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| wnd | Earlier today my n900 spontaneously rebooted once again when I was using "hdr capture". However, this time boot would not bring the UI back. After getting back home I used BacupMenu's preboot env to enable mass storage mode and discovered that /home was unmountable (using ext3). fsck refused to fix the fs with prune switch, so after making a copy of the partition, I pointed fsck -y at the partition. Now that I've gone through lost+found, I find myself insanely lucky; i | 00:33 |
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| wnd | t seems that nearly all lost files were either retrieved emails, caches, thumbnails or other practically worthless objects. The only two things that I'm slightly worried about are two sqlite databases that clearly look like tracker's files. | 00:33 |
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| wnd | any ideas where a tracker's db containings a table "ChildServices" should live? | 00:34 |
| wnd | similarly, where does the db with table "BackupMetaData" in it live? | 00:34 |
| wnd | also, do either of these databases contain anything irrecoverable? | 00:35 |
| wnd | From what I can tell, the system is working flawlessly. In fact, probably due to placebo effect, the system actually feels faster now... | 00:35 |
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| ShadowJK | tracker databases can be rebuilt easily | 00:50 |
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| wnd | ShadowJK, I wouldn't be worried if the data looked like media database, but it looks more like something that affects tracker itself, e.g. FileMimes | 01:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I *think* tracker knows how to recreate his db when it vanished | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and actually emptying the trackerdb (as well as eventsdb) easily may cause massive speedup, due to sqlite not eating up dozens of MB RAM for buffering all the cruft in those db | 01:43 |
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| wnd | I certainly hope so | 01:46 |
| wnd | and as for sqlite, I know exactly what you mean | 01:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway if you wanna play safe, you should restore everything from your backupmenu tarball. And then there's also another method iirc: "reset to factory settings" in settings menu | 01:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it should afaik create a virgin ~user/ from /etc/skel or whatever | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | incl any tracker db | 01:49 |
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| wnd | when fsck scared me by not accepting -p I considered restoring from backups - until I realised the latest was from early april | 02:06 |
| wnd | and it was just a few days ago I was thinking of creating autoamtic backups with rsync, much like I do with my desktop... | 02:07 |
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| wnd | that I somehow ended up playing with bluetooth, oopsed my desktop's kernel once too many times (thanks to apparently broken usb-bt stick) and sort of forgot it for time being | 02:08 |
| wnd | thinking about it, I really have no idea why I thought it'd be a good idea to run those backups over bt instead of over ssh | 02:09 |
| wnd | s/ssh/wlan/ | 02:09 |
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| Win7Mac | gn o/ | 02:19 |
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| GI_Jack | new client physicians without borders is here! | 02:26 |
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| ecc3g | wnd: what kernel are you using for your desktop? | 03:10 |
| ecc3g | trying to find a fix for the bluetooth rfcomm bug in 3.8+ | 03:11 |
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| wnd | ecc3g, 3.9 as in debian's linux-image-3.9-1-amd64 (from unstable) | 03:21 |
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| ecc3g | 3.10-rc wasn't fixed yet so might be the same problem I'm seeing, it's a real kernel butg | 03:43 |
| ecc3g | s/butg/bug/ | 03:43 |
| ecc3g | i heard 3.7 does not have this bug, and 3.2 is definitely safe. | 03:44 |
| wnd | whatever it was I had, was rather strange. after triggering the bug by accessing bt hardware, random processes would start throwing gpfs. | 03:45 |
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| ecc3g | for me, if I used bluetooth tethering, and then disconnected rfcomm/bluetooth, the machine would start oopsing and then die | 03:49 |
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| wnd | these were also common: "Bluetooth: hci0 command 0x0c14 tx timeout", where command number would vary | 03:53 |
| ecc3g | I also had a broken bluetooth USB adaptor that times out after having it plugged in for a while... comparing it to my working ones, I tossed it. | 03:54 |
| wnd | well, there's little point in wasting time with faulty hardware when it's both easily available and very cheap | 03:56 |
| ecc3g | right, you should get another one... the good ones I have actually work fairly well, except for that BT kernel bug | 03:56 |
| wnd | already ordered a new one. more expensive this time. | 03:57 |
| wnd | in other words, the new one is worth more than usd 1.5 | 03:57 |
| ecc3g | right now for me, the reference bluetooth radios are the built-in on my laptop...and the n900... The USB sticks I have, one is targus which is pretty good, and one unnamed one which works but not perfect... | 03:57 |
| ecc3g | hmm... wonder how hard it is to use rfcomm for a bluetooth serial terminal on the n900... | 04:01 |
| ecc3g | (what would I have to kill to not conflict with dialup networking...) | 04:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | moinmoin | 12:33 |
| janemba | hi | 12:34 |
| janemba | it is possible to synchronize automatically the repositories from FAM to the repositories from apt ? | 12:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~fapman | 13:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 13:08 |
| Lava_Croft | oh great | 13:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so it's up to me to tell you that fapman is not really a good idea to use | 13:09 |
