| DocScrutinizer51 | dunno | 00:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | gpio works fine with device locked | 00:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | gpio notavailable, says pali | 00:01 |
| Pali | you can cat gpio from /sys/sometinh | 00:02 |
| Pali | *something | 00:02 |
| Pali | but I do not know full path | 00:02 |
| Pali | HAL sending all gpio state too | 00:02 |
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| Pali | (in maemo is Nokia patched HAL with special gpio addon which reading Nokia specified /sys/ gpio interface) | 00:03 |
| Sysaxed | damn, all I want to do is make volume up key to trigger song change | 00:03 |
| Pali | volume key is grabbed by hildon-something | 00:03 |
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| Pali | so reading Xevent will not work | 00:04 |
| Pali | but there is some Xatom for getting that volume key in some application | 00:04 |
| Pali | openmediaplayer has that implemented | 00:04 |
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| Sysaxed | as far as I remember there was API for that | 00:05 |
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| Pali | with that X atom property you will tell hildon-something or window manager? to tell application volume key event | 00:05 |
| Sysaxed | :\ | 00:07 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xchat does it | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xterm does it | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | microb too | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xchat actually best testbed | 00:10 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, when they're focused | 00:10 |
| Pali | try here: http://doc.qt.digia.com/qt-maemo/index.html | 00:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Sysaxed: good point | 00:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Sysaxed: but actually you don't want your media player to catch volume keys unconditionally | 00:13 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, well, first of all I want to catch these events anyway | 00:13 |
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| Sysaxed | even if it's not focused, even if device is locked | 00:13 |
| Sysaxed | and then I'll find a way to get rid of unwanted cases | 00:14 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | device locked doesn't mean last upfront app losing focus | 00:14 |
| Sysaxed | what if "swipe to unlock" shit comes up? | 00:15 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Sysaxed: you'll run a deadend street with that approach | 00:15 |
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| Sysaxed | why? | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | your method you picked to catch vol unconditionally might not offer any method to 'get rid of unwted cases' | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | unwanted* | 00:17 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, for example "if device is not locked - change song. otherwise do nothing" | 00:17 |
| Sysaxed | oops | 00:17 |
| Sysaxed | if device is locked - change song | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | do nothing doesn't mean any other app receives the event | 00:17 |
| Sysaxed | good point | 00:17 |
| Sysaxed | so, still I don't understand what is the best way to do that | 00:18 |
| Pali | Sysaxed, here is qt example for volume keys: http://doc.qt.digia.com/qt-maemo/maemo5-zoom.html | 00:19 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'd check dbus first | 00:19 |
| Pali | _HILDON_ZOOM_KEY_ATOM | 00:19 |
| Pali | and then mapped to Key_F7 and Key_F8 | 00:19 |
| Sysaxed | The zoom keys are mapped to F7 and F8 by default. | 00:20 |
| Sysaxed | wtf, lol | 00:20 |
| Sysaxed | thank you guys, you are awesome | 00:20 |
| MrPingu | hmm, is the google search in MicroB-hardcoded? | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | toldya | 00:20 |
| Sysaxed | so, gonna go get some food now | 00:21 |
| Sysaxed | and then maybe I'll go to bed... | 00:21 |
| * DocScrutinizer51 just finished eating | 00:21 | |
| Sysaxed | but if I'll come with a solution I'll let ya know | 00:21 |
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| Pali | unsigned long val = 1; Atom atom = XInternAtom(display, "_HILDON_ZOOM_KEY_ATOM", False); XChangeProperty (display, winid, atom, XA_INTEGER, 32, PropModeReplace, &val, 1); | 00:23 |
