IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2012-05-22

DocScrutinizer51	yw	00:00
merlin1991	just spent 3 hours swapping a laptop display	00:01
merlin1991	fun times :D	00:01
DocScrutinizer51	just spent 3 ours cursing and swearing	00:02
DocScrutinizer51	as I lost my EC card	00:02
DocScrutinizer51	real fun times	00:02
merlin1991	well I cursed a lot too	00:02
merlin1991	first time the display cbale wasnt in properly	00:02
merlin1991	then I didn't put in the keyboard properly	00:02
merlin1991	:D	00:03
DocScrutinizer51	yesterday I started to rip N9	00:03
DocScrutinizer51	after watching some semi official youtube	00:04
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DocScrutinizer51	that suggests to 'do not re-use! discard!' half the phone	00:05
DocScrutinizer51	I stopped that	00:05
DocScrutinizer51	lol	00:05
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Estel_	DocScrutinizer, those "do not use" iss bullshit	00:06
Estel_	they say it about everything, from camera module to screws	00:06
DocScrutinizer51	aemi	00:06
DocScrutinizer51	semi	00:06
Estel_	same apply for "official" instructions for N900	00:06
Estel_	just use common sense as sharpest tool ;)	00:07
DocScrutinizer51	yep	00:07
DocScrutinizer51	instructions are for shops to ensure customers get 'like new' quality	00:08
MrPingu_	Indeed, they say not to use these screws again	00:08
MrPingu_	Btw, evening sirs	00:09
Estel_	hi MrPingu	00:09
Estel_	hey, experts, little question here again :P	00:09
Estel_	take look at this please:	00:09
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?15f3715baa9167de#wEO/AFX/OSRy+Pxue+sXooVRrWqxbpFdpTr+qRYPBTg=	00:09
Estel_	I would like to scavenge this code, although, change it in a way	00:10
Estel_	that I first source config file, where main swap and backup swap is defined	00:10
Estel_	and then, instead of searching microsd for swap type partition, like in original code	00:10
Estel_	I would like it to check if main swap (as defined in config) is available, and in other case, enable backup swap	00:11
Estel_	(reasons for main swap being unavailable main be lack of microSD card, or corrupted, or whatever)	00:11
Estel_	any idea how to achieve that?	00:11
Estel_	by experts I mean DocScrutinizer, merlin1991 or anyone interested and able to help ;)	00:12
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DocScrutinizer51	n900 here	00:13
DocScrutinizer51	no way I'll check that now	00:13
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DocScrutinizer51	I'd guess blkinfo or what it's called is your friend	00:15
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merlin1991	but invoke it with the flash cache command or you'll have real fun	00:16
DocScrutinizer51	blkid	00:16
DocScrutinizer51	merlin1991: ??	00:17
DocScrutinizer51	sznc?	00:17
DocScrutinizer51	sync?	00:17
merlin1991	blikid -g	00:17
merlin1991	err blkid -g	00:17
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merlin1991	otherwise he can have swap partitions that are long gone	00:18
DocScrutinizer51	yup	00:18
DocScrutinizer51	:-)	00:18
MrPingu_	merlin1991 : What other gst packages do you have? From what I found of googling I miss libgstximagesrc.so so I might miss a whole package? :P	00:19
merlin1991	MrPingu_: I only ever used tha todo screenshots	00:19
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merlin1991	but there's the package load-applet-xiamgewsrc	00:21
merlin1991	might contain what you want	00:21
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MrPingu_	I installed gst-tools, earlier today thank you for that but all pipes are giving me the following error: No element "ximagesrc". Using the commands from the link you gave	00:23
MrPingu_	Will look at it ;)	00:23
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Estel_	DocScrutinizer, merlin1991, thanks.	00:30
Estel_	blkid -g gives me nothing, though	00:30
Estel_	only blkid alone gives me results	00:30
merlin1991	you need to run blkid -g && blkid	00:30
merlin1991	blkid -g only does the garbage collection, but does not display anyhting	00:31
merlin1991	lulzworthy	00:31
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Estel_	I see, sorry	00:32
Estel_	I think I'm a little tired :P	00:32
Estel_	preparing first 100% own package in life for last few hours :P	00:32
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Estel_	merlin1991, this line in original script:	00:39
Estel_	swapmicro=$(echo "$drivelist" -n \| grep Id=82 \| awk '/mmcblk1/ {print $1}')	00:39
Estel_	says, in human language	00:39
Estel_	"grep some value from drivelist output, and put it as value for swapmicro. Otherwise, leave swapmicro empty	00:40
Estel_	later we have:	00:40
Estel_	if [ "$swapmicro" ]; then	00:40
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Estel_	which is either true if swapmicro got assigned proper value	00:41
Estel_	or false, if not	00:41
merlin1991	so where's your problem? :D	00:41
Estel_	I would like to rephrase first mentioned line to do blkid -g && blkid and to grep location of swap	00:41
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Estel_	I would like to rephrase first mentioned line to do blkid -g && blkid and to grep location of swap	00:42
Estel_	(definedd earlier)	00:42
Estel_	or to leave it empty	00:42
Estel_	which would make 2nd line false	00:42
Estel_	for the life of me I can't get it working properly	00:42
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Estel_	any ideas how that line should like, i.e. what instead of:	00:42
Estel_	swapmicro=$(echo "$drivelist" -n \| grep Id=82 \| awk '/mmcblk1/ {print $1}')	00:43
Estel_	having example line, would make it easier for me to learn...	00:43
Estel_	forgive that I'm asking probably easy things	00:44
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Estel_	lets say I've, from sourced config file, a declaration: swap0=/dev/mmcblk1p2	00:45
merlin1991	swapmicro=$(blkid -g && blkid \| grep mmcblk1.*swap \| awk 'print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)')	00:45
Estel_	oh god	00:45
Estel_	so I make it:	00:45
merlin1991	that should find the first swap on an sd card	00:45
Estel_	yea, but I must set it to explicitly use swap provided via config	00:46
MrPingu_	What are you cooking, Estel_ ?	00:46
Estel_	i.e. I got declaration swap0=/dev/mmcblk1p2	00:46
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merlin1991	that's even easier	00:46
Estel_	MrPingu, solution for fool-proof anti-swap fragmentation	00:47
Estel_	almost finished, merlin1991 is very kind to help me with hardest part, a script that will adjust people's rcS-late to enable proper swap on boot, or go failsafe to backup swap	00:47
MrPingu_	sounds for me, I was/am too lazy to search/make swap refresh script :P	00:48
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Estel_	swapmicro=$(blkid -g && blkid \| grep $swap0.*swap \| awk 'print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)')	00:48
Estel_	???	00:48
merlin1991	that sounds about right	00:48
MrPingu_	Stil using the event.d method :P	00:48
Estel_	merlin1991, as I don't understand this line fully: doesn't it still search for first swap on microsd unnecessary?	00:49
merlin1991	only that it doesn't work xD	00:49
Estel_	:P	00:49
* merlin1991 investigates		00:49
merlin1991	ah yeah blkid -g must move one line up	00:50
Estel_	remember that I've put $swap0 there, which is earlier declared as, for example, /dev/mmcblk1p2	00:50
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merlin1991	swapmicro=$(blkid \| grep $swap0.*swap \| awk '{print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)}')	00:56
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merlin1991	hm still not valid	00:56
merlin1991	ffs	00:56
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Estel_	huge thank You! so, I need to put blkid -g a line above?	00:56
Estel_	hm	00:56
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merlin1991	ah wait it works	00:57
merlin1991	I'm only the master of pastefile	00:57
merlin1991	and yeah blkid -g a line above	00:57
Estel_	;)	00:57
merlin1991	s/pastefile/pastefail/	00:57
Hurrian	Estel_?	00:57
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Estel_	Hurrian, this example of rcsFlate editing to contain failsafe swap enabling is Your work, or from something else?	00:58
Estel_	I would like to give proper credits	00:58
Estel_	merlin1991, so, now, if I put on next line:	00:59
Estel_	if [ "$swapmicro" ]; then	00:59
Hurrian	it's from the swapmicro script, lemme google the author (another guy on tmo)	00:59
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Estel_	it will be "dev/mmcblk1p2" as $swapmicro	00:59
Estel_	if it exist	00:59
Estel_	or false?	00:59
merlin1991	/dev/mmcblk1p2	00:59
Estel_	yes, sorry forget initial /	01:00
merlin1991	the awk line is to strip the : from the output	01:00
Estel_	ah, I see	01:00
merlin1991	(err pipe not line)	01:00
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MrPingu	Yay, I fixed the gst-tools ;)	01:00
Estel_	later I have "else", that enables backup swap	01:01
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merlin1991	btw I'd even use swapmicro=$(blkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" \| awk '{print sub	01:01
merlin1991	str($1, 1, length($1) -1)}')	01:01
Estel_	huge thanks merlin1991, really	01:01
Estel_	hm?	01:02
Hurrian	Estel_ : http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=846082&postcount=84	01:02
merlin1991	otherwise you could end up trying to swap on a partitions that has the genious label of swap but not the type :D	01:02
MrPingu	What I did was enabling SDK and TOOLS repo pull plugins-good-extra	01:02
Estel_	:D	01:02
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MrPingu	Thanks for the help merlin1991 ;)	01:02
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merlin1991	err, yes :D	01:02
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merlin1991	fsckd putty	01:02
merlin1991	was supposed to be swapmicro=$(blkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" \| awk '{print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)}')	01:03
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Estel_	I'm using it with pleasure :)	01:04
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Estel_	soon I should have it finished, will try to upload into -devel...	01:04
merlin1991	also I wouldn't do a simple if [ $swapmicro ] but if [ -n $swapmicro ]	01:05
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Estel_	right, ok.	01:05
merlin1991	it's safer to check against non zero length than implicit "false"	01:05
* Estel_ nods		01:05
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MrPingu	I won't mind testing, as soon as you packaged and uploaded it, Estel_	01:06
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merlin1991	MrPingu: so when can we see the result of your work? :D	01:06
Estel_	Hurrian, thanks	01:07
Estel_	MrPingu, also thanks ;)	01:07
DocScrutinizer	Estel_: you're tired? I got BSE - o my brain transmuted to extremely concentrated vacuum	01:08
Estel_	:P	01:08
Hurrian	Estel_, are you pushing it as a replacement rcS-late?	01:08
Estel_	no, just as set of script for swap refreshing purposes, which also take user configurable swap locations and adjust rcs-late accordingly	01:08
Hurrian	ah	01:08
Hurrian	alright	01:08
Estel_	so, it's kinda multitool ;)	01:09
MrPingu	As soon as I got a proper vid of cleven and faircrack and like ;)	01:09
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DocScrutinizer	pondering about this shitty vendor machine is built in a way to make fools with bse forget their credit card, since it offers the goods before you remove the card. Pondering still when I was 20m away from machine. 3h later I noticed I forgot my credit card	01:10
Estel_	in fact I've also developed small notification system that iform user about success, or, in case of failure, report about exact step that failed	01:10
Estel_	via maemo notification system	01:10
