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| MrPingu | Hi, Estel_ :) | 00:15 |
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| ShadowJK | 10Mbit/s 3g modem in n900 anyway | 00:15 |
| MrPingu | I wanted to ask you about your digitizers but I think I have to wait a bit | 00:16 |
| MrPingu | The company of my fake digitizers just replied me that they will pay me twice the shippingcosts and they assured they would get me an original | 00:17 |
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| vi__ | PING!!! | 00:25 |
| vi__ | Ping any German speaking chap here! | 00:26 |
| vi__ | DocScrutinizer: for example | 00:26 |
| vi__ | or perhaps | 00:26 |
| vi__ | chem|st: ! | 00:26 |
| chem|st | vi__: pong | 00:26 |
| vi__ | good evening sir. | 00:26 |
| vi__ | May I ask a quick favour of you? | 00:26 |
| Tofe | Und guten Nacht ! | 00:26 |
| chem|st | sure | 00:26 |
| chem|st | Tofe: wrong spelling and I wont leave the channel | 00:27 |
| vi__ | can you read this short letter I have put through google translate and tell me if it makes anykind of sense or if it is just gibberish. | 00:27 |
| vi__ | http://pastebin.com/NTXcFbdB | 00:27 |
| Tofe | no, but I will :) | 00:27 |
| Tofe | bye | 00:27 |
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| chem|st | vi__: gtranslate is a bad idea! | 00:28 |
| vi__ | What else can I use? | 00:28 |
| chem|st | vi__: may I have the original paste please, it is rubish... | 00:29 |
| vi__ | lol | 00:29 |
| chem|st | even trying to get the right sense is off my limits | 00:29 |
| vi__ | http://pastebin.com/txVFz8Sm | 00:29 |
| vi__ | there | 00:29 |
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| chem|st | vi__: do you know his name? | 00:30 |
| vi__ | 1 sec | 00:30 |
| vi__ | beim-mueden-bjoern | 00:31 |
| vi__ | perhaps? | 00:31 |
| chem|st | vi__: in german you'd say "Dear Sir $surname" | 00:31 |
| chem|st | vi__: get it | 00:31 |
| vi__ | yes | 00:32 |
| vi__ | which of the above names is his surname? | 00:32 |
| vi__ | beim-mueden-bjoern | 00:32 |
| vi__ | these are the contact details I have: | 00:33 |
| vi__ | ***************************************** | 00:33 |
| vi__ | DER MÜDE BJÖRN - KLASSISCHE MOTORRADTEILE | 00:33 |
| vi__ | verkäufer mit top-bewertungen | 00:33 |
| vi__ | THE TIRED KRAUT - CLASSIC BIKE PARTS | 00:33 |
| vi__ | top - rated seller | 00:33 |
| vi__ | ***************************************** | 00:33 |
| vi__ | Rudolf-Diesel-Str. 12 | 00:33 |
| vi__ | Industriegebiet Nord | 00:33 |
| vi__ | D-68535 Neckarhausen | 00:33 |
| vi__ | Deutschland/Germany | 00:33 |
| vi__ | Ust-Idnr./Tax-Nr. DE 253 690 770 | 00:33 |
| vi__ | ***************************************** | 00:33 |
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| chem|st | vi will this be emailed ahead of the return? | 00:34 |
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| vi__ | bah anti spam garbage | 00:36 |
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| chem|st | vi__: bush in terms of bushings? | 00:39 |
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| vi__ | a mechanical bush, so yes a bushing. | 00:40 |
| chem|st | vi__: your first part (for pic one) is even in original not very telling | 00:43 |
| chem|st | you had to fit your old bush to the new monoshock, as the shipped with was worn out | 00:43 |
| chem|st | then you had to remove it again from his monoshock to put it back in your old monoshock? | 00:44 |
| vi__ | yes that is the case | 00:44 |
| chem|st | that is nothing he will be interested in... useless information... | 00:44 |
| vi__ | it explains why there is no bottom bush in the shock i am returning. | 00:45 |
| vi__ | also it adds weight to my case that this item is not as it was sold as | 00:45 |
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| chem|st | I'd say the something like, the bushing was gone so I had to replace it, the gas damping is broken... | 00:46 |
| chem|st | ah I see | 00:46 |
| chem|st | ok I figure it out... | 00:46 |
| vi__ | the gas damping is more than broken. It is not even fitted. | 00:48 |
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| vi__ | however I cannot admit I know that as a suspension mechanic had to open it to find this out. | 00:48 |
| vi__ | it is just a 'shell' of a shock absorber. | 00:48 |
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| chem|st | vi__: http://pastebin.com/DsU1L2da | 00:58 |
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| chem|st | vi__: please state up front that you do not speak german and that he may reply in english, guess that will not be that a problem | 00:58 |
| chem|st | you may also tell that I helped and cc me so he may contact me if he does not speak english | 00:59 |
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| chem|st | vi__: next time you tell me what you need and I ask my father to get one for you | 00:59 |
| vi__ | chem|st: I love you. | 01:00 |
| vi__ | chem|st: bro. | 01:00 |
| chem|st | vi__: you may regret it some time :) | 01:00 |
| vi__ | If you have paypal address I would be honoured if I may stand you a beer or 2? | 01:01 |
| chem|st | vi__: community is community, beer anytime but I prefer a personal meetup! | 01:01 |
| chem|st | vi__: you got my email for cc? | 01:02 |
| vi__ | cc? | 01:02 |
| vi__ | you mean ca? | 01:02 |
| chem|st | carboncopy email? | 01:02 |
| vi__ | the paste you just made? | 01:02 |
| chem|st | vi__: did you even read that about telling in your mail that you do not speak german?! | 01:03 |
| chem|st | send both in one letter | 01:03 |
| chem|st | ehrm email | 01:04 |
| vi__ | aah. | 01:04 |
| vi__ | I missed the second part about cc. | 01:04 |
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| chem|st | tell between german and english that you had help for translation | 01:05 |
| internetishard | how do you make it so the sent email messages from your n900 appear in "sent" in gmail? | 01:05 |
| chem|st | internetishard: move them by hand from send on N900 to gmail... | 01:05 |
| internetishard | everytime? | 01:05 |
| chem|st | sentmail.. | 01:05 |
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| internetishard | I thought this was the point of synchronization of devices | 01:06 |
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| chem|st | internetishard: I do not know about any other solution | 01:06 |
| chem|st | brb | 01:06 |
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| cehteh | blubb | 01:40 |
| chem|st | drowning? | 01:40 |
| * cehteh needs avrdude on the n900 anyone tried that yet? | 01:40 | |
| vi__ | brb | 01:42 |
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| chem|st | cehteh: there is no .deb if you mean that, s/o told to have ported it to n810 but I do not see it in the repos | 01:44 |
| cehteh | when you remind who was it, please tell me | 01:45 |
| cehteh | and bonus points for avr-gcc :P | 01:45 |
| chem|st | cehteh: steffen vogel, http://www.steffenvogel.de/2009/01/11/selfmade-nokia-n810-micro-usb-otg-kabel/ | 01:47 |
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| chem|st | cehteh: https://0l.de/cgit/ | 01:48 |
