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| DocScrutinizer05 | morning | 10:09 |
| freemangordon | morning | 10:10 |
| freemangordon | https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/13/61 | 10:10 |
| * freemangordon likes Pavel's style :) | 10:10 | |
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| psycho_oreos | I wonder has anyone tried those microUSB Y cables, there was I guess one mentioning of it when RTLSDR stuff was being discussed but there was no "continuation" with the same subject. | 10:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 10:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | psycho_oreos: eh? | 10:43 |
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| psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer05, talking about this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1370763&postcount=3 There's no fruit with that being mentioned. | 10:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: pali seems to adopt my style pretty well | 10:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | psycho_oreos: sorry? fruit? | 10:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~hostmode-powered | 10:45 |
| infobot | hostmode-powered is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=921203#post921203 | 10:45 |
| psycho_oreos | DocScrutinizer05, my bad. I meant there's no results with those one mentioning about it.. such question like if it works or not still lies fairly unknown. | 10:47 |
| * psycho_oreos checks the link. | 10:47 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I can hardly see a way how it could fail | 10:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though the setup is a tad unfortunate, aiui it's a micro-A male plug that's not fitting into N900 without filing the plug down | 10:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it also looks like a micro-A to me | 10:50 |
| psycho_oreos | I was more so referring to the commercially made variant. Some people have reported the said commercially made cables to work with their embedded devices (namely android phones but then there was one reporting of where with raspberry pi it fails). | 10:50 |
| psycho_oreos | You mean the little legs or teeth that micro-A has? | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'd be better of with a micro-B male plug, but the micro-B they mention is only for the receptacle at the charger leg | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please check wikipedia for USB plugs | 10:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | N900 has a micro-B receptacle, micro-A plug won't fit | 10:53 |
| psycho_oreos | The only problem is with these dime-a-dozen ebay sellers, they don't make any specific mentioning if its micro-A or micro-B. I know for sure micro-B would definitely work afterall that's what N900 is using natively. | 10:53 |
| psycho_oreos | Hmm :/ ok thanks. | 10:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can however file down the micro-A profile to fit into micro-B | 10:53 |
| psycho_oreos | Ahh yes I can clearly see what you mean there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Mini_and_Micro_connectors The micro-A are more rectangular than micro-B. | 10:54 |
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| psycho_oreos | http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261265741063?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 <-- I'd say that would most likely fit (albeit the pricing). | 10:56 |
| psycho_oreos | Also reading those description blurbs, it's clearly evident that they make a mentioning if it's type A or type B. Hmm.. | 10:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 10:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | this one looks better | 10:58 |
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| psycho_oreos | Better than the one mentioned by xes? | 11:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, much better | 11:06 |
| psycho_oreos | I guess in either way, the differences between micro-A and micro-B are clearly evident. It's not likely that one will be fooled for micro-A connector when the seller is declaring it's micro-B or micro-B compatible. | 11:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess a lot of sellers have no clue | 11:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the one referenced by xes clearly has none | 11:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | your link the seller mentions the fact that other sellers have no clue | 11:09 |
| Apic | A wonderful spendid Bureaucracy the 69th in the YOLD 3179! | 11:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | micro-B plugs fit into micro-AB (aka OTG) receptacles. Micro-A plugs however don't fit into micro-B receptacles and probably often have a tight fit in micro-AB | 11:10 |
| psycho_oreos | Albeit much cheaper imo :) apart from very long delivery time (the one xes mentioned). Upon closely looking at the xes referred one, I guess they do sort of say its micro-B and the photos upon closer inspection seems more like micro-B than micro-A. | 11:10 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 fires a ddate | 11:10 | |
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| psycho_oreos | Yeah definitely micro-A won't fit into micro-B of the differences in shape. | 11:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | read again, the seller only states gibvberish | 11:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and no, it doesn't exactly look like a micro-B plug | 11:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though there are no good photos to show | 11:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, might be a micro-B as well | 11:13 |
| psycho_oreos | The last two statements by the seller xes mentioned is definitely gibberish. | 11:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hard to tell | 11:13 |
