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FIQthis might be the wrong place17:30
FIQbut whoever designed the "wrong password" screen?17:30
FIQhttp://home.fiq.se/tmofail.png17:31
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keriohere17:46
hxkahttp://i.imgur.com/9DUc08Q.png17:50
hxkaProbably the problem of the theme you selected17:50
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hxkahttp://i.imgur.com/019BoiU.png Yes indeed, dark text on dark background is very readable17:56
sixwheeledbeastlol, hidden in plain sight18:01
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wizbitanybody know of a decent twitter app to run on maemo?18:41
DocScrutinizer05haha, had a discussion about the problem at #kde recently18:41
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: ^^^18:41
DocScrutinizer05or was it #qi-hw?18:41
sixwheeledbeast:nod:18:42
DocScrutinizer05web "designers" taking assumptions about foreground/background color that are not valid18:42
sixwheeledbeastwizbit: I believe there is currently only one working twitter application. None of the others have been updated to new API18:43
wizbitsixwheeledbeast: do you know the name of it by any chance?18:44
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wizbitim also looking for a google+ client18:44
wizbitim about to enter the world of 'social networking' :/18:45
sixwheeledbeastwizbit: hmmm, I don't use it but that's what I recall from hanging about and reading TMO regularly. Let me have a quick look18:45
sixwheeledbeastfeck social networking. I go the pub18:45
wizbiti dont like real humans18:46
sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: I'd expect the themes to change the text to grey myself18:47
sixwheeledbeasttalk to infobot then18:47
sixwheeledbeast~botsnack18:47
infobot:), sixwheeledbeast18:47
DocScrutinizer05~coffee wizbit18:49
* infobot steals some of Xjs|moonshine's special coffee and gives it to wizbit on a silver platter.18:49
sixwheeledbeastwizbit: TwimGo seems to be one of the ones I recall working18:51
wizbitgoogle+ runs perfect on opera :D18:51
wizbitjust tested18:51
wizbitsixwheeledbeast: ace :D18:51
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: yeah, but alas there seem to be several rather insane combinations of presets, forced presets in browser, forground/background color definitions and all sorts of background not created by browser (image background etc). Then we also get transparency to make things worse18:52
sixwheeledbeastwizbit after then maybe try Rocket and Tweetian but I think recall some issue with them.18:53
DocScrutinizer05a "color" defines as offset to the particular background pixel's color would be a real nice-to-have18:53
DocScrutinizer05alas it seems that exists only for highlighting text18:54
DocScrutinizer05and then only for both fg *and* bg18:54
sixwheeledbeastI suspect the issue is the combination of "Maemo" style on top of BB presets.18:56
sixwheeledbeastthey where never potentially never tested together18:56
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DocScrutinizer05:nod:18:58
* DocScrutinizer05 uses non-maemo-theme since years, can't stand the maemo layout18:58
DocScrutinizer05http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/17/plasma-desktopz31889.png19:00
* sixwheeledbeast actually likes the Maemo theme19:00
DocScrutinizer05too much waste of space for those newsfeeds at right side19:01
DocScrutinizer05"-classic light -" is more like what I appreciate19:03
sixwheeledbeastwaste of space ... I have a wide screen ;)19:10
keriooh man19:13
keriofree linux fonts are awful19:13
kerioalso, your screen is so tiny :319:17
keriohttp://acehack.de/~kerio/screen.png for comparison19:17
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DocScrutinizer05meh, my screen is large enough, and the resolution is just fine for the distance/size ratio19:28
DocScrutinizer05I'd rather get a second monitor than a larger one19:28
keriobut... m-muh dpis19:29
DocScrutinizer05yeah, great. Recent report in c't mag about 4k screens: "get your hand lens! No OS is really capable to consistently display reasonably sized fonts and icons on those"19:31
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DocScrutinizer05and I got 180% vision, according to optician19:34
kerioDocScrutinizer05: os x does19:35
keriobecause programs that don't are just scaled19:36
DocScrutinizer05ooh great19:36
kerioso far, the only one that i found that doesn't is mumble19:36
DocScrutinizer05I really don't need all that, actually I don't _want_ it19:37
kerioit's so fucking pretty tho :319:38
DocScrutinizer05I hate pretty19:38
DocScrutinizer05I want friggin functional and geeky19:38
DocScrutinizer05I still use classical menu19:39
DocScrutinizer05and I don't even understand what's "activities" in that plasma annoyance and where desktop vanished to19:39
DocScrutinizer05I have no freaking animations when closing windows19:40
DocScrutinizer05and no 3D-taskbar that looks like designed by Jobs on LSD19:41
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DocScrutinizer05oh, it *is* "designed by Jobs"19:42
DocScrutinizer05my windows deco looks more like windows95 than like MacOS19:42
DocScrutinizer05and I hardly can think of any app I'd use in a window that's not mximized19:43
DocScrutinizer05maximized19:43
DocScrutinizer05I don't want that mesh up of appstarter and taskbar so you never clearly see if an app is already started or not19:45
DocScrutinizer05and generally I tend to operate my PC rather with kbd than with mouse19:46
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DocScrutinizer05alt-tab is the most used key-combo19:47
DocScrutinizer05if it wasn't for text highlighting in browser windows (for c&p) I'd probably get rid of mouse19:48
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DocScrutinizer05I'm not exactly like rasterman Carsten Haizler who basically just has 20 small xterm windows with tiny fontsize white-on-black on a all black and empty desktop. But almost19:52
DocScrutinizer05actually I can't recall when I last seen my desktop - or just a part of it19:53
DocScrutinizer05aaah, on "screen 2" there it is19:54
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DocScrutinizer05green and all empty ;-D19:54
DocScrutinizer05id that's still the desktop in KDE4 with that plasma rubbish19:55
DocScrutinizer05if*19:55
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sixwheeledbeastscroll wheel surely everyone uses the scroll wheel lots. I know I do21:19
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DocScrutinizer05yes, I do too, particularly since I got MX Revolution21:34
DocScrutinizer05in automatic free spinning mode, with a threshold of ~8clicks/s to switch to free spinning21:34
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DocScrutinizer05it's the greatest thing since sliced bread21:35
DocScrutinizer05and the reason why I got me two new MX5000 a year ago (does anybody need a bt kbd, or two? really nifty stuff with LCD display, counter, thermometer, macro keys...)21:37
DocScrutinizer05beeper!21:38
DocScrutinizer05and batteries last for at least 2 years idle21:38
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DocScrutinizer05oops, MX550021:40
DocScrutinizer05for a number of reasons I prefer a different kbd, which doesn't mean MX5500 kbd are bad21:43
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sixwheeledbeastwell you can't bin the mouse and keep your scroll wheel ;)23:21
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