| DocScrutinizer05 | and does the notify.sh work when called from xterm? | 00:00 |
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| vi_ | yes | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: ^^^ | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then check xchat settings, | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | preferences | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alerts | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | scroll down | 00:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | umm sorry, not there | 00:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tab "sounds" (click on any other tab, then use cursor-right to scroll to "Sound" tab | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "sound playing method" External program | 00:04 |
| vi_ | yes | 00:04 |
| vi_ | it says the path to the notify script. | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | that should work | 00:05 |
| vi_ | it should. | 00:05 |
| vi_ | heh | 00:05 |
| vi_ | i will fix it tomorrow. | 00:05 |
| vi_ | bb! | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: o/ | 00:06 |
| Drathir | vi____: sad... irssi is the best of all... | 00:06 |
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| vi_ | DocScrutinizer05: say hello | 00:27 |
| * vi_ lol | 00:27 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: hello | 00:33 |
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| Cor-Ai | sorry | 00:39 |
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| RzR | http://identi.ca/notice/98122043#HarmattanDev is Back | 01:50 |
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| RzR | teotwaki, hi check http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/ | 01:53 |
| teotwaki | cool | 01:56 |
| teotwaki | I'm not going to start the sync tonight | 01:56 |
| teotwaki | considering it's been online for just a few hours | 01:57 |
| teotwaki | will setup the sync tomorrow or something | 01:57 |
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| RzR | teotwaki, i am making my personnal backup | 02:12 |
| RzR | will tell you how big is it | 02:12 |
| teotwaki | RzR: I don't care about size, no worries | 02:12 |
| RzR | i care :) | 02:12 |
| teotwaki | RzR: and you're the kind of people why I'm not making the back up right now. | 02:13 |
| RzR | I guess it will here to stay | 02:13 |
| RzR | I mean stay as long as we can do that backup :) | 02:13 |
| RzR | anyway this is a good news | 02:14 |
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| Pali | ping Skry | 10:42 |
| Pali | Skry, can you give me link for your n900 linux 3.x git tree? | 10:43 |
| freemangordon_ | Pali: what are those MR for microb-engine on gitorious? | 10:43 |
| freemangordon_ | *MRs | 10:43 |
| Pali | what is MR? | 10:44 |
| freemangordon_ | merge request | 10:45 |
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| Pali | ah, when I looked into all microb* repositories I rebased -engine history for better reading | 10:45 |
| Pali | it is only rebased | 10:46 |
| freemangordon_ | whatever that means :D. ok. | 10:46 |
| Pali | clone both repos and look at git history | 10:46 |
| Pali | with 'gitk' | 10:46 |
| freemangordon_ | Pali: https://github.com/skry/linux-n900 | 10:47 |
| Pali | ok | 10:47 |
| freemangordon_ | i think this is the kernel | 10:48 |
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| freemangordon_ | Pali: you'll need http://merlin1991.at/~freemangordon/kernel3.5/ | 10:48 |
| Pali | ok | 10:48 |
| freemangordon_ | iirc I included the config file too | 10:48 |
| Pali | freemangordon, In that merge request I linearized commits | 10:49 |
| freemangordon_ | Pali: aah, now I got it , ok, nice | 10:49 |
| freemangordon_ | Pali: why not join #maemo-alternatives ? | 10:50 |
| freemangordon_ | Skry is ususally active there | 10:50 |
| freemangordon_ | *usualy | 10:50 |
| Pali | what is -alternatives? | 10:50 |
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| freemangordon_ | ask skry for better explanation, but afaik it is because of ALARM | 10:51 |
| Pali | for microb-engine, see: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/microb-engine/graph/thumb-testing and http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pali-microb-engine/graph/thumb-testing | 10:51 |
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| freemangordon_ | Pali: ok, I was just wondering | 10:52 |
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| Pali | note that merge to main repo is not possible, due to it does not have common ancestor | 10:53 |
| Pali | it is needed to push --force to overwrite it | 10:53 |
| freemangordon_ | BTW I have the nasty feeling that gitorious upgrade has screwed up CSSU repo | 10:53 |
