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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/09/26/plasma-desktopwc3743.png | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/09/26/plasma-desktopGV3743.png | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sc0rpius: ^^^ | 00:11 |
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| Sc0rpius | oh DocScrutinizer05 that's cool | 00:42 |
| Sc0rpius | but I need it in the N900 :() | 00:43 |
| Sc0rpius | :) | 00:43 |
| Sc0rpius | so I can take a picture with the camera and easily upload it somewhere | 00:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sc0rpius: I'm using a tiny app for that which executes a cmdline for the picture you want to share. My cmdline does an sftp upload to maemo.cloud-7.de/shareservice | 01:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sc0rpius: you could use arbitrary other cmdline, depending on where you want to transfer the picture file to | 01:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I used to use ovishare, but Nokia obviously thought it's been too expensive to host that server | 01:02 |
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| gianji | hello guys! | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi | 01:03 |
| gianji | my question is: is extras assistanr still working? i request invitation to upload but nothing https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php | 01:03 |
| gianji | *assistant | 01:04 |
| Sc0rpius | it should work | 01:04 |
| Sc0rpius | but I guess an admin has to read the invitation and accept it somehow | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | umm, those requests are somewhat poorly worded. We need a proper description of what you plan to upload, and frequently you're supposed to already have a garage project where you host the package | 01:05 |
| gianji | what do you suggest me to write in the request? just the name of package you want to upload in extras-dev is needed? | 01:06 |
| Sc0rpius | for instance what is your application, what it does, why did you do it, why do you still have an N900, etc | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I want to upload quandoparte_armel.deb" doesn't help to decide what this is. Is is FOSS? where is it from? are there patents in it? all that stuff | 01:07 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah last time a random guy request an invitation and then uploaded a system package | 01:08 |
| Sc0rpius | *requested | 01:08 |
| gianji | eheh :p so somebody is reading!?! ok i'll send a more detailed request! | 01:08 |
| Sc0rpius | that was hell for like 3 days | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "I want to upload mandb" might help since mandb is pretty clearly defined in "man mandb" | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we at very least need a pointer to the project homepage | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | regularly that homepage is a garage project | 01:10 |
| Sc0rpius | I use the garage project bug tracking for my apps | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the idea is that only for garage projects we grant upload rights to extras | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there might be exceptions, e.g. for tor which is hosted on tor.org I guess | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or for asterisk | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or for pretty well known standard unix tools | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but those are exceptions | 01:12 |
| gianji | i have the garage page | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the standard procedure is: you develop an app on your garage project site, when you're done you ask for permission to upload from garage to extras | 01:13 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah, what's the application anyway? now I'm curious | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | quandoparte_armel.deb ? | 01:13 |
| Sc0rpius | I don't think so | 01:13 |
| Sc0rpius | that's a very old italian app | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>My garage username is: gianko<< | 01:14 |
| gianji | https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php i'm not the original dev i'm just starting to contribute to this app | 01:14 |
| gianji | i have a fix for a broken url. since the original dev is only supporting harmattan version | 01:15 |
| gianji | i'll take care of maemo version | 01:15 |
| Sc0rpius | I see | 01:15 |
| Sc0rpius | well you're listed as a developer of the project | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: ^^^ could you have a look into this? | 01:15 |
| gianji | yes he added me | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which project? | 01:15 |
| Sc0rpius | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/quandoparte/ <-- that one | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 01:16 |
| Sc0rpius | and this guy is Giancarlo Pasquali | 01:16 |
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| gianji | are you from NSA ? lol | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, the NSA guys are just busy doing our weekly backups | 01:17 |
| Sc0rpius | well a nice invitation request would be like "I'm x guy and my maemo.org login is x and I'm a developer of the project quandoparte which is hosted as (garage link) and I want to upload packages for this project that has been active since 2010 but the main project admin now is MIA so I'm adopting the whole project" | 01:18 |
| gianji | they have a lot of work since new iphone come out | 01:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sc0rpius: there's a form to fill in - it's terribly poorly written with no explanation at all | 01:18 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah I know, I had to fill it once, months/years ago | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the mails we see are frequently exactly this: | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Hi, | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I would like to request upload privileges for the maemo extras and extras-devel repositories. | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | My garage username is: gianko | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | The packages I want to upload are: quandoparte_armel.deb | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -- Giancarlo Pasquali | 01:19 |
| Sc0rpius | :/ | 01:19 |
