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peterbjornxhttp://s14.postimg.org/76jyurns1/IMG_20130409_205614.jpg00:47
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peterbjornxi2c bus 3 :D00:48
peterbjornxunfortunately i ruined my camera00:48
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peterbjornxWHOA01:34
peterbjornxi just got an io expander to work on the n90001:34
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sunny_sI have installed  RetroShare in chroot (east debian), and running it by debbie, working well, but I did minimize  it in notification area (system tray?), could anybody know how to return application back from this notification area?01:39
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sunny_sand where I can found the notification Area?01:40
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peterbjornxwow, my prototype i2c ext kb works03:15
rikaneepeterbjornx: is it soldered directly onto an i2c port?03:18
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peterbjornxrikanee: kinda, i used coil wire to connect to main cam socket i2c pins (bus3) and used that to drive a pcf857403:33
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rikanee:o03:34
rikaneepeterbjronx: planning some kind of N900 dock?03:34
rikanees/peterbjronx/peterbjornx/03:35
infobotrikanee meant: peterbjornx: planning some kind of N900 dock?03:35
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peterbjornxwell, more of a sidecar expansion with extra keys and io03:40
peterbjornxbit like a dock but not to be removed often03:40
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rikaneepeterbjornx: I assume it's going to be grafted to a case so it wraps around the N900's body?03:40
peterbjornxthats the plan, yes03:41
peterbjornxim going to attach it to the battery cover and have it attached on the right side of the n90003:42
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DocScrutinizer05infobot: chaninfo14:46
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DocScrutinizer05infobot: chaninfo14:47
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DocScrutinizer05infobot: chaninfo14:47
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DocScrutinizer05~+status14:47
infobotSince Wed Apr 10 11:45:40 2013, there have been 0 modifications, 0 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 2m 9s this session, and currently reference 119021 factoids.  I'm using about 18568 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 1.86/0.07 child 0.01/014:47
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Macerblah15:27
Macernemo is incredibly flakey :-/15:27
Macerback to maemo15:27
freemangordonMacer: ;)15:27
Macerheh15:28
sixwheeledbeastwhat did you expect?15:28
Macerwell at least a bit better than a blank screen after updating15:28
Macerin wanted to run meego on the n900 heh15:28
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freemangordonMacer: no point doing that, last time I tried it was like a snail. i doubt anything has changed15:29
Macerit wasnt too bad for speed15:30
freemangordonhmm, I guess it depends on what one expects :)15:30
Maceri just wanted to get sports tracker to run on it :)15:30
freemangordonbut in my book more that 10 seconds to start the calculator is slooow15:31
Macerotherwise im going to have to get a 2nd sim15:31
Macerfor the e715:31
Macerjust for running lol15:31
Macerecoach wont work with the sports tracker heart monitor15:33
Macerand well.... it sucks in comparison ;)15:33
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Drathirfreemangordon: really 10?15:35
DrathirMacer: try arch :p15:36
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freemangordonDrathir: yep, at least here15:37
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Drathirinteresting why... clean system should be as light as possible...15:39
Macerarch?15:49
Macernaw...  will try nemo again when the fully functional n900 shows up15:50
Macerif push comes to shove i will just get a pay by the day sim15:50
Macerif i run half a month tho then i will pretty much pay as much as the prepaid sim i have now15:51
Maceri wonder if i can dig up a net10 data only sim for the e715:51
Macerfor cheap. 2G should cut it just for running15:52
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Maceri might not even need a net connection for the app... it is probably just for the maps15:52
Macerhm15:56
Macerguess i can search while i wait for an answer15:56
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Macerhm16:11
Macerk just removed uboot and it is still booting16:12
Macerwth?16:12
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PaliMacer, uboot is stored in kernel nand area16:15
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Paliyou need to reinstall some kernel packages16:15
Palito flash some kernel16:15
Paliyou cannot *uninstall* uboot, you can only replace it with another bootable image16:16
Macerah ok16:20
Maceri'll use meego ;)16:20
Macerjust trying to find out where this image is for it16:21
Maceri'm just testing this stuff on my broken n90016:21
Macerthe working one is on its way in the mail16:21
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DocScrutinizer05~uboot16:37
infobothmm... uboot is an alternative bootloader, for diskless devices16:37
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DocScrutinizer05~#maemo uboot is <reply>N900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files16:43
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay16:43
DocScrutinizer05~uboot16:43
infobotN900 uBoot is a siamese twin binary [uBoot+stockMaemoKernel] that resides in kernel NAND partition /dev/mtd3 aka "kernel". You can't uninstall it, rather you'll nuke it when you flash/install another kernel like stock maemo kernel or powerkernel. To start other than stock maemo kernel via uBoot, you have to provide the according kernel image files16:43
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amospallaI've got kp51+bootmenu+backupmenu, is it safe to upgrade to kp52, or should I change some packages related to boot?16:53
