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| entitled | pfff | 01:06 |
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| entitled | fennec won't start | 01:06 |
| entitled | with pk51r1 + thumb | 01:06 |
| entitled | i've reflashed all twice and the problem is still there | 01:07 |
| entitled | read on an topic it could be libqtm-12 issue | 01:07 |
| entitled | how can I confirm this? | 01:08 |
| entitled | before I follow the numerous suggested solutions there and may have to resolve to another reflash after those :D | 01:08 |
| entitled | I remember someone suggesting some logging tool (for another issue) | 01:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | logging tool? I guess the best logging tool would be to start fennec from shell | 02:17 |
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| entitled | ah | 02:27 |
| entitled | I expected it wouldn't show anything there | 02:27 |
| entitled | but seems like fennec starts just fine from the shell | 02:28 |
| entitled | thanks doc :) | 02:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 03:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway a binary that simply "doesn't start" is probably rather rare, either you get an error msg from shell about some problems with permissions or whatnot, or a msg from loader which can't figure how to link the libs, or a msg about some segfault or whatever other reason for premature abort of program execution | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or binary itself will print some diagnostic output before it terminates "normally" yet in an unexpected way | 03:09 |
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| qwazix | Just read yesterday's backlog. I noticed you were talking about the led and shutdown. Nokia added a feature to the N9 in PR1.3 (or was it 1.2) that the led stays on until last second. Maybe a close inspection of the N9 kernel (or diff with PR1.1) could provide a solution that can be applied to the N900. | 03:18 |
| entitled | doc: well after starting it from the shell, it now works from the shortcut also... | 03:22 |
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| teotwaki | am I the only one who was unable to parse the emails regarding Texrat's stepping down (maemo-community) | 03:23 |
| teotwaki | "Thanks Texrat, for withdrawing your candidacy just few hours, after 86 people voted for you, and voting got closed. It helped estabilishing foundation a *much*, really..." | 03:23 |
| beford | he did it on the forums | 03:24 |
| beford | there was some fight with freemangordon and some others about something he posted | 03:24 |
| teotwaki | nha | 03:25 |
| teotwaki | I do understand what happened | 03:25 |
| beford | ahh | 03:25 |
| qwazix | He didn't really step down. It was just an angry outburst | 03:25 |
| qwazix | He apologized already | 03:25 |
| beford | well I can't understand Estel's crap either | 03:25 |
| qwazix | And stated he won't resign | 03:25 |
| teotwaki | it's just the engrish used in the emails that is illegible | 03:25 |
| qwazix | G'night | 03:27 |
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| Hurrian | so, the email that was sent out was a false alarm? | 03:33 |
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| beford | Estel trolling | 03:41 |
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| Hurrian | welp. | 03:54 |
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| Luke-Jr | BAH | 04:23 |
| Luke-Jr | 2 new USB chargers and N900 doesn't recognize either⁇? | 04:23 |
| GGon | broken port | 04:25 |
| GGon | heh | 04:25 |
| beford | a new n900 should fix that | 04:28 |
| Luke-Jr | GGon: no, it still works in car & PC | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WUT? | 04:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | texrat stepped down? | 04:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: genuine Nokia chargers? | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: if not, get the damn D+- short fixed on those chargers | 04:32 |
| Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: no, one is a 4-port dedicated USB charger, and the other is a 7-port self-powered USB hub | 04:32 |
| Luke-Jr | bah! | 04:34 |
| Luke-Jr | the USB hub isn't working at all it seems | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, the 4port dedicated charger should get D+- short. For the hub though that's not the preferred method ;-D | 04:34 |
| Luke-Jr | and more annoyingly, it's really 2x 4-port USB hubs internally | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems there's a spec saying there must be 4-port hubs only. I dunno of any other hub chips | 04:35 |
| Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer: SMSC USB2507/USB2517, TI TUSB2077A, and REA uPD720113 | 04:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so one of the 4 primary ports is linked to upstream of next hub chip == 7 downstream ports available | 04:35 |
| Luke-Jr | and NEC Corp 0409:0050, which this hub was SUPPOSED to be | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, hubs don't work too great for charging | 04:37 |
| Luke-Jr | well, I got the charger for that :/ | 04:37 |
| Hurrian | DocScrutinizer05, some powered hubs feed back power to the host. | 04:38 |
| Hurrian | it'd be interesting to test with those - it'll certainly alleviate the problems with using hostmode on the N900 | 04:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Hurrian: that's just the dirty dozen that can't even afford proper decoupling by a diode at least | 04:39 |
| Luke-Jr | ok, USB hub seems to be charging now that it's in a port it likes | 04:40 |
| Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: this D+- nonsense easy to fix, or should I just return it? | 04:40 |
| Hurrian | DocScrutinizer05, it was an annoyance on my desktop, where it kept the LPC on even after shutdown | 04:40 |
| Hurrian | rewiring the "on" LED made for a nice solution | 04:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | open up charger, solder a short to green and yellow wire | 04:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | resp to the middle two NC contacts of the USB-F of each port | 04:42 |
| Luke-Jr | oh, if relevant; seems to be powering RPi | 04:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, irrelevant | 04:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least you know it works ;-) | 04:42 |
| Luke-Jr | I don't know that yet | 04:43 |
| Luke-Jr | it's supposed to be 1A per port, no idea how to test that | 04:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd be more concerned it would deliver 4A to one port, without any hesitation | 04:44 |