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| tadzik | funny, how I'm told about some GMO government decisions in my country on talk.maemo.org | 10:56 |
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| vi____ | Genetically modified organisms??? | 11:01 |
| tadzik | yeah, it's about food I think | 11:03 |
| tadzik | haha. Read in reverse GMO is OMG | 11:03 |
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| Raimu | CYBORGS | 11:06 |
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| jaska | object management group | 11:13 |
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| vi____ | how come the date command does not work? | 14:37 |
| vi____ | Or more to the point wtf clock is hildon using that is not the 'real' clock? | 14:37 |
| vi____ | Or what I really mean is, why does the 'date' command not update the clock immediatley? | 14:38 |
| r00t|home | lol | 14:44 |
| r00t|home | i noticed that too... because my rtc backup battery is dead and i switch batteries regularly, and then set the time with ntpdate | 14:44 |
| r00t|home | i guess the clock app just caches the time... | 14:45 |
| vi____ | it updates if you lock/unlock the screen. | 14:47 |
| vi____ | What a POS. | 14:47 |
| r00t|home | is that one opensource? | 14:47 |
| vi____ | the clock? | 14:47 |
| r00t|home | yes | 14:47 |
| vi____ | I have the stock clock. | 14:47 |
| vi____ | I have never found a compelling reason to switch to the OS alternative. | 14:48 |
| r00t|home | package name? | 14:48 |
| vi____ | for the OS alternative clock? | 14:49 |
| r00t|home | whatever you are using | 14:49 |
| vi____ | I have literally no idea. It is just the 'clock' program on the n900. | 14:49 |
| r00t|home | ah, so the default one... | 14:50 |
| vi____ | ya | 14:50 |
| r00t|home | my question was if it's opensource, and thus if the behaviour could be fixed | 14:50 |
| vi____ | In other news, I have replaced that utterly retarded 'osso startup wizard' dialogue that makes you swipe to set the date and time with a zenity dialogue that just allows you to enter a (MMDDhhmmYY) string of numbers. | 14:51 |
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| r00t|home | how does one replace that screen? (i'd just remove it completely and put a hook for ntp/gps date setting somewhere instead) | 14:52 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: It is not so easy to fix. I believe the clock applet has to poll the hwclock. To keep polls to a minimum, it is probably only updated once every 30s/unlock. | 14:53 |
| r00t|home | there is no need to poll the _hw_ clock... you just poll the _os_ clock once per second, like any other clock app... | 14:53 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: I though of that but that would require a net connection/gps cold start that would take forever. | 14:53 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: I do not know how it works. | 14:53 |
| r00t|home | is there any serious problem with just booting with the clock set wrong until you have a net connection? the only issue is if i receive text messages or calls before the clock is set, they will be logged with the wrong date | 14:54 |
| vi____ | To replace startup wizard (SUW) edit /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30osso_startup_wizard | 14:54 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: I do not think so, I removed SUW for a long time and just set the clock from the status menu for a while. It seemed to work ok... | 14:55 |
| vi____ | ...Except that one time I forgot to do it and my morning alarm did not work. | 14:55 |
| vi____ | Edit the above file, you will see it does some fiddling with locales then runs the SUW dialogue. | 14:56 |
| r00t|home | yeah | 14:56 |
| vi____ | I just replaced the exec SUW with /path/to/my/script.sh | 14:56 |
| r00t|home | actually the main reason i dislike the startup dialog is that when i boot the phone and put it in my pocket because i don't have time to wait for it to boot, it keeps ending up in some funny locale... | 14:56 |
| vi____ | #!/bin/sh | 14:57 |
| vi____ | echo "date $(zenity --entry --title="Set the time/date" --text="Enter the time/date (MMDDhhmmYY):")" | sudo gainroot | 14:57 |
| r00t|home | shouldn't that be date -s ? | 14:57 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: Well mine is set to eng_gb | 14:57 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: maybe, it works as such anyway. | 14:58 |
| vi____ | Crummy busybox date command. | 14:58 |
| r00t|home | there is a locale setting in the startup dialog aswell, and it keeps getting changed because the touchscreen isn't locked | 14:58 |
| vi____ | aah | 14:59 |
| vi____ | pocket language change. | 14:59 |