| psycho_oreos | Definitely without better pictures it's hard to identify. | 11:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's how much? 2 bucks? try it! | 11:19 |
| psycho_oreos | It'll be a long wait, one buyer mentioned that it takes four weeks for delivery. | 11:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 11:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe visit a *good* phoneshop next to you? | 11:21 |
| psycho_oreos | Besides, the link I mentioned here looks much nicer imo. Despite the photo the seller for that link showing off having the Y cable plugged into his phone and memory stick is not the same as the one he is selling. | 11:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OTG cables, even Y cables, shouldn't be that exotic anymore | 11:21 |
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| psycho_oreos | There's none as far as I'm aware. :/ I used to source microUSB adapters from overseas whilst travelling. Besides I guess there's no way for me to test until I get the ports fixed anyhow, *shrugs* will go shop around tomorrow in my time I suppose. | 11:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed a different pair of plugs | 11:23 |
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| psycho_oreos | Also there's that stupid tax for electronics lol (which actually still applies here). | 11:24 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 needs to hurry, to get sth to eat before losing control | 11:25 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o/ | 11:25 |
| psycho_oreos | O.o cya! and thanks for input! | 11:25 |
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| MrPingu | Sorry, I am in hurry but there seems to be package is missing on the server: | 12:51 |
| MrPingu | See my reply on: http://213.128.137.28/showthread.php?t=88444 | 12:52 |
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| psycho_oreos | If you piped that file into google you would see another mirror. | 13:23 |
| MrPingu | I know, but it's more about reporting this as it is a leftover of the migration | 13:25 |
| MrPingu | already got the deb file from one of the mirrors ;) | 13:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where?? | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since when we're using raw IP addr? | 13:26 |
| MrPingu | Since that's what google returned me, after searching that particular thread | 13:27 |
| MrPingu | Ignore that, it's my fault | 13:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, you say this package is missing in extras-devel? | 13:30 |
| MrPingu | Yep | 13:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | strange | 13:31 |
| MrPingu | But g2g | 13:31 |
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| DrCode | hi all | 13:33 |
| DrCode | I want to setup proxy in wifi , is there possible to setup it from terminal? | 13:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 13:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 13:34 |
| DrCode | it has + and - to find the right port | 13:34 |
| DrCode | I can't type it | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what? | 13:34 |
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| DrCode | I go to wifi ap and advance | 13:35 |
| DrCode | I can type proxy address, but port number need + or - key | 13:35 |
| DrCode | I can't just type it ? | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, judst click into the numeric field and type the port number | 13:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't _need_ (+) or (-) | 13:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually the (+) and (-) are touchscreen buttons | 13:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and they work for me | 13:38 |
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| DrCode | strange it dosnt let me type port number even if I open keyboard | 13:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it's in numeric mode | 13:39 |
| DrCode | ok | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no bluekey | 13:39 |
| DrCode | yes , it work now | 13:39 |
| DrCode | thankyou | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 13:39 |
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| DrCode | when I setup proxy , I will be able to connect via gtalk and other IM? | 13:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dang, mrpingu is right, it seems wirouterkeyrec is missing in extras-devel | 13:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: ^^^ | 13:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: could you check and possibly fix this? | 13:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/wirouterkeyrec/ http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/wirouterkeyrec/1.1.2-0maemo1/ | 13:53 |
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| woodong50 | Hi | 16:32 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Ah, good, some movement from Nokia on maemo.org handover. | 16:42 |
| jonwil | what news is this? | 16:43 |
| jonwil | i.e. does this benefit the community or is it just administrative stuff? | 16:43 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hopefully concluding contact negotiations with Nokia. | 16:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mostly administrative/legal. | 16:44 |
| jonwil | ok | 16:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | Means Nokia won't be able to yank the rug out from under us at least. | 16:49 |
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| jonwil | so exactly which domains are going to the community? *.maemo.org? Some subset of that? Other domains? | 18:19 |
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| mashina | so i've been on freenode for over 4 years.... wow | 18:24 |
