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| Jef91 | Are there any tools out there to create an image of my current n900 setup? | 00:13 |
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| Jef91 | So I can just reflash it all at once later? | 00:13 |
| jacekowski | backupmenu | 00:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | backupmenu | 00:13 |
| kerio | backupmenu | 00:14 |
| kerio | although you can't easily reflash it, but it's pretty quick to flash the nokia images, install backupmenu and restore from there | 00:15 |
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| vi__ | i went to a modern art museum today. | 00:28 |
| vi__ | there were 2 jet engines on the lawn out front. | 00:29 |
| vi__ | some artist had stuffed them with anti depressents. | 00:29 |
| vi__ | 2 10 foot long turbine jets stuffed with SSRIs. | 00:30 |
| vi__ | to represent depression or somthing. | 00:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | modern art makes me laugh | 00:30 |
| vi__ | worst | 00:30 |
| vi__ | art | 00:30 |
| vi__ | ever | 00:30 |
| vi__ | there was a canvas. | 00:31 |
| vi__ | the top left quarter was painted white. | 00:31 |
| vi__ | it had 3 black lines across the center. | 00:32 |
| vi__ | 1 perpendicular to the other 2. | 00:32 |
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| vi__ | apparently it was controverial at the time as it represented a radical change for the artist who never used two parallell lines before. | 00:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | 150 empty CD jewel cases standing up in a masking tape square. | 00:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | on the floor | 00:34 |
| vi__ | I told the guard it was derivative of whitginsteins corrugated sets from the 30's. | 00:34 |
| vi__ | sixwheeledbeast: utterly retarded. | 00:34 |
| vi__ | it would seem when you get famous enough you can punt any old tat and people will awe. | 00:35 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | some aren't famous yet tho. | 00:35 |
| vi__ | I wish somone with some credability would shout 'hay, the king is naked!' | 00:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | the CD case thing was a modern art uni project | 00:36 |
| vi__ | sixwheeledbeast: hah! | 00:36 |
| sixwheeledbeast | 4 years work, lmao | 00:36 |
| vi__ | I wish I was art savvy enough to spot your hoax! | 00:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | got to see "modern art" when visiting a uni mate in coventry. | 00:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I just couldn't stop laughing had to leave the room | 00:37 |
| vi__ | tracy emin in 'oh god I shit the bed again'. | 00:38 |
| vi__ | do you remember the light bulb going on and off from a couple of years ago? | 00:39 |
| vi__ | It won the tate prize. | 00:39 |
| vi__ | fuck everything. | 00:39 |
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| Estel_ | vi__, some modernj art makes sense, though | 01:47 |
| Estel_ | I remember one with pope's figure, crushed by a meteor | 01:47 |
| Estel_ | or a table, where You sit in front of 1nd visitor (usually, someone that came with You - relative, friend, loved one, etc), and, due to some tricks with light, illusions, etc, her/his face turns into chinese guy speaking his story of working in Apple's factory in China | 01:49 |
| Estel_ | (face and story "took" from real case, BTW) | 01:50 |
| Estel_ | s/speaking/telling/ | 01:50 |
| Estel_ | I think that there always was an Art and "art", no matter of style used, or time period. Some paintings of classical artists are total shit too. BTW, S. Dali was best - few times, he contracted few dilletans to pain a picture for him, then, he signed it, and got absolutely positive reviews from criticas | 01:51 |
| Estel_ | critics* | 01:51 |
| Estel_ | later, he always laughed at them very hard | 01:51 |
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| RiD | hello there. Anyone been having problems with flash (on n900) not working on many sites? | 04:00 |
| Jef91 | whats the page that lists the gconf settings for the SSU? I can never find it >.< | 04:00 |
| Jef91 | RiD might be related to n900 only having like flash 9.4 | 04:00 |
| Jef91 | most need a newer version | 04:00 |
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| RiD | yeah, i know about that already. But apparently many decided o switch or so | 04:00 |
| RiD | liveleak.com, for example.That site hasn't seen a change for years | 04:01 |
| RiD | yet flash doesn't work on it anymore *cries* | 04:01 |
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| jonwil | is there a way to find out more about whats happening to my N900 battery (i.e. more than just the flashing "its charging" indicator)? | 05:30 |
| jonwil | I am seeing some wierdness where its draining a LOT faster than it should be | 05:30 |
| jonwil | right now it claims to be charging thank god | 05:31 |
| * jonwil remebers bq2700.sh | 05:31 | |
| jonwil | ok, that one is giving me a "time to full" | 05:32 |
| jonwil | Not sure which number is for the current charge level of the battery though | 05:32 |
| jonwil | is charge measured in amps or volts? | 05:32 |
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| jonwil | amps is hovering around 830 | 05:33 |
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| jonwil | and volts is going up and is somewhere around 3970 | 05:33 |
| jonwil | ttf keeps jumping around 138 or 139 or so | 05:33 |
| jonwil | Hopefully once this is charged, things will be back to normal | 05:34 |
| jonwil | If not, I may be up for a new battery :( (or worse, a new N900) | 05:34 |
| ShadowJK | ./bq27200.sh 5 | 05:36 |
| ShadowJK | for live display | 05:37 |
| jonwil | ok, so which number should I be reading to see if its actually charging? | 05:37 |
