IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2012-09-21

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lufIs somewhere app for N900 which show me what is broadcasted on cell broadcast channels?00:27
lufI'm curious what our operators (CZE) are sending ... so I can choose the right channel for Operator Name Widget.00:28
nox-http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/20/swiss-federal-railways-accuses-apple-of-copying-its-railway-clock-design-for-ipad-clock-app/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%2900:33
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DocScrutinizer05luf: maemo.clud-7.de00:58
DocScrutinizer05cloud even00:58
DocScrutinizer05lemme pick that lil fancy for you00:58
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lufDocS: I don't understand ...01:00
DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/bin/smscb.py (needs a tiny patch to neuter the channel filter)01:00
lufHmmm I see.01:01
DocScrutinizer05luf: and you want patched libsms.so from CSSU-T01:01
DocScrutinizer05(ships with new opername widget)01:01
DocScrutinizer05iirc01:01
lufI have CSSU-T 5.1 already.01:02
lufI upgraded today to be honest :D01:02
DocScrutinizer05(neuter filter) or did I already provide something to print *all* channels?01:03
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lufDocScrutinizer05: it would be better to have something what prints all channels :D01:04
DocScrutinizer05 if channel == "":01:05
DocScrutinizer05;-)01:05
DocScrutinizer05elif channel == fromchannel:01:06
DocScrutinizer05just don't give --channel=22201:06
lufDocScrutinizer05: another question to channels. Right now I see some info but it's blinks (the info is showed for one minute then it disappear for several seconds and then showed again for random time).01:06
lufWhat is channel 222?01:06
DocScrutinizer05random01:07
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DocScrutinizer05221 is gauss-wegener coords on German O201:07
lufWhy the info from Operator Name Widget isn't displayed permanently?01:08
lufAny idea?01:08
DocScrutinizer05umm, not really. well...01:08
DocScrutinizer05maybe it clears info on cell handover now, and then has to wait until new cell sends broadcast again01:09
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lufIt changes two states: "O2 - CZ" and "O2 -CZ some info"01:09
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lufOk. I'm surprised it changes cells so often. But it should be ... thanks for the info.01:09
DocScrutinizer05tail <logfiles> ;)01:10
DocScrutinizer05tail -f even01:10
lufWhat logfiles?01:10
DocScrutinizer05opername logfiles01:10
luf:) That doesn't help me a lot. Where can I find opername logfiles?01:12
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peetahluf: /home/user/opername.log01:18
DocScrutinizer05and another one with similar name and path01:19
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DocScrutinizer05and you have to enable lagging01:19
DocScrutinizer05logging01:19
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lufThank guys. Time to go to the bed. Bye.02:10
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iluminator105how do you turn on front facing camera at all times on n900?05:08
SpeedEvilumm... what?05:11
SpeedEvillittle uses the front can05:11
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iluminator105for surveillance05:12
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iluminator105?05:19
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iluminator105permission to pm DocScrutinizer0505:22
iluminator105permission to pm DocScrutinizer51 i meant05:22
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SpeedEvilthere probably isn't software to do this. of wouldn't be hard thouh,.05:24
iluminator105how do you just turn on front facing camera05:25
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SpeedEvilread the right /dev/video device05:26
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keriovi__: no it fucking doesn't07:07
kerio(re:compcache)07:07
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kerioyay, python 2.7 ^_________^08:21
Luke-JrFAIL08:22
kerio?08:22
Luke-Jr2.7 = obsolete08:23
Luke-Jr3.2 = current08:23
kerioW: Unable to locate package python308:23
kerioW: Unable to locate package python3.208:23
keriohm, i wonder if doing alias python=python2.7 is a good idea08:25
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iluminator105so how do you turn on front face camera in n90010:01
kerioturn on FOR WHAT?10:01
iluminator105permission to pm kerio10:02
keriofuck off10:02
iluminator105hey be nice10:03
befordyou have my permission10:03
iluminator105just turn on front facing camera its there might as well use it10:04
befordskype uses the front camera10:05
