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| Estel_ | jon-kha, unfortunately, I have no clue - I haven't touched this device yet | 00:00 |
| Estel_ | BTw, farnell send it to me some times ago and turned out to be shit company, but today, I got info about element14 sending it to me via DHL | 00:01 |
| jacekowski | jon-kha: well, it looks like it's dead | 00:01 |
| Estel_ | WTF? i'm going to get 2 at the end? | 00:01 |
| jacekowski | jon-kha: you should get at least somethig on the termianl | 00:01 |
| jacekowski | jon-kha: even without the sd card | 00:01 |
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| freemangordon | zeq: what? | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | I think there was showFulscreen() | 00:02 |
| zeq | was there? I might have missed it... just tried putting it in where we set up the top level widget | 00:03 |
| jon-kha | jacekowski it does not show anything, so i guess also that it's dead | 00:03 |
| jacekowski | well, it's not a software problem | 00:04 |
| jacekowski | double check if your supply is ok | 00:04 |
| jacekowski | and if it is, well, it's proper fucked | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | zeq: И тхинк со, лемме греп | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | sorry | 00:04 |
| jon-kha | There was 4,92v between tp1 and tp2 | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | I think so, lemme grep | 00:04 |
| jon-kha | so it should be ok | 00:04 |
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| Estel_ | suuuuuure. Yesterday, i tried for hour all scenarios, and camera-ui2 hanged everytime I've finished recoridng video. Now, where I want to catch syslog output, it "just works" | 00:06 |
| Estel_ | wtfd? | 00:06 |
| zeq | it's just that it occurred to me that we should be available minus the title-bar when fullscreen | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | you meen fennec title bar? | 00:07 |
| zeq | I mean HILDON title-bar | 00:07 |
| Estel_ | freemangordon, I thing I've found why nicolaicam hangs and when | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | or hildon one | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | Estel_: why? | 00:07 |
| Estel_ | it show this behavior only, when I've pasued recording at least once | 00:07 |
| Estel_ | then, it hangs when i end recording | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | paused? | 00:08 |
| Estel_ | yea, recording have option to pause, as per nicolai version | 00:08 |
| Estel_ | great thing, cosnidering scarce of video editing tools for N900 itself | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | Estel_: you'd better file a bug | 00:09 |
| SpeedEvil | Estel_: mencoder, dd, what more could you want? | 00:09 |
| Estel_ | freemangordon, the thing is that it hangs only when doing HD recording | 00:09 |
| Estel_ | on "Stock" vidoe resolutions, it finish normally | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | so? what stops you from filing a bug? | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | even when paused and resumed during recording | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | erm, where? | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | I though that Hd was Your addition, so it doesn't fill for CSSU. Or does? | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | it does | 00:10 |
| Estel_ | ok, sure thing. I'll fill it | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | thanks for investigating | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | if it is distributed with CSSU, then it is CSSU bug | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | one last question, cause I'm lost | 00:11 |
| Estel_ | ages ago, you've mentione,d in HD recording thread, that harm version of something - dsp driver or something like that - is worse than last one used | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | zeq: that is this HD_COMP_MGR_TOP_MARGIN I was talking for | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | then, I lost orientation - are we using fixed version, or fixes is in cssu-thumb, or most recent one is first post of hd recording thread? | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | Estel_: sorry gtg | 00:12 |
| Estel_ | np. | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | bb | 00:12 |
| zeq | freemangordon: isn't that the same thing? | 00:13 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I really hate iOS's new(ish) group chat shit | 00:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Through MMS. | 00:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | You have to try to thread each message together manually. | 01:00 |
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| RST38h | MEANWHILE: Apparently, two thirds of Americans polled think that Barrack Obama is better suited to defend against an alien invasion than Mitt Romney, according to a survey from National Geographic Channel | 02:55 |
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| merlin1991 | srly, maemo is full of trolls http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1228419&postcount=2 | 04:41 |
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| Estel_ | merlin1991, he is jsut noob, not troll. Haven't seen trolling from his side, although, his "advices" are irritating, I agree | 05:17 |
| Estel_ | well, after all, he at least have good wishes :P | 05:18 |
| Estel_ | if You ask me, i preffer him,with all the pain, voer some "old time" trolls, like we have seen in last 2 weeks | 05:18 |
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| Chewtoy | Anyone know where you can get a replacement for the n810 screen? Mine is loosing it's touch capabililty it seems. :/ | 07:57 |
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| vi____ | ~Information is not Knowledge | 11:05 |
| infobot | vi____: okay | 11:05 |
| vi____ | ~Knowledge is not Wisdom | 11:05 |
| infobot | ...but knowledge is already something else... | 11:05 |
| vi____ | ~Wisdom is not Truth | 11:05 |
| infobot | ...but wisdom is already something else... | 11:05 |
| vi____ | ~Truth is not Beauty | 11:05 |
| infobot | ...but truth is already something else... | 11:05 |
| vi____ | ~Beauty is not Love | 11:05 |
| infobot | ...but beauty is already something else... | 11:05 |
| vi____ | ~Beauty is a French phonetic corruption of a short, cloth, neck ornament.currently in resurgence. | 11:06 |
| infobot | ...but beauty is already something else... | 11:06 |
| vi____ | ~Love is not Music | 11:06 |
| infobot | If you love is not Music so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) | 11:06 |
| vi____ | ~Music is THE BEST | 11:06 |
| infobot | ...but music is already something else... | 11:06 |
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| StyXman | wtf? | 11:19 |
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| chem|st | ~forget Information | 11:32 |
| infobot | i forgot information, chem|st | 11:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | vi____: stop abusing infobot! | 11:41 |
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| vi____ | DocScrutinizer51: I was just injecting a little culture into this heathen channel! | 12:24 |
| vi____ | freemangordon: This is what I was talking about some weeks ago when you were discussing adblock. | 12:30 |
| vi____ | http://sfxpt.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-best-ad-blocking-method/ | 12:30 |
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| teotwaki | so, instead of having the browser do a tiny bit more work | 12:46 |
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| teotwaki | you get the browser to still do all the requests | 12:46 |
| teotwaki | and instead, have another process, that does the matching | 12:46 |
| teotwaki | and if need be, send over a 1x1 gif image | 12:47 |
| teotwaki | That's just fucking stupid. | 12:47 |
| teotwaki | The same amount of CPU time is still being spent on the same stuff | 12:47 |
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| teotwaki | And here's a hint: blocking ads isn't about the CPU time being consumed, it's about the network exchanges -- so, if instead of the ad servers being slow, it's your fake-ad-hosting server that's slow, your browsing experience is still shit. | 12:48 |
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| vi____ | I think a dedicated 1 pixel local server would be pretty fucking fast. | 12:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vi____: nothing wrong with culture :-) But please consider infobot factoid database like a wiki wikiwiki, you wouldn't insert a songtext to wikipedia by one line per page either, with first word of line as page topic | 12:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~information is <reply> Information is not Knowledge \\ Knowledge is not Wisdom \\ Wisdom is not Truth \\ Truth is not Beauty \\ Beauty is not Love \\ Beauty is a French phonetic corruption of a short, cloth, neck ornament.currently in resurgence. \\ Love is not Music \\ Music is THE BEST | 12:59 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 12:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~information | 12:59 |
| infobot | Information is not Knowledge \ Knowledge is not Wisdom \ Wisdom is not Truth \ Truth is not Beauty \ Beauty is not Love \ Beauty is a French phonetic corruption of a short, cloth, neck ornament.currently in resurgence. \ Love is not Music \ Music is THE BEST | 12:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and I always thought that's the definition of Aegis, not beauty | 13:02 |
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| StyXman | vi____: nice page | 13:04 |
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| zeq | Fennec is the first c++ project I've worked on, I'm not sure if I'm struggling to understand because I'm not yet fully up on the lanaguage or it's just complex as hell... | 13:10 |