| Luke-Jr | would that be bad? | 04:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might suffice to unsolder the receptacle or plug | 04:44 |
| Luke-Jr | O.o | 04:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 5V * 4A = 20W :-o | 04:45 |
| Luke-Jr | hmm, I'm guessing it doesn't provide 1A since the RPi is doing zero network activity | 04:46 |
| Luke-Jr | well, it says 2A max | 04:46 |
| Luke-Jr | so I'm guessing I can't use more than 2 ports at 1A | 04:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plug in a plug with a short over VBUS, and watch the whole thing melt down | 04:46 |
| Luke-Jr | no way to open this thing afaict | 04:47 |
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| Luke-Jr | any way to see charge current on N900? | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so one of the 4 primary ports is linked to upstream of next hub chip == 7 downstream ports availablebq27k-detail | 04:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oops | 04:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bq27k-detail | 04:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes *strange* things happen on this laptop | 04:53 |
| jon_y | speaking of USB hubs, why aren't USB3 hubs easy to find yet? :( | 04:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe because usb3 is rather exotic? | 04:54 |
| jon_y | I went to a store yesterday and found no USB 3 hubs | 04:54 |
| Luke-Jr | you buy things at stores? | 04:54 |
| jon_y | they had those exotic 7 port hubs though | 04:54 |
| jon_y | Luke-Jr: goverment tax on anything imported | 04:55 |
| Luke-Jr | real 7 port hubs are hard to find it seems | 04:55 |
| jon_y | yes, they open your ebay packages | 04:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (4 -1) + 4 | 04:55 |
| Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: know where to find devices based on SMSC USB2507/USB2517, TI TUSB2077A, and REA uPD720113 ? | 04:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 04:56 |
| Luke-Jr | cat: can't open '/sys/devices/platform/s3c24xx_pwm.0/hdq.0/hdq/dump': No such file or directory | 04:56 |
| jon_y | customs and shipping cost makes it expensive when you can just walk down to a store and get it right now with no wait | 04:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | google and fleabay are my only friends | 04:56 |
| jon_y | I know some of my friends travel about 500KM just to get some hardware :) | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Luke-Jr: seems you picked an ancient version of my famous bq27k-detail script? | 04:57 |
| Luke-Jr | first google result ;P | 04:57 |
| Luke-Jr | http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/bq27k-detail | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | google for bq27k-detail2 | 04:57 |
| jon_y | does USB 3 allow for more power draw? | 04:58 |
| GGon | lol | 04:58 |
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| Luke-Jr | yes | 04:58 |
| GGon | openmoko!! | 04:58 |
| jon_y | Luke-Jr: answering my question? | 04:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or get ShadowJK's bq27200.sh | 04:58 |
| Luke-Jr | DocScrutinizer05: where to get i2cdump? :/ | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or get ShadowJK's bq27200.sh | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though i2ctools is in extras-devel too | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe even in extras | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~bq27k | 05:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 05:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues bq27 | 05:00 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'bq27' by value (2): bq27k-detail ;; bq27200. | 05:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~bq27200 | 05:01 |
| infobot | somebody said bq27k-detail was http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/bq27k-detail2 | 05:01 |
| GGon | wish i could install maemo or meego on my lumia 900 | 05:02 |
| Luke-Jr | weird, this i2c-tools package is hanging apt | 05:02 |
| Luke-Jr | s/apt/dpkg | 05:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://enivax.net/jk/n900/ | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's just displaying something on your hildon desktop | 05:03 |
| Luke-Jr | lame | 05:03 |
| Luke-Jr | do people actually look at the display? :P | 05:03 |
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| Luke-Jr | what am I looking for in the output? :x | 05:05 |
| GGon | hm | 05:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | keep in mind that bq27200 is just gas gauge for battery, while charger chip also has to power your system, so power drawn from USB = batcharge power + system power | 05:06 |
| Luke-Jr | I don't see either of those on the output :/ | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 05:07 |
| Luke-Jr | http://codepad.org/yUeJiRdB | 05:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in bq27k-detail you wanna look for AI | 05:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in bq27200.sh it is 4th col (mA) | 05:09 |
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| Luke-Jr | 0x15 - 0x14: 1738 AI Average Current High - Low Byte 3.57 µV (1) R | 05:10 |
| Luke-Jr | *3.57 / 20 = 311 mA | 05:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess for everyday usage bq27200.sh is more convenient | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | esp in loop mode | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bq27200.sh 5 | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway a hint: if TTE=65535 it's charging | 05:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if TTF=65535 it's discharging | 05:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AI value will change sign too, but nobody can remember what means negative and what positive | 05:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems your system is discharging battery with 311mA, not entirely insane value | 05:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you'd attach it to a 500mA standard USB host, you get (500mA *5v /4V)-311mA as charging value for battery | 05:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | OhFsck! 統 振 股 份 有 限 公 司 WELLDONE COMPANY: "...When discharged at 240mA to2.75V after standart charge at 25°C" I always thought this bullshit "stand-art" is a typical german brainfart "typo" | 05:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now chinese do that as well :-S | 05:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/PACK950925.pdf p.7 ff PTC specs | 05:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | umm, nope | 05:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | page 52 | 05:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly p.60 | 05:44 |