befordnot sure if there are more apps that use it10:05
iluminator105i could run ekiga and see if it turns the front facing camera10:05
befordi guess10:06
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luflet's find on tmo. There is thread that gstreamer can use front camera. I think also camera-ui replacement can use front camer.10:10
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lufUnfortunately I don't have the link here.10:10
iluminator105hmm...10:11
befordhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Streaming_video_from_built-in_webcam10:12
Flyserthere is a mirror ap10:17
Flyserp10:17
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fluxI've found the camera streaming tools for n900 aren't quite satisfactory10:22
fluxfor example I haven't found a way to focus the image10:22
kerioflux: what do you mean? it's gstreamer!10:22
kerioheh, "Image quality depends on hw revision"10:24
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keriono it fucking doesn't, camera-ui2 has a much better quality10:24
fluxbut I haven't tried/known about flumotion, should do that some day10:24
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Lava_Croftmo12:29
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internetishardmoooooooooo12:38
kerioµ12:41
internetishardvery funny12:41
internetishardI'm gonna cry unless I get an iphone 5! waaaaaa12:42
internetishardlmao12:42
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chem|stinternetishard: cry babe12:55
internetishardyoyoyo12:56
internetishard3am, bright eyed and bushy tailed12:56
internetishard'YOLO@night'12:57
keriodoes anyone play FTL? i need to brag about something12:57
internetishardq3 here. yo' shits obscure12:57
SpeedEvil@######---D###13:03
SpeedEvil##physics enjoys discussion of FTL13:04
SpeedEvil( not really )13:04
kerioSpeedEvil: wtf is that?13:07
keriodragon breathing in a corridor?13:07
internetishardSpeedEvil: what do you consider your speciality?13:08
SpeedEvilhardware/firmware, and disability regulations in the UK, specifically regulations, law and case law around employment and support allowance and disability living allowance.13:10
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* SpeedEvil ponders judicial review again.13:10
internetishardI take it you're disabled?13:11
SpeedEvilunfortunately.13:13
internetishard:(13:13
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Lava_CroftSpeedEvil: in case you are in a wheelchair, do a lot of people also approach you as if you are mentally disabled?13:23
Lava_Croftjust because you are in a wheelchair?13:23
Lava_CroftI have that with a friend of mine who lost his legs in an accident13:23
SpeedEvilI am not.13:24
Lava_CroftSometimes his reactions to such people are quite amusing13:24
Lava_CroftSpeedEvil: ah13:24
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Lava_CroftI wonder if its bad to feel curisoity regarding the kind of disability you have13:24
SpeedEvilI'm in the position I envy those that are in some ways. I look fit. I would have my legs cut off tomorrow if it would cure my chronic fatigue syndrome,13:25
Lava_Croftsomewhere somehow it feels wrong to be curious13:25
Lava_Croftah13:25
Lava_CroftPfeiffer?13:25
Lava_Croftor worse13:25
Lava_CroftMy wife had pfeiffer as a child, a friend of hers suffers from ME13:26
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Lava_Croftespecially the case of ME is pretty gruesome now and then, considering the fact that she looks fine physicallyt13:26
Lava_Croftmuch like you :|13:26
SpeedEvilit was likely triggered by some routine childhood virus.13:27
Lava_Crofthow is it called13:27
Lava_Croftjust chronic fatigue syndrome?13:27
SpeedEvilglandular fever13:27
Lava_Croftwhat glands?13:27
Lava_Croftwhich is better english13:28
internetishardI do biology13:28
internetishardhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20209476 don't forget this13:28
SpeedEvilME is an alternate name for CFS13:28
Lava_CroftSpeedEvil: yeah, thats why i asked13:28
Lava_Croftsometimes there is confusing about the naming13:28
Lava_CroftI thought i might be wrong/confused13:28
Lava_CroftThat's a pretty nasty disability :\13:28
SpeedEvilit varies.13:29
Lava_Crofta wall of misunderstanding13:29
SpeedEvilsome are able to work fulltime.13:29
internetishardHave you also tried acupuncture?13:29
Lava_CroftSpeedEvil: yes, it can vary greatly13:29
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Lava_CroftDoes it detiorate?13:29
Lava_Croftdeteriorate whatever damn english13:30
SpeedEvilI have severe problems getting out, due to no legally operable car, and taxis being murderously expensive.13:30
Lava_CroftNHS doesnt provide transport?13:30
SpeedEvilmy condition is at the moment stable.13:30