| freemangordon | zeq: both :P | 13:11 |
| zeq | freemangordon: yeah, probably :) | 13:11 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: is it newest fennec or you optimize the old one? | 13:12 |
| zeq | I've always seemed to gravitate towards lower level lanaguages. I probably felt most comfortable coding in ARM assembler way back in the early '90's! | 13:13 |
| zeq | ZogG_lap1op: It's the current version. freemangordon and I are attempting to port the Qt/XUL version to Maemo5. | 13:14 |
| freemangordon | zeq: there were no good compilers back then, the only way to achieve performance was asm | 13:15 |
| zeq | ZogG_lap1op: It's mostly going well, but the resizing of widgets on rotation is ... confusing | 13:15 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: current is the new that hit android with nice tabs and all, just wwant to be sure | 13:15 |
| freemangordon | zeq: btw it seems we're not using GL acceleration | 13:15 |
| zeq | freemangordon: still seems pretty quick though :) | 13:15 |
| freemangordon | ZogG_lap1op: exactly the same, it is v16a1 | 13:16 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: if you succeed than port it to n9 as well =P | 13:16 |
| zeq | ZogG_lap1op: it should be available for the N9...? | 13:16 |
| freemangordon | zeq: I enabled QGLWidget, but unfortunately all I see is flicker | 13:16 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: the last one is not | 13:17 |
| zeq | freemangordon: I actually saw flicker on the www.bbc.co.uk, not sure why | 13:17 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uKqyxhEUrBg - that one | 13:18 |
| zeq | Is there not a current Fennec build for the N9? | 13:18 |
| freemangordon | zeq: by saying flicker, I mean a black screnn, which shows something only when scrolling, but unce you stop, it becomes black again :D | 13:19 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: i think there is one before that, and last update fails to update for some reason(i think aegis related) | 13:19 |
| zeq | freemangordon: no it wasn't that bad. just flickered while scrolling | 13:19 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it's 13 as if i remember right | 13:20 |
| zeq | ZogG_lap1op: my flash is broken here on my laptop, not got around to fixing it yet | 13:20 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: what distro? | 13:20 |
| zeq | Gentoo :) | 13:20 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: funtoo here, need help? | 13:20 |
| vi____ | ~gentoo | 13:21 |
| zeq | nah, I'm okay, my Gentoo-fu is strong :P | 13:21 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | gentoo is source based and the most logical and awesome distro by drobbins | 13:21 |
| freemangordon | vi____: seems infobot got tired :) | 13:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: than move to funtoo | 13:22 |
| zeq | ZogG_lap1op: I was the crazy person behind the idea of having automatic multilib support on Gentoo... | 13:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | seems it deosn't know what is gentoo | 13:22 |
| zeq | I don't know if you heard about that...? | 13:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | not really | 13:22 |
| ZogG_lap1op | but there are few people runing gentoo on n8x0 and on n900 | 13:23 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i always got confused with their nicks. | 13:23 |
| zeq | OT here, but breifly: Gentoo uses binary version of libs for support of x86 on amd64, my solution was to build x86 versions of the libs (or any other ABI, say armhf support on armel ;) ) | 13:24 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it's slonopotamus and i think luke-jr and maybe some other people | 13:24 |
| zeq | with a special eclass, or built into portage | 13:24 |
| zeq | We actually implemented both | 13:25 |
| vi____ | debian>gentoo | 13:26 |
| zeq | lots of resistance from "those above" | 13:26 |
| zeq | anyway... | 13:27 |
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| zeq | ZogG_lap1op: those running Gentoo on the nxx0 use a chroot? | 13:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: as i understand drobbins left because of politics and that they did't want him back, that's why funtoo is way more friendlyy | 13:28 |
| zeq | I actually ported Gentoo to the Sharp Zaurus ;) | 13:28 |
| zeq | I think I had the first full ARM EABI distro | 13:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: i don't think so | 13:29 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: when exactly u ported? | 13:29 |
| zeq | 2006 | 13:29 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | as far as i know it was some russian guy running gentoo on ppc's from hp with win5 =) | 13:30 |
| zeq | I think I had the first full *ARM EABI* distro | 13:30 |
| ZogG_lap1op | maybe, maybe not | 13:30 |
| zeq | anyway, this is pretty OT | 13:31 |
| ZogG_lap1op | yeah =) | 13:32 |
| zeq | freemangordon: did you make any progress getting your head around screensize->QRect | 13:33 |
| freemangordon | damn it, no :( | 13:33 |
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| zeq | realitygaps: I noticed something weird | 13:34 |
| zeq | sorry wrong completion! :S | 13:34 |
| zeq | freemangordon: I noticed something weird | 13:34 |
| zeq | when using available* it actually resizes to to full screen initially | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | but what buggers things is resize(screenGeometry.size()); | 13:35 |
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| zeq | it then gets resized again | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | not the other function | 13:35 |
| zeq | could that be related to what I saw ^ ? | 13:35 |
| zeq | also putting in a Fullscreen request on the top-level widget as I mentioned last night gets it very confused about screen geometry and is "messed up" until rotation | 13:37 |
| zeq | widgets all over the place | 13:37 |
| freemangordon | zeq: i suspect initially it is run in fullscreen | 13:37 |
| freemangordon | yep | 13:37 |
| zeq | it was worth a try though :) | 13:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~gentoo | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys gentoo | 13:38 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'gentoo' by key (9): use gentoo ;; gentoo zelot ;; cmd: gentoosmite (.*?) ;; gentoo (http://www.gentoo.org) ;; cmd: gentoo (.*?) ;; gentoo-tc ;; start a gentoo war #DEL# ;; gentoo #DEL# ;; be gentoo barbie. | 13:38 |
| zeq | could it be nsWindow::ConstrainPosition changing things after the initial resize? | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~gentoo freemangordon | 13:38 |
| * infobot recompiles freemangordon again | 13:38 | |
| freemangordon | :D | 13:39 |
| freemangordon | zeq: see nsWindow::SetSizeMode(PRInt32 aMode) | 13:39 |
| ZogG_lap1op | lol | 13:39 |
| vi____ | ~gentoosmite DocScrutinizer05 | 13:39 |
| * infobot spends 6 days recompiling DocScrutinizer05, and when it's all done, DocScrutinizer05 runs 2% slower than previously | 13:39 | |
| freemangordon | it could be that we start in fullscreen, but because of the rotation either showMaximised or showNormal is called, screwing up the sizing | 13:40 |
| freemangordon | zeq: ^^^ | 13:40 |
| zeq | yeah | 13:40 |
| zeq | do we need to set nsSizeMode_Fullscreen? | 13:41 |
| freemangordon | zeq: where? | 13:41 |
| freemangordon | (most probably yes) | 13:41 |
| zeq | in SetSizeMode it's in aMode | 13:41 |
| zeq | need to look at what's calling it | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please don't implement a fake statusbar like e.g. in maps | 13:42 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but who calls it, that code is like spaghetti | 13:42 |
| zeq | DocScrutinizer05: do you mean title-bar? | 13:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maps (and canola) are basically fubar regarding this statusbar thing | 13:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: invoke maps, you'll find the statusbar (with signal, battery, whatnot icon, some missing(!)) is complete fake | 13:44 |
| zeq | Fennec already does this, the only way around it would be true native port rather than getting XUL port working | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maps working in fullscreen and just emulates the statusbar | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | zeq: you mean to always set aMode to fullscreen? | 13:44 |
| zeq | DocScrutinizer05: yes, unfortunately this is the case | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-S | 13:44 |
| zeq | freemangordon: yes | 13:44 |
| zeq | freemangordon: we don't support anything else anyway | 13:45 |
| freemangordon | but that should be the case for top-level widgets only, I have NFC for which widget setsizemode is called | 13:45 |
| freemangordon | if it is a child that will screw everything | 13:46 |
| zeq | the only caller in nsWindow.cpp is nsWindow::Move | 13:46 |
| zeq | there it sets Mode_Normal if mIsTopLevel | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | what? could be that :) | 13:46 |
| zeq | it seems a strange function to be called though | 13:46 |
| zeq | could be | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: couldn't fennec just use (size_of_screen - statusbar_size) [the magic 58 pixel iirc] and let hildon care about statusbar? | 13:47 |
| zeq | hack it to use Fullscreen instead for MAEMO=5 | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui H-D will care to composite in the statusbar | 13:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when the app isn't in fullscreen_mode | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | 56 | 13:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or 56 | 13:48 |
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| zeq | DocScrutinizer05: unfortunately the XUL mobile app would look really weird like tha | 13:49 |