| vi____ | Perhaps for you it would be better to apt-get remove SUW | 14:59 |
| r00t|home | doesn't seem to be in a separate package... | 15:00 |
| r00t|home | osso-startup-wizard | 15:01 |
| vi____ | then start a script from xsession.post that will do your connect to the net/update via ntp etc. | 15:02 |
| r00t|home | i'll find out if the phone works without | 15:02 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: It works. | 15:03 |
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| vi____ | Or at least it worked for me! | 15:03 |
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| vi____ | Just do not forget to set the time! | 15:03 |
| r00t|home | i'd rather use event.d for the date setting stuff | 15:03 |
| vi____ | Yeah | 15:03 |
| vi____ | I will be interested to see what you come up with. | 15:04 |
| r00t|home | what would be nice would be a non-gui gps date setting program (aka not gpsrecorder) | 15:04 |
| vi____ | I imagine there will be a way to do it from a python script. | 15:04 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: bearing in mind though you will be starting the GPS from a cold start. | 15:05 |
| r00t|home | problem is you only get the data via location api, no easy to parse nmea | 15:05 |
| vi____ | It could take forever/never getting the time. | 15:05 |
| r00t|home | i use an external gps most of the time, so that is not an issue | 15:05 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: aah. | 15:05 |
| vi____ | If only there was a simple way to get the time from the phone network. | 15:05 |
| r00t|home | would be nice to try both ntp and gps, whatever works first | 15:05 |
| r00t|home | there is, but nobody (no operator) supports it? | 15:06 |
| vi____ | I do not know. | 15:06 |
| vi____ | All I know SUW is a pain in the dick. | 15:06 |
| r00t|home | _every_ gsm phone has an option for it, but i've never ever seen it work | 15:06 |
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| r00t|home | "date and time" settings on n900 also has an "update automatically" checkbox | 15:07 |
| vi____ | Do you know where thumbnailerd is started? | 15:07 |
| r00t|home | that sure as hell doesn't work... | 15:08 |
| r00t|home | no idea | 15:08 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: yup. | 15:08 |
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| r00t|home | the most fun thing i have is an event.d file that starts pppd on a bluetooth/rfcomm socket so i can dial in from my notebook like with any other phone (just that it connects to the phone as a router instead of the operator network directly) | 15:10 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: please explain. | 15:11 |
| r00t|home | the n900 by default does not give you anything to share it's internet connection? | 15:11 |
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| r00t|home | there is some (payware) app to run a wlan AP (or one could set that up manually) | 15:12 |
| r00t|home | but i prefer bluetooth | 15:12 |
| vi____ | BT==much lower power. | 15:12 |
| vi____ | Is there a nice wiki page explaining how to set this up? | 15:12 |
| r00t|home | i tried to register on the wiki months ago but it doesn't work | 15:12 |
| r00t|home | ~ $ grep [a-z] /etc/event.d/btppp | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | description "ppp dialin via bt" | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | author "r00t" | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | start on MOUNTS_OK | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | stop on starting shutdown | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | console none | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | respawn | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | script | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | /usr/sbin/iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o gprs0 -j MASQUERADE | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | /usr/bin/rfcomm watch rfcomm22 22 /usr/sbin/pppd {} noauth 10.10.10.1:10.10.10.2 | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | end script | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | 15:14 | |
| r00t|home | and then on your notebook, you just setup an rfcomm link and connect pppd to it | 15:14 |
| r00t|home | the only "problem" is that the rfcomm port is not recognized by windows and such as the correct dialup service, so it only works by manually specifying the port (22) | 15:15 |
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| r00t|home | (the service isn't registered with bluetooth service discovery (sdp)) | 15:17 |
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| vi____ | nice | 15:18 |