DocScrutinizer	I expect a ROTFL at very least	01:10
Estel_	DocScrutinizer, was about to write lol	01:11
Estel_	;)	01:11
Estel_	but I suspect it's big problem for You	01:11
merlin1991	well dunno I suppose it's more annoying than a real problem	01:11
merlin1991	you have to lock the fsckd card and get a new one	01:11
Estel_	ah, now I know why bank machines want me to take card first	01:11
merlin1991	and pay a lil for that	01:11
Estel_	:P	01:12
DocScrutinizer	it's big problem not for the card but for my infallibly accurate brain rotting to pile of crap with this job	01:13
DocScrutinizer	last time something like this happened to me was 15 years ago, on Valium which my doc thought was a good prescription against my stomach problems	01:14
GeneralAntilles	Hooray, brain rot!	01:15
* GeneralAntilles drools.		01:15
DocScrutinizer	card been locked since 4h now	01:15
MrPingu	I will post a YT link here, for sure ;) Anyway it can take some weeks as I actually have exams and go on holiday with classmates directly after :P	01:15
GNUtoo-desktop	ok	01:16
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DocScrutinizer	btw the lock phone call voice machine is such a fucktard as well, I already was about to power up my MTHELs	01:16
DocScrutinizer	+49911116116	01:17
DocScrutinizer	FSCKU	01:17
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DocScrutinizer	I buolt better voice mailboxes 20 years ago	01:18
DocScrutinizer	built*	01:18
merlin1991	reminds me of the day my server @ 1and1 went down	01:18
merlin1991	phone system was totally fsckd	01:18
DocScrutinizer	1&1 NUUUUUUKE°!	01:18
merlin1991	I ended up in sales on the technical support hotline	01:19
GeneralAntilles	DocScrutinizer, tell them to get off your lawn.	01:19
merlin1991	DocScrutinizer: nuked them quickly after that, now with hetzner :)	01:19
Estel_	merlin1991, look at:http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?d5c04fea4770a39c#GwkIL3tpY+hOMrFyP8ouZBGYsUb4srSo2VePMNOsGs4=	01:19
DocScrutinizer	hetzner better	01:19
Estel_	please	01:19
Estel_	it doesnt work	01:19
Estel_	I'm also pastefail?	01:19
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DocScrutinizer	Estel_: bracket arguments into '	01:20
DocScrutinizer	err, not for args with $env	01:21
DocScrutinizer	yayayay	01:22
DocScrutinizer	t900:/usr/sbin# blkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" \| awk '{print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)}'	01:22
DocScrutinizer	/dev/mmcblk0p3	01:22
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DocScrutinizer	NB I haven't defined $swap0 before	01:23
DocScrutinizer	t900:/usr/sbin# swap0=/dev/mmcblk1p3	01:25
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DocScrutinizer	t900:/usr/sbin# blkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" \| awk '{print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)}'	01:25
DocScrutinizer	t900:/usr/sbin#	01:25
MrPingu	reminded me of closing an internet connection of my passed away aunt, you were always put in wait. Then I called the customer support : I want to buy "something" and directly I got a real man at the other end.	01:26
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DocScrutinizer	Estel_: maybe your "script" (sorry for ") works perfectly, just the system doesn't do what you expect it to do	01:26
merlin1991	why the fuck does the -n check succed even when the string is a zero string	01:26
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Estel_	oh god, I've stepped on nail left by my son on floor (part of toy with hammer)	01:27
DocScrutinizer	jr@halley:~> help [	01:27
Estel_	my roon is like bloodbath now	01:27
Hurrian	ouch.	01:27
DocScrutinizer	This is a synonym for the "test" builtin, bu	01:27
Estel_	s/roon/room/	01:27
infobot	Estel_ meant: my room is like bloodbath now	01:27
DocScrutinizer	PUNX RULE	01:28
merlin1991	DocScrutinizer: any particular reason why a if [ -n $something ] would be true when $something = "" ?	01:29
Estel_	DocScrutinizer, this is not script, it's snippet from main script	01:29
DocScrutinizer	-n STRING	01:29
DocScrutinizer	STRING True if string is not empty.	01:29
Estel_	I pasted it just for fix purposes, whole tool is much more complicated	01:29
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merlin1991	DocScrutinizer: by "" I mean string but empty	01:30
DocScrutinizer	yay, complicificatificated for the winning	01:30
Estel_	merlin1991, another problem is that after executing it I haven't good swap prompt that device is invalid	01:30
DocScrutinizer	merlin1991: I'm just c&p quoting	01:30
Estel_	but swap usage screen	01:30
Estel_	ah	01:30
Estel_	cause it's empty	01:30
DocScrutinizer	consider non-printable	01:30
Estel_	so it used empty	01:30
* merlin1991 rewrites awk part		01:31
Estel_	so there is another problem too - I actually have /dev/mmcblk1p3	01:31
Estel_	so why it was empty anyway?	01:31
Estel_	blkid list it too	01:31
merlin1991	Estel_: for me it works when I have the partition	01:31
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merlin1991	but it also does a false positive when I don'T have it	01:32
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DocScrutinizer	/sbin/swapon $(grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" \| awk '{print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)}') ) \|\| swapon /dev/mmcblk0p7	01:33
merlin1991	DocScrutinizer: consider http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?9083b5a04c9dcf29#jrRTQiNpgT/QzFdHeT1+tUreMuCD5nJgQLCEtMemrUk=	01:33
DocScrutinizer	beat that	01:33
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merlin1991	for some reason I always end up in the "yes" tree	01:34
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merlin1991	arf	01:34
merlin1991	stupid term	01:34
merlin1991	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?35f7fb495a6af862#ENYcrbkOaa9WTWHmS6dubJgokvOOHobmPKb1c8MVTkQ=	01:34
DocScrutinizer	echo ">>$swapmicro<<" $(echo $swapmicro\|od)	01:35
merlin1991	0000000 000012 0000001	01:36
merlin1991	dafuq?	01:36
DocScrutinizer	toldya ;-P	01:36
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* merlin1991 wonders wft that is		01:36
DocScrutinizer	utf8?	01:36
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DocScrutinizer	don't trust blkid	01:37
merlin1991	nah it's awk	01:37
merlin1991	fu awk	01:37
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DocScrutinizer	lol, not awk	01:37
DocScrutinizer	MESSYBOX!!!	01:37
merlin1991	hm not awk aswell	01:37
merlin1991	but messybox somewhere	01:37
DocScrutinizer	honestly, make better regex!	01:38
merlin1991	heh why? :D	01:38
Estel_	erm, I'm here but in listening mode	01:38
DocScrutinizer	"$\/dev\/mmcblk[0-9]p[0-9]$"	01:39
teotwaki_	mwhahahaha	01:39
merlin1991	that makes no sense	01:39
merlin1991	that would match anything again	01:39
merlin1991	but I want to find the line that has preset /dev node and is swap	01:40
merlin1991	otherwise discard all	01:40
teotwaki_	on some inventor programme, some dude came round, showing off a prototype of a gaussian canon	01:40
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teotwaki_	and went "I can make a perpetual movement machine with this, free energy, woo"	01:40
teotwaki_	everytime anyone asked a question, he went "Look at the shiny ball, it's attracted by magnets, look, it moves by itself"	01:40
DocScrutinizer	what does (grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" \| awk '{print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)} ?	01:41
teotwaki_	and they all went wild.	01:41
teotwaki_	how fucking retarded do you have to be.	01:41
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DocScrutinizer	awk '{print substr($1, 1, length($1) -1)} gets you any shitee that blkid might spew out	01:42
teotwaki_	people having a hard time with regexp? Need help?	01:42
merlin1991	check blkid output against devnode in $swap0 + the type of swap and get rid of the : in the blkid output since I was lazy to write a better echo $swap0 if found solution :D	01:42
DocScrutinizer	teotwaki_: ME? nope!	01:42
teotwaki_	not you, I know :)	01:43
merlin1991	hm I could use the return code of grep instead of that silly solution	01:44
teotwaki_	merlin1991: what are you trying to achieve?	01:45
merlin1991	madness	01:45
merlin1991	;)	01:45
teotwaki_	sparta?	01:45
merlin1991	nah I'm htere I think	01:45
* DocScrutinizer throws some Haloperidol pills into channel - madness for everybody		01:46
merlin1991	this is getting silly	01:46
DocScrutinizer	indeed	01:46
teotwaki_	merlin1991: just explain your problem.	01:46
DocScrutinizer	I'm extremely silly today	01:46
merlin1991	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?a5530899c8625f49#pZeeI7ZulBKoRo8yatvq/S95sthp1ma7GcdmtjHOM3M=	01:46
merlin1991	and still the bloody utf header in $swapmicro :D	01:46
DocScrutinizer	LOL	01:46
teotwaki_	I don't have a device at the ready	01:47
teotwaki_	so don't know what that does -- walk me through it	01:47
merlin1991	teotwaki_: basically Idefine a devnode	01:47
teotwaki_	aye	01:47
merlin1991	then use the blkid to get all valid partitions with types and whatnot	01:47
teotwaki_	ok	01:47
merlin1991	grep for the devnode I want, under the condiditon that it is swap	01:47
merlin1991	and if yes it should swap otherwise use the fallback	01:48
DocScrutinizer	blkid\|od -xc	01:48
merlin1991	DocScrutinizer: echo $whyistihishappening \| od	01:49
merlin1991	-> 0000000 005077	01:49
merlin1991	0000002	01:49
teotwaki_	blkid \| grep "$swap0.*TYPE=.swap." && swapmicro=$swap0	01:49
DocScrutinizer	0780922907318931709^4275^ß839	01:49
* DocScrutinizer kicks himself		01:50
teotwaki_	if [ -n "${swapmicro}" ]	01:50
DocScrutinizer	echo -n "${swapmicro}"\|od -xc	01:50
teotwaki_	or	01:51
teotwaki_	blkid \| grep "$swap0.*TYPE=.swap."	01:51
* DocScrutinizer blames messybox, as it's always OK to do that		01:51
teotwaki_	if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then swapmicro="$swap0"	01:52
teotwaki_	; fi	01:52
DocScrutinizer	indeed	01:52
merlin1991	teotwaki_: thanks for the -n "$something"	01:52
merlin1991	:)	01:52
DocScrutinizer	if terse form doesn't work, get verbose!	01:52
merlin1991	avoids messybox, yay	01:52
* DocScrutinizer hates terse code		01:53
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DocScrutinizer	especially those c wankers who think it's cute to pack 7 'normal' lines of code into one statement	01:54
merlin1991	Estel_: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?c77ddc4d9e0ae234#WdfCcHYUz3Cs9E2npsUTWIhuBLiMrfz1CSpfDmtXOgs=	01:54
merlin1991	DocScrutinizer: ash evalueates left to right?	01:55
teotwaki_	or, if you want to get funky: if [ `blkid \| grep -c "$swap0.*TYPE=.swap."` -gt 0 ]; then echo $swap0 \| od; fi	01:55
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DocScrutinizer	merlin1991: usually r-t-l	01:55
Estel_	merlin1991, thanks	01:55
DocScrutinizer	at least for pipes etc	01:55
merlin1991	DocScrutinizer: that answer is not verbose enough for me :D	01:56
DocScrutinizer	a\|b\|c; c will get invoked first	01:56
teotwaki_	wut?	01:56
teotwaki_	how does that work, considering c gets fed the input of b?	01:56
DocScrutinizer	it's a fifo, dear teotwaki_	01:56
teotwaki_	?	01:57
merlin1991	well what I want to ask if the last line in my latest paste only runs the swapon $swap2 if the first bunch failed	01:57
merlin1991	or actually does other nasty things I didn't even think of :D	01:57
DocScrutinizer	t900:/usr/sbin# set -vx	01:57
DocScrutinizer	t900:/usr/sbin# date\|cat\|od	01:58
DocScrutinizer	date\|cat\|od	01:58
DocScrutinizer	+ cat	01:58
DocScrutinizer	+ od	01:58
DocScrutinizer	+ date	01:58
DocScrutinizer	0000000 072524 020145 060515 020171 031062 030040 035061 032060	01:58
DocScrutinizer	so not rtl either	01:58
DocScrutinizer	honestly nfc	01:58
DocScrutinizer	mid to outside?	01:58
merlin1991	Estel_: my last script seems to work	01:59
* merlin1991 hates messybox scripting		02:00
* DocScrutinizer hates messybox		02:00
DocScrutinizer	period	02:00