| Pali | ^^^ this C code enable zoom/volume keys for window winid on X display | 00:23 |
| Pali | Sysaxed, see ^ | 00:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | I wrap my head around linux input stuf from /dev/input and modmap_etc til X everyother year, and when I reach the end of that chain I already forgot about how start works :-/ | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the whole input is incredible layer hell | 00:31 |
| SpeedEvil | :-) | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | X didn't exactly help | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | next time I should draw a nice diagram with layered blocks to visualize who's talking what to whom | 00:34 |
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| merlin1991 | setting up windows server 2008 in kvm with ide drivers is a pain | 01:04 |
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| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, Pali it's not going to work | 01:17 |
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| Sysaxed | sudo cat /dev/input/keypad | 01:18 |
| Sysaxed | now press volume keys - you'll see some garbage | 01:18 |
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| Sysaxed | if you lock the screen - nothing is going to be displayed | 01:18 |
| Pali | so then mce eating keys? | 01:19 |
| Sysaxed | looks like | 01:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | hey, my volume keys work (for volume) when device locked, afaik | 01:19 |
| Sysaxed | it works if you get to the "swipe to unlock" screen | 01:20 |
| Sysaxed | but if the display is off - it's not working | 01:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no | 01:20 |
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| Sysaxed | /dev/input/pwrbutton works | 01:21 |
| Sysaxed | dunno if it's because it opens up a "swipe to unlock" screen or why | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | playing music with stock mediaplayer, device in holser, locked. I get volume control working | 01:21 |
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| Sysaxed | how... | 01:22 |
| Sysaxed | media player is closed source, right? | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I think it's an mce.ini setting | 01:22 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, there's nothing in mce.ini about it | 01:23 |
| Sysaxed | what is a "home key" ? | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a N8x0 thing | 01:27 |
| Sysaxed | why it's in mce of n900?? | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mce.ini is full of legacy | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's same file for all devices | 01:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I cleaned mine up ;-D | 01:28 |
| Sysaxed | so, as far as I can see, the only way to map some commands to a key is to use a power button | 01:30 |
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| Sysaxed | it's a pity that all these buttons cannot be used | 01:31 |
| Sysaxed | or maybe they can? with some kind of mce hack | 01:32 |
| Sysaxed | alright, good night everybody! | 01:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | # 2 - leave keypad interrupts on even after blanking | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | # (used to support pass-through of +/-) | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, he's gone | 01:39 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/06/0128255/nokia-suspends-its-free-developer-program :-\ | 04:01 |
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| narcos | Hm, last time i flashed my n900 I can't remember if I did the VANILLA_PR_EMMC first, or the PR_COMBINED | 10:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | do combined, vanilla, combined again. 100% failsafe | 11:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | narcos: ^ | 11:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | if you really wanna flash vanilla eMMC | 11:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | usually not needed | 11:32 |
| narcos | DocScrutinizer51: Cool, thanks | 11:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | np, yw | 11:33 |
| narcos | Long time no 'see' :) | 11:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~flash | 11:33 |
| infobot | from memory, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 11:33 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer51: I feel like "used" devices need to get a vanilla-razorshave | 11:37 |
