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| wizbit | anybody know how to turn the screen on via vnc when it goes blank? | 13:05 |
| wizbit | on a n900 | 13:05 |
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| arcean | wizbit: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Unlock_screen_and_keys ? | 13:46 |
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| Maxdamantus | devdraw from plan9port has the input problem, though it already seems to do the stuff in the xev patch. | 17:27 |
| * Maxdamantus wonders what the problem is exactly. | 17:27 | |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 wonders what's devdraw from plan9port | 18:05 | |
| Maxdamantus | A program that translates between libx11 and the draw file interface from Plan 9. | 18:08 |
| Maxdamantus | well, it has some OS X component that presumably supports Quartz or something too, but not using that. | 18:09 |
| Maxdamantus | The input actually goes to another window. | 18:10 |
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| SAiF | o.O | 18:47 |
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| Elleo | /30/30 | 18:54 |
| Elleo | oops | 18:54 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: ping | 22:16 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: it seems the package slang2 has caused extras queue manager to stuck. that packages is already in the SDK repo, so I guess that is the reason for not being promoted to extras | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: see http://maemo.org/packages/view/libslang2/ | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | I think we should "promote" it by hand and remove it from the "incoming" folder, but it is up to you to decide/do it | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | :) | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: that is on stage at maemo dot org | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: anyway, I'll move slang2 packages to a temp folder to allow the queue to run until you decide what to be done | 22:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rationale: any SDK package should get provided by Nokia maemo base repos, not by maemo-extras | 22:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems Nokia failed on that for libslang | 22:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: what's the exact rule in autobuilder to stop the promotion? does it check against nokia base repos (correct) or against maemo-SDK repo (basically incorrect)? | 22:58 |
| freemangordon | no idea, should check | 22:59 |
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| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer05: i know my N900 battery is old now, but what would cause bq27200 to report that the capacity of the battery is 2056mAh? | 23:12 |
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| Sicelo | and when charging, somewhere after 50%, i will jump to 100% | 23:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: reset to EEPROM values, which happens basically on every battery swap | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# bq27k-detail2|grep -A 1 ILMD | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 0x76: 45 ILMD Initial Last Measured Discharge High Byte 914 µVh (1) R/W | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *0x100 * 3.57 / 20 = 2062 mAh fabcoded cell capacity | 23:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: something you're using to read out that value resp the "0x13 - 0x12: 6738 LMD Last Measured Discharge" derived from it on chip reset is using slightly different math than my script does | 23:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | thus 2056mAh vs 2062 mAh | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the raw value is a byte "45" | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~45 * 0x100 * 3.57 / 20 | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grrr | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~45 * 256 * 3.57 / 20 | 23:30 |
| infobot | 2056.32 | 23:30 |
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| Sicelo | sorry, yes, it shows 2062 | 23:30 |
| Sicelo | this is even with removing and re-inserting battery | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, exactly when removing and re-inserting battery | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which does the chip reset | 23:31 |
| Sicelo | ah, lol. i'm not reading correctly. i get you now | 23:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder wtf makes bash think this value was 2062 | 23:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh I used another formula internally | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bash can't do fraction math | 23:38 |
| Sicelo | one more thing .. when charging from completely empty, the LED will not be steady amber at first, but very faint 'beeps' | 23:38 |
| T_X | what's the best way for copying the software of one n900 to another one? I have 0xFFFF here, but looks like it's only able to write but not read and create a fiasco image via usb | 23:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | echo " 0x76: `pv 0x76`" " ILMD Initial Last Measured Discharge High Byte 914 µVh (1) R/W" | 23:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | echo " *0x100 * 3.57 / 20 = " $(( `pv 0x76 0x00` * 179 / 1000)) "mAh fabcoded cell capacity" | 23:39 |
| Sicelo | T_X: i would try backupmenu.. as long as you ensure both N900 are running same kernel version | 23:40 |
| T_X | is there some live image offering 0xFFFF directly on the device and an ssh or telnet console? | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch!!!! | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | `pv 0x76 0x00` is as wrong as it might get | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: beeps? | 23:42 |
| freemangordon | blinks? | 23:42 |
| Sicelo | yes, (english) | 23:42 |
| Sicelo | blinks | 23:42 |
| T_X | Sicelo: they are probably not. the one n900 is a stock one afaik (the one I want to copy to). the other has u-boot, an additional power kernel and backupmenu (the one I want to copy from) | 23:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: then it wasn't THAT empty to cause emergency charging | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you got a charger that's really weird, or a battery that's almost totally broken | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly if LED really blinks on/off instead of fading in and out | 23:43 |
| Sicelo | yes, blinks on off, and it's very faint | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | T_X: works | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just install uBoot again on target | 23:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: very short dim flashes? | 23:45 |
| Sicelo | yes | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | error message from charger chip bq24150 | 23:45 |
| Sicelo | ok. what does it signify? | 23:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | can mean a lot, from power-not-good on USB (you see one single such flash on removing USB charger plug), to battery-not-detected | 23:46 |
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| T_X | maybe I'm a little too much of a perfectionist now, but would have prefered doing a 1:1 copy | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | battery detection works by probing for 0V and then checking for instant high voltage (4V or whatever) when charger starts charging | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | T_X: this is as 1:1 as it gets | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't copy kernel, at least not simple | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kernel needs flashing, and uBoot basically *is* a "kernel" | 23:48 |
| Sicelo | i'm tempted to reopen the device, and solder the 4 or 5 USB pins. i did not do this before, but only soldered the port in place, because on pc, everything works as it should. | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it goes to NAND partition "kernel" | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: oooh, that explains a lot | 23:49 |
| Sicelo | :) | 23:49 |
| Sicelo | it is just that i don't understand how the device can work flawlessly with pc (both charging and data transfer), but have such problems with charging | 23:50 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: 500 vs 1200 mA? | 23:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for example | 23:51 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: what is the charger? | 23:51 |
| Sicelo | the original one | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the "parasitic" series resistance in VBUS might simply be too high to provide the minimum of 4.5V at 900mA | 23:52 |
| Sicelo | i will do this 'surgery' wednesday, and see what happens | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: use how air reflow tool if by any means available | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's pretty "impossible" to solder the 5 pins of a soldered-down USB, without doing major mech surgery on the device | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with soldering iron | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hot air otoh is easy peasy | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just blow hot air into the gap until solder reflows | 23:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | which usually magically will fix any loose pins | 23:54 |
| Sicelo | i don't have access to this :( | 23:55 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: a gas iron? usually you can use it like that | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | visit an arbitrary phonbe repair shop, they should | 23:56 |
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| Sicelo | i'll check | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then ... did you finally check the receptacle's and plugs' contacts springs? | 23:57 |
| Sicelo | there are few places here which do that kind of thing. once it comes to that level, you're generally advised to get a new phone | 23:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I've seen debris on them, or even bent ones, more than once | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for micro USB you definitely need a magnifier glass to inspect | 23:58 |
| Sicelo | i did check DocScrutinizer05. in the end, i concluded that the jack on the N900 charger was faulty, so i cut it, and connected the 'barrel' type connector, which then goes to the nokia adapter | 23:59 |
| Sicelo | at least this way i can charge, with the problems already mentioned | 23:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: one faulty connector usually damaged the counterpart connector too | 23:59 |
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