| ShadowJK | RSOC and CSOC: current charge level in percents. NAC CACD CACT: Current charge level in mAh. TTF: time to full in minutes, TTE: time to empty in minutes. | 05:37 |
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| ShadowJK | mA: Current net rate into/out of battery. Positive value indicates charging, negative value indicates discharging | 05:38 |
| jonwil | so as long as RSOC and CSOC are going up, its actually putting juice into the battery? | 05:38 |
| ShadowJK | Note that at close to full battery, it's not unusual to see some slight discharging when screen is on | 05:38 |
| jonwil | ok | 05:38 |
| jonwil | well this battery is far from full | 05:38 |
| jonwil | both RSOC and CSOC are currently at 20 | 05:39 |
| ShadowJK | If you run it without options, what does it say for last measured discharge? | 05:39 |
| jonwil | 1511Mah | 05:39 |
| ShadowJK | a bit too high :) | 05:39 |
| jonwil | what does that mean? | 05:40 |
| jonwil | I do know that when I went to my phone earlier to check something, it was totally flat as in auto-power-off | 05:40 |
| ShadowJK | The bq27200 chip is by default calibrated for a 2000mAh battery. It has the ability to learn the actual capacity, but the step from 2000 to 1320 is kinda big, so usually you don't see it relearning all the way | 05:40 |
| jonwil | yes I know for a fact I had it charged all the way to green last night | 05:41 |
| jonwil | I know because I made a phone call then plugged it in to recharge | 05:41 |
| jonwil | Best thing to do is to let it charge all the way until it turns green | 05:41 |
| jonwil | then unplug it and see what happens | 05:42 |
| jonwil | right now its at 20% | 05:42 |
| HtheB | e-yes | 05:43 |
| HtheB | sup | 05:43 |
| jonwil | A new battery for my phone is the last thing I want to have to buy so lets hope its not broken | 05:44 |
| jonwil | This is one of the reasons why I like the N900, you can get so much technical information about what the battery is doing and is supposed to be doing | 05:45 |
| jonwil | On an iPhone or Android device, you would probably only get a "hey its charging" indicator | 05:46 |
| jonwil | and no way to know how full it is | 05:46 |
| jonwil | or what its doing | 05:46 |
| FIQ|n900 | in fact, IIRC you can get some info out of batteries on android | 05:51 |
| FIQ|n900 | on iphone on the other hand... | 05:51 |
| FIQ|n900 | can you even change battery on an iphone? | 05:51 |
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| FIQ|n900 | also | 05:55 |
| FIQ|n900 | where is this battery shellscript in question? | 05:55 |
| nox- | FIQ|n900, no, and even macbooks now have their batteries glued in... | 05:55 |
| FIQ|n900 | i.e. bq27200.sh | 05:55 |
| FIQ|n900 | nox-: evil | 05:55 |
| FIQ|n900 | but that's typical apple | 05:56 |
| FIQ|n900 | any single part broken? go and buy a new mac/iphone/whatever! | 05:56 |
| nox- | indeed | 05:56 |
| nox- | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence | 05:56 |
| ShadowJK | FIQ|n900, http://enivax.net/jk/n900/bq.tar - become root, put it in /root, tar -xf bq.tar, ./bq27200.sh | 05:58 |
| ShadowJK | or ./bq27200.sh 5 | 05:59 |
| ShadowJK | for a line by line monitoring output every 5 secs | 05:59 |
| FIQ|n900 | ok | 06:01 |
| FIQ|n900 | ty | 06:01 |
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| FIQ|n900 | is mA supposed to be negative? | 06:04 |
| FIQ|n900 | i.e. -300ish | 06:04 |
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| jonwil | mA being negative indicates current drain | 06:11 |
| jonwil | i.e. how much current the phone is using | 06:11 |
| jonwil | if its charging, mA should be positive | 06:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually it just means current in or out of battery. When you got it plugged to charger, it doesn't really tell anything about phone consumption | 09:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except when battery is discharging while on charger, you can tell phone consumes more power than charging circuit can deliver. This usually results in according notifier warning about the fact | 09:23 |
| jonwil | hopefully whatever wierdness happened earlier doesn't indicate any kind of problem with my phone or battery | 09:25 |
| jonwil | as of now its fully charged and seems to be staying at maximum bars in the battery indicator | 09:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. connecting N900 to an unpowered USB hub will result in 100mA from USB (worst case) which almost certainly will be less than what N900 consumes -> battery discharging despite plugged to USB and allegedly "charging" | 09:26 |
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| jonwil | how it got all the way down to "empty enough that it booted into blank-screen-emergency-charge-mode" in such a short space of time is a real WTF though | 09:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jonwil: stopping and restarting bme quite usually results in completely bogus and too low battery charge indicator | 09:27 |
| jonwil | well I certainly did not do that | 09:27 |
| jonwil | stop or restart BME that is | 09:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this however shouldn't result in shutdown and for sure not in emergency-charge | 09:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, batteries that are "original" (means, like 3 years old now) may actually wear out meanwhile | 09:29 |
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| jonwil | well if I see anything else wierd happening, I will dig deeper but for now it looks fine | 09:31 |
