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| b1101 | vakkov, I think brazil is the one who needs beer | 00:29 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | I take it they need more... | 00:29 |
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| vakkov | damn, and i wanted the netherlands to win this world cup ... well... | 00:30 |
| Humpelstilzchen | no not netherland | 00:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vakkov: you think the netherlands have no chance against germans, only against brazil? | 01:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vakkov: sounds about correct ;-P | 01:45 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:20 |
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| cint | Someone around here who has a copy of chromium_5.0.369.2-maemo4_armel.deb? (fremantle) | 12:45 |
| cint | http://maemo.jacekowski.org/ is down. | 12:45 |
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| spoofy | o/ | 13:12 |
| spoofy | https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb14-17.html < Is the old flash version on maemo is vulnerable? | 13:13 |
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| Wizzup | I wouldn't be surprised | 13:17 |
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| wnd | is "nokia maps" currently working on n900 for others? I know there are alternatives, but that's not what I'm after right now. | 14:26 |
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| wnd | I see network traffic to cds139.arn.llnw.net, but only satellite/aerial photos seem to be coming back. actual maps are not. | 14:27 |
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| spoofy | wnd: same here | 14:33 |
| spoofy | only satellite view on nokia maps | 14:33 |
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| wnd | thanks. at least it's not just me then. | 14:36 |
| spoofy | also modrana-qml has map loading error (Failed to get image) | 14:37 |
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| cint | maemo scratchboc can't be installed anymore because "http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php" is down?! | 14:41 |
| wnd | address searches clearly go to ec2/aws and return data perfectly fine. this particular ec2 address redirect to here.com. | 14:41 |
| spoofy | I have an scratchbox installed on Debian sid before shutdown. | 14:42 |
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| Katajakasa | There we go, got E17/X to start on N810 :D http://katajakasa.fi/projects/n810/boot/ | 15:39 |
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| spoofy | Nice Katajakasa :) | 15:49 |
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| dhbiker | Katajakasa: gentoo ? any reason why you used it instead of others ? | 16:33 |
| Katajakasa | dhbiker: Because i can :P | 16:35 |
| dhbiker | just asking | 16:35 |
| Katajakasa | The whole N810 installation idea came from when a friend found it on my shelf and said something like "heh, you should install gentoo on it" :) | 16:35 |
| dhbiker | <-- gentoo user here | 16:35 |
| Katajakasa | right | 16:36 |
| dhbiker | but you probably don't compile stuff on your 810 ? o.O | 16:36 |
| Katajakasa | Well, I can | 16:36 |
| Katajakasa | distcc helps | 16:36 |
| Katajakasa | BUT | 16:36 |
| Katajakasa | mostly i just compile on qemu :) | 16:36 |
| dhbiker | ah yes :D | 16:36 |
| dhbiker | it would takes ages i pressume :D | 16:36 |
| Katajakasa | Probably, I don't really feel like trying | 16:37 |
| dhbiker | what happened with "Because i can" | 16:37 |
| dhbiker | :D | 16:37 |
| Katajakasa | Ah, Real World sometimes has a dampening effect on enthusiasm :) | 16:37 |
| dhbiker | hehe | 16:38 |
| dhbiker | i tried it once on RPi... was so slow i just canceled it xD | 16:38 |
| Katajakasa | Still, gentoo is nice in that it's pretty flexible. Packages are pretty easily modifiable without arcane packaging magic... | 16:38 |
| dhbiker | yep | 16:38 |
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| Sicelo | cint: /topic | 17:09 |
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| Sicelo | wnd: spoofy : use Nokia/Ovi suite to get Maps. that still works. N900's maps is hardcoded to look for maps in a location that no longer serves maps | 17:12 |
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| Sicelo | and yes, i *ONLY* use stock Maps (have tried all others, but still find stock maps more useful for my use cases) | 17:13 |
| Sicelo | Katajakasa: ver nice :) | 17:16 |
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| Sicelo | what kernel is that? and how long does it take to boot to the login screen? | 17:16 |
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| Katajakasa | Sicelo: 3.3.8 with openwrt patches | 17:17 |