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| Plourde | Any advice please. Nitdroid is installed using u boot and no wireless networks show up at all | 08:31 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: what about that thermistor? | 10:18 |
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| akls | my n900 rebooted and asked for a pin code while I was sleeping. How can I see what was the reason? | 12:51 |
| kerio | akls: /proc/bootreason is a start | 12:51 |
| akls | sw_rst | 12:53 |
| kerio | something rebooted | 12:53 |
| kerio | do you have syslog installed? | 12:53 |
| akls | I did not install it | 12:55 |
| akls | so I guess that no | 12:55 |
| kerio | anything weird going on? | 12:55 |
| akls | no, everything is fine. But last night I've opened my easy debian chroot and started upgrading it | 12:56 |
| akls | but the upgrade has finished | 12:56 |
| akls | successfully, I guess | 12:56 |
| akls | because everything is fine with apt-get | 12:56 |
| kerio | ever had any problems with the phone? | 12:56 |
| akls | nope, I have it just for 4 days :) | 12:56 |
| kerio | just stock fremantle then? | 12:57 |
| kerio | was the battery charged? | 12:57 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: *poke* | 12:57 |
| akls | no, community ssu testing | 12:57 |
| akls | it was connected to my pc via usb charger | 12:58 |
| akls | and the battery is ok | 12:58 |
| akls | kerio, should I install syslog and then wait for the next time it happens? | 12:59 |
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| kerio | i suppose | 13:13 |
| akls | so, about "apt-get upgrade" in easy debian... It makes the device hang and reboot forcing you to reinstall easy debian | 13:14 |
| akls | so I've made a little script that upgrades the packages one by one | 13:14 |
| akls | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/update1by1 | 13:14 |
| kerio | oooh, i think i know what went wrong then | 13:14 |
| akls | it requires apt-show-versions to be installed | 13:14 |
| kerio | ShadowJK can probably back me up on this | 13:14 |
| kerio | akls: IO intensive things make everything slow to a crawl | 13:15 |
| kerio | and there's a watchdog that reboots the system if it isn't tickled every $something seconds | 13:15 |
| akls | kerio, I was upgrading with my script. And upgrade has finished successfully | 13:15 |
| akls | so it's not the reason | 13:15 |
| kerio | then idk | 13:15 |
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| kerio | anyway, i've got http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1873316 this at the end of /etc/init.d/rcS | 13:17 |
| akls | what's that? | 13:17 |
| akls | I mean what is it going to do? | 13:18 |
| kerio | speed up I/O quite dramatically | 13:18 |
| kerio | at the cost of a bit more ram used for I/O | 13:18 |
| kerio | ShadowJK: is that right? | 13:18 |
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| kerio | oh my fucking god what the hell is wrong with the easydebian developer | 13:28 |
| Sicelo | qole? | 13:29 |
| kerio | putting files in /root/ and /home/user, cycling a swap partition without even checking that it's there, overwriting /sys/block/mmcblk*/queue/nr_requests | 13:30 |
| kerio | it's almost worse than easy-chroot's "user ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL" | 13:32 |
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| djszapi | http://imagebin.org/232698 -> Hey, how can I insert a sim card safely into my new n900? | 13:39 |
| djszapi | I recall that previously it was simple to remove the relevant cover, but it does not seem so now. | 13:39 |
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| kerio | i don't get the meaning of that picture | 13:40 |
| kerio | the sim is below the battery | 13:40 |
| djszapi | ah yes, I am confusing this with the N950. | 13:40 |
| djszapi | thank you! | 13:41 |
| kerio | those are all buttons! D: | 13:41 |
| djszapi | yep | 13:41 |
| djszapi | long time I have used N900 :D | 13:41 |
| djszapi | but I have no other fallback phone here now ^^ | 13:42 |
| Psotnick | Anyone knows is there a script that is triggered by opening/closing the back cover? | 13:43 |
| djszapi | so how can I get the back off | 13:43 |
| kerio | djszapi: idk, a thumbnail | 13:43 |
| Psotnick | djszapi: on the right side of the phone (in landscape) you've got a place to stick your nail in. Place it there and pull it | 13:44 |
| MrPingu | kerio: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1873364 | 13:44 |
| kerio | MrPingu: oh, neat | 13:45 |
| kerio | what's "service" there? | 13:45 |
| kerio | also, why the stop directive? | 13:45 |
| kerio | and why don't you run it earlier? | 13:46 |
| MrPingu | http://wiki.maemo.org/Startup_script | 13:46 |
| MrPingu | took just the example script :P | 13:46 |
| djszapi | Psotnick: ok, if that is safe ok then. | 13:46 |
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| Psotnick | djszapi: it should be safe I do it like that ;) | 13:47 |
| djszapi | I thought there would have been a button (or two) to press to get that automatically off. | 13:47 |
| MrPingu | kerio: What would you propose then? | 13:47 |
| Sicelo | djszapi: it's safe, although it 'sounds' dangerous :p | 13:47 |
| kerio | the end of rcS :) | 13:47 |
| kerio | unless those parameters get overwritten afterwards | 13:47 |
| djszapi | Sicelo: Psotnick thank you. | 13:48 |
| Psotnick | djszapi: no problem | 13:49 |
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| kerio | MrPingu: where have you taken those parameters? | 13:50 |
| kerio | page-cluster 0 seems weird | 13:50 |
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| MrPingu | FMG, on a post in the easy-debian thread | 13:50 |
| kerio | oh freemangordon <3 | 13:51 |
| MrPingu | http://www.forums.internettablettalk.com/showthread.php?p=1200669#post1200669 | 13:51 |
| MrPingu | Increased nr_requests acording to ShadowJK | 13:52 |
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| djszapi | is the n900 sim lock free? | 13:56 |
| djszapi | my vodafone sim card does not get recognized after the boot, apparently. | 13:57 |
| djszapi | I got this instance at the meego summit after the meegathon competition. | 13:59 |
| djszapi | so probably not from the operators, but directly from Nokia. | 13:59 |
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| djszapi | hm, it was ok for the second boot. | 14:01 |
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| Psotnick | How can I obtain omap_hsmmc.c from N900 kerel power? | 14:18 |
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| ShadowJK | I think N900 has the capability to do simlock | 14:35 |