Estel_	I'm investigating it, don't think I'm such bastard to say thanks and go away after You, DocScrutinizer and teotwaki did such work :D	02:00
Estel_	In fact, I'm going to bless You ;)	02:01
Estel_	just testing it now in many situations	02:01
* DocScrutinizer headdesks a bit more - listens to remnants of what been a brain making funny noises		02:02
Estel_	it works perfectly, thanks a lot :D	02:05
Estel_	reallyp it saved my day :P	02:05
Estel_	+ I got moral satisfaction ;) that my problem wasn't so trivial to solve	02:06
Estel_	(joke)	02:06
Estel_	I'm going to integrate it now with rest... Only few long but working things with sed, and I'll have this bastard ready for -devel	02:06
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DocScrutinizer	honestly, for 'complicated multiline edits' use patch	02:07
DocScrutinizer	nm, patch: not found	02:07
teotwaki_	DocScrutinizer: interesting...	02:07
DocScrutinizer	F U messybox!	02:07
DocScrutinizer	teotwaki_: ????	02:08
merlin1991	hehe good old patch missing	02:08
teotwaki_	DocScrutinizer: cat, od, date	02:08
DocScrutinizer	interesting to watch me go insane, or what?	02:08
DocScrutinizer	aah	02:08
DocScrutinizer	indeed	02:08
DocScrutinizer	weird stuff	02:09
teotwaki_	$ echo "foo" \| grep foo	02:09
teotwaki_	+ echo foo	02:09
teotwaki_	+ grep --colour=auto foo	02:09
merlin1991	you probably remember our fun times in #maemo-ssu thining about how to patch conversations css :D	02:09
DocScrutinizer	maybe I do	02:09
DocScrutinizer	anyway logicals like &&, \|\| are stictly ltr	02:10
Estel_	exactly	02:10
Estel_	so	02:10
Estel_	as path is missing	02:10
DocScrutinizer	for pipes though things change sometimes	02:10
Estel_	can I use sed inside script with argument containing variables?	02:11
DocScrutinizer	sure	02:11
Estel_	I mean:	02:11
DocScrutinizer	it's shell expanding $env	02:11
DocScrutinizer	not sed	02:11
Estel_	variables inside sed argument will be properly filled, instead of thing replacing my line with $swap0	02:11
Estel_	:P	02:11
Estel_	I see	02:11
Estel_	a relief, I think	02:12
DocScrutinizer	shell expands everything except things 'enclosed in ticks'	02:12
teotwaki_	single quotes	02:12
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DocScrutinizer	Estel_: set -vx tells you the real invocation with parameters	02:13
DocScrutinizer	[2012-05-22 01:09:07] <teotwaki_> $ echo "foo" \| grep foo	02:13
DocScrutinizer	[2012-05-22 01:09:07] <teotwaki_> + echo foo	02:13
DocScrutinizer	[2012-05-22 01:09:07] <teotwaki_> + grep --colour=auto foo	02:13
Estel_	yea, of course	02:13
DocScrutinizer	obviously grep is an alias here	02:13
Estel_	sed -i "1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@" /etc/event.d/rcS-late	02:14
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Estel_	do You like this short command? :P	02:14
DocScrutinizer	no	02:14
Estel_	errors inside or just gustas et non discutante?	02:15
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DocScrutinizer	too drunk to focus on that mess ;-P	02:15
Estel_	:PPPPP	02:15
teotwaki_	anyway, I'm out	02:15
teotwaki_	'night people	02:15
DocScrutinizer	o/	02:16
Psi	does anyone know what impedance the n900 headphone out is designed to drive?	02:16
DocScrutinizer	Estel_: it has bugs as well	02:16
DocScrutinizer	unpaired "	02:16
DocScrutinizer	"Failed to enable paging partition."	02:16
DocScrutinizer	or	02:17
DocScrutinizer	"1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "	02:17
DocScrutinizer	or	02:17
DocScrutinizer	"@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@"	02:17
Estel_	I see, but wtf it doesngt work	02:17
Estel_	yea	02:18
Estel_	how to overcome it?	02:18
DocScrutinizer	escape the " inside	02:18
Estel_	by?	02:18
DocScrutinizer	\	02:18
Estel_	but but	02:19
Estel_	inside contain an escaped " already	02:19
Estel_	I mean	02:19
Estel_	TYPE=\"swap\"	02:19
DocScrutinizer	so what?	02:19
Estel_	it must get inside like that	02:19
Estel_	so how to distinguish it from my escaped "	02:20
DocScrutinizer	then use ' instead of " for the sed argument	02:20
DocScrutinizer	or even better, use $env	02:20
Estel_	sed -i '1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@' /etc/event.d/rcS-late	02:21
Estel_	like that	02:21
Estel_	ah, define argument as env	02:21
DocScrutinizer	yup	02:21
Estel_	like forsed=sed -i "1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@" /etc/event.d/rcS-late	02:21
Estel_	wrong	02:21
Estel_	forsed=1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@	02:22
Estel_	correct?	02:22
Estel_	then sed -i $forsed	02:22
Estel_	then sed -i $forsed /etc/event.d/rcS-late	02:22
Estel_	actually	02:22
DocScrutinizer	forsed='1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@'	02:22
Estel_	ah, shouldn't drop the '	02:23
Estel_	I understand	02:23
DocScrutinizer	or sth like that	02:23
DocScrutinizer	escaping is rather tricky on shell	02:23
Estel_	it its $env are the ' at beginning and end needed still, got ya	02:23
Estel_	s/got ya/got that/	02:23
infobot	Estel_ meant: it its $env are the ' at beginning and end needed still, got that	02:23
DocScrutinizer	discard 1!N;	02:24
DocScrutinizer	it confuses hell outa me	02:25
cehteh	mhm	02:25
DocScrutinizer	iscard leading whitespace	02:25
cehteh	busybox or bash?	02:26
DocScrutinizer	discard overly comprehensive matchstring, replace large parts by .*	02:26
DocScrutinizer	s@swapon -a.*@...	02:28
DocScrutinizer	err	02:28
Estel_	doesn't work	02:28
DocScrutinizer	s@/sbin/swapon -a.*@...	02:28
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DocScrutinizer	even	02:29
DocScrutinizer	s@ /sbin/swapon -a.@...	02:29
Estel_	why should I do that	02:29
Estel_	when I want to swapon only pre-defined backup swap	02:29
DocScrutinizer	readability	02:29
DocScrutinizer	/sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo .Failed to enable paging partition\..	02:30
DocScrutinizer	dot is a special symbol	02:30
DocScrutinizer	. matches one arbitrary char	02:31
DocScrutinizer	X* matches X and XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX	02:31
DocScrutinizer	.* matches everything	02:31
DocScrutinizer	\. matches a dot	02:32
DocScrutinizer	u? matches zero or one 'u'	02:33
DocScrutinizer	iirc	02:33
DocScrutinizer	I'm tired	02:33
DocScrutinizer	n8	02:33
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DocScrutinizer	Estel_: use a textfile and grep to test your regex	02:35
DocScrutinizer	then copy that regex to first half od sed s§<matchstring>§	02:36
DocScrutinizer	s/od/of/	02:36
infobot	DocScrutinizer meant: then copy that regex to first half of sed s§<matchstring>§	02:36
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Estel_	DocScrutinizer, thanks, although I don' understand 3/4 of what You're telling me	02:57
DocScrutinizer	ask	02:57
Estel_	sorry for dissaperance, got notification about new mail from modest and N900 just got into frozen state	02:57
DocScrutinizer	lol	02:57
Estel_	due to swap fragmentation, many shit opened, + fm radio	02:58
Estel_	interesingly enough, I was able to ssh	02:58
DocScrutinizer	~hail modest	02:58
* infobot bows down to modest and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"		02:58
Estel_	but N900 was only repeatedly turning keyboard lights on and off	02:58
Estel_	I killed radii, modest etc via ssh	02:58
Estel_	screen changed accordingly to taskbar, but no change	02:58
Estel_	enraged, I killed browserd with no effect	02:59
Estel_	waited a while, and due no change, killed - still via ssh - xorg	02:59
Estel_	to force proper shutdown :P	02:59
DocScrutinizer	hihi	02:59
Estel_	anyway	02:59
Estel_	erm, about ask, I'll start with semi-simple question:	02:59
DocScrutinizer	I'll start with semi-asshat answer: man 7 regex :-P	03:00
Estel_	:P	03:01
Estel_	will read it	03:01
Estel_	through	03:01
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?ead3931098e1bfa9#GZHCNnklBf2N8Fm2v0AeV5+st28zLC6jxoVcSBSA/Bc=	03:01
Estel_	why this shit doesn't work?	03:01
Estel_	command itself is ok, I mean sed	03:01
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Estel_	I want sed to insert my (merlin's ;) ) beautiful complicated commands into rcS-late	03:02
Estel_	orally or anally, no mater. but sed is driving me mad	03:02
DocScrutinizer	try sed -i "$forsed"	03:02
Estel_	as You can see by bullshit 'm writing	03:02
Estel_	dafuq?	03:02
Estel_	ah	03:03
Estel_	will try	03:03
Estel_	but it will make it sit inside "''"	03:03
Estel_	as forsed got ' at end and beginning	03:03
DocScrutinizer	no, it doesn't	03:03
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DocScrutinizer	I think	03:03
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DocScrutinizer	jr@halley:~> forsed='1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@'	03:04
DocScrutinizer	jr@halley:~> echo ">>$forsed<<"	03:05
DocScrutinizer	>>1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@<<	03:05
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DocScrutinizer	sorry, gotta sleep	03:05
Estel_	no problem, good night	03:06
Estel_	now it works but give fckd results	03:06
Estel_	inserts $swap0 instead of it's content	03:06
Estel_	+ do other weird shit	03:06
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Estel_	instead of replacing line, it makes it:	03:07
Estel_	blkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE="swap" /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition." /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition." /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2	03:08
Estel_	while effect should be:	03:08
Estel_	blkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon /dev/mmcblk1p2 \|\| /sbin/swapon /dev/mmcblk0p7	03:08
Estel_	blkid \| grep $/dev/mmcblk1p2*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon /dev/mmcblk1p2 \|\| /sbin/swapon /dev/mmcblk0p7	03:09
Estel_	in fact	03:09
Estel_	~kill sed	03:09
* infobot shoots a charged pseudograviton gun at sed		03:09
Estel_	merlin1991, You're probably asleep already?	03:10
DocScrutinizer	http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/abs-guide.pdf	03:10
DocScrutinizer	Estel_: shell expands, unless enclosed in ' '	03:11
merlin1991	Estel_: nah still here	03:11
Estel_	thanks godness. Oh, and DocScrutinizer is lunatic	03:11
DocScrutinizer	'$foo' -> $foo	03:11
DocScrutinizer	"$foo" -> bar	03:11
Estel_	so how to format this fckd sed command	03:12
Estel_	merlin1991, it gives me and DocScrutinizer headache	03:12
DocScrutinizer	foo="this ->\" is an doubletick"	03:12
Estel_	or just me, who knows	03:12
merlin1991	dunno I never did sed stuff so far :D	03:12
Estel_	:P	03:12
DocScrutinizer	echo $foo -> this " is an doubletick	03:13
Estel_	so how would You make script that find line in rcS-late and replace it with our beautiful work	03:13
Estel_	(i.e. script cooked earlier)	03:13
Estel_	DocScrutinizer, but inside script there is also escaped part required	03:14
Estel_	I'm just lost how to make sed interpret it properly	03:14
DocScrutinizer51	inside escapes escapes neewd to be escaped	03:14
DocScrutinizer51	lol	03:14
Estel_	0_o	03:14
Estel_	*TYPE=\"swap\"	03:14
Estel_	this part need to be passed to edited file	03:15
Estel_	not escaped	03:15
merlin1991	reminds me of how to regex match a \ in java	03:15
DocScrutinizer51	echo "\"\\\\""	03:15
merlin1991	Patter.Compile("\\\\"); <-- awesome stuff right there	03:15
Estel_	DocScrutinizer, wtf?	03:16
Estel_	forsed='1!N; s@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@'	03:16
Estel_	Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@'	03:16
Estel_	wtf	03:16
Estel_	sorry, wrong quote	03:16
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?c4e3aa202e012ba1#gh42uDO/Tt63XcVfUsHKexKkJvQMvWJ2cVcQITvKHR4=	03:17
Estel_	whats wrong with this	03:17
Estel_	i.e. should this shit should look	03:18
* Estel_ is head desking		03:18
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Estel_	I just must finish this shit today and upload madness	03:18
Estel_	i mean tonight :P	03:18
Estel_	then I can ~kill sed	03:18
DocScrutinizer51	WRONG approach	03:19