| Lava_Croft | maximum number of ovi store downloads reached for Billboard | 13:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 13:09 |
| Lava_Croft | i like how Ovi store just recommends me to buy it again | 13:09 |
| Lava_Croft | this will be fun | 13:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Lava_Croft: you rather should grab the .deb from your local download location | 13:10 |
| Lava_Croft | That's hardly the right way to do this! :D | 13:10 |
| Lava_Croft | (i know you can do that, but i just wont:) | 13:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what ovi does is hardly the right way to handle that... problem, whatever 'they' considered a problem here | 13:11 |
| Lava_Croft | no shit | 13:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you buy a package, it afaik gets downloaded by apt to your local .deb store | 13:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should backup it from there, rather than depend on a ovi store that puts arbitrary limitations on how often you may download sth you legally purchased | 13:12 |
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| Win7Mac | Hi everybody | 13:25 |
| Win7Mac | Lava_Croft, use N9QT tweak O | 13:26 |
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| Lava_Croft | that doesnt help if you cannot grab the application anymore | 13:26 |
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| Win7Mac | yeah, too late now :( | 13:30 |
| Win7Mac | chem|st, thanks for the new banner on TMO | 13:31 |
| Lava_Croft | wauw | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | Ovi Store is really mangled | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | https://proto.nokia.com/ | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | they web front-end's support link gets you there:D | 13:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | pretty much HAHA | 13:44 |
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| Win7Mac | Lava_Croft, for future purpose: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1353830#post1353830 | 13:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *SIGH* 17844 nobody 20 0 10.9g 7.4g 396 S 10 95.5 0:27.43 varnishd | 13:49 |
| warfare | DocScrutinizer05: on stage? | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 13:51 |
| rikanee | DocScrtuinizer05: that's one busy caching server | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but our server should handle that more cracefully | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not OK for varnish to eat all RAM and even swap | 13:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actaully it's silly to use swap at all for a webserver | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | swap makes things 10 times worse | 13:54 |
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| warfare | hm, varnish is configured for 512M cachesize. | 13:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since instead of either serving a request from RAM or in case it's not available in RAM then directly read content from "source" html/whatever-file, the IO now goes busy with swapping OUT and in stuff on a factors higer volume | 13:56 |
| warfare | Do you keep restarting varnish? | 13:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: per every of the 2596 concurrent instances? | 13:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 13:57 |
| warfare | DocScrutinizer05: no, in total. | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't restart anything | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I do nothing | 13:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except looking at top | 13:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: I suspect cronjobs | 14:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: around? | 14:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 22190 nobody 20 0 11.1g 7.5g 0 R 42 96.6 0:41.74 varnishd | 14:03 |
| warfare | DocScrutinizer05: something like that. | 14:04 |
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| warfare | I'll disable varnish for a few minutes, so I can work on the machine. | 14:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 14:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no use in that anyway: | 14:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Jun 22 10:44:59 stage kernel: [6582501.370903] apache2 invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0xd0, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0 | 14:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm quite puzzled syslog stalls at 10:45 | 14:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 20min ago | 14:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | now if only I knew where varnish hides its access.log | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nm, found it | 14:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | some mirror on 111.165.44.233 I guess | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait, nope | 14:16 |
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| warfare | Ok, better now. | 14:30 |
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| Lava_Croft | Win7Mac: i saw that, thanks | 14:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | warfare: thanks! | 14:50 |
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| Win7Mac | voted! | 15:03 |
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| Win7Mac | DocScrutinizer05, probably mention running election in channel topic? | 15:05 |
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| *** DocScrutinizer05 changes topic to "HiFo voting booth OPEN! http://maemo.org/vote/vote.php?election_id=32 || Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet" | 15:08 | |
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| Win7Mac | GREAT, THANKS! | 15:11 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Elections. Must mean it's time for me to clean the wiki. | 16:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Tonight. | 16:02 |
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| Win7Mac | GA, what exactly has to be cleaned? | 16:03 |