| Sc0rpius | reject it :P | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I tend to ignore them, but merlin1991 is supposed to handle that stuff | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he needs better info what to check before he may grant upload rights to extras | 01:20 |
| Sc0rpius | and should read the wiki a little more since you can't upload deb files | 01:20 |
| gianji | if i send it now? merlin is in? | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: are you in? | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 01:21 |
| Sc0rpius | you upload the source files and then the autobuilder will build and package it for you if you did everything right. | 01:21 |
| gianji | ok. should be no problem as it worked on my scratchbox sdk | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-D | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel#Uploading_to_Extras-devel | 01:23 |
| gianji | @Sc0rpius you r yappari guy? | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | somebody urgently needs to improve and augment the webpages that have those upload request forms | 01:24 |
| Sc0rpius | yes I am | 01:24 |
| gianji | nice to meet you! my congratulation for your work ;) | 01:25 |
| Sc0rpius | thanks :) | 01:25 |
| Sc0rpius | I assume you use it? | 01:25 |
| gianji | of course! i saw latest yappari failed to build? | 01:25 |
| Sc0rpius | I'm uploading 1.1.39 as we speak, it supports push-to-talk, so if you have extras/devel active you might upgrade in like the next hour or so | 01:25 |
| Sc0rpius | sometimes autobuilder and I have our differences ;) but it built ok last time | 01:26 |
| gianji | cool! | 01:26 |
| gianji | voice note are very trendy nowadays | 01:27 |
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| gianji | i'm sending another request...i'll attache a link to the irclogs XD | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel#Autobuilder_special_considerations | 01:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rather attach an URL pointing to the homepage of that project | 01:33 |
| gianji | ok | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly when that's a garage project it's almost accepted already for extras | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | granting extras upload permissions for garage projects is a nobrainer | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Extras account set to Accepted | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Aktualisiert | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Account Information1 | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Benutzer-ID: 97077 | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Benutzer-Name: gianko | 01:39 |
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| gianji | thanks! | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | np | 01:39 |
| gianji | you mean that if the dev added me in the project i automatically have upload permission? | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but I will not think longetr than 10s when granting upload permissions to a garage project maintainer | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since the garage project already asked all the relevant questions like "is it FOSS, has it GPL?" etc, when it got created | 01:42 |
| gianji | clear | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise I had to visit www.qunadoparte.org and try to find out about all that | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless you don't point me to http://www.qunadoparte.org in which case I simply ignore the request | 01:43 |
| gianji | got it | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks for contributing! :-D | 01:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in case you got issues with atobuilder, drop by here and holler, the cruft on maemo.org infra sometimes needs a kick | 01:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | oh, and prepare for waiting maybe 12h until any change in your maemo account (like new ssh key for uplaod) actually propagated across all the m.o infra | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the machines get synced only evry other hour or so | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and pretty please don't double-upload same version number of your package | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this confuses hell out of the repo management and autobuilder | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also don't use epoc in version string! | 01:49 |
| gianji | ok i'll be carefull. thanks for advices | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 01:50 |
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| merlin1991 | damng too late | 02:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe | 03:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: in ~4 weeks the current council term ends | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | would be nice to have working karma until then | 03:13 |
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| infobot | docscrutinizer05 is currently on #openmoko #openmoko-cdevel. Has said a total of 1252 messages. Is idling for 1h 4m 15s, last said: 'would be nice to have working karma until then'. | 04:17 |
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| Sc0rpius | I wonder if there's a wiki or something with the packages installed in a stock PR1.3 Nokia N900 | 04:37 |
| Sc0rpius | the whole big list of packages that come preinstalled in the phone | 04:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dpkg -l ? | 05:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/40cfc7bc32 though that's not exactly a stock system anymore | 05:25 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | o.O, cherry, notmynokia, fm-boost? | 09:18 |
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| DrCode | hi all | 10:36 |
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| DrCode | I don;t know what to do | 10:36 |
| DrCode | to install android in n900 ? | 10:36 |
| DrCode | can memo run android apps? | 10:37 |
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| psycho_oreos | 1) Old (possibly un-maintained) android versions and you need to make u-boot kernel (and hope it'll work) 2) No. | 10:39 |
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| DrCode | hi | 10:52 |
| DrCode | I don't know if to use only memo or android | 10:53 |
| DrCode | I have some missing apps in memo | 10:53 |
| DrCode | what do U think ? | 10:53 |
| psycho_oreos | At your knowledge level, I'd say you wouldn't be ready for android anytime soon. | 10:54 |
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| psycho_oreos | Rather android on N900. | 10:54 |
