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mlwaneHello01:05
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mlwaneDoes anyone remember whether the N810 has a setting to flash the LED when charging?01:07
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mlwaneI cannot seem to find this option under Control Panel > Display > LEDs01:08
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hxkapari42: http://www.jedge.com/n810/flasher/01:43
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DocScrutinizer05kerplop??07:03
DocScrutinizer05silviof1: I don't think glibc is a toolchain07:05
DocScrutinizer05pari42: see07:06
DocScrutinizer05~flashing07:06
infobotmethinks maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware07:06
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DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1411750#post141175009:11
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silviof1DocScrutinizer05: Yes glibc is not a toolchain. But it is the name in sb-menu if you select this toolchain.12:46
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brolin_empeyMonths ago, I was discussing BlackBerry 10 with another user of this channel who used a BlackBerry Z10 at the time.  Who was this other user?  I know I should be able to search my backlog on disk but searching for something from months or years ago in the backlog is a PITA with Quassel IRC. (fail)13:03
DocScrutinizer05http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog13:05
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DocScrutinizer05also needs a minute to complete searches, but finally it returns results13:07
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hxkaOr just use google https://www.google.ru/search?q=brolin_empey+blackberry+z10+site%3Amg.pov.lt%2Fmaemo-irclog13:14
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DocScrutinizer05nice :-)13:19
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles, I knew it :-D13:19
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Thank you.  The BlackBerry Z10 user was GeneralAntilles .13:20
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brolin_empeyGeneralAntilles: Does BlackBerry 10 limit how many applications can run at once?13:23
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brolin_empeyWikipedia says “Users are currently limited to 8 running applications, which are displayed from most to least recently accessed.[17]” but the cited document/source does not seem to mention such a limit.13:27
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pari42_hxka: DocScrutinizer05: Thanks,got it13:42
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silviofwhere I can find the nokia-apps and nokia-binaries? The skeiron.org page points me to the http://tablets-dev.nokia.com page.17:00
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segenamhello17:04
segenamI just got a N900 and I want to install CSSU, unfortunately I am not under PR1.317:05
segenamthe links I found browsing the net seem to have only dead links17:05
freemangordonsegenam: set your date to 2009 or so, install PR1.3 and thean install CSSU17:05
freemangordon*then17:06
segenamdo you know where I could find the necessary files to update to PR1.3?17:06
freemangordonthey are in nokia repos17:06
segenamcan it be done from the phone? I didn't find any mention of PR-anything anywhere17:06
freemangordonas soon as you set your date so the certificates are valid, you should get an "maemo update"17:06
freemangordonyes, from the phone17:07
segenamI don't seem to access nokia repos although the n900 can surf the net, so I thought they may have been discontinued17:07
freemangordonjust set your date to 2009, launch application manager and click on "update"17:07
segenamok, I'll try the 2009 solution then, thanks :)17:07
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segenamby the way, I intend to use it as a small linux computer (using gcc,perl,python,aircrack and metasploit). Are there some things I should/shouldn't do if I want to use it like that (like avoiding to install some applications or setting some options)17:13
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freemangordonxes: hi!17:17
xesfreemangordon: ola17:17
freemangordonxes: I looked at the build log, but find nothing17:17
freemangordonno idea what could be the problem17:18
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freemangordonthe only thing that could be is that autobuilder uses hathor SB17:18
freemangordonnot that it should make any difference17:19
xesgreat... :( so, i'm not so blind. I tried to figure the problem but i have no idea17:19
xesin my vm the package builds without any problem17:19
freemangordonit could be some missing build dependency, but it is not immediately clear from the build log17:20
xesyep, but the error "command not found" about cmake sounds very clear17:20
freemangordonsure17:21
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xesif you have some minute, could you look at debian/rules if there is anything weird?17:22
freemangordonI looked, nothing suspicious, but I am not the best man to assess that :)17:22
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freemangordonxes: maybe upload new version with DH_VERBOSE=117:23
xesok, i'll check everything again and re-up with dh_verbose (there is also a new git version)17:24
silviofat least, I have found the nokia binaries (deb     http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79 nokia-binaries)17:24
freemangordonsilviof: great :)17:24
silviofI will add this to the sdk-wiki page17:24
freemangordonxes: also, I've never used cmake, and have NFC why it could break17:25
xesfreemangordon: let's see what happens with verbose... btw, thanks17:26
freemangordonxes: wait, is it possible that cmake is x86 version instead of arm?17:26