| bencoh | owrt on n810 ? | 17:17 |
| Katajakasa | N810 was a supported openwrt platform at some point, i think | 17:18 |
| Katajakasa | anyways, it's about 30 seconds (or so) to login screen | 17:18 |
| Katajakasa | from pressing the power button | 17:18 |
| Sicelo | wow. | 17:19 |
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| Katajakasa | In any case... I've got working audio, wifi, touchscreen, keyboard, all other buttons, usb in host-mode. Bluetooth not yet tested, but driver module loads and finds _something_. Charging is kind of iffy. | 17:20 |
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| bencoh | neat | 17:24 |
| Katajakasa | systemd actually helps quite a lot. With only openrc, the boot time is around 2-3 minutes :P | 17:25 |
| bencoh | meh :) | 17:26 |
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| bencoh | some init script timing out I guess | 17:26 |
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| Katajakasa | bencoh: Afaik no. It's just that systemd actually knows how to load stuff in parallel :P | 17:32 |
| Katajakasa | OpenRC wanted to load most stuff before it started loading X and SLIM | 17:32 |
| Katajakasa | Systemd started loading X almost instantly after kernel was loaded :/ | 17:33 |
| kerio | yeah, systemd cheats | 17:33 |
| Katajakasa | hah, not a fan ? :D | 17:33 |
| kerio | ~poettering | 17:33 |
| Katajakasa | :P | 17:33 |
| infobot | 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html | 17:33 |
| Katajakasa | I kind of like the idea of systemd. It's fast and pretty light. I'm just slightly worried about it getting huge and bloated :/ | 17:34 |
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| Katajakasa | Systemd Journal though, is something that should be shot and hanged :/ | 17:35 |
| Katajakasa | At least it's possible to disable it and use syslog-ng | 17:35 |
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| Humpelstilzchen | systemd is light? | 17:37 |
| Katajakasa | Yes, actually | 17:38 |
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| Katajakasa | In total, systemd services are running with RSS of ~2.2M | 17:38 |
| Katajakasa | It goes to around 3.5M in use | 17:39 |
| Katajakasa | but that's it | 17:39 |
| Humpelstilzchen | my poor openwrt | 17:40 |
| Katajakasa | In any case, to make this clear (again), i'm running gentoo/armv6+vfp | 17:41 |
| Katajakasa | I'm just using some openwrt patches for kernel. In case somebody thought I was running openwrt. | 17:42 |
| Katajakasa | dbus though... | 17:46 |
| Katajakasa | dbus has an RSS of 8 M | 17:46 |
| Katajakasa | :& | 17:46 |
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| bencoh | typhus, cholera ;p | 17:58 |
| bencoh | good old wrt54g had something like 8M, flat | 17:58 |
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| bencoh | or 16M, not much more | 17:59 |
| bencoh | yeah, 16M | 18:00 |
| Katajakasa | N810 has 128M, so might as well use some of it to make the loading times tolerable | 18:00 |
| bencoh | :) | 18:00 |
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| wnd | Sicelo, thanks. preloading the maps defeats the purpose of stock Maps for me, but monitoring network traffic while preloading just might help figuring out how to remedy the situation. | 20:03 |
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| spoofy | Sicelo: thanks but I would like to see modrana-qml working on fremantle | 20:07 |
| spoofy | IMO modrana is a nice alternative. | 20:07 |
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| wnd | Sicelo, just tried Nokia PC Suite (7.1.1.180.94) in VM, clicking the maps button opens a browser to http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/apps/lumia/here/ . :-/ | 20:26 |
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| cint | Sicelo: Am I off topic? why? Isn't this the general maemo channel? | 21:07 |
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| cint | (for fremantle/n900) | 21:09 |
| bencoh | no you're not | 21:12 |
| bencoh | (it is the general maemo/n900 chan) | 21:12 |
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| fizzie | cint: I think the intended point was that the topic message (which you can usually see with /topic) might contain useful information for you. | 21:19 |
| fizzie | ~sb | 21:19 |
| infobot | hmm... scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 21:19 |
| fizzie | (Possibly there. Haven't checked.) | 21:19 |
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| Sicelo | cint: lol... that was not what i meant | 22:36 |
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| Sicelo | i meant on the /topic you would find the answer to your questsion, as fizzie has so kindly pointed out | 22:37 |
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