Lava_Croftas in, the money for it13:30
Lava_Croftgood to hear13:30
SpeedEvilit's reliant on doctor referrals.13:30
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Lava_Crofti still somehow feel like a voyeur, talking about it with you on irc13:31
Lava_Croftah13:31
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Lava_Croftso i take it your referrals arent 'good enough' for it13:31
Lava_Croftmuch the same situation as in NL13:31
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Lava_Croftand electric vehicles?13:32
Lava_Croftlike an electric powered bicycle, or threewheel bicycle?13:32
SpeedEvilI've been over the last 6 weeks preparing a 30 or so page document going into various case law, and my disability in detail. irc is easy.13:32
Lava_Croftfriend of my wife's has a three wheeled bycicle normally used by people with motoric disabilities13:33
Lava_CroftSpeedEvil: hah:D13:33
Lava_Croftonly her's is electrically powered13:33
Lava_Croftshe can, if she wants, also move herself, but the electric engine always backs her up13:33
SpeedEvilthey are so ridiculously slow that they are unsuitable for getting to tow.13:33
Lava_Croftit works quite well13:33
SpeedEviltown13:33
Lava_Croftwhat? her's is fine13:33
Lava_Croftshe can easily go 25km/h13:33
SpeedEvilthey cannot legally go over 15km/h iirc13:34
Lava_Croftin NL they can13:34
Lava_Croftbut 15km/h is pretty meh indeed13:34
SpeedEvilthis is very unsuitable for country lanes.13:34
Lava_Croftyou really need three wheels then13:34
Lava_Croftor else you just fall13:34
Lava_Croftyeah, i know UK country lanes:)13:34
Lava_Croftup and down winding roads, i love them13:35
Lava_Crofthmm, so its the 15km/h max that ruins it all13:35
SpeedEvil'invalid carriage' is a separate and very limited class of vehicle.13:35
Lava_Croftwho would have thought :<13:35
Lava_Crofthere its just treated as a bicucle13:35
Lava_Croftbicycle* at least in her case it is13:35
Lava_Croftsince its just a bicycle to begin with, not an 'invalid carriage'13:36
SpeedEvilproblem is failing driving test due to failing concentration 30 main in.13:36
Lava_Crofthm13:36
Lava_Croftgotta love the law13:36
SpeedEvilminutes13:36
Lava_Crofti figured the typo:)13:37
Lava_Croftwell, that makes your situation pretty fucked up, to put it mildly13:37
SpeedEvilI need to find out how to feed this vkbd 20m of IEC logs from me.13:37
SpeedEvilirc13:37
Lava_Crofthah13:37
Lava_Croftno idea13:37
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Lava_Croftoh, the protocol surrounding ME with the NL equivalent of the NHS isnt all that either13:39
Lava_Crofti read now13:39
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SpeedEvilproblem is it's so variable. it ranges from people able to do fulltime work, and run a family, down to the bed-bound.13:42
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Lava_Croftthat's what critics in NL apparently say about the approach that our NHS takes to CVS/ME13:43
Lava_Crofta narrow view13:44
Lava_Croftor in quake terms, a low FOV :)13:44
SpeedEvilit's hard to assess right, without someone spending a couple of weeks watching you.13:46
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chem|stwe are polling everything and vote just BS! sd registered NFP named "hildon"...13:55
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chem|stjust a name though13:57
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vi__NHS is fucked.14:01
vi__Tories sold off the good shit last time round.14:01
vi__Now they are up for selling off the rest.14:01
vi__But you have free healthcare vi_14:02
vi__!14:02
vi__Then why do I have to pay for goddamned dental work?14:02
vi__WHy do I have to pay to extend the lives of fat useless smokers?14:03
vi__What are we complaining about here?14:03
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DocScrutinizer51I'm not fat!!!14:08
DocScrutinizer51useless mabe, but definitely not fat14:08
DocScrutinizer51baybe*14:08
DocScrutinizer51meh14:08
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DocScrutinizer51vi__: isn't like a packet of cigs is ~10GBP at yours? what do you think the 9GBP tax in it will pay for? To me it seems the smokers pay for you, not other way round14:15
DocScrutinizer51smokers pay billions of tax each year, and die conveniently early so all the tax can be used for the non-smokers14:16
DocScrutinizer51smoker-haters, BAH!14:17
DocScrutinizer51~ping14:21
infobot~pong14:21
lufDocScrutinizer51: like a forest? :D You'll win the olympic games :D14:21
DocScrutinizer51hmm?14:22
DocScrutinizer51luf: sory, please rephrase14:22
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lufDocScrutinizer51: you play ping + pong with the wall or the bot like Forest Gump ;)14:23
DocScrutinizer51aah14:23
