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vakkovok, I removed it. Is there some info about that bug in qt-components that crashes the apps when multitasking. It's really annoying00:01
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b1101just got another new n900. Now I know what phone I'll be using until something as good comes around.02:42
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louisdkb1101, nice. I guess you're a qwerty-ohologic :)03:10
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b1101very happy I did it03:11
b1101I can't use an android again.03:11
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louisdkb1101, there's also Sailfish OS by Jolla.04:15
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b1101I'm in the U.S. also no keyboard,04:18
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DocScrutinizer05b1101: I guess you'll want a Neo900 then ;-)05:56
b1101oh ya05:59
b1101I'm waiting for my refund, so I can send you a payment in one shot05:59
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DocScrutinizer05you asked for refund?07:47
DocScrutinizer05b1101: please don't miss http://neo900.org/donate-gdc07:49
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vakkov module "QtMobility.connectivity" is not installed09:32
vakkov     import QtMobility.connectivity 1.2       I have enabled mobility 1.2 in the .pro file. Is there a qtmobility qml plugin for connectivity?09:32
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APicRe.09:33
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zGrrmoin :)13:08
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DocScrutinizer05moin!13:30
DocScrutinizer05we just publihsed part 2 of our Neo900 trilogy: http://neo900.org/news/july-trilogy-part-ii-the-present13:30
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keriofuck yeah 1gb ram13:34
kerioDocScrutinizer05: feature request: 2gb ram13:34
APico/13:36
APicDocScrutinizer is the Best.13:36
DocScrutinizer05kerio: doesn't fir on OMAP313:37
DocScrutinizer05fit, even13:37
kerioreally? :O13:38
DocScrutinizer05not enough address lines13:38
kerioit has a 1gb hard limit? :(13:38
keriogoddammit TI13:38
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DocScrutinizer05iirc13:38
bencohoO13:39
DocScrutinizer05what the heck do you want with 2GB RAM? you have 0.25GB right now, on your N90013:39
bencohlove the diagram btw13:39
zGrr.25gb is definitely NOT enough.13:40
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DocScrutinizer05yeah, it's already great, but wait for the HTML version which has awesome hove textx with additional info for every single component13:40
DocScrutinizer05hover texts even13:41
zGrrWhy do you insist on keeping the N900 physical form for Neo900?13:41
DocScrutinizer05because we got no better one13:41
zGrrHmm...13:42
DocScrutinizer05sure, we could use cases of laptops... ;-P13:42
zGrrDon't chinese manufacturers have anything to offer?13:42
DocScrutinizer05no13:42
zGrrThere were some good UMPC designs.13:43
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DocScrutinizer05with matching resistive touchscreen? with LCD display? with keyboard? with antennas?13:43
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zGrrhmm13:49
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zGrrThe Chinese tend to use wacoms13:49
DocScrutinizer05wacom doesn't build r-ts afaik13:50
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DocScrutinizer05not already a showstopper but sure I prefer r-ts over cheesy c-ts13:50
zGrrI would already buy OQO Model 3-China if it wasn't so fscking expensive.13:50
zGrrI also prefer resistive.13:50
zGrrI like wacom though13:51
DocScrutinizer05well, what do you like from wacom?13:51
zGrrprecission13:51
zGrrand13:52
DocScrutinizer05seems our N900 r-ts is as precise as it gets13:52
zGrrYes.13:52
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zGrrNowdays the chinese typically sell dual mode - capacitive/wacom13:52
DocScrutinizer05and Neo900 even comes with gesture/dualtouch :-D13:53
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bencohdualtouch ? waitwaithow ?13:53
DocScrutinizer05yeah, SG Note-2 has such a critter, actually bearable13:53
zGrrwacom with the pen, and capacitive with the finger13:54
bencohhmm13:54
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: I said "I want dualtouch!" and it happened ;-)13:54
bencohmagic13:54
bencohhm, seriously though ... whathow ? :)13:54
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zGrrThe Chinese - at least those that I know don't use keyboards.13:55
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bencoh(looks like we're on wrong chan again btw :D)13:55
zGrrAnd resistive touchscreens are not very good at handwriting recognition.13:55
zGrrAnd capacitive are even worse.13:55
zGrrWith the Wacom (compatible) pen they get even pressure sensor.13:56
DocScrutinizer05bencoh: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1393889#post139388913:57
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bencohoh ... okay :)14:00
bencohthx14:00
DocScrutinizer05yw :-)14:02
DocScrutinizer05zGrr: (Chinese don't use kbd) well, that's no surprise, given their weird 4000 "char" writing14:03
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DocScrutinizer05I bet that's more convenient to enter via handwriting14:04
zGrrDocScrutinizer05: Japanese use keyboard with no problem.14:04
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zGrrThe entire Chinese alphabet consists of 214 radicals all characters are built from. If you had 214 keys keyboard, it could be much more convenient than handwriting.14:06
DocScrutinizer05honestly, no idea :-D14:07
DocScrutinizer05I seen a few colleagues in TPE writing mails14:07
zGrrTPE? What's that?14:07
DocScrutinizer05but never wrapped my head around it, all I seen been that they need up to 5 keystrokes for one "char"14:07
DocScrutinizer05Taipei14:08
zGrrYes, they do use keyboards, I believe. They have some weird keyboard for that.14:08
zGrrI guess invented by the Taiwanese expats in Japan.14:09
DocScrutinizer05https://totalueberwachung.de/blog/category/openezx http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/11/01/openmoko-media-player-and-web-browser/14:12
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zGrrNice time you had there, right?14:14
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zGrrWhy the handhelds are practically extinct species?14:30
APicHuh? Really?14:31
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zGrrI think so.14:36
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zGrrThe last models were released in 201114:37
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zGrrYou can hardly get them even on ebay auctions.14:38
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zGrrBloody tablets and stupid smartphones rule the market.14:38
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sixwheeledbeastAnybody else use the "My Location" and having trouble with it not displaying your location.18:14
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