Estel_	probably, but no patch in busybox	03:19
DocScrutinizer51	if it gets tough today, ship next week	03:19
Estel_	ah, it's what You mean. Yea, I know	03:19
Estel_	but seriously, it's damn last thing before packaging :P	03:19
Estel_	literally last	03:20
DocScrutinizer51	nope	03:20
DocScrutinizer51	last thing is let it ripe 3 days, and some 2 friends test it	03:20
Estel_	need to package it before that	03:20
Estel_	packaging != repos	03:21
Estel_	would be silly to let it test 3 days then make bug while packaging	03:21
DocScrutinizer51	aure	03:21
Estel_	btw, I'm using main part for a year or so. it's just that fuckin one-time-run script that needs finishing	03:21
Estel_	it's all because I decided to make really easy to use package, without instruction to manually edit rcS-Late before use	03:22
Estel_	user just provide locations in config , and run one timer. It handles updating rcS-late	03:22
Estel_	then, You can eternally use what is main part of this package - well-tested rock solid scripts to refresh swap	03:23
Estel_	and of course this "small addition" to make rcS-late edit is driving me mad	03:23
Estel_	but, seriously, do You have idea how to fix that?	03:23
Estel_	(see last zerobin)	03:23
* Estel_ trying different approaches to fight with sed		03:27
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DocScrutinizer51	Estel_: it's definitely are questionable idea to edit rcS-*	03:32
Estel_	no problem, this package is also for that	03:33
Estel_	and doesn't do it automaticaly	03:33
Estel_	user can do it by hand if willing to or not do at all	03:33
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Estel_	(yet, many things wont work if not done)	03:33
Estel_	it just contain instruction to edit config file and run adjust-rcS-late.sh script only once	03:34
Estel_	I'll also add line writing counter from iostat to have info about data written to swap	03:35
Estel_	anyway, it's onlhy one sane approach to it	03:35
Estel_	other would be to use /event.d/ script	03:35
Estel_	but it would slow down boot	03:35
Estel_	as swap would be enabled by rcS-late	03:35
Estel_	then disabled and enabled (other) via scfript in event.d	03:35
Estel_	idiotic + time consuming	03:35
Estel_	btw I use rcS-late editing approach for ages it doesn't bring any problems	03:36
Estel_	if done correctly	03:37
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Estel_	and I swant to spare people bootlops due to typos while editing manualy	03:37
DocScrutinizer51	learn about upstart and sysV init. then better find a way that doesn't involve editing core initscripts	03:38
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DocScrutinizer51	insert a own inotscript that runs before rcS-late and edits fstab accordingly	03:39
DocScrutinizer51	add a script to undo swap mounting done by rc+-late	03:40
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DocScrutinizer51	editing core stuff is EVIL	03:40
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Estel_	honestly, something that mess with fstab just to cheat rcS-late is more EVIL	03:53
Estel_	if I have to choose between holy way editing script that got executed once on boot and then is just a file sitting on disk...	03:54
Estel_	...or fstab, on which many things could rely...	03:54
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Estel_	I preffer option 1	03:55
Estel_	anyway, fighting with sed goes better and better, I think I'm close to finding it	03:55
freemangordon	damn, there was an earthquake here :(	04:00
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Estel_	freemangordon, not fatal one I hope?	04:21
Estel_	sed -i \'$forsed\' /home/user/original-rcS-late	04:21
Estel_	sed: unsupported command '	04:21
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freemangordon	no, nothing serious, just a little frightening	04:21
Estel_	what the fuckin fuck?	04:21
Estel_	I see	04:21
Estel_	here= where?	04:22
freemangordon	5.6-6 or something	04:22
Estel_	not very light either	04:22
freemangordon	Sofia	04:22
Estel_	it apparently talks about \', because if i change it to \", it complains about unsupported command "	04:23
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Estel_	hm, should't Sofia be out of earthquakes zone?	04:23
Estel_	still, I've no idea how the fuck it interprets this ' as command, as without it, it complains about unmatched @ (content of $forsed)	04:24
Estel_	~kill sed	04:24
* infobot shoots a hyper-charged anti-photon gun at sed		04:24
Estel_	~kill sed	04:24
Estel_	~kill sed	04:24
* infobot shoots a hyper-charged anti-quark gun at sed		04:24
Estel_	~kill sed	04:24
Estel_	~kill sed	04:24
* infobot shoots a ionized proton gun at sed		04:24
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Estel_	why, ah why busybox doesn't contain "patch"	04:24
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Estel_	~suicude sed	04:25
Estel_	~die sed	04:25
* infobot murders sed, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless...		04:25
Estel_	~annihilate sed	04:25
* infobot bakes a cake and gives it to sed		04:25
Estel_	LOL	04:25
Estel_	I'm fighting with this shit for few hours already	04:26
Estel_	3 or 4	04:26
* Estel_ headdesk		04:26
Estel_	s/headdesk/headdesks	04:26
Estel_	s/headdesk/headdesks/	04:26
infobot	Estel_ meant: s/headdesks/headdesks	04:26
Estel_	fu	04:26
beford	hah	04:26
Estel_	no, seriously, I'm out of ideas	04:27
Estel_	how to make sed properly interpret:	04:27
Estel_	sed -i 's@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@' /etc/event.d/rcS-late	04:28
Estel_	I've properly escaped scapes inside escapes	04:29
Estel_	which gave me	04:29
Estel_	with usage of $env	04:29
Estel_	forsed="s@ /sbin/swapon \-a \|\| echo \"Failed to enable paging partition.\"@blkid \-g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\\\"swap\\\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@"	04:29
Estel_	sed -i \'$forsed\' /home/user/original-rcS-late	04:29
Estel_	...yet this unholy shit still doesn't work	04:29
Estel_	any idea, anyone? pleeease?	04:30
Estel_	~murder sed	04:30
* infobot shoots sed in his sleep		04:30
Estel_	~assasinate sed	04:31
Estel_	~rape sed	04:31
* infobot takes sed behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams		04:31
Estel_	~sodomize sed	04:31
Estel_	~seed sed	04:31
Estel_	no really. I'm out of today, this shit just ain't gonna work for now :(	04:32
Estel_	s/of/for/	04:32
infobot	Estel_ meant: no really. I'm out for today, this shit just ain't gonna work for now :(	04:32
beford	hold on	04:32
Estel_	?	04:32
beford	do you have the original file?	04:33
beford	i mean, pastebin it so I can see and give it a try	04:33
Estel_	I'm little angry, as it's last part of work needed to upload bigger package	04:33
Estel_	ok, but	04:33
Estel_	do You mean script	04:33
Estel_	or file to be edited	04:33
Estel_	by sed	04:33
beford	the file to be edited, and the line you wnat to change	04:33
beford	want*	04:33
Estel_	ok, pastebinning	04:33
Estel_	file to be edited	04:35
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?2c697dcc486362c1#G25BFmY3qhTXSyDCr1vbnYnf+3E70eumrD0bDnzKEXo=	04:35
Estel_	editing script (well, make shit version, as it's part of complex script set, normally)	04:37
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?24a1e04d862b42df#hRgaptuujC3WAviw/DIjNEuftrPmbATtGyPPD51ZNZ4=	04:37
Estel_	..and, finally, line to be editd and how it should look after edit:	04:38
beford	line 52	04:38
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?b1bf09d1dfcf58f9#R233nu+06ujjLg8dRINFkmwFvzL5oVSc2a8kH6PqOKg=	04:40
Estel_	yea, 52 to be edited	04:40
Estel_	and replaced by 2 lines	04:40
Estel_	already managed to get info about working multi-lining in sed etc...	04:40
beford	isn't it unsafe to edit system scripts though?	04:41
Estel_	last things is script that will read config file (i replacedd this by declaring values, in makeshift script) and modify rc$-late accordingly	04:41
Estel_	it's unsafe to make typos during edit	04:41
Estel_	although, I've almost finished program (set of scripts) mean't to easy refreshing of swap	04:42
Estel_	+ it allows to set arbitrary swaps on boot	04:42
Estel_	for both tasks editing rcS-late is necessary and wanted	04:42
Estel_	I want to save editing rcS-lated manually for end users	04:43
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Estel_	and prepare script that, once config if filled by user, will do it for them	04:43
beford	automagically yea	04:43
Estel_	would be trivial with patch, but patch isn't part of busybox	04:43
Estel_	not exactly automagically, user need explicitly invoke adjust-rcS-late.sh script ;)	04:44
Estel_	program manual and description in package manager will state to edit config and run script once	04:44
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Estel_	problem - can't force sed to work properly	04:44
Estel_	huge thanks if You manage to find it	04:45
Estel_	btw,set -xv bit is to show output in console, so You see shat actually is passed to sedd by sh	04:45
Estel_	many tricky things with " and \ that need to be escaped from shell or sed	04:45
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Estel_	(in order to get into file that's edited)	04:46
Estel_	thats why my current workshop version looks like that:	04:46
Estel_	...what You found in adjust-rcS-late that I've zerobin'ned before	04:46
Estel_	it almost work	04:46
Estel_	arguments are escaped correctly etc... just freaking sed is shitting about unsupported argument '	04:47
Estel_	if I replace \'$forsed\' with \"$forsed\"...	04:47
Estel_	it complains about "unsupported option "	04:48
Estel_	unsupported "	04:48
Estel_	so it's clearly related to \'$forsed\'	04:48
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Estel_	beford, hard times with sed, eh?	05:01
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* beford tries hard		05:03
* Estel_ too		05:05
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Estel_	I don't get whysed cares for content between @ @ @	05:10
Estel_	if it would think it's not proper syntax, it would complain for unmatched @	05:11
Estel_	yet, it doesn't so he knows it's command to sed	05:11
Estel_	so why he fuckin cares about inside?	05:11
Estel_	I must escape -a inside swapon -a	05:12
Estel_	or sed complains about unknown option a	05:12
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Estel_	but, if this shithead know that it's string for replace - and he know, as he don't complain about unmatched @ - why he keeps bitching about it?	05:12
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Estel_	after 5 hours of fighting with it I'm getting murderous instincts against sed and it's creators	05:13
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cehteh	heh	05:20
cehteh	sorry i am too tired else i may help :P	05:20
luke-jr	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/726501/recaptcha.png	05:21
cehteh	i must be some machine .. i almost never manage to deciper recaptchas	05:23
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Estel_	beford, how hacking this is going? failure here :(	05:42
Sc0rpius	what are we hacking?	05:42
Sc0rpius	did you fix your sed script?	05:44
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Estel_	Sc0rpius, nope	05:46
Estel_	sed is	05:46
Estel_	~murder sed	05:46
* infobot shoots sed in his sleep		05:46
Sc0rpius	sed is great	05:46
Estel_	yea?	05:46
Sc0rpius	let's see what you're doing wrong	05:46
Estel_	wanna change Your mind?	05:46
Estel_	thanks	05:46
Estel_	I'll send You zerobins	05:46
Sc0rpius	sed -i 's@ /sbin/swapon -a \|\| echo "Failed to enable paging partition."@blkid -g\nblkid \| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\"swap\" && /sbin/swapon $swap0 \|\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@'	05:47
Sc0rpius	that line doesn't work as you expect, right?	05:47
Estel_	file to be edited:	05:47
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?2c697dcc486362c1#G25BFmY3qhTXSyDCr1vbnYnf+3E70eumrD0bDnzKEXo=	05:47