| cehteh | thanks | 01:49 |
| chem|st | what's the bonus? | 01:51 |
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| cehteh | sorry i was soldering | 01:53 |
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| cehteh | bonus is a 2nd lukewarm handshake :P | 01:53 |
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| Macer | ok | 03:29 |
| Macer | i cant take it anymore | 03:29 |
| Macer | i seriosly need to contact nokia about this fucking problem | 03:29 |
| Macer | with the wifi on the lumia 900 | 03:29 |
| Macer | it's driving me crazy | 03:29 |
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| ShadowJK | what wifi problem? | 04:47 |
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| Macer | lol | 09:38 |
| Macer | omg live chat tech support from nokia is a joke | 09:39 |
| Macer | what a waste of life, time, and resources | 09:39 |
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| zeq | freemangordon: I've found I need to patch the fennec source, but the maemo fennec debian/rules seems very strange to me: unpacking the source tree during build..?!? It's too late by then to patch with quilt! | 12:39 |
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| merlin1991 | zeq: quite a few maemo packages apply quilt patches within debian/rules | 12:44 |
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| zeq | merlin1991: how should it be done? Have you seen the rules for fennec. I don't know whether it's unusual or not. | 12:46 |
| merlin1991 | I didn't see the rules for fennec | 12:46 |
| zeq | I've tried including the quilt patchsys | 12:47 |
| zeq | that didn't work because the source isn't unpacked | 12:47 |
| merlin1991 | is the rules file somewhere on the net hat I can have a quick look? | 12:47 |
| zeq | it's in extras-devel | 12:48 |
| zeq | that's the version I basing upon | 12:49 |
| zeq | there's a Fennec 13 thread on tmo | 12:49 |
| merlin1991 | could you just pastebin the rules, I'm currently on windows | 12:50 |
| zeq | hang on | 12:50 |
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| * zeq is installing irc client on his laptop since empathy is broken | 12:55 | |
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| * zeq is surprised XChat takes so long to emerge... | 12:59 | |
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| zeq | channel window isn't appearing in XChat on my laptop. Wonderful! | 13:12 |
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| zeq | I've installed ircii, how do I switch to a channel I've joined?? | 13:17 |
| merlin1991 | ctrl+# | 13:18 |
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| zeq | literally? | 13:20 |
| merlin1991 | # stands for number ,) | 13:20 |
| zeq | that's what I thought | 13:20 |
| zeq | doesn't seem to work :/ | 13:20 |
| merlin1991 | /window # | 13:21 |
| merlin1991 | I think that should always work | 13:21 |
| zeq | doesn't seem to in ircII | 13:21 |
| merlin1991 | hm | 13:22 |
| zeq | \/info gives info about the current window | 13:23 |
| zeq | I'm obviously doing something wrong | 13:23 |
| zeq | I seemed to join ^^ | 13:24 |
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| fizzie | Based on very vague recollections of ircII, if you don't explicitly put your channels to different windows, your channels will not be in different windows, but just all meshed in together, with ^x switching the channel being talked to. (And /window swap <r> swaps the current window with the hidden window of that number.) | 13:27 |
| zeq | irssi then... | 13:27 |
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| zeq_laptop | irssi works :) | 13:31 |
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| zeq_laptop | http://pastebin.com/Hyhxdhx4 | 13:34 |
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| merlin1991 | zeq_laptop: well then add simple call to quilt after the tar call? | 13:35 |
| zeq_laptop | I haven't used quilt for 10 years.. | 13:36 |
| zeq_laptop | so how do I apply a patch series? | 13:36 |
| zeq_laptop | the last time I did any packaging for a debian based distro was for the PS2 Linux Kit | 13:37 |
| zeq_laptop | :) | 13:37 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 13:38 |
| merlin1991 | you need to have the debian/patches folder | 13:39 |
| merlin1991 | the series file in there | 13:39 |
| zeq_laptop | I've done that | 13:39 |
| merlin1991 | and after that see man quilt | 13:39 |
| merlin1991 | (I don't remember the commandline for apply all patches) | 13:39 |
| zeq_laptop | better install man on sb ... | 13:39 |
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| merlin1991 | zeq_laptop: it's quilt push -a | 13:41 |
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| zeq_laptop | thanks! | 13:41 |
| zeq_laptop | I'll need to add quilt to the build-deps too I guess | 13:42 |
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| merlin1991 | yep | 13:45 |
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| zeq_laptop | merlin1991: what fun... quilt push -a attempts to apply the patches to the top of the build tree, not to where the source was unpacked, even if I 'cd' into it first! | 13:58 |
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| merlin1991 | if you cd you need to cd somewhere && quilt push -a | 14:03 |
| zeq_laptop | ah ok | 14:04 |
| zeq_laptop | forgot it was a makefile for a moment ;) | 14:04 |
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| zeq_laptop | merlin1991: figured it out. debian/patches needs to be symlinked into the unpacked source dir | 14:14 |
| zeq_laptop | the patches I'm using assume the tree is unpacked at the top level | 14:16 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: look here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/dosfstools/blobs/master/debian/rules | 14:28 |
| freemangordon | I expect you only need to add include /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make | 14:29 |
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| freemangordon | patch / unpatch to build/clean section | 14:30 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: It turns out patching it may not help afterall. I thought I was hitting this bus: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738416 but that's already applied to the source I'm using. Instead it's failing at link time. (same method though) | 14:38 |
| povbot | Bug 738416: was not found. | 14:38 |
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| zeq_laptop | I guess it's not in our qt lib | 14:39 |
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| StyXman | echo deb http://ubuntu.packages.gtm.p.fti.net/dop lucid-preprod pns > /var/opt/hosting/data/pns_php/etc/apt/sources.list.d/pns-preprod.list | 14:56 |
| StyXman | duh | 14:56 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: what could not be found in link time, I am quite familiar with Qt, maybe I can help | 15:30 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: QTMLocationProvider::SetHighAccuracy() | 15:36 |
| zeq_laptop | I've essentially reverted the patch that added it to mozilla with #if 0, trying to build again atm | 15:37 |