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| vi_ | ffs | 12:05 |
| vi_ | does nokia suite on windows 7 work for anyone? | 12:05 |
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| vi_ | does anyone have any experiance with the n900 replacement housings from fleabay? | 12:58 |
| vi_ | http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-Nokia-Housing-For-N900-Front-Panel-Middle-Case-Fascia-Keypad-Back-Cover-/00/s/MTE1OVgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqN,!rUF!d!TRpCDBQSVW%28c5oQ~~60_10.JPG | 12:58 |
| vi_ | for example. | 12:58 |
| vi_ | The keyboard looks like a better quality replacement than the normal junk you get. | 12:59 |
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| SpeedEvil | hmm | 13:02 |
| vi_ | I mean the KB you normally get on ebay for the n900 is utter shit. It feels funny and the characters are printed all wrong. | 13:05 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | moinmoin | 13:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | in xchat, is there any option to disable or delete that nasty chan-close button (lower left, under chantab bar with my setup)? | 14:23 |
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| Lava_Croft | yes, dont use xchat | 16:33 |
| Lava_Croft | solved | 16:33 |
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| vi_ | misterc on TMO has apparently found a source of n900 otterboxes! | 16:45 |
| vi_ | but he will not tell anyone. | 16:45 |
| vi_ | He wants people to go 'through' him to get one. | 16:46 |
| vi_ | WTF. | 16:46 |
| StyXman | otterboxes? | 16:46 |
| vi_ | armour for your n900. | 16:47 |
| StyXman | hmm | 16:47 |
| vi_ | For when your n900 is not big enough | 16:47 |
| vi_ | heavy enough | 16:47 |
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| vi_ | tough enough. | 16:47 |
| vi_ | Put it inside a protective armour box. | 16:47 |
| StyXman | I guess once you have one you can simply copy the model and 3d-print it | 16:48 |
| vi_ | The manufacturer has stopped making them and they are now quite hard to get. | 16:48 |
| vi_ | StyXman: you would need a pretty good 3d printer to get all the finer details. | 16:48 |
| StyXman | and a pretty good 3d designer, yes, I know | 16:50 |
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| Lava_Croft | goddakmnit | 17:17 |
| Lava_Croft | those otterboxes look great | 17:17 |
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| vi_ | well, you cannot get one now. | 17:20 |
| StyXman | yeah, they convert you n900 into a weapon for self-defense | 17:23 |
| Lava_Croft | usually pulling out the n900, in these days, works the same as that Monty Python joke | 17:24 |
| Lava_Croft | that made all the Germand die from laughter | 17:24 |
| Lava_Croft | Germans* | 17:24 |
| Lava_Croft | The laughter usually faints once you get the job done which the other person can't | 17:24 |
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| chem|st | Lava_Croft: they laugh exactly as long as it takes me to startup remote controls and switch off some TVs... | 17:26 |
| Lava_Croft | well, that would keep them laughing in my case | 17:26 |
| Lava_Croft | since ive been doing that since pre-y2k | 17:27 |
| Lava_Croft | with my Palm IIIxe | 17:27 |
| Lava_Croft | but in the case of a stranger, yes | 17:27 |
| Lava_Croft | the best thing remains the FM transmitter tho | 17:27 |
| chem|st | "why did you do that?" - "cause you remained laughing at my phone!" | 17:27 |
| vi_ | de-auth their access point and kick them all off the wifi. | 17:27 |
| Lava_Croft | Breaking into people's radio stations is awesome | 17:27 |
| vi_ | win. | 17:27 |
| Lava_Croft | especially in traffic jams | 17:27 |
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| vi_ | Lava_Croft: route the phone mic to the fmtx. | 17:28 |
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| chem|st | Lava_Croft: yeah my sister... so cool "you have a very nice radiostation, what channel is that?" - "it is my phone..." | 17:28 |
| vi_ | You can talk over the FM radio. | 17:28 |
| Lava_Croft | vi_: yup | 17:28 |
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| vi_ | I just bought 2 more n900. | 17:30 |
| vi_ | I might have to get a 3rd. | 17:30 |
| Lava_Croft | i already have two, more than enough | 17:30 |
| Lava_Croft | they are mostly being used as overpowered mediaplayer anyway | 17:31 |
| vi_ | 1 for me. | 17:31 |
| vi_ | 1 for mrs vi_ | 17:31 |
| Lava_Croft | mrs has an iphone:) | 17:31 |