Estel_	editing script (well, make shit version, as it's part of complex script set, normally):	05:47
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?24a1e04d862b42df#hRgaptuujC3WAviw/DIjNEuftrPmbATtGyPPD51ZNZ4=	05:47
Estel_	..and, finally, line to be editd and how it should look after edit:	05:47
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?b1bf09d1dfcf58f9#R233nu+06ujjLg8dRINFkmwFvzL5oVSc2a8kH6PqOKg=	05:48
beford	i thinkg i did it	05:48
beford	think	05:48
beford	xD	05:48
beford	not sure	05:48
Estel_	If You manage to fix it I'll call You sedking	05:48
Estel_	beford, dafuq?	05:48
Estel_	lemme check	05:48
Estel_	paste it please :D	05:48
Sc0rpius	ok let's see	05:48
beford	http://paste2.org/p/2031236	05:48
Estel_	beford, ommiting -i is necessary?	05:49
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Sc0rpius	it should add two lines?	05:50
beford	oh I ommited it to avoid having to restore the original file	05:50
beford	it should work anyway	05:50
Sc0rpius	replace swapon line for two lines?	05:50
* beford checks		05:50
Sc0rpius	your script works, you just need to scape \| and $ lemme show you:	05:51
Estel_	Sc0rpius, yea, two lines	05:52
Estel_	sorry I'm checking... hm?	05:52
beford	mine works with -s	05:52
beford	I mean -i	05:52
Estel_	scape \| and $?	05:52
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Sc0rpius	sed "s@/sbin/swapon \-a \|\| echo \"Failed to enable paging partition.\"@blkid \-g\n\tblkid \\| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\\\"swap\\\" \&\& /sbin/swapon \$swap0 \\|\\| /sbin/swapon \$swap2@" file	05:54
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Sc0rpius	that one works for me (file is your file).	05:54
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Estel_	beford, for some reason don't find necessary line, yet at least, doesn't throw errors	05:55
Estel_	Sc0rpius, lemme check...	05:55
Sc0rpius	check, it'll work	05:55
Estel_	I belive, I'm checking what was wrong, trying to learn	05:56
Sc0rpius	$things in the second part of the sed are variables	05:56
Sc0rpius	you didn't escape those	05:56
Sc0rpius	I can do things like this:	05:56
beford	I though he wanted to escape them?	05:56
beford	thought*	05:56
Estel_	right, see it	05:56
Sc0rpius	sed s/I'll print just this:(.*)+/$0/	05:56
beford	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?b1bf09d1dfcf58f9#R233nu+06ujjLg8dRINFkmwFvzL5oVSc2a8kH6PqOKg=	05:56
Estel_	Sc0rpius, huge thanks, but something is still wrong...	06:00
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Estel_	it doesn't replace anything	06:00
Sc0rpius	what OS are you using?	06:00
Estel_	or my file got fcked somehow	06:00
Estel_	Maemo :P	06:00
Estel_	doing everything on device	06:01
Estel_	I'll restore file from pastebin I've sent You	06:01
Estel_	maybe during trial and error I've failed to restore original content at some point	06:01
Estel_	I'm fighting with it for freaking 6 hours	06:01
Estel_	beford for 1,5 hour too :P	06:02
beford	it works here	06:02
beford	challenge solved	06:02
beford	xD	06:02
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beford	let me ssh to the n900 and check	06:02
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Sc0rpius	it works ok here with the file	06:03
Estel_	Sc0rpius, zerobin links give me - after pasting - output without new lines	06:04
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Estel_	could You please re send me my own file :P as my own link doesnt work for me?	06:04
Sc0rpius	yeah it sucks but there's a workaround	06:04
Sc0rpius	press Clone	06:04
Sc0rpius	and copy/paste from there	06:04
Estel_	lol	06:04
Estel_	thanks	06:04
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beford	wors on the n900 for me	06:06
Estel_	yea, it works! Sc0rpius and beford, You're my heroes ;)	06:06
Sc0rpius	if you want to be purist	06:06
Estel_	small glitch only - need more escaping on TYPE=/"swap/"	06:06
Estel_	?	06:06
Sc0rpius	you can replace \t for the blank spaces you need to be in the exact indentation	06:07
Estel_	but I'll manage	06:07
beford	yes	06:07
beford	more scaping	06:07
beford	http://pastie.org/3947969	06:07
Estel_	wait, wait, what \t	06:07
Sc0rpius	the script was a \n\t (a tab after the newline)	06:07
Estel_	I see	06:08
Estel_	yes yes	06:08
Sc0rpius	here: \n\tblkid	06:08
Estel_	found it	06:08
Sc0rpius	you can replace \t for several spaces so it's just below the previous line in perfect identantion	06:08
Estel_	and I can delete /t with exact number of spaces?	06:08
Estel_	\t is tab, yep?	06:08
Sc0rpius	yeah	06:08
Sc0rpius	but tab is 8 spaces	06:08
Sc0rpius	and you need 6	06:08
Estel_	I noticed small problem	06:09
Estel_	$swap2 is passed like that	06:09
Estel_	not it's value	06:10
Estel_	probably something easy will check that	06:10
beford	its being scaped	06:10
Sc0rpius	I thought you wanted literal $swap0 and $swap2	06:10
beford	remove \ before $	06:10
Sc0rpius	then they will be empty	06:10
beford	he had them defined on his script	06:11
Sc0rpius	because $swap0 and $swap2 will be sed variables not the outer script variables	06:11
Sc0rpius	oh and THAT'S a problem difficult to solve	06:11
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Estel_	Sc0rpius, maybe just	06:11
Sc0rpius	nah it will work.	06:11
Sc0rpius	it will work	06:11
Sc0rpius	I just tested it	06:11
Sc0rpius	export swap2="ANYTHING"	06:12
Estel_	create $forsed variable to feed sed	06:12
Sc0rpius	and then ran the script without the \ before the $	06:12
Sc0rpius	and it worked	06:12
Estel_	ok	06:12
Estel_	thanks...	06:12
Estel_	yetp why swap0 is properly translated	06:12
Estel_	and swap2 not?	06:12
Estel_	export should be just one line above sed?	06:12
Estel_	btw, why blkid \|\| grep works as blkid \\| grep	06:13
Estel_	i.e. one escape one pipe = two pipes as result?	06:13
Sc0rpius	heh that's funny	06:13
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Sc0rpius	use swap3 instead of swap0 and it will work	06:13
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Estel_	?!	06:14
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Sc0rpius	I have to look why a $variableendingin0 won't work	06:14
Sc0rpius	but it just don'	06:14
Sc0rpius	dont	06:14
Estel_	btw swap0 was translated properly only 1st time, 2nd time failed	06:14
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Estel_	look, on first place it replaced it with /dev/mmcblk1p2	06:14
Sc0rpius	oh	06:14
Sc0rpius	then just put a g at the end	06:14
Estel_	on second apperance it haven't	06:14
Estel_	hm?	06:15
Sc0rpius	sed "s@/sbin/swapon \-a \|\| echo \"Failed to enable paging partition.\"@blkid \-g\nblkid \\| grep $swap0.*TYPE=\\\\\"swap\\\\\" \&\& /sbin/swapon $swap3 \\|\\| /sbin/swapon $swap2@g"	06:15
Sc0rpius	see the g at the very end?	06:15
Estel_	yea	06:15
Estel_	what does it matter? haven't found it in docs	06:15
Sc0rpius	that will make process the line several times	06:15
Sc0rpius	it does!!	06:15
Estel_	oh	06:15
Estel_	I used wrong wording	06:15
Estel_	I mean't	06:16
Sc0rpius	so that's why swap0 wasn't working the second time.	06:16
Estel_	"what does it means"	06:16
Estel_	s/means/mean	06:16
Estel_	s/means/mean/	06:16
infobot	Estel_ meant: s/mean/mean	06:16
Estel_	of, whatever ;)	06:16
beford	g means global	06:16
Estel_	ok, I'll try...	06:16
Sc0rpius	yeah it means "Global replacement"	06:17
Sc0rpius	without it, it'll only replace the first occurrence of everything that matches	06:17
Sc0rpius	http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html#uh-6	06:17
Sc0rpius	now it works 100% ok :) (I just tested it)	06:18
Estel_	almost there... it's just that now scrpt never ends	06:19
Estel_	script*	06:19
Estel_	adjust-rcS-late, upon calling, is processing infinitely	06:19
Sc0rpius	well I'm not running your script just the sed line over the file	06:20
Estel_	Yea, suspected that	06:20
Estel_	somehow adding g	06:20
Estel_	made it run forever (and after killing, original file content isn't changed)	06:20
Estel_	any idea how to make it terminate properly?	06:20
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Estel_	false alarm, I'm just idiot	06:21
Estel_	(frankly, just tired)	06:21
Estel_	copied it without specifying file etc	06:21
Estel_	fixing	06:21
Sc0rpius	anyway IO'm wondering why you use -i	06:21
Sc0rpius	I'm	06:21
Sc0rpius	oh to replace the file	06:22
Sc0rpius	that's a dangerous option	06:22
beford	inplace edit yea	06:22
Sc0rpius	yeah	06:22
beford	well editing the file is dangerous	06:22
beford	:P	06:22
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Estel_	yea!	06:23
Sc0rpius	now tell me why are you doing all this in the first place	06:24
Estel_	just required micro fix for ammount of spaces and it works great!	06:24
Estel_	thanks a lot Sc0rpius, You're awesome, You know?	06:24
Estel_	and I agree sed is great	06:24
Sc0rpius	haha not really but I've been working with sed for a long time	06:24
Estel_	~apologise sed	06:24
Sc0rpius	and awk too	06:24
Sc0rpius	and sed+awk is a very powerful combination	06:25
Estel_	as for why I need it	06:25
Estel_	yea, but sometimes tricky	06:25
beford	I prefer perl <3	06:25
Sc0rpius	are you Piotr?	06:25
Estel_	I'm preparing package for repos, which contain... well, let me paste my description:	06:25
Estel_	yes :)	06:25
Sc0rpius	oh so you're running for the council	06:25
Estel_	yea	06:25
Sc0rpius	the results will be the day after tomorrow I guess	06:25
Sc0rpius	I should go back to my Whatsapp client for N900	06:26
beford	the java based?	06:26
Sc0rpius	no I'm making my own	06:26
Sc0rpius	Qt based	06:26
Sc0rpius	the project is fairly advanced	06:26
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Sc0rpius	but still not ready for people use	06:27
Estel_	hm, nice	06:27
Estel_	it sounds like quite huge task	06:27
Estel_	Sc0rpius, here is description of what I'm cooking	06:27
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?a024cb4a7357d82d#59rshwfdfjqUzPpYIwwfwG3MdeAsADMcBwOJD/Xamb0=	06:27
Sc0rpius	nope, it's actually pretty easy	06:27
Sc0rpius	the GUI is what makes me waste more time	06:27
* Sc0rpius clicks		06:27
Estel_	(not passed through text editor yet, may contain typos or nasty grammar)	06:27
Estel_	I though whatsapp is closed source so no way for proper port other than running java midlets	06:28
Sc0rpius	hmm so it disables and enables swap when it detects fragmentation	06:28
Sc0rpius	yeah it's closed source	06:28
Sc0rpius	you can always reverse it	06:28
Estel_	+ sets user defined swap to be enabled on boot or backup swap if first fail	06:28
Sc0rpius	that's what Wazzap did	06:29
Sc0rpius	and that's what I did too	06:29
Estel_	+, I'll add in a second 3th sed line (forget it) to save stats for counter	06:29
Sc0rpius	everything started when the guy that made the Java port said	06:29
Estel_	Sc0rpius, lol, nice	06:29
Estel_	?	06:29
Sc0rpius	"Java versions for S40 devices are not obfuscated"	06:29
Sc0rpius	and everybody went to decompile those versions	06:29
Estel_	haha	06:29
Sc0rpius	everybody tried before with the Android versions, that are extremely obfuscated, and pretty hard to reverse because of that	06:30
Sc0rpius	nobody ever thought the S40 versions were totally plain with no protection at all	06:30
Estel_	ah thats why sudden of nothing 7575 threads about whatsapp appeared	06:31
Estel_	on tmo...	06:31
Sc0rpius	yeah	06:31
Sc0rpius	and I'm sure I'm not the only making another one to add Wazzap a little pressure hehe	06:31
beford	webos needs a client too	06:32
Sc0rpius	who uses that?	06:32
beford	webos users ?	06:32
Estel_	I must admit I missed it as I was never interested in this program - but You're definitely goind to make many people happy.	06:32
beford	:P	06:32
Sc0rpius	I ported an app from Webos to Maemo	06:32
Sc0rpius	SplashID, because I really needed it	06:32
* Estel_ searchs for it on packages interface		06:33
Sc0rpius	heh it's not there	06:33
Estel_	btw, I need to add 3th line to sed:	06:33
Estel_	/usr/bin/iostat -md mmcblk1p2 \| grep mmcblk1p2 \| awk '{print $6}' >/root/reswap.stat	06:33