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| ShadowJK | Now whether you bought N900 from an operator or from a normal shop without operator contracts, and if operator locked it or not, is the question :P | 14:36 |
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| akls | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-10-21-153943_160x29_scrot.png hahahahha | 15:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ((what about that thermistor?)) nice table with values, from -40 to +120 | 15:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<akls> so I've made a little script that upgrades the packages one by one <akls> kerio, I was upgrading with my script. And upgrade has finished successfully)) how do you even know? does your script some logging, or rise a flag file when done? | 15:48 |
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| akls | DocScrutinizer05, what do you mean? O_o | 15:51 |
| akls | DocScrutinizer05, it just gets the list of upgradable packages and then upgrades them one by one | 15:51 |
| akls | and sleeps for 20 seconds between each other | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | akls: when your N900 reboots at arbitrary time, how would you tell your script had finished at that time? | 15:51 |
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| akls | DocScrutinizer05, oh, apt-get upgrade says that there are no packages to upgrade | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 15:52 |
| akls | and that dpkg was not interrupted | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my personal suspicion is that your PC stopped charging | 15:53 |
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| akls | maybe I'm a psycho, but I'm trying to load eclipse in easy debian | 15:53 |
| akls | holy shit | 15:54 |
| akls | it works | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, why not | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you got a pretty standard PC with a debian and a ~250MHz "real" CPU, with 200MB RAM and 700MB swap | 15:55 |
| akls | it crashed O_o | 15:56 |
| kerio | yep, sounds like eclipse | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, that's not exactly a surprise for any eclipse, no? ;-) | 15:56 |
| akls | no | 15:57 |
| akls | It crashed only once in my 5 years experience | 15:57 |
| akls | maybe twice | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wow | 15:57 |
| akls | maybe I'm just too lucky | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you used eclipse onle once, maybe twice ? ;-P | 15:59 |
| akls | no, I'm using it a lot | 15:59 |
| Psotnick | Anyone knows how can I make my N900 think that the back cover is always on? My sensor's probably broken and I can't use microsd cards. | 15:59 |
| akls | mostly for java development | 15:59 |
| akls | sometimes c++ or python | 15:59 |
| akls | Psotnick, what do you mean by "back cover is always on" ? | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Psotnick: not your sensor is broken, your cover is. missing magnet | 16:00 |
| akls | I thought there's no sensor for back cover? | 16:00 |
| akls | only for the camera thing | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there is a hall switch | 16:00 |
| Psotnick | DocScrutinizer05: the magnet is on | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | detecting stand magnet | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try with a better magnet, for a start | 16:01 |
| akls | it crashed again.. hmm.. | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Psotnick: it's actually hard to fake that sensor/hallswitch | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik it's embedded deeply in mmc driver | 16:02 |
| Psotnick | DocScrutinizer05: tried with a magnet from a case, they're pretty strong | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no luck? | 16:02 |
| kerio | are you sure you placed it correctly? | 16:02 |
| Psotnick | DocScrutinizer05: no | 16:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you know where's that sensor? | 16:02 |
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| Psotnick | kerio: I tried with a lot of combinations | 16:03 |
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| Psotnick | DocScrutinizer05: under the place where the magnet is, between battery and slot | 16:03 |
| kerio | i thought it was between usd and camera | 16:04 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: isn't it a hardware thing to completely disable the slot when the sensor doesn't detect the backcover? | 16:05 |
| Psotnick | kerio: probably not, there's a driver for that omap_hsmmc | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 16:06 |
| Psotnick | Nokia-N900:~# cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 16:07 |
| Psotnick | open | 16:07 |
| kerio | stupid thing: try echoing "closed" to it :3 | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | watch -n 1 /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then try with a proper magnet | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | after all it *might* really be defect | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the magnet in cover is the little one holding the stand | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in the center under the silver frame around cam slider | 16:09 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: weren't you saying something about reversing that GPIO pin and turning it on? | 16:09 |
| Psotnick | watch says permission denied | 16:09 |
| kerio | Psotnick: watch -n 1 cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc0/cover_switch | 16:09 |
| akls | eclipse is extremely slow :D no surprise | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: thanks | 16:10 |
| Psotnick | kerio: oh, thanks. I missed that | 16:10 |
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| Psotnick | it says open all the time | 16:10 |
| kerio | Psotnick: :( | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I once suggested something along that line, yes | 16:11 |
| akls | oh wait.. not that slow | 16:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Psotnick: I guess mmc_host is the driver, and cover_switch is where it deals with this hall-sensor very directly | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need to build your own mmc_host driver I guess | 16:13 |
| kerio | is that driver open? | 16:14 |
| kerio | why hasn't anybody fixed it, then? | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's kernel, so yes? | 16:14 |
| Psotnick | It's open, I've got the sources | 16:14 |