| vi_ | 1 for developing | 17:31 |
| vi_ | 1 mint condition for spare. | 17:31 |
| vi_ | phones are so massive these days. | 17:32 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 17:32 |
| vi_ | we seem to have regressed to the size of a brick. | 17:32 |
| Lava_Croft | i dont get why phones have to be the size of a netbook these days | 17:32 |
| vi_ | with similar features. | 17:32 |
| vi_ | mrs just bought a nexus 7. | 17:33 |
| Lava_Croft | the largest button in my wife's ios6.1 Maps ui is "Report a problem" | 17:33 |
| vi_ | dont worry, I rolled my eyse too. | 17:33 |
| Lava_Croft | or something similair | 17:33 |
| Lava_Croft | nexus7 is nice | 17:33 |
| Lava_Croft | i have one! | 17:33 |
| Lava_Croft | price/quality is outstanding | 17:33 |
| Lava_Croft | i can live with the shit OS | 17:33 |
| vi_ | is it true it does not support writing to external filesystem when using USB host mode? | 17:34 |
| Lava_Croft | probably not, we dont even use it for that | 17:34 |
| vi_ | have you root it? | 17:34 |
| Lava_Croft | nope | 17:35 |
| vi_ | do you need to? | 17:35 |
| Lava_Croft | rooting it still makes it shit | 17:35 |
| Lava_Croft | no | 17:35 |
| Lava_Croft | android cant be fixed | 17:35 |
| vi_ | what is the single most important thing a person should do to get the most out of it? | 17:35 |
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| Lava_Croft | probably the only thing one can do is update to latest jelly bean | 17:36 |
| vi_ | And why the hell it does not have an usd slot. | 17:36 |
| Lava_Croft | overall the tablet is, for being a tablet, pretty complete | 17:36 |
| Lava_Croft | because its a tablet which is made with cost in mind | 17:36 |
| vi_ | made with price level stratification in mind. | 17:36 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 17:37 |
| Lava_Croft | and looking at the price, they did a really good job | 17:37 |
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| Lava_Croft | the only thing i would really do is install a different launcher | 17:38 |
| Lava_Croft | so you get a bit more customization options for it | 17:38 |
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| Lava_Croft | oh yeah, and make sure you have two devices with Minecraft Pocket Edition | 17:40 |
| Lava_Croft | its great in multiplayer over wifi | 17:40 |
| vi_ | minecraft, I have no patience for this. | 17:42 |
| Lava_Croft | I was about to say, hanging around Maemo community and having problems with patience | 17:43 |
| Lava_Croft | that must make life really tough on you:) | 17:43 |
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| vi_ | Lava_Croft: You know android right? | 18:23 |
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| vi_ | riddle me some questions if you will. | 18:23 |
| vi_ | Can you interact with an android device in a meaningful way thorugh sshh? | 18:24 |
| Lava_Croft | i know very little about android, because i think its a shit os | 18:27 |
| Lava_Croft | i try to use it as little as possible | 18:27 |
| Lava_Croft | dinnertime now | 18:27 |
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| kerio | vi_: i wouldn't think so | 18:30 |
| kerio | it's not really meant to be possible | 18:30 |
| kerio | i mean, i don't think it's going to be much more useful than sshing into an iphone | 18:31 |
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| vi_ | kerio: I do not know about that either. | 18:40 |
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| vi__ | it would seem the term refurbished has been redefined. | 19:52 |
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| vi__ | from: good as new, rebuilt with new parts as needed. | 19:52 |
| vi__ | to: totally shagged by a cack handed spacktard. | 19:53 |
| vi__ | 'nah bro, that will totally buff out!' | 19:56 |
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| Sysaxed | <vi_> Can you interact with an android device in a meaningful way thorugh sshh? | 20:43 |
| Sysaxed | you can ssh to it, but what are going to do with once you are in? | 20:43 |
| Sysaxed | with it* | 20:43 |
| SpeedEvil | android is similar to what 'boot to wine' might be | 20:44 |
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| Sysaxed | vi_, you can run an app... what else.. | 20:49 |
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| Sysaxed | to get some linuxness you can install busy box | 20:50 |