| zeq | that* | 13:49 |
| freemangordon | zeq: done, compiling | 13:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: why? | 13:49 |
| zeq | DocScrutinizer05: because it would have 2x close and 2x dashboard icons | 13:50 |
| freemangordon | :D:D:D | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe you could just #ifdef out those surplus things from fennec? | 13:50 |
| ShadowJK | DocScrutinizer05; had a note from mailman yesterday. Attempted deliver of registered letter failed, pick up from post office. haven't been able to do that yet though | 13:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: yeah, sorry for that | 13:51 |
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| zeq | DocScrutinizer05: *sigh* ... can we just get it working first? :P | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: but your story about busdriver and gas staion lady scared me a bit ;-) | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: sure | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: just suggesting | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: you're the developer | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: just thought it's kinda on topic with what you just discussed | 13:52 |
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| zeq | The right way to do what you're suggesting would be a native port, the same as is done for Android. At that point you're pretty much re-implemeting microb... | 13:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think it's soooo much complication coming with just kicking out the fake statusbar and allowing fennec to run in non fulscreen-mode | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but as mentioned above, you are the devel | 13:54 |
| zeq | DocScrutinizer05: we'd need to implement a new URL/tab system too | 13:55 |
| zeq | the UI is tightly integrated | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah, it's on same line? | 13:55 |
| Hurrian | freemangordon: ping | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I think I see your point | 13:56 |
| freemangordon | Hurrian: pong | 13:56 |
| zeq | it's certainly doable; by not using XUL at all, and re-implenting the functionality H-D style (like MicroB), but that's a huge undertaking... would be pretty straightfoward though if we had access to the MicroB sources.... | 13:57 |
| Hurrian | freemangordon: is it alright to upgrade to cssu-thumb from cssu-testing? | 13:57 |
| qwazix | fennec on harmattan doesn't have either close nor dashboard, isn't on that your basing your work? | 13:57 |
| Lava_Croft | Hurrian: no | 13:57 |
| Lava_Croft | Hurrian: as always with CSSU, reflash is required | 13:57 |
| freemangordon | Hurrian: it is OK | 13:57 |
| Hurrian | cool. | 13:58 |
| freemangordon | CSSU-thumb installs CSSU-T repo too | 13:58 |
| zeq | qwazix: not used fennec on harmattan, can you desribe it, bear in mind we're talking about 16a1 | 13:58 |
| Lava_Croft | oh lol | 13:58 |
| qwazix | zeq: http://funzfever.com/wp-content/uploads/fennec_n9_140811-570x495-570x494.jpg | 13:59 |
| zeq | qwazix: interesting | 13:59 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: have you seen ^ | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | qwazix: the same, excuding branding | 14:00 |
| Lava_Croft | fennec on n9 is a bit weird with the Swipe ui | 14:00 |
| qwazix | At first, there wasn't even a back button in the url screen see http://my-meego.com/grafika/fennec.jpg. The back arrow on the right was missing | 14:00 |
| zeq | that's an issue ;) | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | zeq: Harmattan swipe screws up swipe functionality :D | 14:00 |
| Lava_Croft | not entirely | 14:00 |
| Lava_Croft | but you have to keep more to the center to use fennec's swipe UI | 14:01 |
| qwazix | so a diff with harmattan fennec source could show how you can get rid of those controls | 14:01 |
| Lava_Croft | it takes a bit to get used to, its not exactly elegant | 14:01 |
| zeq | qwazix: it's the same source | 14:01 |
| Lava_Croft | but it works | 14:01 |
| zeq | qwazix: the difference is Harm uses MEEGOTOUCH | 14:01 |
| zeq | there are #ifdefs throughout the code | 14:02 |
| qwazix | that means that there is a conditional somewhere who decides to show back and dashboard buttons | 14:02 |
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| qwazix | according to platform | 14:02 |
| qwazix | if you decide you want h-d top bar you could nullify those code blocks | 14:02 |
| zeq | yes, that does seem to be the case. | 14:02 |
| zeq | freemangordon: what do you think? | 14:03 |
| freemangordon | qwazix: that wouldn't be so simplem because of the address bar | 14:03 |
| qwazix | freemangordon: I'm not sure I understand | 14:03 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, it night work if we get rid of teskbar and close buttons only | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | *taskbar | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | leaving address field intact | 14:05 |
| freemangordon | s/address/url/ | 14:05 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: leaving url field intact | 14:05 |
| zeq | freemangordon: would we then just need to start "minimized" | 14:05 |
| freemangordon | no, we have to start normal | 14:05 |
| zeq | ok | 14:05 |
| zeq | that should leave the H-D bar in place? | 14:06 |
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| freemangordon | yep | 14:06 |
| qwazix | yes that's what I meant, and that's what the "default" behavior of fennec is (assuming android is 'default' fennec distro) | 14:07 |
| zeq | Fennec seem to have different layouts for different modes | 14:07 |
| zeq | Android is a special case | 14:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | qwazix: why would fremantle top/status-bar replace or substituate back and dashboard buttons? | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | zeq: i've changed it, now we will see if fullscreen theory is correct. if we go fullscreen on rotation, this is it. | 14:09 |
| zeq | build complete? | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | no, still running | 14:10 |
| qwazix | zeq: ok, maemo was the first one IIRC so that might be the 'default' behavior, DocScrutinizer05: we are talking about maemo dashboard, and close button, not navigation controls within the browser | 14:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the point about fake statusbar in maps is: it needs to implement stuff in maps that genuinely is done by H-D, like invoking dahsboard | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | i stopped it to change mGraphicsView->showFullScreen(); to mGraphicsView->showNormal(); in nsFastStartup.cpp | 14:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on HARM you got no such thing like a dashboard button | 14:11 |
| zeq | freemangordon: ok good test :) | 14:12 |
| qwazix | DocScrutinizer05: yes, neither close button | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on HARM you also usually don't have a close button upper right | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on fremantle however both are kinda mandatory | 14:12 |
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| qwazix | yes and they'll be provided by hildon desktop | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: - but only if you don't run the app in fullscreen mode | 14:13 |
| zeq | with a fullscreen exit button bottom righ | 14:13 |
| zeq | right* | 14:13 |
| freemangordon | but you anyway don;t need them when in fullscreen | 14:13 |
| qwazix | true, and this is more consistent with M5 gui guidelines | 14:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is what maps does (and canola?) - and maps emulates the whole stus/menu-bar while canola you are kinda screwed | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | qwazix: :nod:. actually zeq wants that implemented, it was me to agrue :D | 14:15 |
| freemangordon | not anymore | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc you got exactly two options in canola: exit the app, or use hw-kbd ctrl-backspace | 14:16 |
| vi____ | xbindkeys ctrl+space for fullscreen is on of the most usefull shortcuts. | 14:16 |
| vi____ | ^on/one | 14:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | not quite in line with usual keybindings, which seem to be: ctrl-enter for toggling fullscreen mode | 14:17 |
| qwazix | vi____: english native speaker? | 14:17 |
| vi_ | ..yes. | 14:17 |
| vi_ | why? | 14:17 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: is not horny anymore? where are all the rest ___ | 14:17 |
| qwazix | ctrl+space switches languages on the N900 :D | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | :D | 14:18 |
| vi_ | orly? | 14:18 |
| freemangordon | rly | 14:18 |
| vi_ | How would I know what language I am on. | 14:18 |
| vi_ | ? | 14:18 |
| qwazix | type something... | 14:18 |
| vi_ | When you say language do you mean keymap? | 14:18 |
| qwazix | yep | 14:18 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: there is applet for that, but you can't see it on fullscreen app i think | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xchat toggles fs-mode by ctrl-enter | 14:18 |
| vi_ | well Il be. | 14:19 |
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| freemangordon | zeq: linking libxul | 14:19 |
| vi_ | That perhaps explains why SOMETIMES (like twice) my keyboard has gone batshit insane and none of my keys work as they should. | 14:19 |
| vi_ | ZogG_lap1op: appletts are gay. | 14:19 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: i got an email btw it's n950 =P | 14:19 |
| vi_ | It is all about the xterm. | 14:20 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: you say it like it's something bad =P | 14:20 |