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| r00t|home | do you know which script mounts the sdcard / where can i make it mount it as ext3 instead of msdos? | 15:44 |
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| int_ua | Is extras builder dying? https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2012-November/date.html | 15:59 |
| vi____ | The sd card is mounted irrespective of FS. | 16:02 |
| vi____ | (as long as the FS is supported by your kernel) | 16:03 |
| vi____ | AFAIK. | 16:03 |
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| r00t|home | vi____: no, it just says displays a message, "card format not supported" when it tries to mount | 16:18 |
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| rhn_mk0 | hi there - is there a way to fix/revert advanced power monitor update on Fremantle | 16:32 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: I am not sure. | 16:34 |
| vi____ | Have you looked at the scripts in /usr/sbin? | 16:35 |
| vi____ | /usr/sbin/mmc-mount | 16:35 |
| vi____ | mmc-rename.sh | 16:35 |
| vi____ | mmc-format | 16:35 |
| vi____ | mmc-check | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | int_ua: autobuilder is out of order since quite some time it seems | 16:36 |
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| vi____ | mmc-mount references 'vfat' and 'ntfs' | 16:36 |
| vi____ | r00t|home: ^^ | 16:36 |
| vi____ | rhn_mk0: I have no idea, what happened? | 16:38 |
| vi____ | Have you tried re-installing it? | 16:38 |
| rhn_mk0 | vi____: the top shelf widget says "starting APMD" and displays empty battery | 16:39 |
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| vi____ | I do not know | 16:39 |
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| vi____ | I would try apt-get purge it. | 16:39 |
| vi____ | THen install it. | 16:39 |
| rhn_mk0 | I'll try | 16:39 |
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| r00t|home | vi____: thanks | 16:43 |
| r00t|home | vi____: replaced it with: exec mount "$1" "$2" ;) | 16:43 |
| rhn_mk0 | vi____: thanks, appears to have helped, somewhat | 16:45 |
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| vi____ | If you learned something new, make a short post about it on TMO so others may benefit from your knowledge. | 16:50 |
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| vi____ | FIQ: Did you get to the bottom of your sip issues? | 17:19 |
| FIQ | did I have any? | 17:19 |
| FIQ | vi____: I don't even use sip | 17:19 |
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| vi____ | Oh, I must be thinking of a different user. | 17:24 |
| vi____ | ...carry on. | 17:24 |
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| vi____ | r00t|home: It seems SUW checks to see if you need the date to be set or not. | 17:40 |
| vi____ | Then decides whether to run. | 17:40 |
| vi____ | So you need a check to see if the date has been set to the default. | 17:40 |
| vi____ | That is easy enough, just check to see if the year is 2009, if so, run your alternative. | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | r00t|home: cssu-t supports ext3 partitions on uSD | 17:47 |
| ShadowJK | hm... Yesterday my local gsm mast was not working. Status said "repair in progress". Now it seems to work, but I also get 3g signal downstairs, at -70dBm. wtf | 17:50 |
| ShadowJK | did they upgrade it to 3g | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | status? | 17:50 |
| r00t|home | vi____: i'd be doing the 2009 thing anyway | 17:51 |
| ShadowJK | The operator has a google maps overlay of faults | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, nice | 17:51 |
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| ShadowJK | Yesterday 4 cone shaped things radiated outwards from where I live, and in the center was "2g Services impaired for some customers, repairs in progress" | 17:52 |
| ShadowJK | by "some" I guess they mean the other transmitters in area doesn't cover everything the dead mast does | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably | 17:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | now if we had a proper cmt with decent servicemode, you could've checked what they're doing | 17:54 |
| ShadowJK | hm well, 700kbyte/s downstairs in living room on 3g | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for example there's a cell-bar flag, that disallows normal phones to connect to the BTS, service mode though can invert that flag's meaning so the phone associates to barred cells only | 17:55 |
| ShadowJK | never seen that before | 17:55 |
| r00t|home | heh | 17:56 |
| * ShadowJK wonders how the hell they pipe that much bandwidth to the local tower | 17:56 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | directional microwave? | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather common method | 17:56 |