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freemangordonhmm, no: Unpacking cmake (from .../cmake_2.6.3-2maemo4+0m5_armel.deb)17:27
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segenamI suppose you don't need to create a backup if you reset the n900 to factory settings and have no data on it yet?17:30
segenam(before updating to PR1.3)17:30
GeneralAntillesbrolin_empey, yes, it's 8.17:32
GeneralAntillesI've only hit that limit a handful of times, however.17:32
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silviofhow can I get write access to wiki.maemo.org?17:36
freemangordonsilviof: login?17:37
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silvioflol, that war easy - i have took the wrong password :-P17:38
silviofsorry for that noise17:38
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segenamI'm installing CSSU stable, and I saw an exclamation mark near the date in the top left corner. Clicking it showed me 10 "ovi updates" regarding libqtm. I thgought it was part of CSSU and accepted update, but it tells me libqtm-bearer conflicts with a number of libqt4 4.7.0 libraries, should I go on with the install of refuse it?18:14
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freemangordonsegenam: install only "maemo update"18:17
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xesfreemangordon: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/libmosquitto_0.15.836-1/armel.build.log.FAILED.txt18:18
freemangordonxes: oh, so it is some cmake magic18:18
xesfreemangordon: while here seems solved: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/libmosquitto_0.15.862-1/armel.build.log.FAILED.txt18:18
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xes...."magic"...18:19
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freemangordonxes: get debian/rules from the package that succeeds to build :)18:19
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xesjust done18:22
xesfreemangordon: the only change seems to be:  "cmake -G 'Unix Makefiles' -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/maemo/usr"18:22
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segenamfreemangordon: there is no update listed named "Maemo", only those libqtm. The installation seems to differ from https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU since point 5. I was prompted to add a repository "CSSU" but I wasn't prompted for any other installation (unless they are background jobs and not prompting questions yet?) Should I go again to the wiki page and reclick "stable" button?18:24
freemangordonxes: I don't see the "configure" step in your build log18:24
freemangordonsegenam: is there "community ssu" in applications?18:24
segenamfreemangordon: yes, a yellow/gray box icon18:25
segenamby the way, sorry about all the questions, so far I didn't belive in smartphones so it is the first time I use one :p18:26
freemangordonclose the application manager, wait 2-3 minutes and click on it ("community ssu")18:26
freemangordonsegenam: "Once this is completed, close HAM and go into the applications menu. Tap the Community SSU icon. This will run through a series of scripts to ensure the community repository are set up. "18:27
freemangordon:P18:27
freemangordonyou sure you read the wiki?18:27
freemangordonsegenam: there is a video tutorial too18:27
segenamyes :) but I didn't go to step 6 as step  5 didn't seem to be complete18:28
freemangordonok, go to step 618:28
xesfreemangordon: config: config-stamp ... config-stamp: cmake...18:28
freemangordonxes: NFC, but configure is not called18:28
freemangordonaiui18:28
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segenamyes, I checked it out quickly yesterday, I supposed it was less complete than the wiki. I'll go have a look again, thanks ;)18:29
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Vrm1Should I question how to compile programs in N900. I had installed kernel-power_2.6.28-10power51r1, install build-essential there several times and compiled some programs, and then restart the phone after not running, I do not know whatever now, the phone after reflash and there are 2 June 28-omap1.  They suspect someone what was wrong?19:45
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Vrm1Hello There is a big difference between the kernel power_2.6.28-10power51r1, install a kernel 2 June 28-omap1, which is the original setting. Compiles some programs and sometimes the phone does not want to boot up.  What could be wrong? Most of these programs also works :)20:20
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brolin_empeyGeneralAntilles: Is such a limit truly necessary, especially considering that the BlackBerry Q10 has 2 GiB of RAM?  Maemo 5 does not seem to have a limit even though the Nokia N900 has only 256 MiB of physical RAM.22:04
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darkschneidermm is it normal that to get "PLAIN" authentication in n900 email client i need to select "none" in the menu, and then it uses the IMAP settings for auth and then for connection security you select TLS and change the port to 587 and it does  STARTTLS. Wouldn't be easier to have two menu options "PLAIN" and "STARTTLS" int he two menus?23:08
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brolin_empeydarkschneider: I cannot answer your question but I can tell you that the “n900 email client” (Maemo 5 Mail User Agent (MUA)) is named Modest.23:28
darkschneiderlol :D that a suited name :D23:28
darkschneider(but i'm thinking to future if it get adopted for neo900)23:28
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brolin_empeydarkschneider: Yes, Modest is very limited compared to Mozilla Thunderbird.23:34
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darkschneideri send 1 email month fron phone, i just need something fast, that is why MT does not applu23:35
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