| Psotnick | But it's too hard for me to understand the code | 16:15 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: are you sure it's not also a purely hardware thing? | 16:15 |
| kerio | (note the "also") | 16:15 |
| Psotnick | I thought about replacing all 'mmc_slot(host).get_cover_state' with 1, but I don't know what 'mmc_slot(host).get_cover_state(host->dev, host->slot_id)' stands for | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: yep, I'm quite sure | 16:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: N5820 "Main Camera Cover Switch" goes to SoC pin C26 "CAM_D11" GPIO. No relation whatsoever to mmc-interface hw block | 16:21 |
| kerio | k | 16:22 |
| Psotnick | DocScrutinizer05: the sensor can be fixed only with new motherboard? | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooops sorry, I told BS | 16:25 |
| Psotnick | BS? | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | N5210 "uSD card hotswap sensor" connects to SoC GPIO160 (pin T21) "McBSP1_CLKS". So the basic rationale stays the same: not related to uSD hw interface | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Psotnick: (new MoBo) that depends what's defect | 16:29 |
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| Psotnick | Ok, I see, thank you for your time | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if sensor N5210 or ESD-EMI-filter Z5210 are defect, or maybe R5210 or C5212, then you could fix the component | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I *always* suggest reflashing a clean pure maemo fremantle pr1.3 and then retest | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Psotnick: ^^^ | 16:35 |
| Psotnick | DocScrutinizer05: I tried that already | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 16:35 |
| kerio | Psotnick: try the gpio thing! | 16:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the brute force "fix" (if SoC still ok): remove R5210, short "lower end" of R5210 to GND | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or what kerio said | 16:37 |
| jon_y | hey, anybody know how to make fmms stop auto rotating? | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though I'd ask somebody else to first test it on their device if it actually works | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 16:38 |
| jon_y | I tried blacklisting but it's python | 16:38 |
| Psotnick | I'm too dumb to understand you guys | 16:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Psotnick: there's a generic way to handle GPIO in linux, via sysfs | 16:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the sensor is connected to GPIO160 | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you could define GPIO160 as output, and then set it to 1/on/high, which would - in theory - signal any process watching this GPIO (mmc_host) that the cover is closed | 16:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (([2012-10-21 15:16:10] <Psotnick> I thought about replacing all 'mmc_slot(host).get_cover_state' with 1, but I don't know what 'mmc_slot(host).get_cover_state(host->dev, host->slot_id)' stands for)) sounds like a pretty good plan as well | 16:42 |
| Psotnick | Okay, I think I understand | 16:43 |
| Psotnick | I'm afraid that I can't even compile it | 16:44 |
| Psotnick | Also if that fails, would simple kernel reflash fix that? | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: sure | 16:47 |
| kerio | Psotnick: isn't it a module? | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: prolly monolithic | 16:47 |
| Psotnick | kerio: yes, It is | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, it's a *.ko?? | 16:48 |
| kerio | omap_hsmmc, mmc_block, mmc_core | 16:48 |
| kerio | one of those | 16:48 |
| Psotnick | omap_hsmmc.ko is responsible for back cover open/closed status | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | modinfo: could not find module map_hsmmc | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | duh, my bad | 16:50 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: put python in blacklist? | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: how about starting fmms not via "python fmms.py" but simply via "fmms.py" like any other proper script with proper shebang line? | 16:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess CSSU rotation blacklist goes for $0 | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or *maybe* it even goes for window title - sorry I have NFC | 16:54 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: I don't know, it was started from the app menu | 16:54 |
| jon_y | I guess I can start it manually | 16:54 |
| jon_y | which user does it run as, I hope I don't need root | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess pasting the *full* ps line here (from htop if you have no proper ps) will tell us a lot | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also looking into the .desktop will enlighten us a bit | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no fmms here, so I can't help on that | 16:55 |
| jon_y | oh ok, just a normal user | 16:55 |
| jon_y | 8825 user 2215 python /opt/fmms/fmmsd.py | 16:56 |
| jon_y | and another .... user .... python /opt/fmms/fmms_gui.py | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | head -n 2 /opt/fmms/fmmsd.py | 16:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | head -n 2 /opt/fmms/fmms_gui.py | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is there a proper python shebang? | 16:58 |
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| jon_y | #!/usr/bin/env python2.5 | 16:58 |
| jon_y | I guess it sort of has | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | frals: why is fmms started as "python $fmms" ? | 16:58 |
| jon_y | sorry, ps says python2.5 too | 16:58 |
| jon_y | where are the .desktop files to edit? | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/share/apps/hildon/ | 16:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or sth | 16:59 |
| jon_y | hmm, Exec=/opt/fmms/fmms_gui.py | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm indeed | 17:01 |
| jon_y | btw, x terminal -> new opens a new console | 17:03 |
| jon_y | how do I get back the old one? | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hm? | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | switch to the other window? | 17:03 |
| jon_y | ugh, I feel stupid :( | 17:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: please quit fmms | 17:04 |
| jon_y | I think /usr/bin/env is starting the python | 17:05 |
| jon_y | ok | 17:05 |
| akls | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: then start it from console, like `/opt/fmms/fmms_gui.py` | 17:05 |
| akls | finally my favorite music player moc on my phone!!! | 17:05 |