| ShadowJK | oh I didn't think they'd push that much over microwave | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can tell by the dish with diameter ~20..30cm on the mast | 17:57 |
| ShadowJK | the other operator in the mast has 25km line of sight to their nearest mast with fibre | 17:58 |
| ShadowJK | dunno about the operator I'm using tho | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? why not? even 2.4GHz 802.11N does up to 100MB | 17:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but actually I heard LTE is a big hoax since they don't have the bandwidth to backbone that they advertise for LTE over_the_air | 18:02 |
| ShadowJK | hehe | 18:02 |
| ShadowJK | 100M? | 18:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | often usual ADSL | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or SDSL | 18:03 |
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| ShadowJK | Luckily the telcos here have a competency gap | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so the up to 100M LTE bandwidth are to a eNodeB that has a uplink of maybe 1M or 10M | 18:04 |
| ShadowJK | They're too incompetent to use adsl | 18:04 |
| ShadowJK | The former monopoly telco has fibreoptic lines hanging on telephone poles, but they have DAC-ADC boxes every kilometer, so the analog bandwidth gets squeezed to 5kbit/s or whatever :) | 18:06 |
| ShadowJK | they can't even do dsl on them, it's hilarious | 18:06 |
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| ShadowJK | The smallest cell operator has proper fibre running along main roads, and then microwave in towers 50km either side of the road | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | same problem here, no DSL with fibre. It's not exactly telcos' fault, it seems there are simply no DSL<->fibre units available on market | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my friend lived in a large industrial bulding complex, and he couldn't get DSL since the whole block got fibre. They finally were smart enough to route a copper cable from outside the building to his flat | 18:11 |
| ShadowJK | Well here it's also that they installed that fibreoptic thing before dsl existed | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, same here | 18:12 |
| ShadowJK | so it's voice bandwidth only | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's actually very ISDN centric | 18:12 |
| ShadowJK | fibre-vdsl / sdsl surely exists though? | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so best you can get are 2*64kB | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we got copper-VDSL | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fibre-to-home is *very* rare here | 18:13 |
| ShadowJK | fibre - vdsl on copper? | 18:13 |
| ShadowJK | Yeah we had to build our own fibre here ;p | 18:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, they link the DSLAM in the switchbox next corner with optical fibre | 18:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | from there on it's VDSL on copper | 18:15 |
| ShadowJK | maybe operator rented some of our dark fibre, though I didn't see any new patches couple weeks ago when I visited this area's central last time.. and I would have noticed the excavator | 18:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very-high-bit-rate_digital_subscriber_line#Europe | 18:21 |
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| vi____ | Damn. | 18:25 |
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| vi____ | Is there a mobile phone provider that does not compress images like O2? | 18:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vi____: hmm? | 18:28 |
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| vi____ | It would seem the O2 network intercept images(pictures) and re-compress them on the fly to save on bandwidth. | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you got image compression on HTTP? | 18:29 |
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| ShadowJK | Oh yeah, seems many operators in UK and USA intercept web traffic and recompress images to lower quality | 18:30 |
| vi____ | Is that even legal? | 18:30 |
| ShadowJK | some also insert javascript to produce context menus offering full quality pic | 18:30 |
| ShadowJK | if you want a single specific pic in original quality.. | 18:30 |
| ShadowJK | dunno | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess if they do that's a service they offer to you, and most likely you can avoid that by using a different APN, or by setting up your account on some website they offer for that pupose | 18:30 |