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| Sysaxed | what is the future of maemo? Is there any future at all? It's the best device currently but we're still unable to get through closed source parts | 21:09 |
| SpeedEvil | none | 21:13 |
| SpeedEvil | the hardware may continue on in some way for a couple more years. | 21:14 |
| SpeedEvil | but... | 21:14 |
| Cor-Ai | no buts! | 21:14 |
| SpeedEvil | hopefully jollamobile will release hardware of some form | 21:14 |
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| SpeedEvil | which might in some ways be called a development parallel to maemo | 21:15 |
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| Sysaxed | what's the point of a newer hardware? | 21:16 |
| Sysaxed | the one n900 has is fine | 21:16 |
| SpeedEvil | 256m ram is extremely limiting for the browser | 21:16 |
| Sysaxed | no, it's fine | 21:17 |
| Sysaxed | I've just restarted my n900 | 21:18 |
| Sysaxed | 142 RAM + 15 swap is used | 21:18 |
| Sysaxed | holy shit, my desktop pc uses 100 when booted | 21:18 |
| Sysaxed | hildon-home - 26 M | 21:18 |
| Sysaxed | browserd 26 M | 21:18 |
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| vi__ | i assure you, 256 is not enough! | 21:26 |
| Sysaxed | vi_, why would you need more? | 21:27 |
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| RiD | hello there. | 21:31 |
| Sysaxed | hi :) | 21:32 |
| RiD | how is the N9's price, currently? | 21:33 |
| Sysaxed | is n9 realy worth buying? | 21:37 |
| Sysaxed | is it even better than n900? | 21:37 |
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| RiD | the fact is that i sent my phone to nokia repair a bit over a month ago, with an e-mail where i talk about how the usb can be part of a design flaw, etc etc etc | 21:38 |
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| RiD | blablab blub lbubl bilililil . They (not surprising) refused to repair it. A bit over 1 month was needed to simply say that. Now, my friend is arriving with the phone... though i'm a bit suspicious it might be all f*__ed up from the Nokia Care not-so-care "journey". Perhaps worse than it was when I sent it. | 21:39 |
| RiD | However, while i do not know many details, my friend said they would give the "successor" if i paid them 160€... | 21:39 |
| Sysaxed | n900? no resistive touchscreen? | 21:40 |
| RiD | wha | 21:40 |
| RiD | N9 has a resistive touchscreen | 21:41 |
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| RiD | i mean N900. N9 is capacitive | 21:41 |
| Sysaxed | n9* | 21:41 |
| Sysaxed | sorry | 21:41 |
| Sysaxed | keyboard?? | 21:41 |
| RiD | virtual.. anyways. I might buy the N9 (and then sell it again) if they give me my N900 with faulty microUSB | 21:42 |
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| Sysaxed | well, no keyboard, no resistive touch screen | 21:45 |
| Sysaxed | I'd throw it out of the window | 21:45 |
| Sysaxed | but some stupid bitch might like it | 21:45 |
| Sysaxed | because it looks like an IPhone | 21:45 |
| Sysaxed | haha | 21:45 |
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| Sysaxed | The N9 has two microphones and a loudspeaker situated at the bottom of the phone. | 21:47 |
| Sysaxed | did I get it right? | 21:47 |
| Sysaxed | two mics and ONE speaker?? | 21:47 |
| Sysaxed | something is wrong here... | 21:47 |
| RiD | don't ask me lol | 21:47 |
| RiD | stereo recording? | 21:47 |
| RiD | yet mono playback | 21:47 |
| Sysaxed | who would care about stereo recording on a phone? :D | 21:48 |
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| kerio | more mics -> more quality | 21:49 |
| Sysaxed | more speakers -> louder music | 21:49 |
| kerio | phone -> crappy speakers | 21:49 |
| kerio | so no need for speakers | 21:49 |
| Sysaxed | no, that's exactly why you need more speakers | 21:49 |
| Sicelo | they said it's for noise cancellation during phone calls, lol | 21:49 |
| kerio | Sicelo: it makes sense | 21:50 |
| Sysaxed | no sense.. | 21:50 |
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| Sysaxed | why did they forget n900 to make n9 shit? | 21:52 |
| kerio | vi__: how do i 80x24 on a terminal | 21:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: mazal tov on being council :P | 21:52 |
| kerio | ZogG_laptop: he's what? | 21:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | council memeber :P | 21:53 |
| kerio | lolwut | 21:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | check maillist | 21:53 |
| MrPingu | Haven't check maillist for a long time :o | 21:54 |