Sc0rpius	since that's pretty illegal I never submit it	06:33
Estel_	I hope I'll manage to do it now	06:33
Estel_	without stucking	06:34
Estel_	surely need to escape -md	06:34
Estel_	pipes	06:34
Sc0rpius	no	06:34
Estel_	?	06:34
Sc0rpius	but you need to space \$ and the \'	06:34
Sc0rpius	and maybe the \\|	06:34
Sc0rpius	I would do it just in case	06:34
Sc0rpius	s/space/scape	06:35
Sc0rpius	escape actually	06:35
Estel_	ok, proceeding	06:35
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Estel_	Sc0rpius, little question, if You don't mind	06:59
Estel_	is there a way to make sed find text matching pattern (wildcard) and replace it?	06:59
Estel_	for example, I would like him to find mmcblkp (mmcblk0-9p0-9) and replace it with fixed text	07:00
Estel_	wildcards are an option?	07:00
Sc0rpius	yeah sure	07:00
Estel_	s/mmcblkp/mmcblk1p2/ for example	07:01
Sc0rpius	that would be:	07:01
Estel_	not need for any special escaping, marking etc? ;)	07:01
Sc0rpius	s/mmcblk.p./mmcblk1p2/	07:01
Estel_	ah	07:01
Estel_	.*	07:01
Estel_	dot asterisk	07:01
Sc0rpius	or:	07:01
Sc0rpius	s/mmcblk[0-9]+p[0-9]+/mmcblk1p2/	07:01
Sc0rpius	[0-9]+: at least one digit (it could be several)	07:02
Sc0rpius	[0-9]*: none, or several digits	07:02
Estel_	thanks the latter is even better	07:02
Estel_	I doubt someone got more than 10 partitions, but still	07:02
Estel_	and .*: jus 1 digit?	07:03
Estel_	or at least 1?	07:03
Sc0rpius	* 0 or more matches of the previous regexp	07:03
Sc0rpius	+ 1 or more matches of the previous regexp	07:03
Sc0rpius	. = any char	07:03
Sc0rpius	so:	07:04
Sc0rpius	.+ = one character or more	07:04
Sc0rpius	.* = nothing or anything hehe (sounds weird)	07:04
Estel_	:)	07:04
Sc0rpius	a.*b would match ab, a1b, aaskdjfhakjb, etc.	07:04
Sc0rpius	a.+b would only match a1b, assdfsdfb	07:04
Sc0rpius	but no ab.	07:04
Estel_	and [0-9] is to limit it for digits	07:04
Estel_	instead of all alphanumeric	07:05
Sc0rpius	[0-9] one single digit from 0 to 9	07:05
Estel_	I got it.	07:05
Sc0rpius	[0-9]+ several digits	07:05
Estel_	[0-9]*nothing or any number of digits	07:05
Estel_	thank a lot, You got talent to explain things, surely.	07:06
Sc0rpius	exactly, you got it	07:06
Estel_	sorry for bothering You and taking out of developing ;)	07:06
Sc0rpius	it's ok, it's too hot for me to code tonight	07:06
Sc0rpius	27C	07:06
Sc0rpius	and no A/C in this room, only in the bedroom where TV is	07:07
Sc0rpius	so TV is calling hehe	07:07
Estel_	:) I got 28 too but only during day	07:09
Estel_	29 today expected	07:09
Estel_	but now it's quite pleasant morning (6:09 AM)	07:09
Sc0rpius	it's 11:41pm here, during the day it reaches 36C is crazy	07:11
Estel_	where it is, where do You live?	07:13
Estel_	btw, last question here - any way to make sed into replacing all occurenced of pattern	07:13
Estel_	not only first found?	07:13
Estel_	(I'm sure there is, and I promise to read whole manual tommorow, too tired to do it right now :P)	07:13
Sc0rpius	Caracas, Venezuela	07:14
Sc0rpius	g at the end will replace all occurrences	07:14
Estel_	ah, so temperatures are justified.	07:15
Sc0rpius	sed manual is pretty long	07:15
Estel_	thats why I'm asking now	07:15
Estel_	btw I'm on "far north", Poland	07:15
Sc0rpius	that's far	07:15
Sc0rpius	:)	07:15
Estel_	but it's just a little cooler ;)	07:15
Estel_	hm, so g replaced all occurences... why it helped us with $swap0/$swap2?	07:16
Estel_	first pattern was replaced @ first run	07:16
Estel_	so any another run shouldn't alter it	07:16
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Sc0rpius	it's weird	07:17
Sc0rpius	but it worked nonetheless	07:17
Estel_	yea :)	07:18
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Estel_	...and here is how file should look after operation:	08:12
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?c15cb8bf247c7a39#1QwS15G45PHlF8fuxzSc2alQoQIitGcBWO3UZUuw8s4=	08:12
Estel_	(just numbers modified on 5 place, normally script will take new values from config)	08:13
Estel_	Sc0rpius, if You could look at it after returning, I'll be very grateful.	08:13
Sc0rpius	I'm here	08:14
Sc0rpius	I was whining at #mer	08:14
Estel_	oh :)	08:14
Sc0rpius	I think I miss the problem?	08:14
Estel_	ok, I'll re-paste my monologue ;)	08:15
Estel_	Sc0rpius, could You help me with one last thing?	08:15
Estel_	I though I'll manage to do it myself, but still failing	08:15
Estel_	beside adjust-rcS-late.sh, I'll also include update-rcS-late.sh	08:16
Sc0rpius	ok	08:16
Estel_	the latter is almost identical script, that take already modified rcS-late	08:16
Estel_	and update locations swaps there	08:16
Estel_	(in case user change swap layout and update config, update-rcS-late.sh will update it for user safely)	08:16
Estel_	I tried to just imput same things on both sides of @	08:16
Estel_	on "old" content side using wildcard mmcblk[0-9]+p[0-9]+	08:16
Estel_	and on "new" content side, use exactly same content as with previous script ($swap0 etc)	08:17
Sc0rpius	ok	08:17
Estel_	yet, resulting modified file is totally screwed up	08:17
Estel_	whole rcS-late is filled with patterns ;)	08:17
Sc0rpius	what's your script this time?	08:17
Estel_	I've also triedd to update 5 occurences in 5 steps...	08:17
Estel_	but results vere similar	08:17
Estel_	Sc0rpius, here is my 2nd script (modified to not load external config):	08:17
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?9217d7d86f9cf762#hh6lpRRVhTBJnBo+XxJBDZW5/5Ag1yfmE2zXU9zgJPk=	08:18
Estel_	here is file to be modified:	08:18
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?f2348cacc4e4fc8f#jhkbnYBZKiWYdgi6tJ60jB3guPDqxybWbfK6QwbnrWM=	08:18
Estel_	...and here is how file should look after operation:	08:18
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?c15cb8bf247c7a39#1QwS15G45PHlF8fuxzSc2alQoQIitGcBWO3UZUuw8s4=	08:18
Estel_	(just numbers modified on 5 place, normally script will take new values from config)	08:18
Estel_	playback complete ;)	08:18
Sc0rpius	hmm	08:19
Estel_	after fail of "5 steps" solution, I tried what You see in script now - whole text in one step	08:20
Sc0rpius	and what are you getting with your script?	08:21
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Sc0rpius	'cos I'm getting a total disaster with it	08:22
Estel_	same here	08:23
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Sc0rpius	mostly because you forgot to escape >	08:24
Sc0rpius	no , it's not that	08:25
Sc0rpius	lemme see what's wrong	08:25
Sc0rpius	ok	08:26
Sc0rpius	try your script without escaping & and \|	08:26
Sc0rpius	but that will never work	08:29
Sc0rpius	listen	08:29
Sc0rpius	sed works line by line	08:29
Sc0rpius	you can't match two lines on sed at a time	08:29
Sc0rpius	I can see that you have a \n in the match expression, that will never work	08:29
Sc0rpius	but this script is to "revert" the first script, what I would do is create a .bak file or something instead of doing another script for reverting	08:29
Estel_	somewhere theyMve written about using 1!H and such things	08:30
Estel_	no no	08:30
Estel_	not revert	08:30
Estel_	just update mmcblkp values	08:30
Estel_	and honestly I've tried line by line approach in many steps	08:30
Sc0rpius	ok	08:30
Estel_	(5 steps for 5 values to replace)	08:30
Sc0rpius	but you don't need to match the first blkid -g line	08:30
Estel_	it resulted in same disaster	08:30
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Estel_	sure	08:31
Estel_	just 2nd and 3nd	08:31
Sc0rpius	isn't easier like this:	08:31
Estel_	should be doable in 2 steps	08:31
Sc0rpius	hmm	08:32
Sc0rpius	the problem is that there are two swaps	08:32
Estel_	yea.	08:32
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Estel_	swap0 is 2 times in first line and 2 times in second	08:33
Sc0rpius	but i would definitly do simpler scripts like:	08:33
Estel_	swap2 is only one time, in first line	08:33
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Sc0rpius	this will be funny but:	08:34
Sc0rpius	sed s/mmcblk.p.[^$]/$swap0/g	08:35
Sc0rpius	and then:	08:35
Sc0rpius	sed s/mmcbkl.p.$/$swap1/	08:35
Sc0rpius	and done.	08:35
Sc0rpius	I would summarize your really big script with just those 2 lines.	08:35
Estel_	would be wonderful, but	08:36
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Estel_	wouldn't it in step 2nd replace thing from step 1nd?	08:36
Estel_	resulting in swap2 everywhere?	08:36
Sc0rpius	no the first one will replace any mmcblk that is not at the end of a line with swap0	08:36
Sc0rpius	and the second line will replace only mmcblk that are at the end of a line with swap1 (or 2 or whatever)	08:36
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Estel_	kk, trying	08:37
Sc0rpius	if that scares you, you can change it to:	08:37
Sc0rpius	sed s/mmcblk.p.*\|\|/$swap0/g <-- all mmblk that are behind a \|\|	08:37
Sc0rpius	sed s/\|\|.*mmcbkl.p.$/$swap2/ <-- all mmblk that are after a \|\|	08:37
Estel_	no, why scarry :) just need to check	08:38
Estel_	I see	08:38
Sc0rpius	and actually I can summarize the first script to something very simple too	08:38
Sc0rpius	if you think somebody has more than 9 partitions use [0-9]+ instead of .	08:39
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Estel_	Sc0rpius, little problem	08:51
Sc0rpius	?	08:51
Estel_	on 1st occurence, it also replaces a dot	08:51
Sc0rpius	what dot?	08:51
Estel_	blkid \| grep /dev/mmcblk7p3.*TYPE=\"swap\"	08:52
Estel_	becomes	08:52
Estel_	blkid \| grep /dev/mmcblk1p2*TYPE=\"swap\"	08:52
Estel_	(missing dot before *TYPE)	08:52
Sc0rpius	I see	08:52
Estel_	i wanted to fix it, but	08:52
Estel_	it breaks other occurences ;)	08:52
Estel_	I'm using 1st version You proposed	08:53
Estel_	sed -i s@mmcblk.p.[^$]@$swap0@g /home/user/original-rcS-late	08:53
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Sc0rpius	yeah lemme think	08:55
Sc0rpius	I know why	08:55
Estel_	also there is missing space after 2nd occurence	08:56
Estel_	&& /sbin/swapon /dev/mmcblk7p3 \|\|	08:56
Estel_	&& /sbin/swapon /dev/mmcblk1p2\|\|	08:56
Estel_	(space before pipes)	08:56
Sc0rpius	sed "s/mmcblk.p.$[^$]$/$swap0\1/g" file	08:57
Sc0rpius	and for the second one:	08:57
Estel_	same for 2nd line:	08:57
Estel_	/usr/bin/iostat -md mmcblk1p2\| grep mmcblk1p2\| awk	08:57
Estel_	/usr/bin/iostat -md mmcblk1p2 \| grep mmcblk1p2 \| awk	08:58
Sc0rpius	yeah it's fixed with:	08:58
Sc0rpius	sed "s/mmcblk.p.$[^$]$/$swap0\1/g" file	08:58
Estel_	(should be with space	08:58
Estel_	ok	08:58
Sc0rpius	the second one works fine:	08:59
Sc0rpius	sed "s/mmcblk.p.$/$swap2/" file	09:00
Macer	synology uses cgi	09:04
Estel_	thanks a lot, works flawlessly under all conditions	09:04
Estel_	You've made it so simple Sc0rpius :)	09:04
Estel_	I see that with such thing expertise gained due to experience matters really, really very much	09:04
Estel_	I've been using loong scripts just hoping to get it working, and Yours 6x shorten works ideally :)	09:05
Estel_	Sc0rpius, what is Your tmo link?	09:07
Estel_	s/link/nick/	09:07
infobot	Estel_ meant: Sc0rpius, what is Your tmo nick?	09:07
Estel_	want to give proper credits in script comment and package description :)	09:07
Sc0rpius	tmo link?	09:11
Estel_	nick	09:11
Sc0rpius	tmo nick hmm	09:11
Sc0rpius	it's Scorpius	09:11
Estel_	;) thanks	09:12
Sc0rpius	I was checking if it was with an o or with a zero	09:12
Sc0rpius	(I forgot)	09:12
Estel_	understood	09:12
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Sc0rpius	Estel do you use Backupmenu right?	09:18
Sc0rpius	'cos I think you post in that thread	09:18
Estel_	yes	09:18
Sc0rpius	do you use it with multiboot (default) or with U-Boot?	09:18
Estel_	in fact I use backupmenu-multiboot variant, manually updated to latest verion	09:19
Estel_	s/verion/version/	09:19
infobot	Estel_ meant: in fact I use backupmenu-multiboot variant, manually updated to latest version	09:19
Sc0rpius	I would really like to stop using multiboot and use U-Boot since everything works with U-Boot (Nemo, Nitdroid, etc) but I love my Backupmenu	09:19