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| zeq_laptop | it was added for this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738416 | 15:38 |
| povbot | Bug 738416: was not found. | 15:38 |
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| japh | I play music with mplayer. When I slide open the keyboard fully, the sound is interupted for half a second or so. Same thing if someone sends a text. Isn't pulseaudio supposed to be able to play multiple streams at once, or is this because of something else? | 15:56 |
| ivgalvez | japh: Probably mplayer is not configured to use pulseaudio but Alsa | 15:59 |
| zeq_laptop | japh: do you use -ao pulse ? | 16:00 |
| japh | ivgalvez, yes. | 16:00 |
| japh | err. zeq_laptop - yes | 16:00 |
| ivgalvez | then it "might be" because mplayer is not using DSP acceleration | 16:00 |
| ivgalvez | and takes a lot of CPU | 16:00 |
| japh | uhm | 16:00 |
| ivgalvez | compare CPU consumption with any MAFW player | 16:01 |
| japh | MAFW? | 16:01 |
| ivgalvez | I mean | 16:01 |
| ivgalvez | any regular player | 16:01 |
| ivgalvez | stock one | 16:01 |
| japh | the reason why I'm using mplayer is because everything else sucks | 16:01 |
| ivgalvez | or Open Media Player for example | 16:01 |
| japh | okay | 16:01 |
| ivgalvez | if Mplayer consumes almost 100% of your CPU, that would explain the interruption | 16:02 |
| japh | can I assume that if I try to replace pulse with for example oss4, things will break horribly? | 16:02 |
| ivgalvez | use alse instead | 16:02 |
| ivgalvez | that wouldn't allow any other application to take over your audio | 16:02 |
| japh | wtf | 16:03 |
| japh | why on earth didn't I think of that? | 16:03 |
| ivgalvez | -ao alsa | 16:03 |
| japh | that's why I have never liked alsa | 16:03 |
| japh | and now it's my saviour | 16:03 |
| japh | (dmix never works for me) | 16:03 |
| japh | thanks, ivgalvez | 16:03 |
| ivgalvez | anyhow, notifications are terrible | 16:03 |
| ivgalvez | consuming a lot of resources | 16:03 |
| japh | fwiw, mplayer uses ~15-20% of cpu, depending on if it's flac or mp3 I'm playing | 16:06 |
| vi_ | fwiw mplayer alsa output is absolute shite. | 16:07 |
| vi_ | It crashes CONSTANTLY. | 16:07 |
| vi_ | FOrcing you to restart it with ctrl+c | 16:07 |
| * japh cries | 16:07 | |
| vi_ | japh: why you are not using open media player? | 16:08 |
| japh | I don't know what it is or if I've tried it | 16:08 |
| japh | but everything I've tried is horribly userhostile | 16:08 |
| vi_ | It is like the normal stock media player but with MOAR FEETURES!!! | 16:08 |
| japh | I'll check it out | 16:09 |
| japh | ... but not today it seems | 16:10 |
| japh | I have a n950 to go checkout :D | 16:10 |
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| vi_ | japh HOW?? | 16:13 |
| vi_ | japh: HOW?? | 16:13 |
| vi_ | Where did you get an n950? | 16:13 |
| japh | sweden! | 16:13 |
| vi_ | o0 | 16:13 |
| petteri | damn sweden! | 16:13 |
| vi_ | is this legitimate? | 16:13 |
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| vi_ | Dont worry, I will not tell. | 16:13 |
| japh | heh | 16:13 |
| japh | yes | 16:13 |
| vi_ | japh: developer program? | 16:14 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: Which module is that? It is not in Qt for sure. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679236 ? | 16:14 |
| povbot | Bug 679236: was not found. | 16:14 |
| japh | oh you meant if I got it from nokia? | 16:14 |
| japh | that I did not | 16:14 |
| freemangordon | povbot: shut up | 16:14 |
| povbot | freemangordon: Error: "shut" is not a valid command. | 16:14 |
| vi_ | ...but that is the only place to get one. | 16:14 |
| japh | 'yeah' :) | 16:14 |
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| vi_ | japh: not gonna talk huh? | 16:19 |
| japh | I happened to befriend someone who got one for dev and eventually my charm payed off | 16:21 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: qtm-location I'd guess | 16:25 |
| japh | I didn't think they were that attractive, most people seems to like the n9 but I really can't stand not having a keyboard | 16:25 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: which qt-mobility version do you use? | 16:34 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: I seem to have the cssu versions installed, but this target hasn't been upgraded to CSSU. | 16:40 |
| zeq_laptop | hmm | 16:40 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: CSSU has qtm 1.0.2, maybe you need 1.2.0, which is in extras-devel afaik | 16:40 |
| freemangordon | but I still fail to see which symbol is missing :) | 16:41 |
| zeq_laptop | except I've been asked to try to maintain non-CSSU compatibility... extras-devel is even less compatible... | 16:42 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: iirc I toldya to enable the thumb repo and to upgrade the target. You MUST do that, otherwise your Qt mkspecs won't be correct | 16:42 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: you're using gcc 4.6.2 | 16:43 |
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| freemangordon | you're not compatible with anything but CSSU-thumb :D | 16:43 |
| zeq_laptop | I have a target configured that way | 16:43 |
| freemangordon | which way? | 16:43 |
| zeq_laptop | time to start compilinng again..? :) | 16:43 |
| freemangordon | wait | 16:43 |
| freemangordon | let me help you | 16:44 |
| zeq_laptop | with cssu-thumb | 16:44 |
| zeq_laptop | I have an upgraded scratchbox target | 16:44 |
| freemangordon | yeah, QT in CSSU is 4.7.4 | 16:44 |
| zeq_laptop | with cssu-thumb | 16:44 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 16:44 |
| freemangordon | but qtm is still 1.0.2 | 16:44 |
| freemangordon | and AFAIK for HARM you need 1.2.0 | 16:44 |
| zeq_laptop | but I'm currently using a target which is not cssu, but has the repo in sources.list | 16:45 |
| freemangordon | and gcc 4.2.1? | 16:45 |
| zeq_laptop | and is up-to-date otherwise | 16:45 |
| zeq_laptop | gcc-4.6 | 16:45 |
| freemangordon | naah, you shuld enable cssu-thumb repo | 16:45 |
| freemangordon | and do apt-get update/upgrade | 16:45 |
| zeq_laptop | sorry, yes cssu-thumb is in sources list, upgraded, but not with release upgrade | 16:46 |
| zeq_laptop | other target is fully upgraded | 16:46 |
| freemangordon | it is not needed | 16:46 |
| freemangordon | siple upgrade should do the job | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | *simple | 16:47 |
| zeq_laptop | it has the cssu-thumb qt libs installed I think | 16:47 |
| zeq_laptop | I guess they don't get held back | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | as long as you have qt-dev-...-bla-bla-thumbN you're ok | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | *libqt-dev... | 16:47 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: could you pastebin the exact linker erroro message? | 16:48 |
| zeq_laptop | I don't have the build log | 16:49 |
| zeq_laptop | it's building currently with the failing code #if 0'd | 16:50 |
| zeq_laptop | It will probably fail... | 16:50 |
