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sLumPiawhich is the safer step to install nitdroid:16:35
sLumPia1.install nitdroid then u-boot16:35
sLumPia2.install u-boot then nitdroid?16:35
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sLumPiaoops, i dont know #nitdroid exist16:43
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DocScrutinizer51~maemo-multiboot17:02
infoboti guess maemo-multiboot is deprecated, and a horrible hack.  PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED17:02
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DocScrutinizer51afaik nitdroid isn't compatible with uBoot (I wish the droid dudes had changed that meanwhile)17:03
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keriomultiboot, aka nand destroyer17:10
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narcosHey all. My N900 has suddenly stopped recognizing my usb port17:36
narcosSuch that, "ifconfig usb0 up" results in "siocsifaddr no such device"17:36
narcosDoing an lsmod | grep -i usb doesn't return any results17:36
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jacekowskino usbnetworking then17:37
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narcosjacekowski: It doesn't charge over USB via PC either anymore18:03
jacekowskiyour usb port is gone18:03
narcos:(18:03
narcosIs this a common thing...?18:03
jacekowskivery common18:03
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narcosjacekowski: Is there a fix, or that's it?18:11
jacekowskithat's it18:12
ZogG_laptopnarcos: do not use ti, carefull disassemble and fix it18:12
jacekowskiwell, depends on exactly what happened18:12
ZogG_laptopjacekowski: there is fix18:12
ZogG_laptopthere 3 fixes18:12
jacekowskinot if he lifted tracks off pcb18:12
ZogG_laptopone is you can still repair it18:12
ZogG_laptop2 you can solder cables to mb18:12
jacekowskiand that's most common18:12
jacekowskiZogG_laptop: you can't18:12
jacekowskithere is nowhere to solder them to in most caes18:13
ZogG_laptop3 you can use wireless charging batteries as i saw someone did on TMO18:13
jacekowskinarcos: take it apart and see how badly damaged is it18:13
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jacekowskinarcos: there is slim chance that it can be repaired18:13
jacekowskinarcos: very slim18:13
ZogG_laptopjacekowski: there is thread on TMO with instruction, so you do can.18:13
jacekowskiZogG_laptop: read that thread18:13
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ZogG_laptopjacekowski: let's say you can make it charging, without data18:14
narcosI can still charge from the wall socket though?18:14
jacekowskinarcos: it needs data lines to charge18:15
jacekowskinarcos: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54762&page=218:15
jacekowskinarcos: but it all depends on how badly it is damaged18:16
jacekowskiand what happened18:16
narcosahhh18:16
narcoso18:16
narcos*ok18:16
narcosIt's weird - it was working fine yesterday, but today it only charges from the wall socket, not via PC.18:17
jacekowskiahm18:17
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jacekowskithat sort of thing18:17
jacekowskithen it may be something else18:17
jacekowskirestart your pc18:17
jacekowskiand phone18:17
jacekowskiand try different usb port on pc18:18
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jacekowskiand different usb cable18:18
jacekowskii've seen usb ports in pcs just wear and fail18:18
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ZogG_laptopjacekowski:  http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71414 i talked about that18:19
narcosI've tried turning it off and on, and on a different PC.18:19
narcosAlso, when I plug it in via USB the pixels in the top left go a bit weird18:19
narcos(from PC)18:19
ZogG_laptopnarcos: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920&highlight=soldering+battery all the info in one place with links to relevant threads18:19
jacekowskiZogG_laptop: that's rapuyama usb not main omap18:19
ZogG_laptopnarcos: do not plug and unplug it18:19
narcosZogG_laptop: why?18:20
ZogG_laptopnarcos: i had problem with sometimes and working and sometimes not working, and i could fix18:20
ZogG_laptopbut by playing with it i ripped it off at all, and made it worse18:20
narcosah ok18:22
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Pali~usbfix18:24
infobotsomebody said usbfix was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)18:24
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Palinarcos ^^^18:24
narcosPali: Ta18:24
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ZogG_laptopPali: i used expo after fiz and ruined it more :P18:33
narcosWell, I left the phone off for 20 mins, plugged it back in, and now it works18:40
narcosAh, and quickly reports 'not charging, insufficient power'18:40
narcosbut the usb0 interface is present18:41
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Palinarcos, usb0 (in n900) is present if kernel driver g_nokia is loaded18:47
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Palior kernel driver g_ether18:48
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DocScrutinizer51reflash!18:51
kerioreflash! reflash! reflash!18:52
kerioand then bmrestore? idk18:52
DocScrutinizer51why? to restore the fuckup?18:53
keriobmrestore an old backup :)18:53
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kerioi think i only have latest and second latest, though18:54
kerio:/18:54
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kerioholy shit19:07
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kerioi just removed my otter box19:07
kerioi didn't know the n900 was so tiny19:07
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narcosSo, after disassembling my N900 - should I notice that the USB port is loose?19:48
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teotwakidepends on your sexual orientation, I guess.20:13
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teotwaki'later all20:33
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DocScrutinizer05narcos: why would you disassemble your device?21:31