fizzieStatistics for Finland from the Finnish Medical Association (I don't guarantee the quality of these) say that the yearly losses (direct health costs, loss of work, etc.) to "society" due to smoking are about 750-800 million euros, while the tax gained from sales of tobacco products is (very) slightly less than that.14:24
DocScrutinizer51let's ring some bells14:24
DocScrutinizer51~ding14:24
infobotdong14:24
DocScrutinizer51while that might be true for Finland, it for sure doesn't apply to countries like Germany or GB, where NHC is fuckedup14:26
DocScrutinizer51and actually I won't allow them to count in 'loss of work' costs. It's *MY* work, I own it and I get (or not) paid for it, that's nothing to do with cost to society since my wok isn't owned by society14:29
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ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer51: sup15:47
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer51: are u running for council/board?15:47
DocScrutinizer51omgomgomgomg :-P15:48
kerioDOCSCRUTINIZER/FREEMANGORDON 201215:49
DocScrutinizer51WUT?15:49
keriolike, yknow, elections15:50
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DocScrutinizer51don't dare to post a link, I'm mobile15:50
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DocScrutinizer51just tell me what you're suggesting15:51
DocScrutinizer51don't tell me FMG found time for council/board work in his calendar crammed with kernel hacking15:53
keriohaha15:53
keriohe should!15:53
DocScrutinizer51since if he did, I'd probably run as well, to show him I can perform similarly poor15:54
kerioomfg15:54
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kerioi vote DocScrutinizer as our eternal leader15:54
DocScrutinizer51honestly, I think that's a poor idea15:55
freemangordonkerio: don't spread FUD please15:55
DocScrutinizer51and neither council nor board are Leaders by any means15:55
DocScrutinizer51both are meant to provide a sort of service to community15:56
DocScrutinizer51not *lead*15:56
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DocScrutinizer51afk, daywork calling15:56
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rzr my rpi's arrived it is just behind my neighboor wall15:59
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r00t|homerzr: don't have any demolition tools around?16:13
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zsolthello everybody!need advice!i repartitioned emmc,got 14Gb fat,12Gb ext3 2Gb factory default emmc part and 700~Mb of swap17:18
zsolti willing to move everything from factory part to 12Gb partition17:18
zsoltused rsync17:18
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zsolthow to mount 12Gb new part as /home/opt?17:19
zsoltpatching vanilla kernel is not an option,since it is too dangerous17:19
zsoltsorry vanilla fs17:20
zsoltthank you so much17:20
kerio"patching"17:20
keriowhat?17:20
keriogo edit the place where /home/opt is bindmounted to /opt17:21
kerioinstead of doing that, mount your partition as /opt17:21
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zsoltit is a factory default phone and I'am an intermediate user,so could you tell me more details?17:22
zsoltwhere is this file to edit?17:22
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keriozsolt: edit the awk script that generates /etc/fstab17:24
kerio/opt is mounted with "mount /opt"17:24
keriozsolt: /usr/lib/genfstab.awk17:25
zsoltwell,I can't find any partition number17:27
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zsolti need to use mmcblk0p4 instead of mmcblk0p217:28
keriozsolt: oh god why17:28
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kerioso you actually moved the /home partition? :s17:28
kerioyou're screwed17:28
zsoltno17:28
zsoltdidn't17:28
keriooh, you just added a new partition at the end?17:29
zsoltjust rsynced to a new partition17:29
kerioneat17:29
keriostill kind of a bad idea, most things will expect /opt to be a bindmount to /home/opt17:29
zsolti know,but 2gigs are too small17:29
keriobut regardless, just change that line to "/dev/mmcblk0p4 /opt extwhatever whateveroptions 0 0"17:29
kerio(the line that says printf "/home/opt /opt/ none bind\n"17:30
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zsoltthat's sounds great:)17:31
zsoltthank you17:31
keriozsolt: a much, much, much more reliable solution would've been to make /home bigger17:31
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zsolti need a separate /opt partition17:32
keriono you don't17:32
keriounless you want to keep /home small, for some reason17:32
keriois there?17:34
keriohell, just /home in a separate partition forces maemo to do all kind of weird shit17:34
kerioadding another is even weirder17:34
zsolt:(17:35
keriozsolt: do you have a backupmenu backup?17:35