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| DrCode | I read about nitroid , so I thote to use it? | 11:01 |
| psycho_oreos | I don't know what "thote" means. nitdroid is basically android ported to N900, it is not a simple drop-in solution and it does not work with every hardware functionality N900 has to offer. | 11:02 |
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| DrCode | I see | 11:28 |
| DrCode | thanks | 11:28 |
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| Mentha | hi there, need some help here :) | 12:25 |
| Mentha | I've been using the n900 with qt-mobile-hotspot as a modem for quite some while and it worked like a charm on all my machines, until it stopped today :/ | 12:27 |
| Mentha | but just on my ubuntu 12.10 pc, where there some kernel-changes that rendered the hotspot unusable or might it something else? | 12:28 |
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| troulouliou_dev | are there n900 owner here that still consider N900 has the only yet suitable phone atm ? | 19:44 |
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| NIN101 | troulouliou_dev: yes, a few of them, including me. though, with NeoN900 there is hope for a true successor. | 19:58 |
| troulouliou_dev | NIN101, ha cool i missed the news, checking now.. | 19:58 |
| troulouliou_dev | NIN101, any link ? | 19:59 |
| NIN101 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142 | 20:00 |
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| troulouliou_dev | NIN101, awesome | 20:01 |
| troulouliou_dev | bigger screenwould benice too.. | 20:01 |
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| troulouliou_dev | NIN101, the phone application / firmware are open source ?? | 20:06 |
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| NIN101 | no. | 20:09 |
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| troulouliou_dev | NIN101, even with shr/qtmoko ... | 20:10 |
| NIN101 | no way you get a full FOSS open source cell phone stack on N900, afaik. | 20:12 |
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| troulouliou_dev | NIN101, do you think such project can be avilable in 2014 ? | 20:14 |
| troulouliou_dev | i mean neo900 | 20:15 |
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| Pali | I'am also using n900 as daily phone... | 20:16 |
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| troulouliou_dev | Pali, do you browse internet sites with it ? | 20:17 |
| dos1 | NIN101: SHR works on N900 | 20:17 |
| dos1 | somehow | 20:17 |
| Pali | now yes :-) my daily notebook is repairing | 20:18 |
| dos1 | it's probably not first class support, but basic stuff works and it's 100% FOSS | 20:18 |
| Pali | and I'am using usb ethernet card in host mode | 20:18 |
| troulouliou_dev | dos1, phone calls works ? | 20:18 |
| troulouliou_dev | Pali, really my dlink usbeth card never worked | 20:19 |
| Pali | with wpa_supplicant which is needed for 802.1x auth | 20:19 |
| troulouliou_dev | Pali, what browser do you use ? | 20:19 |
| dos1 | I recall there were some problems with poor audio quality | 20:19 |
| dos1 | but yes, it worked | 20:19 |
| Pali | classic browser | 20:19 |
| Pali | but with patched some parts... | 20:20 |
| troulouliou_dev | Pali, i still cant find a suitable browser for me .. and i find screen size a little bit too slow | 20:20 |
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| troulouliou_dev | dos1, will check thanks | 20:21 |
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| dos1 | troulouliou_dev: but I don't know anything about current state, n900 images might be broken atm | 20:21 |
| troulouliou_dev | dos1, i jsut never heard of it before 10 min ago :) i think i ll buy a gta04 phone right now with SHR | 20:22 |
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| Pali | hm, is nokia eapd daemon supporting EAPOL on wired interfaces? | 20:23 |
| Pali | or only wireless wl1251? | 20:23 |
| Pali | it is bad that I need two daemons (eapd and wpa_supplicant) which doing same thing | 20:24 |
| Pali | but nokias icd2 can use only eapd and I did not find way how to use eapd with wired ethernet... | 20:25 |
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| troulouliou_dev | Pali, so the host kernel/patch can work with any device, not only usb flash/disk ? | 20:29 |
| Pali | yes | 20:31 |
| Pali | with any device which has kernel driver in 2.6.28 | 20:31 |
| Pali | but for some you need usb hub with external power supply | 20:33 |
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| DrCode | hi al | 20:46 |
| DrCode | any one know about this project: Myriad Alien Dalvik | 20:46 |
| DrCode | I am looking for android VM under memo | 20:47 |
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| Pali | does anybody know any other EAPOL implementation for linux (except wpa_supplicant)? | 21:03 |
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| eichi | i think my n900 died yesterday :( R.I.P | 21:19 |
| joga | noo :( | 21:20 |
| eichi | it was just ideling, then it shutdown and now there a millions if inode errors in ext3 dont thing, this is a fs problem, maybe, but i thing the flash driver died | 21:22 |
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| Pali | ext3 is on eMMC | 21:30 |
| Pali | and maybe only fs corruption | 21:30 |
| Pali | do full reflash (both combined and emmc) | 21:30 |
| eichi | I will reflash it tommorow then i will se | 21:30 |
| Sysaxed | does anybody know any good electronic circuit simulation software? Or maybe simple schematic editor? Preferably multiplatform or at least capable of exporting to popular formats | 21:30 |
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| ShadowJK | ltspice? | 21:47 |
| ShadowJK | qucs? | 21:47 |
| ShadowJK | and what's that online javascript one... circuitlab.com? | 21:48 |
| Sysaxed | I can't find a linux version of ltspice | 21:54 |
| Sysaxed | and qucs version looks scary 0.0.17 | 21:54 |
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| ShadowJK | :) | 22:03 |
| ShadowJK | ltspice is generally ok in wine | 22:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I thought spice is available for linux as well? Also: eagle | 23:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for simple schematics editor | 23:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and what been that other editor? diag? | 23:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dia | 23:14 |
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| useretail | hey, does anyone have patches for 3.x.x kernel? | 23:59 |
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