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amospallaI've got kp51+bootmenu+backupmenu, is it safe to upgrade to kp52, or should I change some packages related to boot?21:19
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Palimaemo repositories not working21:30
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Pali2013-04-07 18:43 UTC I promoted package fiasco-image-update-ask21:31
Palistill missing version 0.2 http://maemo.org/packages/view/fiasco-image-update-ask/21:31
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PaliI promoted package usbmode: http://maemo.org/packages/view/usbmode/21:31
Palialso missing21:31
PaliI pushed kernel-power v52 to extras-devel21:32
Palimissing too: http://maemo.org/packages/view/kernel-power/21:32
PaliDocScrutinizer05, who is responsible for repositories now?21:33
Paliwho is admin?21:33
Paliwhere to report bugs?21:33
kerioPali: the site says that the package is there :21:33
kerio:21:33
kerioaargh21:33
kerio:o21:33
Palihttp://maemo.org/packages/view/ipv6-support/ package promoted, but missing in extras-testing21:34
keriooh you meant extras-testing, nvm21:34
DocScrutinizer05Pali: basically merlin1991 is responsible for all *maemo.org repos21:35
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DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: jacekowski also helps maintaining them21:35
PaliDocScrutinizer05, merlin1991 has admin rights?21:35
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Palimerlin1991: ping21:35
Palijacekowski: ping21:35
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991 has sufficient right to do what needs to be done on repos, if he's missing rights he will pester me and we'll fix stuff in 5min21:36
Palimerlin1991, more kp52 subpackages missing on maemo.org/packages but are on repository.maemo.org21:37
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freemangordonPali: did you have time to play with hsi/ssi driver?21:52
Palifreemangordon, no I did not booted 3.9 kernel yet21:53
freemangordonPali: its ok, I was just curious21:53
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DocScrutinizer05anybody around to check our SSL certs?23:13
DocScrutinizer05https://maemo.org23:13
bef0rdThe identity of this website has been verified by StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA.23:14
DocScrutinizer05https://bugs.maemo.org23:14
DocScrutinizer05(the latter seems to be flawed)23:15
bef0rdseems to be ok here23:15
DocScrutinizer05oh, is it?23:15
DocScrutinizer05then my local PC starts to act up23:15
bef0rdthere is a warning about including not secure content23:15
bef0rdYour connection to bugs.maemo.org is encrypted with 256-bit encryption. However, this page includes other resources which are not secure. These resources can be viewed by others while in transit, and can be modified by an attacker to change the look of the page.23:15
bef0rdbut that is not related to thecertificate23:15
DocScrutinizer05yep23:15
DocScrutinizer05and btw should be all the same for https://maemo.org23:16
DocScrutinizer05probably from static.maemo.org23:16
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bef0rdhttp://i.imgur.com/agotZ1k.png23:20
bef0rdvalid ssl cert for bugs.maemo23:20
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DocScrutinizer05yeah, been an issue in my konqueror23:32
DocScrutinizer05thanks23:32
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DocScrutinizer05so this whole shite took me "only" 8h and already it's fixed again23:33
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PaliDocScrutinizer05, also this is working: https://vcs.maemo.org/git/ :-)23:42
DocScrutinizer05Pali: hmm?23:42
DocScrutinizer05not here23:42
bef0rdit fails here, well shows a warning23:43
DocScrutinizer05still our old self-issued cert23:43
PaliDocScrutinizer05, that site via https not worked23:43
bef0rdself signed yea23:43
Paliwebdav not worked23:43
Pali$ GIT_SSL_NO_VERIFY=1 git clone https://vcs.maemo.org/git/kernel-power23:43
Palithis working too ^^^23:43
Paliso webdav via https is fixed too23:44
DocScrutinizer05but anyway thanks, I now know what else we need for startssl certs23:44
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PaliDocScrutinizer05, maemo.org profile does not have karma from tmo23:49
DocScrutinizer05Pali: we know that23:51
Paliok23:51
DocScrutinizer05please see - Elections Eligibility Criteria -  in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8971123:52
PaliDocScrutinizer05, see: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2013-April/106885.html23:52
Paliwhat is fremantlecommunityssu?23:52
Palisome new repo?23:52
DocScrutinizer05sorry, I'm just busy, sounds like a typo done by jacekowski or rather merlin199123:53
merlin1991nope that's what it was always called23:54
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DocScrutinizer05uhuh23:54
DocScrutinizer05'/mnt/incoming-builder/fremantlecommunityssutesting/'23:54
DocScrutinizer05looks odd23:54
Palimerlin1991, can you look why kernel-power-* v52 packages missing in package interface?23:55
Paliand why all promoted packages misssing in extras-testing?23:55
DocScrutinizer05Pali: will we need a normal SSL cert for vcs.maemo.org alike the bugs.maemo.org cert we already got?23:57
DocScrutinizer05The certificate will have the following host names supported:23:57
DocScrutinizer05    maemo.org23:57
DocScrutinizer05    vcs.maemo.org23:57
DocScrutinizer05correct?23:57
PaliI will look what svn using23:58
jacekowskiPali: pong23:58
Pali$ svn checkout https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/browser23:58
DocScrutinizer05well, I guess it's just the same like bugs.maemo.org, no?23:58
PaliDocScrutinizer05, svn using also vcs23:59
Paliso it is ok23:59
DocScrutinizer05ooh, svn vs vcs23:59
DocScrutinizer05thanks23:59
Palijacekowski, I promoted more packages from extras-devel to extras-testing23:59
Palibut packages still missing in extras-testing package interface23:59

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