| freemangordon | that won't work | 16:50 |
| freemangordon | :D | 16:50 |
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| freemangordon | yeah | 16:50 |
| zeq_laptop | what's the qt-mobility package called? | 16:51 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: do you have that one? https://bug679236.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=553396 | 16:51 |
| zeq_laptop | qtm | 16:51 |
| freemangordon | let me check | 16:51 |
| zeq_laptop | libqtm | 16:52 |
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| zeq_laptop | I don't have it installed! | 16:52 |
| zeq_laptop | I need to add it to the build-dep for my fennec build | 16:52 |
| zeq_laptop | you'd think the the configure would have mentioned something... :S | 16:53 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: libqtm-12 | 16:53 |
| freemangordon | that is qt-mobility 1.2 | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | but try with 1.0.2 first | 16:54 |
| zeq_laptop | didn't have that either | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | yeah, that is the one in extyras-devel | 16:54 |
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| zeq_laptop | I'm getting tempted to set up scratchbox on my server... | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | :D | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | BTW did you looak at the link i posted | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | *look | 16:55 |
| zeq_laptop | I'll see if it needs applying | 16:55 |
| freemangordon | because it adds PKG_CONFIG for qtm :P | 16:56 |
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| freemangordon | and missing QtLocation LD flags :) | 16:57 |
| zeq_laptop | it's already in | 16:57 |
| freemangordon | so how is your configure not failing then ?!? | 16:57 |
| zeq_laptop | good question! | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | hmm, is there autoconf.sh? | 16:58 |
| zeq_laptop | where? | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | sorry, autogen.sh | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | in main directory | 16:58 |
| freemangordon | where did you get the source from? | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | so I can look at debian stuff | 16:59 |
| zeq_laptop | mozilla ftp | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | no git? damn | 16:59 |
| zeq_laptop | I thought I'd do better to at least work from a beta release :) | 16:59 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: seems debian/rules is screwed, is it you to make it? | 17:00 |
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| zeq_laptop | http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/candidates/14.0b7-candidates/build3/source/ | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | thanks | 17:01 |
| zeq_laptop | I think that's the right one | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | i need tar.bz one? | 17:01 |
| zeq_laptop | I'm using the debian/rules from maemo | 17:01 |
| zeq_laptop | -extras | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 17:01 |
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| zeq_laptop | it's not very nice though | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | but it should work | 17:02 |
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| zeq_laptop | there is this in the mozilla source: mozilla-beta/mobile/xul/installer/debian | 17:04 |
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| zeq_laptop | I did take a look at the ubuntu fennec package, it's rather dependent on ubuntu though | 17:06 |
| freemangordon | let me check what is in maemo-extras | 17:07 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: may I have you mozconfig | 17:08 |
| freemangordon | *your | 17:08 |
| zeq_laptop | sure | 17:09 |
| zeq_laptop | http://pastebin.com/sTpX6w3a | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | 10x | 17:10 |
| zeq_laptop | think enable-application is wrong... maybe | 17:12 |
| freemangordon | gimme some time to download the source | 17:13 |
| freemangordon | aah, control dependencies are for GTK build ;) | 17:13 |
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| zeq_laptop | I changed it because there only seems to be infrastructure in place for mobile/xul and mobile/android | 17:14 |
| zeq_laptop | the old fennec was built against gtk, but that's been bit-rotting since v7 | 17:15 |
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| zeq_laptop | the qt version has seen a lot of optimization since then | 17:16 |
| freemangordon | yeah, sure, my comment was that debian/control has nothing to do with th real requirements | 17:17 |
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| zeq_laptop | yes, I changed it locally | 17:18 |
| zeq_laptop | there's also a dependency on python-simplejson | 17:18 |
| zeq_laptop | needed for build | 17:19 |
| zeq_laptop | not listed | 17:19 |
| freemangordon | thanks. BTW you're missing -O2 | 17:20 |
| zeq_laptop | the package seems to take care of -Os -O3 depending on component | 17:20 |
| freemangordon | hmm, strange. OK | 17:20 |
| zeq_laptop | I mean the mozilla build system itself | 17:20 |
| freemangordon | ok, build started | 17:21 |
| freemangordon | yeah, got it | 17:21 |
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| zeq_laptop | hope you have fast hw ;) | 17:21 |
| freemangordon | yep | 17:21 |
| freemangordon | 4 phenom 955 BE cores | 17:21 |
| freemangordon | 3.2 GHz | 17:21 |
| zeq_laptop | similar to my server | 17:22 |
| freemangordon | should be fast enough | 17:22 |
| zeq_laptop | I've been building on core2duo laptop though | 17:22 |
| freemangordon | wow | 17:22 |
| freemangordon | that sounds slow | 17:22 |
| zeq_laptop | definitely slower | 17:22 |
| zeq_laptop | server is noisy when it's busy though | 17:22 |
| zeq_laptop | gets annoying | 17:23 |
| zeq_laptop | the laptop is nicely undervolted, so it has to be working really hard to get the fan really spinning | 17:24 |
| freemangordon | sure, but it takes 35 minutes to build Qt here, 10 to build the kernel :). So I can live with the noise | 17:24 |
| SpeedEvil | My fan is spinning really fast here. | 17:25 |
| SpeedEvil | And the laptop is quite hot | 17:25 |
| SpeedEvil | But then, it is in the bright sunshine. | 17:25 |
| zeq_laptop | undervolting really helps | 17:25 |
| zeq_laptop | takes time and patience to profile though | 17:26 |
| zeq_laptop | same as n900 | 17:26 |
| zeq_laptop | except that doesn't burn my legs! :) | 17:27 |
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| teotwaki | freemangordon: I'll raise you my dual i5 2500k | 17:34 |
| teotwaki | <fake intel fanboi> AMD SUCKS! </> | 17:34 |
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| freemangordon | teotwaki: :D. I've been AMD fan since the days I was running my 486DX2@80 at 100 MHz. 50 MHz VLB, it was flying :P | 17:36 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: it needs alsa too. but why alsa, I think pulseaudio is the way to go on n900 | 17:38 |
| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: I had an AMD 5x86 running at 150Mhz, 50MHz VLB, quite a machine :) | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | yeah :) | 17:39 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: what about alsa? | 17:40 |
| zeq_laptop | what about alsa? | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | checking for alsa... Package alsa was not found in the pkg-config search path. | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `alsa.pc' | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | that is fennec configure | 17:40 |
| zeq_laptop | didn't spot that | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | AFAIK alsa sucks on n900, let me check where is that configured | 17:41 |
| zeq_laptop | is it needed for the WebM support or something? | 17:41 |
| zeq_laptop | doesn't it use gstreamer? | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | n900? yes, it uses gstreamer | 17:42 |
| zeq_laptop | I mean fennec/webm | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | aah, NFC | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: Need alsa for Ogg, Wave or WebM decoding on Linux. Disable with --disable-ogg --disable-wave --disable-webm | 17:43 |
| freemangordon | well, lets install it then | 17:44 |
| zeq_laptop | yes, we definitely want those features :) | 17:45 |
| freemangordon | the correct package is libasound2-dev | 17:46 |
| zeq_laptop | I already had it installed | 17:46 |
| freemangordon | yeah. BTW I am adding those to debian/control | 17:46 |
| zeq_laptop | it's already in my control file | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | so next time Depends: will be ok | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | :D | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | well, now it is in mine too :P | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | may I have your depends: | 17:47 |
| zeq_laptop | http://pastebin.com/4DnmgQng | 17:48 |
| freemangordon | 10x | 17:48 |
| zeq_laptop | I added libqtm-dev, don't know if it needs 1.2 yet as you know | 17:49 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 17:50 |
| freemangordon | btw you should depend only on libqt4-dev for building, without the other qt packages | 17:50 |
| zeq_laptop | ok | 17:50 |
| zeq_laptop | others should be in run-time deps | 17:51 |
| zeq_laptop | don't know why i did that | 17:51 |
| zeq_laptop | error | 17:51 |
| freemangordon | yeah, happens | 17:51 |
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| zeq_laptop | I do think I made a mistake specifying mobile/xul, what do you have it set to? | 17:54 |
| freemangordon | in mozconfig? | 17:54 |
| freemangordon | I am using yours | 17:54 |
| zeq_laptop | actually, ignore me | 17:55 |
| zeq_laptop | it seems mobile is an alias for mobile/xul anyway from configure output | 17:55 |
| freemangordon | let me check what are the options | 17:55 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 17:55 |
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| freemangordon | ok, build process started | 17:58 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, it failed because some file missing, let me start over | 18:01 |
| zeq_laptop | missing file? | 18:02 |
| freemangordon | yeah, something in asm/ | 18:03 |
| zeq_laptop | strange | 18:03 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but I tried to build it with -nc flag | 18:03 |
| freemangordon | most probably that is the reason | 18:03 |
| zeq_laptop | -nc is probably broken given the debian/rules unpacks during build | 18:07 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 18:07 |
| zeq_laptop | it's a bit yucky | 18:08 |
| freemangordon | Ill, fix that once the build is ok | 18:08 |
| freemangordon | s/Ill, /I'll / | 18:08 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: I'll fix that once the build is ok | 18:08 |
| freemangordon | "/home/maemo/workspace/tmp/fennec-14.0b7/mozilla-beta/js/src/assembler/assembler/MacroAssemblerARM.cpp:48:26: fatal error: asm/procinfo.h: No such file or directory | 18:09 |
| freemangordon | " | 18:09 |
| freemangordon | WTF? | 18:09 |
| zeq_laptop | not had that problem here | 18:09 |
| freemangordon | linux-headers? | 18:09 |
| zeq_laptop | probably | 18:09 |
| zeq_laptop | I have no /usr/include/asm/procinfo.h though | 18:10 |
| freemangordon | it is in /usr/share/source AFAIK | 18:10 |
| zeq_laptop | I have no /usr/share/source | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | lets ask google | 18:11 |
| zeq_laptop | doesn't sound like it should be being included | 18:12 |
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| zeq_laptop | ah | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2,6,28) | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | #include <asm/procinfo.h> | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | funny, isn't it | 18:14 |
| zeq_laptop | what kernel version do you have? | 18:14 |
| zeq_laptop | why does it matter? :S | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | Linux maemo-desktop-13 2.6.32-41-generic #90-Ubuntu SMP Tue May 22 11:31:25 UTC 2012 arm GNU/Linux | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | yeah, should not | 18:15 |
| zeq_laptop | wtf is causing that to happen? | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | any clue where LINUX_VERSION_CODE is defined | 18:16 |
| zeq_laptop | yes | 18:16 |
| zeq_laptop | /usr/include/linux/version.h | 18:16 |
| zeq_laptop | it's included just above the code you quoted ^^ ;( | 18:17 |
| zeq_laptop | ;) | 18:17 |
| freemangordon | #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 132630 | 18:17 |
| freemangordon | WTF? | 18:17 |
| zeq_laptop | 132636 | 18:17 |
| freemangordon | yeah, seems I have to install linux-headers-cssu | 18:18 |
| zeq_laptop | I have "linux-kernel-headers" installed | 18:18 |
| zeq_laptop | not sure which repo that's from | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | cssu-thumb :P | 18:19 |
| zeq_laptop | explains it :) | 18:19 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, for some reason apt-get thinks linux-kernel-headers in cssu-thumb are lower version than those in sdk repo :S | 18:22 |
| zeq_laptop | why did it get work for me? | 18:22 |
| freemangordon | NFC | 18:22 |
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| freemangordon | damn. the package name is linux-kernel-cssu-headers :( | 18:23 |
| zeq_laptop | mine is definitely linux-kernel-headers | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | I have that installed too, NFC why it has a lower linux version | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | well, after installing kernel-cssu-headers it seems ok | 18:27 |
| zeq_laptop | good :) | 18:28 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, its getting noisy here :D | 18:37 |
| zeq_laptop | no more errors? | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | yep | 18:40 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: is there a reason for specifying vfp in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS over neon? (The cortex-a8 has a really incapable vfp unit.) | 19:01 |