| vi_ | It is okay, I meant gay in the pejorative sense. | 14:20 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: than use tmux and write script for indification of language. you can add it to your promt in bash i think too | 14:20 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: there is russian joke to answer to negative things "you say it like it's bad" | 14:21 |
| * zeq is going to grab some lunch | 14:22 | |
| Lava_Croft | i think i didnt saw some hick talk about how things are 'gay' | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | naw, i didnt | 14:23 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: bon appetite | 14:23 |
| zeq | then I really need to go buy some coffee... ran out yesterday! | 14:23 |
| ZogG_lap1op | zeq: i want to switch to tea only, the chinise tea and learn all the tradition they do it and serve it | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | tea is for the different occasion than coffee | 14:24 |
| vi_ | ZogG_lap1op: that seems like a really motivation to become a tea drinker. | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | tha/a | 14:24 |
| Lava_Croft | waking up with tea makes you start the day all mellow | 14:24 |
| leochencipher | try green tea first and never ever add sugar | 14:24 |
| ZogG_lap1op | anyway i need to go to make my volunteer hours in volunteer organization that helps people... so shower and bike ride =) | 14:24 |
| freemangordon | ZogG_lap1op: on the side note: don't you think it is fair to post a link to the chat that happened on IRC, instead of interpreting it? | 14:25 |
| freemangordon | That way everyine can draw his own conclusions, agree? | 14:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: you are free to do it. Estel_ said he would do it. | 14:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: i just don't feel posting the log everytime and i think i actually posted link to some chat already | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | ZogG_lap1op: vi_ can confirm I am free to say/do whatever I want, but that is not the point. | 14:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: agreed, but after i saw the way he answers the Jaffa on maillist i don't agree it's a language problem =\ | 14:26 |
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| freemangordon | my point is still valid, I don't think it is fair to interpret a logged IRC chat | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | just post the link to it | 14:27 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: i posted the link earlier actually | 14:28 |
| vi_ | Everyone is free to say/do whatever they want. It is the consequances that are the problem. | 14:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: that's exactly the point | 14:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | if you actually maybe said reasoable thing, i think he took it as exuse other wise jokes like "how do i say it now" or "slav mod" wouldn't be there | 14:29 |
| ZogG_lap1op | but i'll add the link | 14:29 |
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| vi_ | what the f'ing f. | 14:30 |
| vi_ | Nokia developer does not accept my user name and password. | 14:30 |
| vi_ | It will not even send me the 'forgot password' email. | 14:31 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: go to ovi and log in they have now the single account thing AFAIK | 14:31 |
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| vi_ | none fo this horseshit works. | 14:32 |
| vi_ | Ok. This fubar. | 14:34 |
| vi_ | I have got it to recognise my username but it is filled out with someone elses details. | 14:34 |
| vi_ | WTF. | 14:35 |
| freemangordon | vi_: they are migrating DB it seems | 14:36 |
| zeq | freemangordon: maybe I shouldn't have tried turning on OGL widgets at the same time ;) | 14:36 |
| zeq | vblank issue? | 14:36 |
| vi_ | Then how come my account is now populated with someones else address? and telphone number. | 14:37 |
| vi_ | WHERE THE F IS MY N950 BEING SENT TOO?? | 14:37 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: did you get mail? | 14:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 14:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vi_: contact nokia care *immediately* | 14:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | provide screenshots | 14:38 |
| Lava_Croft | oh my vi_ | 14:38 |
| Lava_Croft | listen to DocScrutinizer05 | 14:38 |
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| zeq | Someone hacked the account??? | 14:38 |
| vi_ | papa new guinea?? | 14:39 |
| Lava_Croft | what? | 14:39 |
| zeq | wow | 14:39 |
| Lava_Croft | lol | 14:39 |
| zeq | people really want N950s! | 14:39 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: not all people got mails yet | 14:39 |
| zeq | vi_: get on the phone to them | 14:40 |
| chem|st | vi_: I'm checking my account just now... | 14:40 |
| freemangordon | I still don't have mail | 14:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: oh you have wrong address, you should check before | 14:41 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: i can give the mail of person who send me the mail from nokia to ask him | 14:41 |
| freemangordon | but just been able to connect my nokia account with my developer one | 14:41 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: do you want? | 14:41 |
| vi_ | please | 14:41 |
| * vi_ phoneing now | 14:41 | |
| * vi_ DOES NOT WANT TO KNOW ABOT THE F'ING LUMIA800 | 14:42 | |
| ZogG_lap1op | lol | 14:42 |
| chem|st | hehe, successfully linked accounts and my details seem to be the same | 14:43 |
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| freemangordon | my city was missing :( | 14:43 |
| freemangordon | nearest city. WTF? | 14:44 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: as you speak yes city is missing | 14:44 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: do you have a mailf from nokia? | 14:44 |
| vi_ | ZogG_lap1op: what did the mail say? | 14:44 |
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| vi_ | did it say the device had been shipped? | 14:45 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: it was forward from DHL, and than i mailed him to ask if it's n9 or n950 and he answered it's n950 than it's person and not a bot | 14:46 |
| chem|st | about the merge yes about my device no | 14:46 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: use the address line to write your city | 14:47 |
| Hurrian | hmm, haven't got my DHL mail yet | 14:47 |
| Hurrian | should I be linking the nokia accounts? | 14:47 |
| freemangordon | ZogG_lap1op: by what logic when there is a field for a city? | 14:48 |
| chem|st | Hurrian: yes, and look if your details are right in there | 14:48 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: I added it up in nearest city AND addline2 | 14:48 |
| * vi_ approaches problem like a boss. | 14:48 | |
| ZogG_lap1op | Hurrian: just check the developer account and if you have address and data there, as well if in setting you don't have developer account thing, you may tell it to qguil | 14:48 |
| vi_ | called customer support, got through to some backwater shit hole call centre. This is pointless. | 14:49 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: hmm, okm but what about country then | 14:49 |
| vi_ | Remembered I have a dirrect number for UK escalations. | 14:49 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: the logic is you want to get device or not =) | 14:49 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: location? | 14:49 |
| Hurrian | I just noticed that Nokia says "user@example.com" when you're supposed to use your old developer name. | 14:49 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: use the mail i gave you or qguil mail | 14:49 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Hurrian: maybe it's single account migration thing | 14:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | ok i'm late | 14:50 |
| chem|st | Hurrian: lol I just used the username and password from before | 14:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | gonna go | 14:50 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: i think both work | 14:50 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: yes, there is location and city. if I add city to address, then I should add country too. | 14:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: use the mail i gave you | 14:50 |
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| chem|st | freemangordon: ah that you mean, no that is by location but nearest city is something I do not call an address field... postal code may include countrycode but that is obsolete iirc | 14:51 |
| freemangordon | well, I added it to address line 1 | 14:52 |
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| chem|st | Estel_: Woody14619 ping | 14:52 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: btw check hte city with first letters, as mine had "'" in the name =) | 14:52 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: so i thought it's not there at first | 14:52 |
| chem|st | would you guys mind to get in touch with quim about this account merging disaster?! | 14:52 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: the fastest thing to post on TMO i think or send him mail directly | 14:53 |
| zeq | freemangordon: could it be trying to use gles1? http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/qt_with_opengl_es_1-1_on_maemo-_n900/ | 14:53 |
| freemangordon | ZogG_lap1op: I didn't understand what you mean | 14:54 |
| freemangordon | zeq: it draws, but is overwritten with black | 14:55 |
| vi_ | Does anyone have an email address for qgil? | 14:55 |
| freemangordon | don;t think it is the same | 14:55 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: in nearest city thing i looked for my city as Givataim and didn;t find it there, after i typed giv only and found it was giv'ataim or something like that. it might be speelled wrong there | 14:55 |