zsolti trying to keep original part untouched17:35
zsoltyes,i have17:35
zsoltno i'm in usb ssh17:36
keriothen you could do in a really cool way17:36
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keriothere's a file in the VANILLA image that decides the partition layout17:42
zsoltyes,i know17:45
kerioreflash, install previous kernel, install backupmenu, restore backupmenu backup17:45
zsolti patched the latest vanilla image17:46
zsoltbut I'm not so curious to flash it17:47
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zsoltok,now got a that awk file17:52
zsoltseems it doesn't regenerates the fstab only if I change something there17:52
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keriozsolt: it's generated on boot18:08
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zsoltwhat about /etc/event.d/rcS-late?18:09
zsoltgoogled a lot18:09
zsoltbut didn't find any solution18:09
keriowhich "solution"?18:10
kerio/etc/fstab is generated every boot18:10
kerioon your next boot, you'll get your modified fstab18:10
kerioif you want to change it now... change it18:10
kerioit's a text file18:10
StyXmanor just remove the call to the generator and live with a user managed fstab :)18:11
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zsoltwhere can i remove that call?18:12
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keriozsolt: it's a file in /etc/event.d afaik18:15
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zsoltthank you18:16
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kerio"This file was generated by scripts /etc/event.d/rcS-late and /usr/lib/genfstab.awk"18:17
keriozsolt: seriously, you're doing something stupid with this18:18
kerioStyXman: do you have a manual /etc/fstab?18:19
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DocScrutinizer51lol18:22
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DocScrutinizer51you kids seem to have some fun :-)18:22
DocScrutinizer51while I waste my daytime to figure how to make WinXP taskmgr start on every boot18:25
DocScrutinizer51anyway18:25
DocScrutinizer51~jrtools18:26
infobotwell, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools18:26
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StyXmankerio: used to18:30
kerioStyXman: why did you stop?18:31
zsolti did it,i did it:)18:32
StyXmankerio: at the end it made no sense having a µSD in ext*18:32
StyXmanbeh, I still have it18:33
zsoltuncommented lines and printf options >/etc/fstab18:33
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DocScrutinizer05I honestly hope for you  you'll survive next boot18:38
rm_workDocScrutinizer51: err, add a shortcut to Taskmgr.exe to the Startup folder? :P18:39
rm_worksounds like a boring day18:39
DocScrutinizer05rrrright18:39
bigoteslol18:39
DocScrutinizer05just have to use torturing memories of c:\windows\system32\18:39
rm_workwell, sounds a lot like my job too anyway :P18:40
DocScrutinizer05since, well, seems taskmgr has no 'icon' anywhere18:41
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DocScrutinizer05and my fist approach been to create a shortcut on desktop just to drag&drop it inot the autostart menu, just to find this creates a link to the desktop "icon2 I planned to delete after the action18:43
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DocScrutinizer05first* "icon"18:43
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DocScrutinizer05and still it seems the taskmgr option "minimize ob start" is defunct18:44
DocScrutinizer05silly stuff18:44
lufDocScrutinizer05: how is it related to maemo?18:45
DocScrutinizer05luckily not at all, besides this nonsense doesn't allow me to dedicate more time to maemo/council/board18:46
DocScrutinizer05and drives me nuts anyway18:46
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kerioi wonder if there's a way to open a fifo with openmediaplayer19:02
kerio(as a stream, obviously)19:02
Woody14619<DocScrutinizer51> both are meant to provide a sort of service to community19:03
Woody14619Just won my vote....  Just saying...19:03
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kerioyep19:04
keriojoerg for president!19:05
DocScrutinizer05If you're crazy enough to vote a president who's constantly grumpy, lacks any social skills, and promises to dedicate no more than max 2h/week to that job, then go ahead ;-P19:07
rm_workDocScrutinizer05: oh... that's it?19:08
kerioeveryone knows that you're always here anyway19:08
rm_workDocScrutinizer05: A, you can rightclick->drag the icon to the startup folder and choose copy instead of link19:08
rm_worksecond, you could open the startup folder in explorer and create the shortcut there directly19:08
DocScrutinizer05rrright19:08