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| zeq_laptop | I was just thinking about the thumb SDK howto | 19:02 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: AFAIK gcc vectoriser sucks | 19:02 |
| zeq_laptop | even on 4.6? | 19:02 |
| freemangordon | otherwise that is a legacy from ARMEL_FREMANTLE target | 19:03 |
| freemangordon | NFC | 19:03 |
| zeq_laptop | I read on wikipedia the VFP is 10x slower | 19:03 |
| freemangordon | could be | 19:03 |
| freemangordon | but AFAIK you should enable -munsafe-math too, as NEON has some precision incompatibilities with ieee standart | 19:04 |
| freemangordon | otherwise vectoriser wouldn't kick in | 19:04 |
| freemangordon | It is possible I am talking bullshit too :D | 19:04 |
| zeq_laptop | you could well be right, if so it's a rational for the default at least | 19:05 |
| zeq_laptop | s/rational/rationale/ | 19:06 |
| infobot | zeq_laptop meant: you could well be right, if so it's a rationale for the default at least | 19:06 |
| zeq_laptop | however, I suspect if a typical order of magnitude performance difference is typical... | 19:06 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: I is the same situation as with MMX/SSEx AFAIK, you should use asm to have some speed gain | 19:07 |
| freemangordon | *It | 19:07 |
| zeq_laptop | well -mfpmath=sse is std on x86_64 | 19:07 |
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| freemangordon | yeah, but do you thing ARM gcc is as advanced as x86/64 is? I doubt. | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | *think | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | well, now we have a modern gcc version we can do some tests | 19:08 |
| zeq_laptop | indeed | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | just need to find a victim to be optimized | 19:08 |
| zeq_laptop | 4.2 was pretty horrible | 19:08 |
| freemangordon | on the other hand I think we already have neon/pld optimized memcpy in libc6 | 19:09 |
| zeq_laptop | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#Advanced_SIMD_.28NEON.29 | 19:09 |
| zeq_laptop | mentions mp3 as a victim | 19:09 |
| zeq_laptop | mp3 stream decoding @10Mhz | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but it should be hand-coded, I don't think gcc can make it | 19:10 |
| freemangordon | WOW, linking libxul :) | 19:10 |
| zeq_laptop | the vectorizor was seriously improved in 4.6 | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | could be, I don't have much deeper knowledge on gcc internals | 19:11 |
| zeq_laptop | might need -ftree-vectorize though to turn it on | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | yeah, that one too | 19:11 |
| freemangordon | along with -funsafe-math | 19:12 |
| freemangordon | (or whatever the switch was) | 19:12 |
| zeq_laptop | not relevent for fennec though because it is hand coded for NEON | 19:12 |
| zeq_laptop | -ffast-math | 19:12 |
| freemangordon | aah, yeah :) | 19:12 |
| zeq_laptop | or theres -Ofast today too | 19:12 |
| zeq_laptop | that one's fun for breaking things :) | 19:13 |
| zeq_laptop | (My entire Gentoo is built with it btw) | 19:13 |
| zeq_laptop | except where it's *known* to break things | 19:14 |
| zeq_laptop | most packages actually check during configure for ieee754 compliance where they need it | 19:15 |
| zeq_laptop | it's just those which don't... | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | damn, what size has libxul in fennec, it is linking for the last 5 minutes :O | 19:15 |
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| zeq_laptop | it's probably big | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | yeah, probably :) | 19:16 |
| freemangordon | I hope I won't run out of RAM | 19:16 |
| _PanzerSajt | hy | 19:16 |
| zeq_laptop | with fennec 7 from extras it's 21.7M stripped | 19:17 |
| freemangordon | hmm, I am already OOM :( | 19:17 |
| zeq_laptop | how much do you have? | 19:17 |
| freemangordon | It's a virtual machine, 1GB | 19:17 |
| freemangordon | otherwise I have $ | 19:17 |
| freemangordon | 4 | 19:17 |
| zeq_laptop | I'm going to hit the same limit aren't I.../ | 19:18 |
| zeq_laptop | can we give it more? | 19:18 |
| freemangordon | lets hope 1.5 GB of swap will be enough | 19:18 |
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| zeq_laptop | is it scratchbox that's limited? or are you running in a separate VM? | 19:19 |
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| freemangordon | I am running Nokia's wmware image | 19:19 |
| freemangordon | *vmware | 19:19 |
| zeq_laptop | oh right ok | 19:19 |
| zeq_laptop | so I should be okay ... | 19:19 |
| freemangordon | ok, ld failed | 19:19 |
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| freemangordon | undefined reference to `MaemoLocationProvider::SetHighAccuracy(bool)' | 19:20 |
| zeq_laptop | :( | 19:20 |
| zeq_laptop | hmm | 19:20 |
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| zeq_laptop | OOM? | 19:20 |
| zeq_laptop | or missing symbol? | 19:20 |
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| freemangordon | noo, it is a missing symbol | 19:20 |
| freemangordon | the same as yours | 19:20 |
| zeq_laptop | THE missing symbol | 19:20 |
| freemangordon | THE missing symbol | 19:20 |
| freemangordon | are you shure the patch from romaxa is there | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | ? | 19:21 |
| zeq_laptop | yes | 19:21 |
| zeq_laptop | It might be worth trying with it reverted | 19:21 |
| zeq_laptop | I've no idea where that comes from | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | but why it cannot find it then. BTW I don't see any libqtm libs in ld command line, only Qt ones | 19:21 |
| zeq_laptop | in the bugzilla entry it talks about Android | 19:21 |
| freemangordon | hmm,let me check PKG_CONFIG | 19:22 |
| zeq_laptop | yet my googling reveals that API is related to qtm | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | well, that could explain why | 19:22 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: that is from config.log: | 19:24 |
| freemangordon | "/scratchbox/compilers/arm-linux-fremantle-gcc4.6.2/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/4.6.2/../../../../arm-none-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtSensors" | 19:24 |
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| zeq_laptop | which is? | 19:26 |
| zeq_laptop | is it related? | 19:26 |
| freemangordon | configure:16153: checking for QtSensors QtFeedback QtLocation | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | is it? :P | 19:27 |
| freemangordon | could be that PKG_CONFIG cannot find libwtm package on fremantle | 19:28 |
| zeq_laptop | okay, so what is libwtm? | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | sorry, typo, libqtm | 19:29 |
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| freemangordon | damn, there is no QtSensors package | 19:29 |
| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: I have a symlink: libQtSensors.so -> libQtSensors.so.1.0.2 | 19:29 |