| vi_ | ~seen qgil | 14:56 |
| freemangordon | ZogG_lap1op: I don't have a list here, have to type it by hand | 14:56 |
| infobot | qgil <c0646a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.100.106.40> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 274d 13h 9m 53s ago, saying: 'ok, time to leave and join the Qt chapter - Siicon Valley. See you around!'. | 14:56 |
| ZogG_lap1op | vi_: quim.gil (at) the company he works (dot) com AFAIK | 14:56 |
| ZogG_lap1op | freemangordon: it autocompete | 14:56 |
| ZogG_lap1op | ok i need to go | 14:57 |
| iDont | Just read the chanlog, I haven't got an email from DHL either, though my address details are correct | 14:58 |
| freemangordon | anyone got email? | 14:58 |
| iDont | "Nearest City" was empty though, after linking accounts | 14:58 |
| freemangordon | yeah, same here | 14:59 |
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| iDont | well, qgil has stated that the devices will be shipped by the end of this week | 15:01 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: how did the build go? | 15:02 |
| iDont | so I suppose I'll be waiting a few more days for the e-mail from DHL to arrive :) | 15:02 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: I tried something similar. It almost works with screenGeometry now. Although, maybe we just didn't notice this before, but the side widgets are resized correctly to the screen, it's just the page view that isn't getting resized. | 15:06 |
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| Hurrian | whelp, it seems like the SSO tried my old account before the new one, even if I did type it in lowercase. | 15:06 |
| zeq | (I changed showFullScreen() to showNormal() in nsFastStartupQt.cpp | 15:07 |
| zeq | ) | 15:07 |
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| Hurrian | both accounts point to the same email, so it shouldn't be a problem, but ugh. | 15:07 |
| vi_ | I do not mind waiting, I just don't want it to go to some SHIT EATING SCAMMER in papa new guinea. | 15:07 |
| zeq | freemangordon: I'm off out now, I'll be back later. | 15:07 |
| Jaffa | ZogG_lap1op: Did you mean andre rather than Jaffa? Not sure I've posted to the ML recently | 15:08 |
| iDont | vi_, maybe your account got linked to someone else's as well, like Hurrian's account? | 15:08 |
| vi_ | iDont: that sounds likely | 15:09 |
| vi_ | but who would blindly merge two databases? | 15:09 |
| vi_ | what if two users have the same user name? | 15:09 |
| Hurrian | vi_, Nokia. | 15:09 |
| vi_ | -_- | 15:09 |
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| iDont | indeed, this shouldn't happen | 15:10 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Jaffa: true, second time i got you mixed =\ | 15:10 |
| Hurrian | well, uhh, since qgil said they wont be leaving before the end of the week, shouldn't someone ask qgil to double-check before any real fubar happens? | 15:10 |
| vi_ | Hurrian: Something fubar HAS happened. | 15:11 |
| Hurrian | well, before the postage stamps get put on and it heads out of dhl. | 15:12 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | Hurrian: add to your post about other cases and people like vi_ so he would look globally | 15:12 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and that everyone would check their addresses | 15:12 |
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| Hurrian | ...and added. | 15:13 |
| Hurrian | side note, anybody got their DHL mails for CA devices yet? | 15:17 |
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| freemangordon_ | seems noone :-) | 15:18 |
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| Hurrian | that's good. i'll be out in a few, but someone needs to get qgil to see the thread/get an email about it. | 15:19 |
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| iDont | I've added my city to the first address line as well, "Nearest City" doesn't sound quite right | 15:27 |
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| iDont | freemangordon, Estel suggested me to approach you about inclusion of bb-power's thumb build in the thumb repo | 15:31 |
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| iDont | however, AFAICS there is only community-thumb, which is used for CSSU-thumb and not regular packages | 15:31 |
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| vi_ | qgil now knows. | 15:33 |
| vi_ | phew. | 15:34 |
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| vi_ | iDont: you are using thumb? | 15:39 |
| iDont | vi_, yes | 15:39 |
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| iDont | it shrinks the binary size quite a bit :) | 15:40 |
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| vi_ | are you seeing a reduction in memory footprint on a freshly booted system? | 15:42 |
| vi_ | If so could you hazard a guess as to how much? | 15:42 |
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| iDont | I haven't really checked, but I assume there is | 15:43 |
| iDont | I took freemangordon's word on it in the thumb thread ;) | 15:44 |
| vi_ | ! | 15:45 |
| iDont | ? | 15:45 |
| iDont | anyway, it's saving some rootfs space, that's for sure | 15:46 |
| freemangordon | iDont: there should be no problem to put BB in the same repo | 15:48 |
| freemangordon | it will just sit there, no mp-thingie will depend on it | 15:48 |
| iDont | freemangordon, that is great :). Are there any objections to inclusion? | 15:49 |
| vi_ | I object... | 15:50 |
| vi_ | ...you did not do it sooner. | 15:50 |
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| iDont | vi_, I'll try harder next time ;) | 15:52 |
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| freemangordon | iDont: you'd better post the question in thumb thread on TMO. BTW ist it me who is supposed to build it and upload it in the repo? | 15:53 |
| iDont | freemangordon, I'm not sure how the repository is currently managed, I was only pointed to you. If I can manage the package myself, then you don't have to do anything ofc | 15:55 |
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| freemangordon | iDont: it is managed with dput and ssh. you may asm merlin1991 for access. And you should use gcc >= 4.6.2 for compilation | 15:57 |
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| freemangordon | s/asm/ask/ | 15:57 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: iDont: it is managed with dput and ssh. you may ask merlin1991 for access. And you should use gcc >= 4.6.2 for compilation | 15:57 |
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| iDont | freemangordon, thanks, will do. The current thumb package is already build with GCC 4.6.2 | 15:58 |
| freemangordon | current package? which one | 15:58 |
| freemangordon | BB? | 15:59 |
| iDont | yes, I've got a thumb deb hosted on busybox-power's garage page | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 15:59 |
| iDont | sorry if I wasn't clear | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | np | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ping | 15:59 |
| merlin1991 | pong | 15:59 |
| iDont | merlin1991, I've just talked with freemangordon about inclusion of busybox-power in community-thumb | 16:00 |
| iDont | is it possible for me to get upload rights for the package? | 16:00 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: what is your policy re adding developers which are not a part of CSSU to your -devel and -thumb ACL | 16:00 |
| freemangordon | actually we've never discuss that | 16:01 |
| iDont | ah | 16:01 |
| freemangordon | iDont: yeah :) | 16:01 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: thumb is you baby, thus your policy (if you have one) applies, but I'd feel from comfortable if you *safeguard* the access in a sense that you upload the stuff | 16:01 |
| freemangordon | iDont: but I was tallking to merlin1991 | 16:01 |
| iDont | woops | 16:02 |
| merlin1991 | also I never took the time to properly set access rights for stuff on the server, thus I don't feel so good about giving a big amount of people access to it :D | 16:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: :nod: | 16:02 |
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| freemangordon | ok, agreed | 16:03 |
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| freemangordon | iDont: so, I need the package built with -sa -us -uc -I.git | 16:04 |
| freemangordon | also you have to add the correct dependencies in the control file, look at some of the thumb packages for an example | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | I mean the dependency to kernel-errata-workaround | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | also you should add -thumbN (where N is the thumb version) in debian/changelog | 16:05 |
| iDont | freemangordon, thanks, I'll do that. I'll also have to change the debian version so thumb if preffered over the reglar package | 16:06 |
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| iDont | okay | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | iDont: if you have c++ code, thean a dependency to libstdc++ thumb version is olso needed | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | *also | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | ok | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | ? | 16:07 |
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| iDont | there is no c++ code. I will do everything you said re dependencies and version string | 16:07 |
| freemangordon | ok | 16:07 |
| freemangordon | iDont: you may alwasy use thumb-testing branch in CSSU repo on gitorious for a reference | 16:08 |
| freemangordon | for packaging stuff, compiler switches, etc | 16:09 |
| iDont | will do, thanks for all the pointers, much appreciated | 16:09 |
| freemangordon | np :) | 16:09 |
| freemangordon | I am still wating you to join me and Pali :P | 16:10 |
