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DocScrutinizer05SpeedEvil: SAW-TS allegedly break/wear too soon?11:30
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DocScrutinizer05SpeedEvil: SG note2 is hybrid c-ts plus *inductive* ts :-/11:35
DocScrutinizer05SpeedEvil: there's *glass* analog r-ts!11:36
DocScrutinizer055wire11:36
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SpeedEvilDocScrutinizer05: It's rather annoying that all the options suck.13:50
DocScrutinizer05indeed13:51
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!16:28
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DocScrutinizer05~wb16:32
infobotIt's great to be back!16:32
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DocScrutinizer05folks, DON'T MISS TO VOTE!16:41
FIQvote? what voting16:46
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sixwheeledbeasthttp://maemo.org/vote18:15
sixwheeledbeast^^^FIQ18:15
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FIQhmm, garage gives a certification error18:35
FIQinteresting18:35
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DocScrutinizer05hmm?18:40
FIQhttps://garage.maemo.org/ gives a certification warning :p18:40
DocScrutinizer05no, your browser does that18:41
FIQyeah I know it's my browser, just saying that it does that18:41
DocScrutinizer05well, import maemo techstaff to your root CA certs18:43
DocScrutinizer05;-P18:43
FIQhttps://garage.maemo.org/snippet/detail.php?type=snippet&id=12 interesting...18:46
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DocScrutinizer05really?18:51
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DocScrutinizer05what's interesting with spam? interesting that you think you should post a link to that spam here in chan18:59
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DrCodehi all20:46
DrCodeI have strange problem, when I disconnect from BT (my car) it drop volume to off20:47
DrCodethen if someone call , it handup after 1 ring, any idea?20:47
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DocScrutinizer05disable BT. Or how do you "disconnect"?20:56
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DrCodewhen I switch off my car it disonnect21:01
DrCodeits strange21:01
DrCodeis there option to change volume automticly while I diconnect BT?21:02
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DocScrutinizer05you didn't disconnect, you simply switched off the BT "peripheral" (your car)22:06
DocScrutinizer05I dunno how BT handles that situation. Similar to a WWAN call is not instantly terminated when you have a temporary connectivity loss in a tunnel or whatever22:08
DocScrutinizer05disable/switch-off the BT in your N900 to actually disconnect and revert to standard audio profile22:08
DocScrutinizer05this may or may not help to fix the issue22:09
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DocScrutinizer05you can test a similar case with a BT headset: pair and connect, then carry the BT headset out of reception range of the N900 (might be some 30m or more) or rmove the battery hard from the headset, without prior switching off. When you didn't hear sound while you do, there's probably no RF communication going on between the headset and the N900, so the N900 has no chance to detect that headset got "disconnected"22:13
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DocScrutinizer05N900 will detect the problem the latest wgen there's some audio pending for playback, e.g. on inbound call. Probably N900 will decide that it can't handle the call since the "audio is not working" and thus rejects the call22:14
DocScrutinizer05when*22:15
DocScrutinizer05all this gets handled by bluez and alsaped 8the latter an obscure undocumented closed blob, thanks Nokia). Ask pali, he might know details22:17
DocScrutinizer05or freemangordon_22:17
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sixwheeledbeastIs the volume simply that the headset volume is off? Not tested a BT headset but a wired headset has different volume levels to speakers or nothing attached. Connect headset and increase volume with rocker switch. As for the one ring hang up maybe it wasn't rejected but hung up?22:22
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sixwheeledbeasts/Is the volume/Is it22:23
DocScrutinizer05I have to admit I don't have the faintest clue who's talking to alsaped to switch the audio profiles according to the current usecase. Might be PolypAudio, or MCE or mission control or I dunno what else22:23
sixwheeledbeast~ping22:24
infobot~pong22:24
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: each audio sink has its own volume, yes22:24
sixwheeledbeastyep, maybe one sink volume is down?22:26
DocScrutinizer05possible22:26
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DocScrutinizer05the report is pretty fuzzy anyway22:26
DocScrutinizer05rather: abiguous22:27
DocScrutinizer05volume of what drops to zero? and when call comes in, will the ringtone playback or not?22:28
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DocScrutinizer05and ... where does the call come in? on N900 or on car communication system? (it might even use remote SIM access from car phone to N900 SIM)22:30
DocScrutinizer05there's a nice number of unknown variables in that scenario22:31
DocScrutinizer05what software is running on N900?22:32
DocScrutinizer05this http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PBAP ?22:36
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sixwheeledbeastyep ~ask22:47
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DocScrutinizer05? ~question ?22:55
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Sicelodoes N900 offer remote SIM via BT?22:57
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