| mashina | time flies | 18:24 |
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| Apic | Time flies like an Arrow, Fruit Flies like a Banana. | 18:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: council to board: please consider tabletsdev.nokia.com, and the nokia repos | 19:10 |
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| kerio | please also consider tablets-dev.nokia.com | 19:12 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: :P | 19:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | banana? I always found they like rotten fruit in general, except banana which don't rot mostly | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: next council term the will be no hiding and no escape for you!!! | 19:14 |
| kerio | D: | 19:14 |
| kerio | what have i done now? | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/the/there/ | 19:14 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: kerio: next council term there will be no hiding and no escape for you!!! | 19:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nothing yet ;-) | 19:14 |
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| Macer | i ordered a lumia 521 | 19:23 |
| Macer | and what's funny is... | 19:23 |
| Macer | the n900 is more expensive haha | 19:23 |
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| Macer | i think i'm tired of playing with devices. time to get something that simply works. | 19:24 |
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| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, it may be down to just getting something signed that ensures we don't lose everything before the Microsoft stuff steals all of the attention. | 19:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Macer: you're simply refreshing... always :-S | 19:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Macer: we for sure need that kind of prodding | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Macer: honestly, take it to #android, I'm sure they are way more pleased to hear the very same words | 19:44 |
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| Macer | huh? | 19:45 |
| Macer | i wasn't being insulting. | 19:45 |
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| Macer | i'll still keep my n900 :) | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I rhink ~98% of what I've seen you posting durng the last 12 months been "eeew, N900 is so terribly XXXXX" | 19:45 |
| Macer | i need to get a sim adapter for it tho. | 19:45 |
| Macer | then you have very selective memory | 19:45 |
| Macer | but it is always easier to remember the things we hate than those we like ;) | 19:46 |
| Macer | N900 is awesome. simply obsolete. has a bit more time i'm sure in the hobbyist area. | 19:47 |
| Macer | sad thing about the N900 is you don't want it to be obsolete heh | 19:47 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: my n900 has a broken wifi :c | 19:47 |
| kerio | gift me a new one! | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | point me to the last statement of yours that's eligible to give me the "now I know why I waste my time for this guy" moment | 19:48 |
| * Macer points at "...is you don't want it to be obsolete." | 19:48 | |
| Macer | while i said "you" it is implied that the "you" is 3rd person "I" | 19:49 |
| Macer | kerio: i have an e7.. want that? :) | 19:49 |
| Macer | i'd give anything for nokia drive on the n900 heh | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I bet in 15 min you have 5 guys explaining to you why nokia drive is shite and what you should use instead | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote I updated marbel and narblemaps today | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dang, marble* | 19:52 |
| Macer | why would they do that? n900 doesn't really have anything that is as good as. maybe some of the n900 apps have some unique features | 19:52 |
| Macer | but most just want "say your destination" and directions pop up heh. nokia drive is awesome. | 19:52 |
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| xes | kerio: new life for your N900: http://pocketpccentral.net/news/2006/october/1017_spectec_wifi.htm | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe because their mileage may vary, and it's not your definition that rules the world on what's great and what's not | 19:53 |
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| Macer | DocScrutinizer05: i'd say in this # i would be the majority of users on the planet. give someone nokia drive and give them marble and see which one works out better heh | 19:54 |
| Macer | xes: wow that thing is neat | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wouldn't want any crappy app that exports all my audio to a distant rogue server, to do speech detection there | 19:54 |
| Macer | you can type it in too and store local maps | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aha | 19:55 |
| Macer | for the tin foil hat people ;) | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Macer: honestly, you better take all that to #android | 19:55 |
| Macer | if they want to find you they'll find you DocScrutinizer05 heh | 19:55 |
| Macer | i don't have an android device tho | 19:55 |
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| Macer | actually deleted my entire google acct last week | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and we have no nerves to read your eloquent explanations why N900 sucks | 19:56 |
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| Macer | saying that it is lacking in 1 app doesn't mean it sucks | 19:56 |
| Macer | telepathy is probably the best im/mms app there is | 19:56 |
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| Macer | well.. conversations | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just that in 2h it's the next app | 19:56 |