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Estel_freemangordon,  zeq1, lame question - how to properly install fennec add-ons in N900's version?21:38
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zeq1Estel_: you should be able to use the settings screen available from the left control panel21:39
zeq1sorry I mean right*21:39
Estel_trying to do it "holy way" result in "can't open file, tap to download". Not to mention that @[])@) fennec doesn't ask where to download, nor tells me where it did - can't find any settings for that too, at least without searching in about:21:39
Estel_zeq1,  sure, I am, to the point where I decide to install anything21:39
Estel_of course I'm using your thumb version21:40
zeq1I'm not sure what add-ons are compatible21:40
zeq1I haven't tried any21:40
Estel_I'm trying fennec ones21:40
zeq1actually, I think I did...21:41
zeq1I don't remember21:41
Estel_i.e. marked as compatible with fennec, exclusively. I remember it worked on ancient non-thumb versions for N90021:41
Estel_well, maybe itms because Maemo as system doesnmt know how to handle those .xpi (or something) extension filea21:41
Estel_s/filea/files/21:41
infobotEstel_ meant: well, maybe itms because Maemo as system doesnmt know how to handle those .xpi (or something) extension files21:41
Estel_and fennec somehow catches it, and display own "can't open" pop-up?21:42
Estel_in such case, some kinf of manual install should work. Chromium in Easy Debian require unpacking extension and manual installation, no idea how to do it in Fennec21:42
zeq1Estel_: it should work as long as you have a compatible add-on version21:43
Estel_but, but, it doesn't even try to install it or open21:43
zeq1I'm pretty sure I got that far21:43
Estel_it just says that it can't open it, before actually trying. Maybe it works only, when You select add-on from Fennec menu - i.e. from few first results...21:43
Estel_but doesn't work if You select "show all xxx results" that open web-page with addons?21:44
zeq1yes, I'm pretty sure you have to do it through the install add-on screen21:44
Estel_hm, so need to tune my keywords for search to force it into showing me desired result amongst first few. Thanks21:45
Estel_and that thing about downloaded files location? any idea how to make it ask me where to save?21:45
zeq1good question nfc21:46
Estel_thanks, nevertheless :) I also have nfc about where it saves it automaticaly (will abuse find)21:47
Estel_fennec still amazes me, when it comes to lack of basic funcionalities. Thanks a lot for fixing this bastard, guys :)21:48
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Estel_freemangordon,  zeq, fennec segfaulting 100% times, when I change language from settings (from "auto" to "english"):22:07
Estel_http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?3d018112f9a5d25f#TXNXGjjUdX6bPZF6TMLETIXWbiZAJ6cfKvZ18pXbCL8=22:07
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narcosDocScrutinizer: You missed my previous convo, where I was advised to do so :)23:24
narcosAnyway, solved my problem, bought a new N900 on ebay :P23:24
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DocScrutinizer05no, you missed my concise conclusion from all that and advise to you: reflash!23:28
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DocScrutinizer05the advise to disassemble N900 was done lightheaded, and no proper analysis of error pattern justified that advise23:30
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DocScrutinizer05s/vise/vice/g23:31
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: the advice to disassemble N900 was done lightheaded, and no proper analysis of error pattern justified that advice23:31
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DocScrutinizer05actually your statement that charging from wallcharger still works kinda gives strong indications that you don't suffer from any hw problem23:32
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DocScrutinizer05(or your hw problem is actually not fixable, since it would be a broken musb-core then, since USB receptacle and PHY have to be ok for charging from wallcharger)23:44
javispedrohiya DocScrutinizer0523:46
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DocScrutinizer05hi javispedro23:46
DocScrutinizer05narcos: anyway, I'd love to buy your broken N900 ;-)23:48
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kerioi'll pay whatever DocScrutinizer05 pays plus 0.01€23:48
DocScrutinizer05don't trust kerio!23:50
DocScrutinizer05he'll not act according to his words23:50
keriolies!23:50
javispedrohe'll pay 0.005 instead of 0.0123:51
kerioit would still be convenient, mind you23:51
DocScrutinizer05ok, how's that? narcos, 600EUR23:51
javispedroO.o23:51
kerioi'll pay whatever DocScrutinizer05 *pays*23:52
javispedroI sell! I sell!23:52
keriojavispedro: woosh?23:52
javispedrowhooo $.$ ssshh23:52
DocScrutinizer05javispedro: I'm waiting for kerio either to offer 600.01 or admit he's not honest23:52
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kerioif i admitted i'm not honest, would i be honest?23:53
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DocScrutinizer05no worries, you stay a dishonest dude23:53
DocScrutinizer05;-P23:53
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DocScrutinizer05unless I see narcos confirming a payment of 600.01EUR from you23:55
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* DocScrutinizer05 idly ponders to sell a proper true diagnostics tool via OVI store or similar web based shop - rather than bantering kerio23:57
narcosDocScrutinizer: Sorry, I feel like we're having a lagged convo here :) Didn't notice your reflash comment - think that's all I need?23:58
DocScrutinizer05probably23:58
narcosDocScrutinizer: Actually I'd already ordered the second N900 - by chance it arrived an hour after my existing one broke23:59
DocScrutinizer05anyway, more likely than a hw fix to USB port23:59
Sicelosomeone's selling an N900 on tmo. US$100. /me is tempted23:59
narcosSo, kerio will buy it for EUR600,01? :)23:59

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