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| ShadowJK | on one hand I'm kinda sad many sites are moving to https, because my squid proxy wont be caching much anymore, but then again hopefully it puts a stop to intercept-modify | 18:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | after all what's the benefit for operator in doing that? you're 'charged by the megabyte' usually | 18:32 |
| ShadowJK | Although, there are companies making transparent proxies capable of intercepting and decrypting https on the fly without browser's notifying the user (except google chrome, for specific google sites) | 18:32 |
| vi____ | ShadowJK: A MITM attack? | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: hardly possible | 18:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, they possibly can decrypt, but not alter content | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vi____: simple solution: use a proxy on your own box | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | via https | 18:35 |
| vi____ | DocScrutinizer05: ugh. | 18:36 |
| vi____ | I have a limited upstream of 100kb/s on my home internet. | 18:36 |
| vi____ | What an utter ballache. | 18:37 |
| vi____ | Why is there something crippled on every network? | 18:37 |
| vi____ | O2, obnoxious traffic manipulation. | 18:38 |
| vi____ | Tmobile, SIP is blocked. | 18:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | vi____: maybe you can find somebody with a box with FAAAT backbone who'd be willing to offer you an account ;-D | 18:41 |
| vi____ | DocScrutinizer05: do you have one? | 18:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | guess what's maemo.cloud-7 | 18:42 |
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| vi____ | DocScrutinizer05: my new proxy? | 18:42 |
| vi____ | credz pls. | 18:42 |
| vi____ | adduser vi_ now plox. | 18:42 |
| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; basically browsers don't check much | 18:43 |
| ShadowJK | so if you have a fancy enough cert with which to sign, browser accepts it, even if the signing key isn't the one the site is really supposed to be signed with | 18:44 |
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| kerio | vi____: echo foo | sudo gainroot? | 19:13 |
| kerio | HELL NO | 19:13 |
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| kgu | where to find changelog for 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo6? | 19:33 |
| tadzik | on tmo | 19:34 |
| kgu | can't find changelog for testing flavor.. | 19:34 |
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| tadzik | it's in testing thread, merlin1991 posted it | 19:34 |
| kgu | ohh, no wiki page? | 19:35 |
| kerio | the wiki is kinda broken atm | 19:35 |
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| kgu | ok, thx | 19:37 |
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| kerio | vi____: no, seriously, every time you echo something to sudo gainroot, god kills a kitten | 19:45 |
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| Pali | ~seen X-Fade | 19:49 |
| infobot | x-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego #maemo-ssu, last said: 'ZogG_laptop: ?'. | 19:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: do you expect that to change? | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: might as well be a zombie irssi session on some forgotton server | 20:07 |
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| RST38h | Doc: By the way, have you encountered a CSSU bug where Opera crashes when started from the desktop? | 20:11 |
| RST38h | Doc: But works fine from xterm | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not using opera | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sounds weird though | 20:12 |
| RST38h | similar problem happened before with BrainBench (I think) | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 20:13 |
| Drathir | hi all... | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try redirecting stdin/out to dev/null, use run-standalone.sh | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check dbus stuff | 20:14 |
| tadzik | RST38h: that's operabug, not maemobug | 20:14 |
| * RST38h will wait for freemangordon and WHINE =) | 20:14 | |
| RST38h | tadzik: Sure about it? Opera worked fine before a few latest CSSU updates | 20:14 |
| tadzik | yes | 20:14 |
| RST38h | tadzik: Still works fine from xterm | 20:15 |
| tadzik | yes | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wut? cssu? | 20:15 |
| Drathir | im testing dillo looks nice, exclude no touch evry place scrolling only right scrollbar... | 20:15 |
| tadzik | also, I thunk it fixed itself a while ago :) | 20:15 |