| iDont | hehe :P. Well, at this moment it's more of a time issue, but I'm open for discussion. | 16:11 |
| iDont | are there any specific areas you guys are lacking a pair of hands? | 16:11 |
| freemangordon | what? | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | well, kernel and CSSU, nothing more | 16:12 |
| merlin1991 | but CSSU is a pretty big one ;) | 16:12 |
| iDont | yeah, I can imagine that :) | 16:13 |
| freemangordon | yeah, kernel is a little boy. but hey, we're feeding him dayly, so some day he will grow up. | 16:14 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: luf still mia? | 16:14 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: :D | 16:14 |
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| merlin1991 | yea | 16:15 |
| freemangordon | :( | 16:15 |
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| merlin1991 | I have no email, and tmo pm is disabled for him :D | 16:15 |
| freemangordon | dang | 16:15 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: isn't there e-mail connected with his TMO account? | 16:16 |
| merlin1991 | I think not visible, but I can check again | 16:16 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991, there is | 16:17 |
| merlin1991 | okay will send an email then | 16:18 |
| freemangordon | " * Send a message via email to luf" | 16:18 |
| freemangordon | ok | 16:18 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: while I was out buying coffee, I was having a think about the widget layout. The total height is determined by the sum of height of location widget and length of side widgets. The total width is dertermined by the width of the side panel (if open) plus the page view width. When rotating to portait the height of the widgets excluding page area is correctly calculated, page area doesn't change, so width is off | 16:21 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 16:22 |
| * freemangordon runs for coffee | 16:22 | |
| freemangordon | zeq: I still didn't do the experiment correctly, hopefully this time I will have the result | 16:24 |
| freemangordon | (ance the compilation completes) | 16:24 |
| zeq | ok. keep an eye on the side panel widgets | 16:25 |
| freemangordon | yeah, they are always correct | 16:25 |
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| zeq | I'll do some more thinking ;) | 16:27 |
| zeq | I'm sure if we can get our head around it, the solution will be simple. | 16:28 |
| freemangordon | ok | 16:29 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: I think we've been going about this the wrong way. I removed the orientationChanged notifier and it does exactly the same thing. (sometimes it works perfectly; usually the view area doesn't get resized) What we need to do on orientationChanged is get just force the page view to resize, maybe we need to calculate it, but given it occasionally works anyway, the code must be in there somewhere anyway. Back to mo | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | zeq: agree on that | 17:01 |
| zeq | freemangordon: I think it's more likely to work when a page is loading... | 17:03 |
| zeq | (just tried it) | 17:04 |
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| zeq | view area tends to get resized during page load | 17:04 |
| freemangordon | zeq: it could be a problem of graphicswidget/view itself, in one of my projects where i use qgraphicsview there is such code: | 17:05 |
| freemangordon | setViewportUpdateMode(QGraphicsView::BoundingRectViewportUpdate); | 17:05 |
| freemangordon | setCacheMode(QGraphicsView::CacheBackground); | 17:05 |
| freemangordon | setSizePolicy(QSizePolicy::Expanding, QSizePolicy::Expanding); | 17:06 |
| zeq | can you try that? | 17:06 |
| freemangordon | on which widget? | 17:06 |
| freemangordon | view? | 17:06 |
| zeq | which widget is the main content? | 17:06 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: I'm learning this as I go along ;) | 17:07 |
| trx | set that on QGraphicsWidget that's displaying the content | 17:08 |
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| freemangordon | the problem is how to identify it :D | 17:08 |
| trx | it will improve performance greatly | 17:08 |
| trx | also scrolling will be faster | 17:08 |
| zeq | trx: do you want to look at the code? | 17:08 |
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| trx | yes | 17:08 |
| freemangordon | trx: this is from the code i wrote, unfortunately almost 2 years ago | 17:09 |
| zeq | https://github.com/sjnewbury/fennec-qt-maemo5 | 17:09 |
| freemangordon | widget/qt/nsWindow.cpp | 17:09 |
| trx | i use setViewportUpdateMode(QGraphicsView::BoundingRectViewportUpdate); i believe in my code editor to gain speed | 17:09 |
| trx | and resolve drawing issues | 17:10 |
| luke-jr | zeq: Gentoo is bootable on both N8x0 and N900 | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | and widget/qt/mozqwidget.cpp | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | trx: ^^^ | 17:10 |
| trx | freemangordon will check, ty | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | ty | 17:10 |
| * zeq will be back later | 17:10 | |
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| vi_ | ~gentoosmite luke-jr | 17:13 |
| * infobot spends 6 weeks recompiling luke-jr, and when it's all done, luke-jr runs 3% slower than previously | 17:13 | |
| trx | freemangordon, i had another look at my code, setCacheMode(QGraphicsItem::ItemCoordinateCache) is the flag that greatly improved scrolling and fixed some drawing issues where chunks of text was invisible in my code editor | 17:18 |
| trx | now, to look at you code | 17:18 |
| trx | your* | 17:18 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:18 |
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| trx | freemangordon i would try and set on both of them | 17:24 |
| trx | nsWindow first | 17:24 |
| trx | also try to add setCacheMode(QGraphicsItem::ItemCoordinateCache) | 17:25 |
| trx | and see how it behaves with that cache flag | 17:25 |
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| trx | freemangordon oh, and let me know what happens please :) | 17:28 |
| freemangordon | trx: there is no problem with rendering, but with resizig | 17:30 |
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| freemangordon | QGraphicsScene/Widget or View have incorrect size screwing all of the layout | 17:31 |
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| trx | problems occured when resizing, thats why i suggested it | 17:32 |
| freemangordon | when rotated, yes | 17:33 |
| freemangordon | you mean setCacheMode(QGraphicsItem::ItemCoordinateCache) | 17:33 |
| trx | yes, that helped | 17:33 |
| trx | here it produces screwing of the layout? | 17:34 |
| freemangordon | ok. but it seems to me that view is never resized | 17:34 |
| trx | hmm | 17:34 |
| freemangordon | I don;t know if it follows scene view | 17:34 |
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| freemangordon | s/scene view/scene size/ | 17:36 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: I don;t know if it follows scene size | 17:36 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: we know view is resized when resize() is set to availableSize, or is it settSceneRect()? Anyhow, there is some logic that triggers resize somewhere... | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | resizeEvent? | 17:39 |
| trx | onResizeEvent gets the resize properly? | 17:39 |
| trx | (nsWindow - onResizeEvent) | 17:39 |
| trx | ? | 17:39 |
| zeq | there is the code I corrected to match the comment: | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | zeq: it is widget and scene to be resized, view is not resised in orientationChanged | 17:40 |
| zeq | synthesize a resize event if this isn't a toplevel | 17:40 |
| zeq | but it does get changed when I changed it to availableSize, but why? | 17:40 |
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| freemangordon | zeq: nsIntRect rect(mBounds.x, mBounds.y, aWidth, aHeight); ??? | 17:41 |
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| zeq | that's what I was thinking | 17:43 |
| zeq | this gives us the view widget, right? QWidget *widget = GetViewWidget(); | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | yep | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | but it should not be QWidget | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | but QGraphicsView | 17:45 |
| zeq | I grabbed that straight from nsWindow.cpp | 17:45 |
| zeq | I need to go again I'm afraid | 17:46 |
| zeq | busy today :( | 17:46 |
| freemangordon | ok, np | 17:46 |
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| trx | freemangordon what is the actual problem, resize on orientation change? | 17:50 |
| freemangordon | yep | 17:50 |
| trx | orientation changes but the size remains? | 17:50 |
| freemangordon | yes | 17:51 |
| freemangordon | but only for the view. though sometimes it works | 17:51 |
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| trx | damn, i cant open widget/qt/mozqwidget.cpp "blob taking too long to generate" | 17:57 |
| trx | can you pastebin it or something? | 17:57 |
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| freemangordon | http://pastebin.com/D9SxCRut | 17:59 |
| trx | ty | 17:59 |
| freemangordon | have in mind this is a working copy | 18:01 |
| trx | freemangordon can you access, the QGraphicsView->size() from orientationChanged and use that instead of QApplication::desktop()->screenGeometry() | 18:04 |
| freemangordon | yes | 18:04 |
| freemangordon | i think | 18:04 |
| trx | try that, QGraphicsView's values should be used i think when its used | 18:05 |
| trx | (as a view :) ) | 18:05 |
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| zeq | I'm trying using width and height from QGraphicsView->size() in NativeResize() | 18:19 |
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| trx | any results yet? | 18:27 |