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| kerio | xes: that's sweet | 19:57 |
| Macer | microb is awesome too albeit lacking power from the n900's hardware side | 19:57 |
| kerio | is it supported by linux? | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd estimate the "<macer> I'm done with this shit device now" posts and rants at an average of 3/week | 19:57 |
| xes | kerio... :) yep... but it seems discontinued | 19:57 |
| kerio | of course it is | 19:57 |
| kerio | it's a horrendous idea | 19:57 |
| kerio | but it means that you could get dual radios on n900 | 19:57 |
| kerio | would libicd-network-wifi work with it? | 19:58 |
| Macer | haha | 19:58 |
| Macer | kerio: tha is from 2006 | 19:58 |
| Macer | too bad.. looks kind of awesome | 19:58 |
| kerio | it feels a bit longer than the usual µsd | 19:58 |
| kerio | maybe it won't fit | 19:59 |
| Macer | does it have storage too? | 19:59 |
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| Macer | it says it "protrudes" | 19:59 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: gimme a uSD with wifi and 1gb of ram-based storage! | 19:59 |
| Macer | DocScrutinizer05: naw. i've slowed down. mostly because i've been using the n900 for real world things instead of pretending it is a pocket computer | 20:00 |
| Macer | especially when i realized it can sync to outlook.com heh | 20:00 |
| kerio | like, 11n wifi | 20:00 |
| Macer | lol | 20:01 |
| Macer | like email, nav, banking, talking, txting, etc. not trying to find out if i can build znc on it and set it up to act as a shell box while on the go with my laptop hopping across diner free wifi hehe | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | outlook? wtf is outlook? | 20:04 |
| Macer | outlook.com .. you have to say the whole thing. like a tribe called quest | 20:05 |
| Macer | rephrase: it can connect to outlook.com's exchange connector using mail for exchange and sync cal, mail, contacts | 20:06 |
| xes | ...mmm...could we apply here an auto kick filter to ban everyone that starts talking about 0utl00k? | 20:07 |
| Macer | xes: in relationship to connecting an n900 to it? some people might want to know how to do that heh | 20:07 |
| Macer | geez. when did this room get so serious. i miss lcuk. | 20:08 |
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| xes | Macer: you are right. So far you are the second one talking about 0utl00k.com: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/search?q=outlook.com | 20:10 |
| Macer | outlook.com is good. at least imo. nice interface | 20:11 |
| Macer | xes: how long did it take you to load that link? | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 90s | 20:13 |
| xes | ..more than a minute | 20:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes it even times out | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | funny enough that Macer complains about room got serious when xes posts sth I conceife as a pun | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | conceive even | 20:15 |
| jonwil | anyone know how projects.maemo.org fits into all this community stuff (or for that matter, what it actually is :) | 20:16 |
| xes | kerio: http://www.netcom-3c.com/en/products/detail.asp?id=170 this company is still producing this adapter and also a microsd with NFC. !! | 20:16 |
| Macer | just seemed like it took a long time. Lithuania internet heh | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | some obsolete stuff afaik | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nix lithuana internet. server doing a fulltext grep on a several gb set of textfiles | 20:17 |
| Macer | xes: is the nand just to boot the wifi fw? | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I suggested several times to mgedmin to add a time range filter option to the search function | 20:18 |
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| Macer | or does it double as actual storage? | 20:19 |
| xes | Macer: sorry? | 20:19 |
| Macer | that wifi sd | 20:19 |
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| Macer | in the diagram it has "nand flash" | 20:19 |
| Macer | does the microsd act as wifi + storage? | 20:20 |
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| xes | Macer: never tried this. I still have an old spectec wifi sd sleeping in the dust somewhere.. Btw i don't think in a microsd there is enough space for both | 20:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I actually wonder how there's enough space for WiFi | 20:23 |
| joga | maybe not on microsd? | 20:24 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 glares at that µSD that has a literal sticker on the contact side to cover the chip | 20:24 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I peeled it off a tiny bit and traces appeared | 20:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dude, that's one crappy uSD | 20:25 |
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| kolp | ~maemo-dev | 20:47 |
| infobot | it has been said that maemo-dev is http://maemo.org/development | 20:47 |
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| Macer | hm | 22:34 |
| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; some uSD cards have visible traces as "standard" | 22:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20131015_006.jpg | 22:36 |
| Apic | ^.^ | 22:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one more, mompls | 22:37 |
| ShadowJK | oh that's cooler | 22:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20131015_008.jpg | 22:39 |
| Apic | Fine, fine. | 22:39 |
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| ShadowJK | I thought this was what you meant by traces: http://enivax.net/jk/n900/microsd.jpg | 22:46 |
| ShadowJK | The traces going to and from the terminals | 22:48 |
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