| MrPingu | I feel bad now | 21:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | mentalist, ivgalvez, doc, qwazix and neildk | 21:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | just got mail | 21:54 |
| RiD | ok guys! | 21:55 |
| RiD | nokia said my phone is irrepairable due to having damaged pads on the motherboard... | 21:55 |
| kerio | buy a new one | 21:56 |
| RiD | now, the pic they have on the paper is unclear because the printer sucks and everything is too bland, lol | 21:56 |
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| ZogG_laptop | RiD: usb? | 21:56 |
| RiD | yes | 21:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | RiD: welcome to the club | 21:56 |
| RiD | lol | 21:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | wait for jolla or bb10 | 21:56 |
| RiD | what exactly are pads? | 21:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | or buy 3310 | 21:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | RiD: the electric contacts | 21:57 |
| RiD | so basically its really irrepairable? | 21:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | like small metalic parts on motherboard | 21:57 |
| kerio | nah, it's *kinda* easy if you know what you're doing with a soldering gun | 21:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | depends | 21:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | few people solved it | 21:57 |
| RiD | so its a bit like hte ones on the usb fix topic or something? | 21:57 |
| RiD | Not exactly like that, im afraid? | 21:57 |
| kerio | RiD: it should be exactly that | 21:57 |
| RiD | oh... | 21:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | few advices to soil it to motherboard with cables — it's all on TMO | 21:58 |
| RiD | Well, i'll talk to the guy tomorrow at nokia care | 21:58 |
| RiD | yes i've seen those threads | 21:58 |
| RiD | basically my friend said that the guy on nokia care said that i could get the N900's "successor" phone for about 180€ | 21:58 |
| kerio | the N9? | 21:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | 180 what? | 21:59 |
| kerio | eeeeeeh | 21:59 |
| RiD | I have 20-and something days to decide. | 21:59 |
| kerio | it's more like a retarded cousin | 21:59 |
| RiD | kerio well, i dont know. thats why im going there | 21:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | n9 is nice but dead | 21:59 |
| RiD | because really, there is no successor | 21:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | damn, again :P | 21:59 |
| RiD | im going to ask all details, and if I buy it, will I keep my old N900, etc bla bla | 21:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | anyway i hope u get lumia then :P | 21:59 |
| RiD | If yes - and if it's a N9 or an expensive phone that people might be interested in buying... | 22:00 |
| RiD | i'd go for it. | 22:00 |
| kerio | buy lumia, sell lumia, buy two n900s | 22:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | 180 what? what currency? | 22:00 |
| RiD | € | 22:00 |
| RiD | euros | 22:00 |
| RiD | "about". Since my friend doesn't know the exact price and stuff. I'll have all my doubts solved tomorrow afternoon | 22:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think it's almost the prive of new one :P | 22:00 |
| RiD | depends on the phone | 22:00 |
| vi__ | kerio: get a different terminal. | 22:01 |
| RiD | also, I think i'll end up sending my N900 to someone here who knows how to repair | 22:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | kerio: sell 2 n900 — buy 5 3310 | 22:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | RiD: good luck with that | 22:02 |
| RiD | i'm not trusting an half-hassed repair house that might just screw it even more :| | 22:02 |
| RiD | i'll have to study the shipping prices and stuff... might end up not being worth it :( | 22:02 |
| RiD | this because nokia decided to be a twat and save 1cent on the usb port :D | 22:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | RiD: where are you from? | 22:03 |
| RiD | Portugal | 22:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | find solering masters | 22:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | i fixed mine | 22:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | and put expo and ruined that way the day i repeaired it :P | 22:03 |
| RiD | why did you put expo | 22:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | gave to my friend who knew girl who can solder with needle and she fixed it :P | 22:04 |