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| freemangordon | trx: it takes 20 minutes for linker to complete | 18:29 |
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| trx | oh right | 18:30 |
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| freemangordon | anyway, i ran out of time, will have to take some sleep as I will have to work tonight | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | bb guys, wish you luck | 18:33 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: sleep well | 18:33 |
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| trx | bye\ | 18:35 |
| zeq | trx: if you want to clone the repo and join the effort, you're more than welcome :) | 18:36 |
| zeq | I'm trying to get up to speed on C++ and Qt as I go, so someone with more experience would be useful :) | 18:37 |
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| Vib3 | hi | 18:41 |
| Vib3 | trying to write img to memory card with n900, but now cant see mem card | 18:41 |
| Vib3 | is /dev/mmcblk1 mem card? | 18:42 |
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| zeq | Vib3: yes | 18:46 |
| zeq | Vib3: assuming you mean microSD | 18:46 |
| Vib3 | yea | 18:47 |
| Vib3 | mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk1 on /media/mmc1/ failed: Invalid argument | 18:48 |
| Vib3 | hmmm | 18:48 |
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| trx | zeq i know Qt but not C++, i use Qt with pascal, thats why i can suggest things to you | 18:48 |
| trx | i do know C++ too, but i am not an advanced user | 18:48 |
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| trx | anyway, let me know the results | 18:51 |
| trx | i must go now for a half hours | 18:52 |
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| zeq | trx: I'm asking romaxa for some more help... | 18:55 |
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| vi_ | Vib3: what are you trying to acheive? | 18:57 |
| Vib3 | to see whats on that mmc | 18:58 |
| vi_ | Vib3: so when you put sd card in it does not auto mount? | 18:58 |
| Vib3 | nope cos I tried to put img there, but it was corrupted | 18:59 |
| Vib3 | no trying again | 18:59 |
| Vib3 | *now | 18:59 |
| vi_ | Vib3: you are trying to install nitroid? | 18:59 |
| Vib3 | nope | 19:00 |
| vi_ | nemo? | 19:00 |
| vi_ | mer? | 19:00 |
| vi_ | meego? | 19:00 |
| Vib3 | just trying to put other img to mmc | 19:00 |
| vi_ | o0 | 19:00 |
| Vib3 | for my raspberry pi | 19:00 |
| vi_ | So you are using your n900 to dd a disk image to your memory card? | 19:00 |
| Vib3 | yea | 19:01 |
| Vib3 | now trying again | 19:01 |
| vi_ | why did you not open your question with that tiny nugget of info? | 19:01 |
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| vi_ | vibe what FS does the image use? | 19:02 |
| vi_ | What kernel are you running? | 19:02 |
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| Woody14619 | chem|st: delayed pong | 19:16 |
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| chem|st | Woody14619: was about nokia merging accounts and destroying their addressDB by that | 19:54 |
| chem|st | s/o emailed quim I think | 19:54 |
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| zeq | trx, freemangordon: Talked to romaxa. He had a look and now confirms the code should be in place to work, obviously something isn't getting triggered properly and suggested putting debugging printf's into the resize functions. | 19:58 |
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| zeq | trx, freemangordon: I hate it when this happens... debugging "fixed" it :/ | 20:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | zeq: hehe | 20:46 |
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| jean_brat | hi Guys. i assume many people might have experienced the charging issue with N900.. i have to keep the micro USB port of my charger at an angle and push it inside the N900 port to initiate charging.. and also many charger will not work.. i have 2 chargers N97 and n900.. both of em dont charge my phone.. a chinese charger can with this method.. | 20:48 |
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| jean_brat | have seen lot of blogs about this issue.. is there any one found an ideal solution for this issue? | 20:48 |
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| jean_brat | Hi DocScrutinizer | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | h | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hi | 20:49 |
| jean_brat | remember me .. had the booting issue after flashing N900.? | 20:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | hmmm | 20:50 |
| jean_brat | nokia service centre guys fixed it.. some problem with the board they said | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | takes some more hints | 20:50 |
| jean_brat | i was here 2 days continues .. and you helped me to flash | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | mech force on USB for charging clearly indicates an almost brolen USB receptacle | 20:51 |
| jean_brat | can it be replaced? | 20:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | well, sorry. That's what I do usually ;-D | 20:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | you should try to find some good electronics engineer to get it fixed before it brweaks completely | 20:52 |
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| jean_brat | are these micro usb is poorly designed? | 20:52 |
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| Woody14619 | chem|st: really? Hmm... Is that something that happened because of OBS (for LDAP) or just trying to consolidate down? | 20:53 |
| jean_brat | how..? do you get microusb ports which can be soldered in to the same board? | 20:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | you should solder the esisting one | 20:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | uless you find a good new part | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~usbfix | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~usbfix | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | povbot_: fhgdfhrjyugh | 20:57 |
| povbot_ | DocScrutinizer51: Error: "fhgdfhrjyugh" is not a valid command. | 20:57 |
| infobot | somebody said usbfix was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 20:57 |
| infobot | usbfix is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 20:57 |
| luke-jr | I bought a backup N900 | 20:57 |
| luke-jr | usbfix didn't turn out so nice :/ | 20:57 |
| luke-jr | it doesn't fit right in the case now | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | depends | 20:58 |
| zeq | DocScrutinizer51: I'm not that suprised debugging made it work, since it worked intermittently, that pointed to some kind of timing, racy type problem. | 20:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | the beloved race conditions | 21:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | usually never get fixed for goos, as it's too easy to make then vanish 'usually' | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/oos/ood/ | 21:02 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: usually never get fixed for good, as it's too easy to make then vanish 'usually' | 21:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so if you can actually trace down one, you should appreciate the opportunity | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exploiting ETM might help | 21:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though that's still a *very* immature project of mine, for N900 | 21:04 |
| zeq | it seems an event is being triggered multiple times, and the code checks for a difference between current and last to determine whether it needs to resize the widget | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | haha | 21:04 |
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| zeq | so if it depends whether it checks between to identical repeats of the event or the before and after the actual change | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | always nice for not-reentrant code pitfalls | 21:05 |
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| zeq | s/to/two/ | 21:05 |
| infobot | zeq meant: so if it depends whether it checks between two identical repeats of the event or the before and after the actual change | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even seen an irq speeding over his elder brother? ;-P | 21:06 |
| zeq | it's just like that | 21:06 |
| zeq | I think it gets called for every widget | 21:06 |
| zeq | (my suspicion) | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, not consider multithreading | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/not/now | 21:07 |
| zeq | how to fix? | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is that friggin code reentrant? | 21:07 |
| zeq | I don't think so | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | usually you fix this particular kind of race with a mutex | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or semaphore | 21:07 |
| zeq | yeah.... | 21:08 |
| zeq | I think it explains the weird behaviour on Harmattan too | 21:08 |
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| zeq | reportedly on rotation it jumps about at various angles | 21:09 |
| zeq | anyway, I need to go to the pub now ;) | 21:09 |
| zeq | I'm glad I've made some progress... | 21:09 |
| jean_brat | thanks DocScrutinizer .. let me crank open the case this weekend to have a better look inside | 21:10 |
| zeq | see ya doc | 21:10 |
| jean_brat | luke-jr, can it be un done? or remove the solder and install a better usb female connecter? | 21:11 |
| luke-jr | … | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jean_brat: opening (and esp reassembling) N900 is not like changing a tire on your car. Be *damn* careful with this flat ribbon connector between lower & upper half! | 21:11 |