Estel_	I don't use U-Boot yet, I'm still not sure if it's not posing regressions. Probably will switch when thumb2 arrives	09:19
Estel_	backupmenu can be used with U-boot for 100%	09:20
Sc0rpius	that's what I've heard	09:20
Estel_	I remember someone asking it it U-boot thread	09:20
Estel_	ye	09:20
Estel_	s/ye/yea/	09:20
infobot	Estel_ meant: yea	09:20
Estel_	although I don't have any details :(	09:20
Sc0rpius	some guy uploaded some files to make it work but the link expired	09:20
Estel_	hm	09:20
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Sc0rpius	anyway the first thing I need is a microSD and I don't have one	09:27
Sc0rpius	after that I'll think about U-Boot + Backupmenu	09:27
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Estel_	hm, why not using eMMC for this?	09:30
Sc0rpius	the thing is that I want to test Mer/Nemo	09:32
Sc0rpius	but I need a microSD card for that	09:32
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Estel_	I see. Sure thing	09:43
Estel_	but sd cards should be cheap	09:43
Estel_	be sure to buy class 4 one	09:43
Estel_	prefferably genuine sandisk 8GB	09:43
Estel_	most performance, better than class 6 or 10	09:43
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Macer	heh	09:46
Estel_	ufff, ereswap finished	09:47
Estel_	I took it as first project to upload to extras as I though it'll be faster	09:48
Estel_	but during preparing ideas for make it more conveinent for users came...	09:48
Estel_	and it turned out to be hardest and most complex	09:48
Estel_	not it's like backend for a swap management utility	09:48
Estel_	can be used from terminal, via desktop shortcuts (obviously), queen-beecon-widgets, shortcutd etc...	09:49
Estel_	and writing gui for it should be trivial for anyone experienced	09:49
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Estel_	whole code is rather simple and commented very verbosely, so it should be quite good for other people to learn few tricks I've scavenged from pros (and small, very small fraction of my inventions)	09:50
Estel_	only thing it's lacking now is enabling ramzswap (on demand)	09:50
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Estel_	I hope You people will enjoy it ;) later I'll upload other, more simple yet useful	09:51
Estel_	things	09:51
Estel_	see ya!	09:51
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Psi	would anyone commend a web based file manager i can run on the n900 so i can grab files from other pcs on the lan without having to take the phone out of my pocket?	10:07
Psi	commend=recommend	10:07
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Sicelo	Psi: what about plain old sftp	10:21
Estel_	merlin1991, ping	10:22
Estel_	merlin1991, I've finished my work on ereswap, although got predictable problems with builder	10:23
Psi	Sicelo: need a client	10:23
Estel_	I suspect it's /debian/rules fault, so here it is:	10:23
Psi	i want something that works without me having to install anything on their pc	10:23
Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?416a9573dc5751c6#6HvCkkZUEujhPy5GmJvy48ZIhCMvciQCHMZLhNKsSCU=	10:25
Estel_	summary log from builder just says "failed" without providing any hints	10:25
Estel_	detail logs is here, although, also not helpful:	10:25
Sicelo	Psi: hmm, ftp server on your N900 then. any pc has an ftp client.	10:26
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Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?c6f081284e324b62#gVlGl5GHa22wirEpW7zHROJXdTYkviFzP4msAopXzlA=	10:27
Estel_	here is my ereswap_1.0.dsc:	10:29
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Estel_	http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?1e3a45f2cf7e1f8a#nMHsqM2WVNS2UajQk2/HgS3gkhnjh5w+5jW7MgpOmu8=	10:29
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Estel_	...and here is source package:	10:29
Estel_	https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/ereswap_1.0/sources/ereswap_1.0.tar.gz	10:29
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Estel_	merlin1991, if You could look at it, I would be thankful. No idea what could be wrong besides rules (yet, I think I followed Your suggestions)	10:30
Estel_	thanks in advance!	10:30
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Psi	Sicelo: you mean browser as ftp client?	10:35
Sicelo	iirc all versions of windows have ftp.exe (cmd line..) which will allow you to upload to your N900 as well.	10:38
Sicelo	anyway, it was just a suggestion.. there might be a 'web' method that would fit your needs better	10:39
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Psi	Sicelo: commandline ftp is awful	10:57
Psi	or it is for what i want	10:57
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joga	Psi you want to grab files to n900 from other computers, without touching the phone?	11:06
Psi	correct	11:07
Psi	want to walk into places that i already have wifi setup and be able to upload/download files to my phone while its still in my pocket~	11:08
Psi	be nice if i could also view text files	11:08
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joga	I dunno...I always use ssh for such	11:11
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Psi	yeah, but then i need to install putty	11:13
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Sicelo	Psi: another option is samba	11:27
Psi	yeah, i have that, bit its a bit of a cpu hog	11:27
Psi	*but	11:27
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Sc0rpius	what about OpenSSH server and you just SFTP to the phone from PCs?	11:28
Sc0rpius	that's what I do.	11:28
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Sicelo	he's already ruled that one out	11:28
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petteri	rsync with /etc/network/if-up rule	11:28
Sc0rpius	oh he wants it web based?	11:28
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petteri	with N9 you can do it easiely with profilematic	11:29
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Sicelo	Psi: why are you doing this..? i mean, why you can't whip your phone out of the pocket for the file upload/download?	11:29
Psi	lazy	11:31
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* Sicelo doesn't believe that .. anyway		11:33
chem\|st	putty and winscp do not need an install	11:33
chem\|st	o/	11:33
Sicelo	so, you get to this place, your N900 auto-connects, how do you find out what IP address N900 was assigned?	11:33
Psi	chem\|st: you still need to go download them	11:33
Psi	or grab them somehow	11:34
chem\|st	Sicelo: simple broadcast	11:34
Psi	Sicelo: i setup a mac static on the wifi	11:34
Psi	or that	11:34
Sicelo	if you do all that, i don't see how/why ftp is a no-go	11:35
Psi	ftp is more a file download/upload app, i want a full file manager	11:35
Psi	with copy/move etc	11:35
chem\|st	Psi: some liek kies air?	11:35
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Psi	ive used Ajaxplorer but i only got it installed inside debian chroot, so i would still need to load that on the phone first	11:36
chem\|st	Psi: start stop services depending on the network you are in	11:36
Psi	yeah, could do i guess	11:36
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* Estel_ WinSys Client: XChat-WDK 1507 (x86) OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional CPU: Procesor Intel Pentium III Xeon (2,00 GHz) RAM: 3581 MB Total (2725 MB Free) VGA: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT Uptime: 50,03 Hours		11:44
jargon-	anybody have this problem where media files somehow corrupt each other? some of my music and video files seem to partially overwrite some of my podcast files	11:45
Estel_	fckd'ed up vfat filesystem?	11:46
jargon-	deleting the podcast file and redownloading, doesn't seem to help. file remains corrupted	11:46
jargon-	run fsck?	11:46
Estel_	yeo, but unmount first of course	11:46
jargon-	ok	11:46
Estel_	prefferable, fsck.vfat /dev/mmcblk1p1 -r -v	11:46
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Estel_	if that doesn't help, copy all remaining good things, and re-format vfat (re create)	11:47
Estel_	then copy back	11:47
Estel_	if that doesn't help, i have NFC	11:47
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jargon-	hmm. can't mount it as user	11:50
jargon-	and if i mount as root, it's all root-owned	11:50
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Psi	yeah, i agree when fat16/32 gets corrupt you get some weird things occuring	11:55
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jargon-	Psi: Estel_: how do i mount it back as user after fsck?	11:55
Psi	also, you get strange issues when your microsd card is cheap and cant handle the timing the device is trying to use it at	11:55
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jargon-	no microsd yet	11:56
Psi	so just the onboard?	11:56
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jargon-	yeah	11:57
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Psi	strange	11:58
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Estel_	jargon, device should be usable if You use proper mount commands	12:24
Estel_	even if you mount as root	12:24
Estel_	gimme a sec	12:24
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Estel_	mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk1p1 /home/user/MyDocs -o noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir	12:26
Estel_	that's proper mounting line for MyDocs	12:26
Estel_	do Yourself a favor and save it as shell script in /usrb/sbin/	12:26
Estel_	for example "mydocson.sh"	12:26
Estel_	BTW, reboot would also help You ;)	12:26
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Estel_	DocScrutinizer, about charge21.sh done by this guy - you've pointed out nice suggestion there, what about a revision of his code?	12:43
Estel_	We already know You're one of sh mastahs, so, it would be great to have properly revisioned code. It could be a semi-official update to charge.sh	12:44
Estel_	BTw, i never remember, which charge was more reccomended - charge.sh or charge21.sh	12:44
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DocScrutinizer51	Estel_: already on my todo list	12:55
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Estel_	DocScrutinizer, nice to hear :D	12:58
Estel_	Well, i'm not councilor (yet?), but I try to faciliate communication and ideas already ;)	12:59
Estel_	at least it's always easier to know right person to do some thing, than do it yourself, lol...	12:59
Estel_	seriously though, I haven't sleep yet due to fricking package I'm preparing. with giga help of Sc0rpius, I was able to finish it	13:00
Estel_	yet now build fail ;)	13:00
Estel_	considering it doesn't contain any code to compile - just .sh scripts and /debian/* required files - it's quite irritating	13:00
Estel_	especially after 12 hours of work	13:00
Estel_	:p	13:00
Estel_	or more...	13:00
DocScrutinizer51	re ETB: http://www.email-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg17607.html http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ihi0014o/index.html	13:02
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merlin1991	Estel_: your control file is wrong	13:18
Estel_	I'm all ears. with feets, actually.	13:18
merlin1991	anything multiline, like descriptions has to have a new line starting with a space, just like with the xb-maemo-icon-26	13:19
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Estel_	roger that.	13:20
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merlin1991	also why do you chmod the scripts in postinst?	13:20
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Estel_	because they'rer not runable otherwise?	13:34
Estel_	merlin1991	13:34
merlin1991	have them with the runable bit set in the tar already	13:35
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DocScrutinizer51	lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/kernel/etm.c	13:37
merlin1991	dafuq?	13:37
freemangordon	merlin1991, thumb2 :P	13:37
DocScrutinizer51	we got that (or could get that) in KP?	13:38