rm_workthird, taskmgr DOES have an "icon", in that you can browse to it and right click->drag it to the startup folder too19:09
DocScrutinizer05if it wasn't friggin windows, I probably would've known19:09
DocScrutinizer05(drag to start folder) would seem it creates a copy of the binary19:10
rm_workright click drag19:10
rm_worknot left click drah19:10
rm_work*drag19:10
rm_workright click drag always gives you a menu with you drop19:10
rm_workwith options19:10
Woody14619DocScrutinizer05:  grumpy & lacks social skills?  I can think of at least 2 of those elected the last cycle. ;)19:10
DocScrutinizer05OOOH mighty mytserious magic ;-P19:10
rm_workthe left click drag default is usually dumb :P19:11
rm_workcopy when you want move, link when you want copy, move when you want link, etc19:11
rm_workjust don't do it :P19:11
DocScrutinizer05well, I use shift and ctrl modifier keys19:11
rm_workwell then, ALT is "link"19:11
Woody14619rm_work: actually, it's pretty predictable.  copy when on the same media, move when not, and link when going to a "special folder" (desktop, start menu, etc)19:11
DocScrutinizer05but yeah, seems sometimes it doesn't do what i'd expect it to19:12
rm_workin the same way that ctl/shift are copy/move19:12
rm_workWoody14619: well, yes, *I* know that19:12
rm_workbut from the perspective of a normal user it is pretty random19:12
Woody14619True19:12
rm_workDocScrutinizer05: anyway, you got it now? :P19:13
DocScrutinizer05sure19:13
DocScrutinizer05just annoyed me another 10 min of my life19:13
DocScrutinizer05this afternoon19:13
rm_workwould have helped earlier but i thought you were being sarcastic about it :/19:13
rm_workthe perils of text on the internet19:13
DocScrutinizer05and taskmgr still come up with full window, not in systray19:14
rm_workheh19:14
rm_workyou want it to start minimized with "hide on minimize" option set?19:14
DocScrutinizer05yep19:14
rm_workgo to the shortcut for taskmgr you made, and go to properties19:15
DocScrutinizer05(I would even prefer it to not be closeable at all by 'normal' means. I.E. closing the window just minimizes, or alternatively no [X] close button at upper right at all)19:16
rm_workthat's... harder19:16
DocScrutinizer05I think I managed that once, like 12 years ago19:16
rm_workanyway, on the "shortcut" tab, just change the dropdown for "run" from normal to minimized19:16
rm_workand once you set the option for "hide when minimized" once, it'll stay19:17
DocScrutinizer05HEY, mille gracie!19:17
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rm_workDocScrutinizer05: the SECOND option on this page would be easier to roll out en-mass: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/permanently-add-the-task-manager-to-your-system-tray/531859419:18
rm_workjust make a registry file and run it on every machine, done19:18
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DocScrutinizer05nice19:19
rm_workyou know how to make a registry file?19:19
rm_worknot sure if you're used to working with windows >_>19:19
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rm_worksorry if i'm vastly underestimating your skill level :P19:19
rm_workbut sometimes with linux stuff people used to tell me "obviously you just need to make a startup script for this daemon" and i'd be like "WUT"19:20
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DocScrutinizer05sure19:23
DocScrutinizer05I know regedit19:23
DocScrutinizer05but I won't need a .reg file right now for that, as it's only for my fsckng machine at job19:24
DocScrutinizer05rm_work: thanks a lot :-)19:24
rm_worklol19:24
rm_workyeah np :P19:24
SkryI'm totally lost with windows, last time had one installed was xp when it was released, for few months.19:26
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DocScrutinizer05last time I seriously touched those windows abominations been last century. since then I managed to mostly avid management of any such machine. Alas in industry you usually aren't admin of your own workstation, and you have to use what the company puts in front of you19:27
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DocScrutinizer05avoid*19:27
jacekowskiFFS, useless omron19:28
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jacekowskii've had VSD blow up today19:28
jacekowskinot here19:29
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keriovsd?19:30
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Skryshould have paid more attention at school when we had C, I'm mentally so limited that I just cant get into that shit :S19:35
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rm_workI use Windows and Linux about equally19:35
rm_workI worked for quite a bit both before and during college as a windows repair guy19:36
rm_workit's just a specific design mindset19:37
rm_workdunno why i'm rambling useless info19:37