| luke-jr | more like cut away from the plastic the solder is having trouble with | 21:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | zeq: o/ | 21:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | luke-jr: exactly | 21:12 |
| jean_brat | there are youtube videos which will give you a decent idea of what you will be doing | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the easiest and suggested method | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jean_brat: haven't seen any really decent video yet | 21:13 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer05: I did try, but couldn't make it fit somehow | 21:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | they all skip the nasty part of flap ribbon connector plug removal and esp re-insertion | 21:13 |
| jean_brat | does your phone charge now? luke-jr ? | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luke-jr: use chewinf gum, no kidding. Shows you where are the contact pints | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | points | 21:14 |
| jean_brat | ohh din know that DocScrutinizer | 21:14 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer05: huh? how woudl that work? | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jean_brat: yeah, and when you don't know, you lift the LCD half like "NOW!!! I did it!" and RIP FPC | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jean_brat: NEVER pull or bend the flat plastic cable, NEVER apply punctual force to the B2B connector at end of FPC | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and prepare for 15min of shouting swearwords when trying to re-insert that friggin B2B connector | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not like it will fit like the egg into the cup | 21:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | more like your door key into the keyhole, when you're drunk and it's dark | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it doesn't fit, start all over again. applying force will break the shite for sure | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sliding around with the plug basically doesn't help | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's one of the nastiest B2B connector designs I've ever seen - in any imaginable regard | 21:21 |
| jean_brat | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=693493&postcount=12 | 21:21 |
| jean_brat | this looks promissing | 21:21 |
| jean_brat | but don know if the case will fit inside after that | 21:21 |
| jean_brat | think its better done from the professionals | 21:21 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer05: I never had any trouble with it… | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is ok, minus the erroneous connection of ID to GND | 21:22 |
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| luke-jr | and I wasn't especially careful | 21:22 |
| jean_brat | how did you manage to put the case back again luke-jr ? | 21:22 |
| luke-jr | jean_brat: I just ignored the fact that it didn't fit <.< | 21:22 |
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| luke-jr | so the left side is slightly sticking out | 21:23 |
| jean_brat | ohh ok | 21:23 |
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| jean_brat | strange .. how they missed this part.. in such a great design of its time | 21:25 |
| jean_brat | in N900 | 21:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | jean_brat: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1018141#post1018141 | 21:26 |
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| chem|st | Woody14619: OBS? LDAP? nokia messed up their websites, they merged accounts and with that deleted the "city:" field from accountdetails | 21:28 |
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| jean_brat | ohh ok | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hi chem|st | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: can you update user posts on tmo? | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/update/edit/ | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | zeq: congrats man, now we know is is not our fault, it should be easy to be fixed | 21:31 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: chem|st: can you edit user posts on tmo? | 21:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: if so, could you add a link to http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1018141#post1018141 into http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=693493&postcount=12 please ? | 21:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or quote my whole comment in the original post even | 21:34 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: great job (apt-mirror I mean) | 21:48 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, ok :-) | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | could you mail me some list? | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | or it is too much o an effort | 21:49 |
| Pali | freemangordon, do you mean mirror.list of that backup? | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | I mean packages.tar.gz, but suspect I can access them | 21:50 |
| Pali | all is on merlin server in my home folder | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | Pali: nevermind | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 21:50 |
| Pali | I updated public repositories in mirror.list on wiki: https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror | 21:51 |
| Pali | there is some incomplete harmattan list | 21:51 |
| freemangordon | you add those there? | 21:52 |
| Pali | no | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | ok | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | :D | 21:52 |
| Pali | I added official harmattan | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | ok | 21:52 |
| Pali | sdk & device | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | ok, ok | 21:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, a /mode #maemo +q *!*@*.de | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and /mode #maemo +q *!*@*.it | 21:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack | 22:00 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: aw, gee | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~football | 22:00 |
| infobot | [football] played with a ball shaped like an ellipsoid, or rarely touched by the foot which makes the name confusing | 22:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wroooong! | 22:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~soccer | 22:01 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, soccer is - see football. short for Association Football (assoc -> soccer), or the Greatest Game in the World! | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plain BS | 22:01 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 burps | 22:07 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | /join #anti-soccer | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 22:13 |
| trx | freemangordon did you test it with changes i suggested? | 22:14 |
| trx | also, when the orientation changes, nsWindow::OnResizeEvent(QGraphicsSceneResizeEvent *aEvent) gets called | 22:16 |
| trx | you can resize there as well | 22:16 |
| trx | but that is on window level so you would have to resize children | 22:16 |
| RST38h | MEANWHILE: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/sanwa2-06-28-12-01.jpg | 22:17 |
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| zeq1 | freemangordon: Did you see my analysis above? | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | yep, and also answered | 22:27 |
| freemangordon | [21:30] <freemangordon> zeq: congrats man, now we know is is not our fault, it should be easy to be fixed | 22:27 |
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| zeq1 | :) it wasn't in the scrollback here on xchat | 22:28 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately I won't have time to look at the issue today (job) | 22:28 |
| zeq1 | np | 22:28 |
| freemangordon | but will do it tomorrow. mind to share your logs? | 22:28 |
| freemangordon | I mean those from printfs | 22:29 |
| zeq1 | sure, when I get home | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | wehn you have access to them of course | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | yeah :) | 22:29 |
| zeq1 | getting complaints from gf ;) | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | :D | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | night | 22:30 |
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| zeq1 | pub! :) | 22:32 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: done | 22:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: thanks | 22:45 |
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| zeq1 | freemangordon: http://pastebin.com/ajb5ne99 | 23:02 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Is the duplicate text issue usually on the receiving end or the sending end? | 23:03 |
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| * RST38h suggests GLSurfaceView authors die of bloody diarrhea | 23:03 | |
| RST38h | Same as their GLThread, every time the device is rotated | 23:08 |
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| Tofe | hei | 23:13 |
| Tofe | I'm trying to insert simple debug traces (with g_message) in my hildon status bar plugin, but the traces don't show up when I start af-sb-init.sh... Did I miss something stupid ? NB:I'm sure my code is the one that gets loaded. | 23:15 |
| Tofe | I see plenty of glib messages from trackerd, hildon-home, etc, so it must be me... | 23:15 |
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| Estel_ | Well, i haven't got my mail too | 23:34 |
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| Estel_ | at least, I got username that no one else would take, as Estel was occupied already... :P | 23:35 |
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