| jon_y | yeah, I did that, python2.5 is still there | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dang! | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | friggin python | 17:05 |
| akls | running in easy debian, but still | 17:05 |
| akls | I wonder if it drains more or less battery than native n900 music player... | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: we'll fix that in CSSU eventually | 17:06 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: thanks | 17:06 |
| jon_y | you guys are awesome | 17:06 |
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| akls | ^ agreed | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I already thought blacklist needs regex | 17:06 |
| jon_y | does hildon-desktop need restarting if I change the blacklist? | 17:07 |
| jon_y | regex can get kind of funky if everything is in one line | 17:07 |
| jon_y | make it m-m-m-multiline? :) | 17:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sure it's still multiline :-P | 17:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | won't hurt to get simple shell patterns in the names | 17:10 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: it is? the example had everything in one line | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm? | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I have nfc, never looked into a real blacklist | 17:11 |
| Psotnick | How can I get sources for kernel power? | 17:11 |
| jon_y | nah, I prefer regex, glob can get crazynfc? | 17:11 |
| jon_y | oops | 17:11 |
| jon_y | nfc? | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 17:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's a single friggin line in transitions.ini | 17:12 |
| * jon_y no like glob | 17:12 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~nfc | 17:12 |
| infobot | [nfc] No Fucking Clue, or near field communications | 17:12 |
| jon_y | oh ok | 17:12 |
| jon_y | new blacklist.ini? one entry per line? | 17:13 |
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| jon_y | or blacklist.conf since it has little to no ini structure to it | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: that's been my requirement specs for blacklist, somebody ignored it :-S | 17:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I specified a dir hildon-blacklist.d/ | 17:14 |
| jon_y | yes, that would be easier for apps to tell hildon they can't rotate right | 17:14 |
| jon_y | or even whitelist.d | 17:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since we all know the PITA that comes from managing one-line edits in post-install post-remove scripts | 17:14 |
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| jon_y | auto rotate can now be ternary, yes, no, auto | 17:15 |
| jon_y | yes means rotate all except blacklisted | 17:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess I can prod somebody to add that silly little patch to cssu H-D | 17:15 |
| jon_y | no means no rotate at all | 17:15 |
| jon_y | auto means rotate only whitelist | 17:15 |
| jon_y | well, ternary looks good on paper | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe I have to implement those patches myself :-S | 17:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 1) allow whitespace in blacklist items, for exact matching against full cmdline: blacklist= "appname1 parmeter1 parameter2" | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2) allow shell patterns: blacklist= "appname1 *" | 17:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 3) allow multiple lines: blacklist= "appname1" \n blacklist= "appname2" | 17:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4) allow new parameter "blacklistinclude = /path/to/file/with/shellpatterns*", to 'source' all files that result from pathname expansion of the shell patterns in path parameter | 17:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in those files, same blacklist related syntax applies as in original transitions.ini | 17:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think it makes sense to forbid blacklistinclude in included files, when stuff gets coded properly | 17:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so 4a) it's user's responsibility to not define circular blacklistinclude. Nevertheless we may define a max nesting depth of maybe 10, after which H-D aborts evaluation of transitions.ini and throws an error to logging but doesn't exit | 17:32 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: or just /etc/hildondesktop.conf and /etc/hildondesktop.conf.d/* | 17:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nope, I prefer to define arbitrary include patterns, so we *could* for example run over all blacklistinclude=/usr/share/apps/hildon/*.desktop | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since this windows-configfile syntax allows for arbitrary crap parameters in a file that simply get ignored when unknown, it would be pretty perfect to scan all .desktop for a parameter "blacklist=$me" | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I hope you appreciate that idea | 17:38 |
| kerio | sounds like a mess | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | heh? | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why? where? which mess? | 17:38 |
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| kerio | there's no "blacklist" parameter in .desktop files | 17:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so what? | 17:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't mean we can't add one | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if we feel like | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | see freedesktop.org specs of .desktop format | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it explicitly allows arbitrary parameters that simply get ignored by all the processes that don't know them | 17:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in fact H-D acts exactly according to that | 17:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I accidentally tested it just so often, by adding something that had a typo | 17:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, I forgot to explicitly mention it | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4b) of course multiple lines "blacklistinclude=" are allowed | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4c) each include is executed ad hoc, and later definitions override earlier ones, if conflicting | 17:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (technically all blacklist= parameters are kept in an internal list that gets scanned from end to start for first entry defining about rotation of the app under evaluation) | 17:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((footnote: while this last definition is meaningless for current blacklist, it starts to become relevant when we also get whitelist entries that are added to same list)) | 17:52 |