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| Win7Mac | GA, if I can take care of that, pass it over and I'll gladly do it. You could probably better do yesterdays meeting follow up? | 16:13 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Well, you need to know Media wiki markup. | 16:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'll have plenty of time tonight. | 16:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | Massive book signing today, though. | 16:17 |
| Win7Mac | now that I have a link to a wiki-wiki... ;-) | 16:17 |
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| GeneralAntilles | It's a bit wall o text right now. | 16:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | I was going to move the questionnaire answers and full nomination response to separate sections | 16:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | and do candidate abstracts with short excerpts from the nominations at the top. | 16:23 |
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| Win7Mac | ok, go ahead then | 16:29 |
| * andre__ happy to see GeneralAntilles running | 16:40 | |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hey-oh, andre__ | 16:46 |
| andre__ | hola | 16:46 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I've been sucked back into the insanity. ;) | 16:48 |
| Lava_Croft | Slight insanity is a prerequisite in order to be able to hang around Maemo! | 16:49 |
| andre__ | hehe | 16:49 |
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| Lava_Croft | its true, normal people dont use Maemo! :) | 17:08 |
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| Shapeshifter | So I got myself a new (genuine) battery but I'm still having very short life times imo. I don't remember the battery on my n900 draining this quickly when I first got it. Is this normal? Look at the last two cycles: http://jackfruit.icu.uzh.ch/~archer/BatteryGraph_20130622163243.png Pl | 17:47 |
| Shapeshifter | I get maybe 10h max without really using it at all. I'm not running anything in the background except 30min email checks, 1 gtalk account and 2 sip accounts. | 17:49 |
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| rikanee | Shapeshifter: when was that BL-5J made? | 17:57 |
| Shapeshifter | rikanee: how can I find out? | 17:59 |
| rikanee | Shapeshifter: no clue. | 17:59 |
| rikanee | batteries do have a shelf-life too. | 17:59 |
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| Shapeshifter | Bah. There's so much wrong with the N900 but there's even more wrong with the other crap phones they make these days... | 18:03 |
| Lava_Croft | thats why all those other devices are to limited | 18:03 |
| Lava_Croft | less chance of shit not working | 18:03 |
| Lava_Croft | to/so | 18:03 |
| Lava_Croft | Shapeshifter: there was a way to check up on the wakeups the CPU gets | 18:04 |
| Lava_Croft | so you can find out any possible offending applications that might drain your battery | 18:04 |
| Lava_Croft | but meh, i forgot exactly how, maybe i just cough DocScrutinizer05's name | 18:04 |
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| Shapeshifter | Lava_Croft: mhh. seems like there's no powertop packages for the n900. must be something else. | 18:11 |
| Lava_Croft | there is | 18:11 |
| Lava_Croft | Shapeshifter: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle-1.3/non-free/p/powertop/ | 18:12 |
| Lava_Croft | Shapeshifter: in my experience, over the years, it mostly was 'handy' statusmenu plugins orso that used python that would drain my battery | 18:13 |
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| Shapeshifter | Lava_Croft: the only ones I use are the one that comes with profilesX and orientation lock | 18:31 |
| Shapeshifter | and screen brightness. | 18:31 |
| Shapeshifter | I think sooner or later I'll go for one of the cheap nokia WP8 phones... They can't do much but have very good maps/navigation, good performance even on cheap models (unlike power hungry android) and the battery usually lasts several days. But not yet... <3 maemo | 18:33 |
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| Shapeshifter | btw, is erminig-ng still the only tool able to sync multiple google calendars? | 18:41 |
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| Lava_Croft | wait around for jolla | 18:50 |
| Lava_Croft | or wait for nokia to start produces phones with software that people want | 18:51 |
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| Lava_Croft | DocScrutinizer05: I try to get the application I own on Ovi the same way I got my N900 back | 20:25 |
| Lava_Croft | Whine openly to Nokia on social media | 20:26 |
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| johnathondode | Hi guys. | 23:35 |
| johnathondode | I am having an issue with the N900 wherein it refuses to get a GPS lock. | 23:36 |
| johnathondode | It is stuck at "Looking for GPS.." | 23:36 |
| johnathondode | Anyone faced any similar issues? | 23:36 |
| ecc3g | check your SUPL server? (settings/Location/Network positioning) | 23:38 |
| johnathondode | supl.nokia.com / supl.google.com | 23:38 |
| johnathondode | Tried both | 23:38 |
| johnathondode | The GPS icon keeps blinking non stop in the notification tray as well. | 23:38 |
| ecc3g | do you have "GPSData" from extras? | 23:40 |
| ecc3g | see if you can get the signal from any satellites at all? | 23:41 |
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| johnathondode | I just installed GPSData, but it simply crashed and disappeared as soon as I ran it. | 23:45 |
| johnathondode | Could it be possible that my GPS hardware thingy is done for good? | 23:46 |
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| ecc3g | hmm...that's not a good sign... | 23:52 |
| ecc3g | even after reboot? | 23:52 |
| ecc3g | I think my 5230 has a more sensitive GPS receiver than my n900... | 23:53 |
| johnathondode | Yes, it's almost never worked since I bought it second hand | 23:54 |
| johnathondode | Well not almost, never. | 23:54 |
| johnathondode | I guess it's time has really run out :/ | 23:55 |
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| ecc3g | hmm...did you ever reflash it? | 23:59 |
| ecc3g | that would rule out software conflicts... | 23:59 |
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