| zeq_laptop | but no libQtSensors.so.1.0.2 | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | but there is no pkgconfig package | 19:30 |
| zeq_laptop | missing lib in qt | 19:30 |
| zeq_laptop | ? | 19:30 |
| zeq_laptop | there is no lib | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | no, missing .pc | 19:30 |
| zeq_laptop | just the symlink | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | there is a library, but no .pc in -dev package | 19:30 |
| zeq_laptop | I don't have the lib | 19:30 |
| zeq_laptop | I have a symlink belonging to libqtm-dev | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | hmm, me too | 19:31 |
| zeq_laptop | the lib is missing here | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | seems after all we need libqtm12 | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | Or I screwed it up when libqtm was build | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | lemme check | 19:32 |
| zeq_laptop | is it installed into /usr/lib or opt? | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | it should be in /opt | 19:33 |
| zeq_laptop | qtm-12 is installed into /opt/qtm12 | 19:33 |
| freemangordon | qtm is in /opt/maemo/usr/lib | 19:33 |
| zeq_laptop | I decided to install it since you didn't, just in case | 19:33 |
| zeq_laptop | but there's a b0rken symlink in /usr/lib | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | but you should change which version to be used, hold on | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | it is not so simple | 19:34 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: seems I screwed up qtm-sensors.install, lemme fix it | 19:35 |
| zeq_laptop | libqtm-dev doesn't pull in the binaries | 19:35 |
| freemangordon | it depends on the other packages | 19:36 |
| freemangordon | give me 10 minutes to fix qt-mobility package | 19:36 |
| zeq_laptop | libqtm-sensors at least isn't installed | 19:36 |
| zeq_laptop | I have no broken deps | 19:36 |
| freemangordon | hmm, correct | 19:37 |
| zeq_laptop | libqtm-location is installed though | 19:37 |
| zeq_laptop | except -dev creates symlinks to non-existant libs | 19:37 |
| zeq_laptop | at least QtSensors | 19:37 |
| zeq_laptop | anyway | 19:38 |
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| freemangordon | damn, seems -dev package dependencies are screwed | 19:38 |
| freemangordon | apt-get install libqtm-sensors does the job | 19:38 |
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| zeq_laptop | is it the only missing one? | 19:38 |
| freemangordon | I think so | 19:38 |
| zeq_laptop | that fixed my symlink | 19:39 |
| zeq_laptop | I wonder if it's too late for my build | 19:39 |
| freemangordon | I am afraid yes :( | 19:39 |
| freemangordon | as you win't have -lQtSensors | 19:40 |
| zeq_laptop | pretty silly of configure allowing it to continue | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | yep | 19:40 |
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| zeq_laptop | ^C | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | I'm starting over, thanks god it takes only 30 minutes here | 19:40 |
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| freemangordon | but will increase my RAM to 2GB before that | 19:42 |
| zeq_laptop | good idea | 19:43 |
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| zeq_laptop | I wonder if it would be worth using neon instead of vfp even for scalar math given the a8's VFPLite? | 19:45 |
| zeq_laptop | I'm going to look into the non-conformance issue | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | switching between neon/vfp is a very heavy op, something like 25-50 CPU ticks | 19:46 |
| zeq_laptop | so it's better if it's used more if it all | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | but have in mind everything else is vfp | 19:48 |
| zeq_laptop | any idea how it interacts with the context switch buffer flush hit? | 19:48 |
| zeq_laptop | (from the thumb bug workaround) | 19:49 |
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| freemangordon | should not be affected by it AIUI, it is BTB that is flushed | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | and that should have nothing to do with neon state | 19:50 |
| zeq_laptop | I still would rather see some benchmarks than reach premature conclusions | 19:50 |
| freemangordon | or think a while that neon shares the same registers/execution pipeline with vfp | 19:50 |
| zeq_laptop | how much is vfp really used though? what's going to be running fp heavy? serious question | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | hildon? | 19:52 |
| zeq_laptop | that's easy enough to NEONize though | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | all transitions are calculated using doubles | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | (and not floats ;) ) | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | NFC how is that compiled | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | but suspect it is vfp | 19:53 |
| zeq_laptop | yeah, that's a complication | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | there is even a proposed patch for hildon-desctop replacina all sin/cos, etc with fsin,fcos, and doubles with floats | 19:55 |
| zeq_laptop | is a double really necessary for that? | 19:55 |
| zeq_laptop | indeed | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | didn't make it in CSSU, don't ask me why | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | should not be really needed | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | I mean double precision. | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | But having in mind there is libclutter used, which is double precision, I wonder how much the gain will be | 19:56 |
| zeq_laptop | worth testing I'd have thought | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | well, join CSSU team then | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | BTW for how long do you have your n900? | 19:58 |
| zeq_laptop | ~1.5 years | 19:58 |
| zeq_laptop | 3rd N900 actually (USB) | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | hmm, why it took you so long to join the fun? Or I am missing something | 19:59 |
| zeq_laptop | you're not missing anything | 19:59 |
| zeq_laptop | I was busy with Gentoo | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 19:59 |
| zeq_laptop | only so many hours in a day | 20:00 |
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| freemangordon | yeah, I know :) | 20:00 |
| freemangordon | hmm, that looks better "Mem: 2061488 1759064 302424" | 20:01 |
| zeq_laptop | I really should have become a full Gentoo Dev, but never took the test. | 20:02 |
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| zeq_laptop | I didn't see the need since I could fix things through bugzilla, and overlays, but lately fixes never seem to make their way from the bugzilla. | 20:03 |
| zeq_laptop | OT though | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: I was not joking about CSSU, we really need more devs there, think about it | 20:04 |
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| freemangordon | and have in mind the real fun is starting now, as I see it | 20:05 |