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| Psotnick | What should I write to /etc/apt/sources.list to use extras/devel? | 17:53 |
| Psotnick | Oh, it worked | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4c1) TBD when this list gets refreshed, possible events to trigger refresh are: start of H-D (obviously), opening of taskswitcher screen, inotify evens (TBD), SIGHUP/SIGUSR1 | 17:54 |
| akls | moc eats 100% cpu on easy debian. Is there anything I can do with it? | 17:54 |
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| Sicelo | Psotnick: iirc HAM overwrites that each time. i think /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list is more permant | 17:56 |
| Sicelo | *permanent | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, exactly | 17:56 |
| Psotnick | Sicelo: I know, just noticed that ;) | 17:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | even better: add your own files to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 17:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, 'better' is relative here | 17:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | errrr /usr/lib/testserver/modules/handlers/sos_switch.so.0 o.O .oO(???) | 18:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is this testserver? | 18:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | "Report bugs to Paul Mundt <paul.mundt@nokia.com>" | 18:10 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 is tempted to do a `start test` or `start local` | 18:18 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | less /etc/event.d/testserver | 18:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | oh LOL: preinit: >> STATE=`getbootstate` echo_g "Entering state '$STATE'." case $STATE in ... LOCAL|TEST) def_runlevel=3 << | 18:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so what makes getbootstate respond "TEST" ? | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | test-battery? | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | BWAHAHA the notorious >> echo_g "Houston, we have a problem, powering off..." << X-P | 18:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | KTNXBYE! | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# getbootstate --help | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | getbootstate: Unexpected reset occured. Using previous bootstate 'USER' | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | USER | 18:28 |
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| cityLights | are there any cycling ppl here? | 18:34 |
| cityLights | #cycling seems empty | 18:34 |
| cityLights | I want to ask a question about cycling in the alps | 18:34 |
| cityLights | guessing some ppl here are near the alps | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, wrong channel | 18:34 |
| cityLights | which then? | 18:35 |
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| entitled | maybe try another network completely | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | reading preinit is a real thrill, each single time | 18:36 |
| akls | hm. I'm trying to use my favorite cli music player moc on n900. It works fine with easy debian, but for some reason eats 100% cpu. I've tried opening the same song with mpg123 and when running from user it works fine, but from root it eats 100% cpu too. | 18:38 |
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| akls | something is wrong :\ | 18:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | epic: preinit seems to offer booting from SDx "HDD" attached to USB host mode | 18:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | in addition to NAND flash, and MMC | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | less "+/show_roots()" /sbin/preinit | 18:41 |
| Sicelo | gawd | 18:44 |
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| akls | anybody? | 19:27 |
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| Jade | akls, i used to use moc | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | akls: well, mediaplayers shouldn't run with root permissions | 19:36 |
| Jade | i think it might not be using hardware acceleration for playing mp3's, although i doubt even then it would eat 100% cpu | 19:36 |
| Jade | i'm not sure if that even makes sense | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's no reason why it eats 100% CPU, but anyway | 19:36 |
| Jade | but it works fine for me | 19:36 |
| Jade | so i dont know | 19:36 |
| Jade | i ran mine in maemo and not debian | 19:36 |
| Jade | i had compiled it | 19:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | akls: anyway if your mediaplayer is run under root account, I guess it will need run-standalone.sh at very least, since it might need access to USER's session bus etc | 19:38 |
| akls | Jade had any cpu problems? | 19:38 |
| Jade | nope | 19:38 |
| Jade | showed maybe 10-15% at most | 19:39 |
| akls | wtf | 19:39 |
| akls | why | 19:39 |
| akls | Jade was it estel or what? | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | akls: anyway if your mediaplayer is run under root account, I guess it will need run-standalone.sh at very least, since it might need access to USER's session bus etc | 19:39 |
| Jade | what's that | 19:39 |
| akls | Jade you were running it under easy debian? | 19:39 |
| Jade | oh | 19:39 |
| Jade | no | 19:39 |
| akls | OH | 19:39 |
| Jade | i compiled it on maemo | 19:39 |
| akls | so installed from source, right? | 19:39 |
| akls | OK | 19:39 |
| akls | got it | 19:39 |
| akls | Jade thank you very much, my savior! | 19:39 |
| Jade | mocp doesnt have that many dependencies, it compiles pretty fast | 19:39 |
| akls | now I have to go :) | 19:40 |
| Jade | so you should be good if you really want to compile it | 19:40 |
| Jade | ok | 19:40 |
| akls | yea-yea | 19:40 |
| akls | thank you! | 19:40 |
| Jade | np | 19:40 |
| akls | I was not even thinking about running it without easy debian :D | 19:40 |
| akls | thanks | 19:40 |
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| Psotnick | DocScrutinizer05: setting all the "mmc_slot(host).get_cover_state" caused a reboot loop | 22:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe changing anything on that module caused the reboot loop | 22:58 |
| kerio | Psotnick: have you tried just loading it from a booted system? | 22:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if vermagic doen't match, kernel won't load the module, and thus can't mount eMMC and /home and /opt | 22:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ergo: bootloop | 22:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well known effect when kernel modules don't match the kernel | 23:00 |
