 15:52 |
| kerio | (technically) | 15:52 |
| APic | I pay like 25€ for 50 down, 10 up | 15:53 |
| kerio | well fuck you and your l33t home connection | 15:53 |
| APic | But also Phoneflatrate | 15:53 |
| kerio | i pay 25€ for 20down 1up | 15:53 |
| APic | In the whole Germanys | 15:53 |
| APic | ic | 15:53 |
| kerio | which is like 16down 1up at best | 15:53 |
| APic | *eg* | 15:53 |
| kerio | but yeah, i also have a flat rate for any national call | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | APic: which provider? | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kabel? | 15:54 |
| APic | M-Net | 15:54 |
| APic | Munich City Public Utilities | 15:54 |
| APic | V-DSL which gets transformed to Fiber Optic | 15:55 |
| APic | Pretty close to the Building | 15:55 |
| kerio | neat | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | M-net offers 50 dpwn?? | 15:55 |
| APic | Yeah. | 15:55 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: you live in the wrong city | 15:55 |
| APic | Munich owns | 15:55 |
| kerio | unless you live in munich | 15:55 |
| APic | B-) | 15:55 |
| kerio | in which case you live in the right city but you suck | 15:55 |
| APic | You cannot possess every Thing | 15:55 |
| APic | Or Attribute | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'd hate to live in munich | 15:55 |
| kerio | but sweet internets | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but I'm pretty sure M-net is available in Nue as well | 15:56 |
| wnd | 65 euro/month for 24/3 Mb/s home ADSL (with routed 29-prefix ipv4, 48-prefix ipv6, absolutely no filtering), 5 euro/month for mobile contract with unlimited data at blazing fast 512 kb/s, obviously no free minutes or messages | 15:56 |
| APic | Yeah, they expanded quite a Lot | 15:57 |
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| APic | Well, they block complete V4 from the Outside | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I even think I (technicqally my landlord and friend) have M-net | 15:57 |
| APic | Can only be reached from the Intarwebs with V6 | 15:57 |
| APic | But that's ok | 15:57 |
| APic | V6 > V4 B-) | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but we got 16v2 | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 16/2 | 15:58 |
| APic | So ADSL2+ instead of VDSL prolly | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | for sth like 25 | 15:58 |
| APic | k | 15:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yep, no vdsl | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and I think we couldn't even get VDSL from m-net | 15:59 |
| kerio | wnd: unlimited mobile data? what | 16:00 |
| kerio | i thought it didn't exist | 16:00 |
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| wnd | I never tried saturating the line 24/7, but that's what they claim | 16:02 |
| kerio | i thought i was lucky to get 1gb/day for 30€ | 16:03 |
| kerio | (also free ipad) | 16:03 |
| bencoh | "with routed 29-prefix ipv4" <3 | 16:04 |
| bencoh | is that a commercial ISP or a non-profit/volunteers ornganization ? :) | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: at 512kbps the data volume per month is factually technically pretty limited ;P | 16:04 |
| kerio | bencoh: 8 addresses is pretty fucking awesome | 16:05 |
| kerio | ok, 6 | 16:05 |
| kerio | ls | 16:05 |
| kerio | er, whoops | 16:05 |
| wnd | commercial ISP, mainly aimed at businesses, but I'm just a regular customer | 16:05 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: i have to constantly keep track of what i'm using | 16:05 |
| kerio | otherwise i end up paying more | 16:05 |
| kerio | 20c/100mb | 16:05 |
| bencoh | kerio: yeah | 16:05 |
| bencoh | (well you can get that from business-aiming ISP here ... as well as from volunteer organizations :) | 16:06 |
| bencoh | but it's always surprising :) | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: with my O2 inet-m plan it's even worse. I fall back to sth like 20ct per 10kb or minute | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | SUCKERS | 16:07 |
| kerio | 512 kbps is 64KB/s right | 16:07 |
| wnd | I used to have two static IP addresses until they fscked up their set up, breaking my ipv6 regularly. I suppose they got fed up with my support tickets and offered to replace the bridged+routed abomination with a (routed) subnet, free of charge. Being their customer for the past seven years probably had a say there. | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: kinda | 16:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | though not RL | 16:08 |
| kerio | ok even assuming it's 512000 bits | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's more like 50 | 16:08 |
| kerio | it's still 123.5GB/month | 16:08 |
| wnd | hmm, s/customer/consumer/ | 16:09 |