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SkryPali: can I bug you some more about the charger driver?19:46
Paliyes19:46
SkryI'll query you19:46
rzrI fixed mine19:50
kerioSkry: but i'm interested too :(19:56
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Skrykerio: what do you want to know?19:58
keriostuffs19:58
Skrystuffs about what? :D19:58
keriothe charger driver20:00
kerioand the bme replacement20:00
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Skrykerio: charger driver works, you really should already be thanking Pali20:06
Palikerio, bq2415x_charger already working in kernel-power20:07
Palibut Skry testing it with upstream kernel20:07
kerioneat20:07
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kerioalright, i just sold my soul to the devil20:32
keriometaphorically20:32
kerioi installed a whatsapp client D:20:33
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DocScrutinizer05~broken-maemo21:18
infobotbroken-maemo is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/known_broken_packages see this list for deprecated known borked packages21:18
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: sure metaphorically. No sane devil would pay for your soul ;-P21:30
deepyDon't listen to him, I'd pay even if it was just slightly discounted21:40
myuu__yeah im on win7 now i get so confused21:40
myuu__but ive been having to use it more and more for class21:41
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dump_01hi ppl! Please help me to locate sound profile configuration files on my n900. I want to copy General profile and create another one w/ different volume settings. Yes, i can create new profile w/ ProfilesX, but it will be completely new profile, but i want to copy General and edit some variables. Thanks in advance.22:59
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vi___some piece of shit has registered my nickname!23:00
bigotesyou should have registered first23:00
vi___merlin1991: ping!23:01
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n900_hello23:02
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vi___mmc fails to sync after mass storage mode.  Add sync to the end of osso-usb-mass-storage-disable for maximum win.23:03
vi___Helloer:23:03
vi___n900_: hello23:03
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rapidfire101what the default location of downloads in maemo n900 the pwd for it23:14
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keriovi___: "fails to sync"?23:16
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dump_01so, where to search for profile configuration on n900?23:26
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keriohow expensive is jabber, in term of data and thus battery drain?23:46
rzrless that skype23:48
vi___kerio: jabber==feck all.23:49
keriorzr: it's also less expensive than folding@home, i assume23:49
kerioit's not really helpful23:49
vi___one can only assume skype is riddled with spy-spam.23:49
kerioit's like saying an algorithm is O(busybeaver(n))23:49
jacekowskikerio: a lot23:50
keriojacekowski: even on wifi?23:50
vi___dump_01: why can't you just copy it manually? it is only a few parameters.23:50
kerio:(23:50
jacekowskikerio: even more on wifi23:50
kerio...wait, what?23:50
jacekowskiit's better to have it on 2g with wifi off23:50
vi___jacekowski: I think kt is slightly less that a lot.  I think it is 'qute a bit'.23:50
dump_01vi___: i can, and i think i will do23:51
keriojacekowski: hold on, why would jabber on gprs be cheaper than jabber on wifi?23:51
keriowifi has powersaving23:51
jacekowskihave you ever seen that powersaving working?23:52
vi___lol. powersaving.23:52
jacekowskiwifi uses plenty of power compared to idling 2g23:52
jacekowskiand with wifi on you still have 2g/3g running23:53
vi___what is your profession jacekowski ?23:54
jacekowskiwhy do you ask?23:55
vi___Just curious.23:55
jacekowskiat the moment, it seems to be blowing up VSDs23:55
vi___~VSD23:55
* ShadowJK gets about same power consumption with xchat on 2g as on wifi. My old accesspoint caused about double power consumption on wifi, but only when windows PCs were active on the LAN23:56
vi___this will make you laugh.23:56
vi___My boos says today, I want you to toughen up the serial port control of our sensor.23:57
vi___there is some bug that causes it to freak out and delete whole pages of flash.23:57
vi___holy shit I say, that is serious.23:57
vi___apparently it is because there is garbage on the line.23:58
vi___wrap it in ferrite I suggest.23:58
vi___No he says, the garbage comes from the software communicating with the device.23:59
vi___where does that software come from I asked.23:59
vi___He says it is in house.23:59

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