| RST38h | not here | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's any of cssu patches going to change the way opera works? | 20:15 |
| tadzik | it's not a problem with opera the binary, but something related to browserjs it downloads from opera servers | 20:15 |
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| RST38h | any way to reset it? | 20:16 |
| tadzik | RST38h: does it work for you on wifi? | 20:16 |
| RST38h | does not matter what connection I am using | 20:16 |
| tadzik | weird then | 20:16 |
| RST38h | how do I reset browserjs? | 20:17 |
| tadzik | you don't reset it | 20:19 |
| tadzik | you may try renaming your .opera or whatsitsname | 20:19 |
| RST38h | ah ok | 20:20 |
| tadzik | not sure if that'd help tho | 20:20 |
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| ShadowJK | opera works fine from launcher now for me | 20:42 |
| kerio | worksforme too | 20:42 |
| ShadowJK | also new stuff appeared in speed dial after it stopped crashing | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ?? | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which speed dial? which new stuff? | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | some opera specific thing? | 20:44 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 ponders launching opera. If it's maybe already installed | 20:45 | |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | opera 11.50.14 WFM | 20:48 |
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| ShadowJK | a grid of "bookmarks" | 20:49 |
| ShadowJK | iirc there was only opera and bbc news there by default before | 20:49 |
| ShadowJK | now g+, gmail, google search, opera mobile store (android only lol), opera sports news, my opera, bbc news | 20:50 |
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| RST38h | Maybe I need to reinstall | 20:51 |
| RST38h | or delete .opera | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ShadowJK: found '*1' etc speeddials | 20:53 |
| ShadowJK | try delete the broser js | 20:53 |
| ShadowJK | oh hm, I dont have it anymore | 20:54 |
| ShadowJK | was a 115-ish k file in .opera | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | nokiagadgets.com/2011/11/03/opera-mobile-11-5-for-symbian-maemo-and-meegorunning-on-intels-soc/ takes forever to render though, in opera | 20:57 |
| ShadowJK | full of javascript to path buggy websites on the fly | 20:58 |
| RST38h | A'ok | 21:00 |
| RST38h | KILLED. | 21:01 |
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| RST38h | Seems to work now | 21:14 |
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| RST38h | ShadowJK: thanks! | 21:15 |
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| Drathir | helium browser dont work for me goin to try others avaible.... | 21:33 |
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| kerio | hm, helium browser is cool | 22:24 |
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| NeutrinoPower | works Firefox 17 on Maemo? | 22:28 |
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| SpeedEvil | the re is no prevuilt version, that I am aware of | 22:29 |
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| kerio | NeutrinoPower: it's basically unusable outside of cssu-thumb, it uses too much ram | 22:53 |
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| amospalla | even with thumb its quite slow | 22:56 |
| NeutrinoPower | and midori? | 22:56 |
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| amospalla | I've used debian's midori inside chroot, its a nice one, but not comfortable to use without keyboard and mouse | 22:57 |
| amospalla | I suggest opera | 22:57 |
| kerio | i just don't get what's wrong with microb | 22:58 |
| amospalla | I feel opera faster, loading and moving on websites | 22:58 |
| amospalla | also, multitab works really well, and the zoom function is unique to it right now | 22:59 |
| amospalla | I use microb when need flash only | 22:59 |
| amospalla | AFAIK, latest opera works better with heavy js sites than microb | 23:00 |
| amospalla | but still, I would prefer using fennec.. :/ | 23:01 |
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| vi__ | well, we need to build a debian squeeze armhf chroot. | 23:08 |
| vi__ | to eek the last power out of the n900. | 23:08 |
| vi__ | I tried changing ed image to arch armhf. | 23:10 |
| vi__ | It ruined everything. | 23:10 |
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| Drathir | amospalla: fennec works for you smoothly? O.o | 23:18 |
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| kerio | vi____: EEEEEEEVERYTHING | 23:20 |
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| amospalla | Drathir: no | 23:38 |
| amospalla | I meant, I wish it could run | 23:39 |
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