| bencoh | "bridged+routed abomination" haha :-) | 16:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: maybe if the provider would offer that speed 24/7 | 16:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | s/offer/support/ | 16:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | o.O | 16:17 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: i expect a provider to provide 50KB/s | 16:17 |
| kerio | i mean come on | 16:17 |
| APic | wb erlehmann | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sure, but they may throttle that to incredib.y low speed after you tripped some volume threshold | 16:18 |
| kerio | my provider used to do that last year | 16:19 |
| kerio | like, they reserved the right to throttle you down HARD if you used too much in a single day | 16:19 |
| kerio | no wait, if you used too much over three or four days | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yeah, they do that any damn way they lie | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | like* | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | bandwidth never is guaranteed | 16:24 |
| erlehmann | hi APic | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | even on ADSL they use to offer "up to" bandwidth | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's a damn scam | 16:25 |
| kerio | well i never got throttled this year | 16:26 |
| kerio | but then again there were like literally no people around | 16:26 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | yeah, but technically they could | 16:26 |
| kerio | of course | 16:26 |
| kerio | they own the routers | 16:26 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and they will when you try do 'abuse' your flatrate | 16:27 |
| APic | erlehmann: Unteralterbach.net still resides on my patient .plan B-) | 16:28 |
| erlehmann | APic lel | 16:28 |
| APic | lulz | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | APic: ??? | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | a riddle? | 16:29 |
| APic | Yes, ignore my Conservations with erlehmann please, we were offtopic, sorry. | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | np, just wondering | 16:36 |
| erlehmann | DocScrutinizer05 i designed the web site for the visual novel http://unteralterbach.net | 16:36 |
| erlehmann | APic knows | 16:36 |
| APic | *nod* | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | aah, visual novel. | 16:38 |
| jon_y | visual novels on the n900? :) | 17:03 |
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| silviof | DocScrutinizer51: The name for sourcefiles of UAB2.0 is nice :-P | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ? | 17:11 |
| APic | jon_y: Yes, even the N900 has several Webbrowsers available. B-) | 17:13 |
| jon_y | APic: web based VN? | 17:14 |
| APic | Yes? | 17:14 |
| jon_y | non-Japanese VNs tend to use renPy | 17:14 |
| jon_y | probably runs on the N900 too | 17:14 |
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| wizbit | is there a youtube app for maemo what works with most videos? | 21:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | you happen to know about a (good) offline aka local dicionary De/En/Es ? For N900 | 21:13 |
| Humpelstilzchen | DocScrutinizer51: is the GUI or the dictionary the problem? | 21:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | well, I take whaever I can get ;D | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | of course a cmdline tool isn't ideal | 21:30 |
| Humpelstilzchen | Well for en I use mstardict with a dictionary from dict.cc | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sounds good | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | since it starts with 'm' ;D | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | thanks! | 21:31 |
| Humpelstilzchen | you say that until you find out that you have to convert the dict.cc dictionary with a stardict tool | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ouch | 21:32 |
| Humpelstilzchen | I probably should have created a wiki entry for this.. | 21:33 |
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| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05;http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/18/linux_kernel_devs_made_to_finger_their_dongles_before_contributing_code/ | 22:52 |
| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; click comments. scroll down to "Good Start". Upvote ;-) | 22:53 |
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| dos1 | ShadowJK: :D | 23:05 |
| dos1 | DocScrutinizer51: to save you checking the url on roaming: "Now if they can just find a way to stop Lennart Poettering from making any more malicious changes" ;) | 23:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | HAH! :-) | 23:06 |
| bencoh | dos1: :D | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | worth a vnc session | 23:08 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | hi M4rtinK :) | 23:51 |
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