| RiD | wow | 22:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | RiD: so i don't rip it off again | 22:04 |
| RiD | isn't expo or w/e a glue brand? | 22:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's her work | 22:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | RiD: it's glue but really strong one(not in meaning of superglue) | 22:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's like glue* | 22:05 |
| kerio | ~usbfix | 22:05 |
| infobot | it has been said that usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 22:05 |
| RiD | epoxy right | 22:05 |
| RiD | i could try fixing it with a hammer | 22:06 |
| RiD | but i'm afraid of breaking the hammer | 22:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | kerio: i did it before it was cool and bot knew it :P | 22:06 |
| Sicelo | lol. my N900 will sometimes start playing my playlist automatically after a missed call | 22:14 |
| Sicelo | this happens as soon as the ringtone stops. weird | 22:18 |
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| kerio | Sicelo: Open Media Player? | 22:40 |
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| Sysaxed | "<ZogG_laptop> kerio: sell 2 n900 — buy 5 3310" you could buy about 15 3310 for that amount of money | 23:05 |
| Sysaxed | maybe 30 | 23:07 |
| deepy\SIGSEGV | I wonder if I can sell my N900 for more than I paid for it | 23:08 |
| Sysaxed | deepy\SIGSEGV, how much did you pay? | 23:08 |
| kerio | deepy\SIGSEGV: why do you want to sell it :( | 23:09 |
| deepy\SIGSEGV | So I can buy another and sell that | 23:09 |
| deepy\SIGSEGV | pushing the prices up, gradually making people believe there's a huge market in it | 23:10 |
| deepy\SIGSEGV | Also, cheaper than trying to fix the keyboard :P | 23:10 |
| deepy\SIGSEGV | err, the slider sensor | 23:10 |
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| deepy\SIGSEGV | 140EUR | 23:12 |
| deepy\SIGSEGV | or no, that was teh wrong one | 23:12 |
| deepy\SIGSEGV | 120 | 23:12 |
| Sysaxed | well, I've bought my n900 for 75€ | 23:13 |
| Sysaxed | and now it's possible to buy one for 70€ | 23:13 |
| Sysaxed | it had one little scratch on the side, everything else is fine :> | 23:13 |
| Sysaxed | had to wait for a half of a year to find it... | 23:13 |
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| Skry | mm, local "flea market" site has six currently, cheapest is 60e and is in horrible condition | 23:18 |
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| Skry | I think I'm going to offer him 30e, could use a spare | 23:25 |
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| sonofabit | hello | 23:33 |
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| Sysaxed | In July 2012 Jolla Mobile, a Finnish company founded by former Nokia employees involved in MeeGo development, announced their work on a smartphone that would run a Mer-based Operating System. Jolla intends to announce its first smartphone product during 2012.[10] | 23:34 |
| Sysaxed | why am I thinking that it's going to be a total crap? | 23:34 |
| Sysaxed | like another device without physical keybaord | 23:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a lot cheaper | 23:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't think a physical keyboard determines crappiness. | 23:34 |
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| Sysaxed | well, unfortunately it does | 23:35 |
| sonofabit | are there any other repositories than extras/devel/testing and ssu apps/mr0? | 23:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | OK then. | 23:36 |
| Sysaxed | if we wanted a phone without physical keyboard - we could live with iphones or similar android devices | 23:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm more concerned with what the phone is running than rather or not it has a keyboard | 23:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | Would a Windows Mobile device with a physical keyboard be amazing? | 23:36 |
| Sysaxed | well, why would you need all linux features if you can't even type all needed symbols in a terminal? | 23:37 |
| Sysaxed | like | | 23:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | You can type more of the symbols you need with the softkeyboard than a physical keyboard, in my experience. | 23:37 |
| Sysaxed | lol | 23:37 |
| Sysaxed | tell me what I CAN'T type with my physical keyboard | 23:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | | | 23:37 |