| zeq_laptop | Really need to brush up on my Debain-fu | 20:05 |
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| zeq_laptop | I agree, although I'm somewhat concerned about divergence from mer | 20:06 |
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| freemangordon | well, SB and git is a piece of cake, I am not linux developer only(because of my job), n900 was my first contact with debian, my knowledge was on fedora | 20:07 |
| zeq_laptop | git is no problem, and I'm getting the hang of SB | 20:07 |
| zeq_laptop | I just forgot a lot about Debain packaging over the years | 20:08 |
| zeq_laptop | like the various patch systems | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | well, to be honest all of the packages I saw because of n900 have different debian/rules :D | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | and it seems only quilt is used | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | anyway, it is up to you, but feel welcomed | 20:09 |
| zeq_laptop | I read earlier that quilt is now integrated in format3 rules | 20:10 |
| freemangordon | (hmm, welcomed? is there such a word in english?) | 20:10 |
| zeq_laptop | thanks, I probably will :) | 20:10 |
| zeq_laptop | yes | 20:10 |
| freemangordon | aah, thanks | 20:10 |
| zeq_laptop | but not that usage ;) | 20:10 |
| zeq_laptop | only kidding | 20:10 |
| freemangordon | :D | 20:10 |
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| zeq_laptop | you should feel welcome to join/or welcomed aboard | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | aaah, yeah, thanks | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | hmm, still not hitting swap, thats good | 20:12 |
| zeq_laptop | more more errors in config.log? | 20:13 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: BTW have in mind kernel-cssu which is currently a dependency (i.e. is installed on your n900) has a bug | 20:13 |
| zeq_laptop | oh? | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | thumb-2 related, there is a newer version in the repo, but it breaks mp-fremantle-community-pr | 20:14 |
| zeq_laptop | I should wait then? | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | I am wating to see if X crashes are really fixed before making a new release | 20:14 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: well, most probably no, the bug is: when a thumb2-compiled signal handler is called, it is possible some fun things to happen | 20:15 |
| zeq_laptop | like corruption? | 20:16 |
| freemangordon | like whatever you can imagine if first 1-4 instructions of the functions are not executed :D | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | *function | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | i.e. signal handler | 20:17 |
| zeq_laptop | LOL | 20:17 |
| zeq_laptop | that's not good! | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | who said it is | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | the good think is there is a fix | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | and I compiled a kernel with that fix | 20:18 |
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| freemangordon | so far it seems pretty OK, running on my primary device (the only phone I am using) | 20:18 |
| freemangordon | WTF? | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | "/home/maemo/workspace/tmp/fennec-14.0b7/mozilla-beta/dom/system/unix/QTMLocationProvider.h:40:34: fatal error: QGeoPositionInfoSource: No such file or directory" | 20:19 |
| zeq_laptop | I'm running the version with the bug on my primary device, it's obiously not hit too often | 20:19 |
| zeq_laptop | fun | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | do you hit it at all? | 20:19 |
| zeq_laptop | not yet | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | yeah, that is a tricky one | 20:19 |
| zeq_laptop | although I'm cooking dinner atm and on battery which slows the laptop down | 20:20 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: http://git.et.redhat.com/?p=kernel-kraxel.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=d71e1352e240dea32d481ad8d662e8de4406ac7e | 20:20 |
| zeq_laptop | (BIOS override with media bay battery - don't ask) | 20:20 |
| freemangordon | That is the kernel bug I hit when thumb-compiled X | 20:21 |
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| freemangordon | nice, isn't it :) | 20:22 |
| zeq_laptop | our kernel's that old now...? | 20:22 |
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| zeq_laptop | :( | 20:22 |
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| freemangordon | well, there are lots of backports | 20:22 |
| zeq_laptop | I forgot how old it is | 20:22 |
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| zeq_laptop | even more backports in KP/CSSU | 20:23 |
| zeq_laptop | but still | 20:23 |
| freemangordon | this IS KP | 20:23 |
| zeq_laptop | yes, I know | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | v -pre51 | 20:24 |
| zeq_laptop | I just meant that even though the kernel has a lot of backported fixes, it's still a very old kernel by now | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but there is no better option for fremantle so far | 20:25 |
| zeq_laptop | some fixes get missed | 20:25 |
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| zeq_laptop | is there any plan to eventually transition to mer+hildon? | 20:26 |
| zeq_laptop | or is there not sufficient coverage of non-distributable binaries for a fully functional device? | 20:27 |
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| freemangordon | none afaik. And TBH there are still too many pieces missing | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: GF came, have to go :) | 20:27 |
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| freemangordon | happy fennec-building | 20:27 |
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| zeq_laptop | okay see you later | 20:28 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: when you get back, I've determined the reason for the build failure: QTDIR is unset which results in various paths being from "/" instead of "/usr", specificly in the case of the build failure: $QTDIR/include/QtLocation | 21:09 |
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| freemangordon | zeq_laptop: I am semi-back, but thanks. Anyway I won't have time today to continue fennec building, hope you succeed | 21:54 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: that's no problem, thanks for your help with it so far. Hit the next failure now; no QFeedbackEffect | 22:02 |
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| zeq_laptop | freemangordon: It does need at least qtm-11 for QtFeedback, but qtm-11-dev doesn't install the pkgconfig files. | 22:24 |
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| kaizerslawten | Hello Guys | 23:18 |
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| Raimu | freemangordon: Why's the new kernel break the mp? | 23:40 |
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