| Psotnick | Ok, I'll try just to load it | 23:00 |
| kerio | can someone with KP installed pastebin the content of his /etc/default/mount-opts? | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw I'd just patch that function to always return state "closed" rather than edit all the ölocations where it gets called | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Psotnick: and I'm afraid there might as well be some IRQ handler that deals with state changes of GPIO160 on a hardware level | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | since it doesn't make sense when the kernel module would _poll_ mmc_slot(host).get_cover_state 5 times a second, to catch wehn somebody dares to open battery cover | 23:04 |
| Psotnick | I modprobed that module and it loaded, but still can't see /dev/mmcblk1 | 23:05 |
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| Psotnick | I think I'll just give up | 23:06 |
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| kerio | aww :( | 23:20 |
| kerio | try the gpio thing now! | 23:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hacking kernel modules isn't exactly trivial, mainly due to the poor debugging opportunities | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I doubt my idea about GPIO reprogramming will fly | 23:31 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: sure, with *that* attitude... | 23:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find each reference to GPIO160 in that kernel module, weed out the result of an changing input at lowest possible level | 23:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as mentioned there might as well be a IRQ handler waiting for an IRQ triggered from that GPIO | 23:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq! my t900 is definitely messed up | 23:41 |
| vi__ | which gpio? | 23:42 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: D: | 23:45 |
| kerio | the billion-year-uptime one? | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rootfs filled up I guess | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: 160 | 23:45 |
| kerio | this shit right here is the reason you don't install sysklogd! | 23:45 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: are you going to reflash it? | 23:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: I'm going to reboot it :-O | 23:47 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: nooooooooooooooooo | 23:47 |
| kerio | don't do it | 23:47 |
| kerio | think of the children! | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# uptime | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 23:00:07 up 204 days, 23:55, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WAAAAAAAH! | 23:47 |
| kerio | fix it! | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no more mounts | 23:48 |
| kerio | what's fucked about it? | 23:48 |
| kerio | what does dmesg say? | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dmesg is ok | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | syslog isn't | 23:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | mount isn't | 23:48 |
| kerio | stop it then | 23:48 |
| kerio | and clean the rootfs | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cat /etc7mtab isn't | 23:48 |
| kerio | maybe mount can't write to /etc/mtab | 23:48 |
| kerio | and mtab can be restored from /proc/mounts | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 23:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# cat /proc/mounts >/etc/mtab | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -sh: cannot create /etc/mtab: No space left on device | 23:49 |
| kerio | indeed | 23:49 |
| kerio | just rm /var/log/syslog | 23:49 |
| kerio | you don't need it :P | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29316716 Oct 14 14:02 syslog | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# rm /var/log/syslog | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | already did | 23:49 |
| kerio | sync | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh | 23:50 |
| kerio | ubifs is weird like that | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# sync | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# cat /proc/mounts >/etc/mtab | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | -sh: cannot create /etc/mtab: No space left on device | 23:50 |
| kerio | what does df say? | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# df -h | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SIC! | 23:50 |
| kerio | nice | 23:51 |
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| kerio | df / | 23:51 |
| kerio | there must be a way to force df to work | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | df: /: can't find mount point | 23:51 |
| kerio | oh lawds | 23:51 |
| kerio | can you make a symlink? | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 23:51 |
| kerio | ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab | 23:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I doubt | 23:51 |
| kerio | have you stopped sysklogd and klogd, btw? | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ln: /etc/mtab: File exists | 23:52 |
| kerio | ok then, delete it | 23:52 |
| kerio | if syslog is still open then maybe it's keeping /var/log/syslog alive | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# rm /etc/mtab | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | t900:~# ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab | 23:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ln: /etc/mtab: No space left on device | 23:52 |
| kerio | dammit! | 23:52 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what have you done? D: | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | killed my best uptime | 23:53 |
| kerio | srsly tho | 23:53 |
| kerio | it's fixable | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | syslog ended Sep 29 | 23:53 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: mount a new /etc via nfs | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 23:54 |
| kerio | IT CAN'T GO WRONG | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'll just reboot | 23:54 |
| kerio | well that's just weak :S | 23:54 |
| kerio | i wonder if it'll boot | 23:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we'll see | 23:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | booting to ACT_DEAD? Friggin KP46 | 23:58 |
| kerio | hahaha | 23:59 |
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