| Sysaxed | I can | 23:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | tab | 23:38 |
| Sysaxed | I can | 23:38 |
| Sysaxed | for | shift+fn+l | 23:38 |
| Sysaxed | for tab fn+enter | 23:38 |
| Sysaxed | anything else? | 23:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | and you can type those things on a virtual keyboard | 23:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | So I'm not really sure what the point is? | 23:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | Actually, I'm not sure why I'm responding to this. | 23:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes, Jolla will be crap. You should buy something else. | 23:39 |
| Sysaxed | while [ true ]; do echo "Can't imagine you typing this as fast as I can do it"; sleep 1; done | 23:39 |
| Sysaxed | it's fine if you have to type 10 symbols in a row with a virtual keyboard | 23:40 |
| Sysaxed | but going back and forth from letters to symbols... | 23:40 |
| Sysaxed | well, you know... | 23:40 |
| Sysaxed | maybe you're just not that terminal guy like I am | 23:40 |
| Sysaxed | GeneralAntilles, http://wiki.maemo.org/Remapping_keyboard/user_vis_awesome_kbdmapping | 23:42 |
| Sysaxed | the only thing I can't use is "Insert" key | 23:42 |
| Sysaxed | hmmm | 23:42 |
| sonofabit | are there other repositories than extras? | 23:45 |
| Sysaxed | sonofabit, testing and devel | 23:46 |
| sonofabit | other than that? | 23:46 |
| Sysaxed | hmm, no? | 23:46 |
| sonofabit | cause i got one app i cant find | 23:46 |
| Sysaxed | which one? | 23:46 |
| sonofabit | i mean i got it on my old n900 | 23:46 |
| sonofabit | quick status changer for im | 23:47 |
| sonofabit | and i can't seem to get facebook to connect but it's less important | 23:47 |
| RzR | GeneralAntilles, what's the problem w/ jolla ? I dont want to fire a troll , but i am pretty exited about a true qt platform | 23:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | RzR, nothing's wrong with Jolla. I'm excited, too. I was checking out of that conversation. ;) | 23:49 |
| RzR | ok missread | 23:49 |
| RzR | just curious how will you react if jolla-1 is just a n950 :) | 23:50 |
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| Sysaxed | that would be awesome | 23:51 |
| Sysaxed | :D | 23:51 |
| RzR | i think it will , but nok should have many patents on the mecanical part etc | 23:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | RzR, hopefully with better SoC | 23:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | and screen | 23:52 |
| RzR | i am wondering how much could it take to rebuild a n950 ... in a small batch | 23:53 |
| RzR | gtk04 is pretty expensive | 23:53 |
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| SpeedEvil | RzR: murderously | 23:55 |
| RiD | Sysaxed only one scratch? | 23:55 |
| Sysaxed | RiD, yep | 23:55 |
| SpeedEvil | RzR: assuming you can get the parts, perhaps $10000 for a batch of 10 | 23:55 |
| RiD | damn | 23:55 |
| RiD | my n900 has worn out keys | 23:55 |
| RiD | probably because my nails aren't exactly the shortest but still :( | 23:56 |
| SpeedEvil | it may be slightly less if you get lucky and have few board spins | 23:56 |
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| RiD | it would be awesome if nokia sold me a n950 | 23:57 |
| Sysaxed | RiD, it seemed to me that this guy was a girl on the inside | 23:57 |
| Sysaxed | cuz it was in a super condition | 23:57 |
| RiD | lol. I wish mine was in a super condition | 23:57 |
| RiD | but noooo, they can't repair usb because usb broken. | 23:57 |
| RiD | :D | 23:57 |
| Sysaxed | oh, there is a small dent on the side | 23:57 |
| RiD | mine has no housing dents at all :D | 23:57 |
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| Sysaxed | a small one | 23:58 |
| RiD | it has, however, worn out keyboard, 1 deep scratch... thanks to my brother who was playing with a flying USB cable... | 23:58 |
| Sysaxed | but the screen is awesome | 23:58 |
| RiD | not scratch, more like "hole" lol | 23:58 |
| RiD | let's say its 0,5mm^3 | 23:58 |
| RiD | it's totally awesome to jump on my bed with that cable then let it fall right on the n900 | 23:59 |
| RiD | at an enormous speed... | 23:59 |
| RiD | 1 week after i got the phone. | 23:59 |
| Sysaxed | oh, know what... | 23:59 |
| RzR | <SpeedEvil> RzR: assuming you can get the parts, perhaps $10000 for a batch of 10 | 23:59 |
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