| jonwil | :) | 09:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bq27200.sh 5 >>mybatlog.txt ;-) | 09:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err | 09:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bq27200.sh 60 >>mybatlog.txt ;-) | 09:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | *maybe* even a script in /etc/init.d/ (plus links to runlevels) doing "exec >>/var/log/batlog.txt; echo "######## `date` restarting #######"; /path/to/bq27200.sh 60" | 09:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | btw http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/ | 09:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/ | 09:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | btw anybody used http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/sbin/start-hostmode ? | 10:15 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: in theory, pali's usbmode does everything you might want, wrt host mode | 11:33 |
| kerio | with kp51r1 | 11:33 |
| kerio | but it requires the weird bq24k module | 11:33 |
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| kerio | i think it works fine for vboosting, though | 11:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so what? | 11:54 |
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| kerio | so why would i use that script? :) | 11:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe bacause it's been around since 6 months now? | 11:54 |
| kerio | k | 11:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe because you could debug and tweak it easily | 11:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aand maybe because it does things pali's bq24150.ko definitely can't do | 11:56 |
| kerio | really? :o | 11:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | starting with the obvious fact it's a script and thus an "executable" | 11:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so _my_script_ might use i2c-tools or alternatively bq24150.ko, but that wouldn't change the need of a script | 12:00 |
| chem|st | re | 12:01 |
| kerio | usbmode.sh is a shellscript too :) | 12:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey chem|st | 12:01 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: what could I? | 12:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 12:01 |
| chem|st | 10 days ago... | 12:01 |
| chem|st | was on vacation | 12:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nfc ;-) | 12:01 |
| chem|st | fine ;) | 12:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my wetware recorder replays "nobody can do anything about it" "or could you, chem|st?" | 12:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably sth about tmo | 12:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | heavy spamming or sth | 12:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: hope you enjoyed your vacation | 12:09 |
| chem|st | I did indeed! | 12:10 |
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| JION_a | nokia ovi suite will not let me reflash my frim where from the ovi program from nokia what can i do? | 14:53 |
| JION_a | on the NOKIA N900 | 14:53 |
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| JION_a | i can not seem to lock on to wifi | 14:53 |
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| andre__ | JION_a, what is a "frim"? | 15:00 |
| JION_a | frim ware | 15:01 |
| JION_a | os build | 15:01 |
| andre__ | firmware. | 15:03 |
| JION_a | firmware | 15:03 |
| JION_a | yes | 15:03 |
| andre__ | see https://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware | 15:04 |
| JION_a | thanks | 15:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~weather eddn | 15:47 |
| infobot | Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2012.08.20 1220 UTC; Dew Point: 60 F (16 C); Heat index: 95.2 F (35.1 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.06 in. Hg (1018 hPa); Relative Humidity: 32%; Temperature: 95 F (35 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the W (270 degrees) at 6 MPH (5 KT) | 15:47 |
| StyXman | 35! | 15:49 |
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| Estel_ | freemangordon, ping | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | Estel_: pong | 19:21 |
| Estel_ | see query, pls | 19:22 |
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| Raimu | Did anyone ever write a n900 app for manipulating contacts on the SIM card? | 20:38 |
| Raimu | The stock apps can only import from SIM, and I searched tmo only to pick up some two ancient threads where the answer was "Nokia didn't write the app, needed to get the n900 out quick". | 20:39 |
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| kgu | ~cssu new release | 20:51 |
| kgu | ~cssu | 20:51 |
| infobot | somebody said cssu was http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 20:51 |
| kerio | Raimu: why bother? | 20:53 |
| kerio | it's going to be painful to make one that works | 20:53 |
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| Raimu | I was mainly curious. | 21:25 |
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| kgu | Is it possible to see a list somewhere of work in progress for next cssu release? | 21:34 |
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| merlin1991 | kgu: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | (if you're talking about -testing) | 22:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer06 | Raimu: see what pnsatd and AT commands can give you | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | pnatd | 23:08 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | sorry | 23:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer06 | Raimu: sorry, forget it, modem doesn't support: | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | at+cpbs=? | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | ERROR | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | at+cpbr=? | 23:12 |
| DocScrutinizer06 | ERROR | 23:12 |
| Raimu | :| | 23:14 |
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