freemangordon	and ways to trace it	13:38
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freemangordon	DocScrutinizer51, I can bet that n900 being HS device will not benefit of that. Just imagine if userspace is allowed to do instruction (or whatever) trace of everything in system. don't believe that i possible.	13:39
DocScrutinizer51	yup	13:40
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DocScrutinizer51	though, since we don't run secure mose anyway...	13:40
DocScrutinizer51	mode*	13:40
Estel_	merlin1991, thanks	13:40
Estel_	I've just based postinst script on other packages	13:40
Estel_	afaik even hend does this chmod :P	13:41
Estel_	will keep in mind that it's not needed	13:41
freemangordon	DocScrutinizer51, otherwise all that HS, TrustZone , etc. talk will be a pile of crap	13:41
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DocScrutinizer51	isn't it anyway, for fremantle?	13:42
Estel_	merlin1991, so i already define new lines in description by making it new line + space?	13:42
merlin1991	yep	13:42
Estel_	~roger	13:42
infobot	BZFlag's autopilot, named after "Airplane's" pilot	13:42
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freemangordon	DocScrutinizer51, why is that? Once (and if) I have my NFC flex cable I will explore the possibilities for true banking/payment applications on n900	13:43
Estel_	rules file is ok?	13:43
merlin1991	get rid of the --buildsystem=cmake	13:43
merlin1991	but otherwise rules should work	13:44
Estel_	freemangordon, dafuq? payment application?	13:44
Estel_	connected to which interface?	13:44
Estel_	merlin1991, ok	13:44
freemangordon	And having in mind that there is kind of HW security supported, lets see hw it will develop	13:44
freemangordon	Estel_, yes, NFC	13:44
Estel_	what does than stand for, other than no fuckin clue	13:44
Estel_	near field com?	13:44
freemangordon	yep	13:45
Estel_	they couldn't take worse shortcut name	13:45
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freemangordon	:D	13:45
freemangordon	what about PCI?	13:45
Estel_	merli, empty lines betwen acapits ind escription also must contain space?	13:45
Estel_	PCI desktop interface :OP	13:45
freemangordon	Payment Card(s) Industry	13:46
merlin1991	Estel_: yes, anything the belongs to the description apart form the first line has to start with a space	13:46
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Estel_	s/merli/merlin1991/	13:46
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Estel_	roger roger	13:46
Estel_	experience is rising to heavens ;)	13:46
Estel_	after df in rules file, should I keep $@ ?	13:49
merlin1991	yes	13:49
Estel_	(after getting rid of --buildsystem=cmake)	13:49
Estel_	ok	13:49
Estel_	what exactly this tag means?	13:49
merlin1991	it's shortcut to the old way of debhelper where you had to have a line for every friggin dh_* script	13:49
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merlin1991	rules file is called like "make dh_shlibdebs" and the %: rule grabs that and just runs it	13:50
Estel_	understood	13:51
Estel_	where have yopu learned all of this ;)	13:51
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DocScrutinizer51	freemangordon: IHI0014Q_etm_architecture_spec.pdf p129 "3.5 detailed register descriptions" ETMACTR [13:10]	14:02
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lardman	online I hasten to mention ;)	14:07
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Estel_	lardman, yesterday they fallen with torch due to light wind	14:11
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Estel_	but on Ukraine, as protest against UEFA EURO, 2 femminist activists devastated some footbal cup	14:12
lardman	Estel_: yes, made me laugh that even for an RRP ~£500 torch, it won't stay lit ;)	14:12
lardman	devastated?	14:12
Estel_	first one went topless with quite obscenic writing on stomach, and, after short consternation, guards kicked at her - then, 2nd one picked cup and threw it to the ground	14:12
Estel_	little tricky ;)	14:12
Estel_	s/kicked/jumped/	14:13
Estel_	jumped, not kicked	14:13
lardman	ah ok a real cup, I thought you meant a match	14:13
Estel_	haha	14:13
Estel_	although I don't support devastation, I feel quite sympathetic for them ;)	14:13
Estel_	ammount of corruption during preparing EURO on ukraine is gigantic, with uefa blessing	14:14
Estel_	well, even here in Poland it doesn't look bright, and only one aprt that is going to make money on this shit is UEFA	14:14
Estel_	but msot sheeps are regulatory happy about it ;)	14:14
lardman	(I also briefly wondered whether you meant this climbing into a football stadium ;) : http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/tf-rotf-devastator-concept-art-overload-robot-mode/16446/)	14:15
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Estel_	merlin1991, still builder failed with same output (lack of) :(	14:23
Estel_	failed and no reason provided, and in detailed log, last line is	14:23
Estel_	[2012-05-22 14:08:24] cd /home/builder2/maemo-fremantle-i386-extras-devel/work/ereswap-1.0 && dpkg-checkbuilddeps	14:23
Estel_	[2012-05-22 14:08:24] Cleaning up...	14:23
Estel_	[2012-05-22 14:08:24] Removing temporary target...	14:23
Estel_	[2012-05-22 14:08:25] Done.	14:23
Estel_	= exactly like before	14:23
Estel_	WTF autobuilder wants from me to provide/fix?	14:23
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Estel_	Link to actual tarball ---> https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/ereswap_1.0/sources/ereswap_1.0.tar.gz	14:25
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Estel_	I've added spaces as recommended + removed unnecesary line from rule	14:26
Estel_	any help appreciated, would like to push this bugger through.	14:26
Estel_	maybe something with dependencies? It doesn't depent on anything excepot debhelper for build...	14:27
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Estel_	Should I remove ${shlibs:Depends} ? I don't think so...	14:28
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X-Fade	Estel_: Are you using windows to edit these files?	14:29
Estel_	nope, edited on Maemo	14:29
Estel_	I did everything on device	14:29
Estel_	frankly, I suspect it's my fault, not autobuilder's (i'm doing it for the first time this way - very first was with truecrypt source, not entirely my own fioles)	14:30
Estel_	s/fioles/files/	14:30
infobot	Estel_ meant: frankly, I suspect it's my fault, not autobuilder's (i'm doing it for the first time this way - very first was with truecrypt source, not entirely my own files)	14:30
Estel_	probably I just did something wrong way, can't figure what though.	14:31
X-Fade	Your control file looks messy.	14:31
* Estel_ nods		14:31
X-Fade	Empty lines in description need a dot.	14:31
Estel_	which part may be wrong? description still?	14:31
Estel_	0_o good to know	14:31
merlin1991	hm the empty line after the dscription shouldn't be there	14:32
X-Fade	And all that crap in the description is also not needed.	14:32
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X-Fade	That is what instructions are for ;)	14:32
X-Fade	You're putting your whole life story in there :D	14:33
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Estel_	:d wanted to be verbose, but You're right	14:34
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Estel_	will move it to man inside and clean	14:34
X-Fade	Description also has some specific rules.	14:34
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X-Fade	first line is short description, next lines are the regular description	14:34
Estel_	I'm all ears with feets. I're red about mentioning that it's command-line tool	14:34
kent_autistic	guys, we are having problems with facebook sharing plugin. more info at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84410	14:35
kent_autistic	any ideas why?	14:35
X-Fade	Estel_: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Description	14:35
Estel_	thanks a lot X-Fade (and merlin1991), fixing it...	14:35
X-Fade	Estel_: ^^ That doc describes it all.	14:35
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Estel_	X-Fade, thanks, went through it	14:41
Estel_	although, some doesn't apply here, yep? I haven't seen any md5sums on .changes file	14:41
Estel_	(maemo one)	14:41
Estel_	only in .dsc	14:41
Estel_	put aside details like lack of sha256 sum, sha1 and md5sum only. right?	14:41
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Estel_	X-Fade, what about /debian/changelog? is it ok?	14:51
Estel_	documentation says about dots and spaces, but, scavenging changes files from other packages in repos, I don't see anything like that	14:51
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DocScrutinizer51	anybody else thinks wiki page design or CSS sheet sucks sonce months?	14:57
DocScrutinizer51	buzzword "BETA" et all	14:58
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Estel_	fixed all things as suggested and trying to upload again...	15:16
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Estel_	X-Fade, still failed :(	15:25
Estel_	strange, it created both 1386.root.log.OK.txt and 1386.root.log.FAILED.txt	15:26
Estel_	0_o	15:26
Estel_	1386.root.log.OK.txt one got same content as former reports, although, FAILEd one got some usefull info, actually	15:26
Estel_	https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/ereswap_1.0/i386.build.log.FAILED.txt	15:27
Estel_	cp: cannot stat `./data/adjust-rcS-late': No such file or directory	15:27
Estel_	dh_install: cp -a ./data/adjust-rcS-late debian/ereswap/home/user/.ereswap/ returned exit code 1	15:27
Estel_	wtf?	15:27
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Estel_	file is actually called adjust-rcS-late.sh	15:28
* Estel_ points out on .sh		15:28
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X-Fade	Estel_: Check your debian/install file	15:29
Estel_	yea, noticed that as well, I'm dumbie	15:30
Estel_	actually, like hell	15:30
Estel_	~ashamed	15:30
infobot	ashamed is probably an exemplary example of a nerd baller	15:30
Estel_	;) sorry, should notice it myself before asking	15:31
X-Fade	Good thing is that the builder doesn't make this stuff up :)	15:31
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Estel_	yea :)	15:35
Estel_	YEA, build suceed!	15:38
Estel_	X-Fade, merlin1991 huge, huge thanks	15:38
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Estel_	finally I've something that works to base further work upon	15:38
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Estel_	Woody14619, ivgalvez, ping?	17:01
Estel_	#maemo, http://maemo.org/packages/ereswap <- it's effect of efforts and my endless question to You all :)	17:03
Estel_	if anyone feel it usable and/or willing to tes, i'll be glad	17:03
Estel_	enjoy!	17:03
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kent_autistic	anybody familiar with fbreader?	17:10
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jaska	depends on what familiar means, i have read .epub:s with it	17:10
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sobczyk	hi, is there any hope of getting the usb port fixed after warranty?	17:13
sobczyk	it's not yet completely detached, but getting loose	17:14
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rm_work	sobczyk: by nokia, no -- even if it was under warranty, they would send you back a different device, not fix it :/	17:18
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luke-jr	anyone encounter N900 that says it's charging, but doesn't? :/	17:21
kent_autistic	jaska: is there really no kinetic scrolling in fbreader?	17:22
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jaska	i scroll by page anyway	17:22
jaska	so dont know	17:22
jaska	i never even wanted that feature so havent looked for it	17:23
kent_autistic	do you it in portrait orientation?	17:24
kent_autistic	do you use it in portrait orientation?	17:24
jaska	yeah, portrait, using the volume keys for page scrolling	17:24
Estel_	sobczyk, only fellow maemo users can repair it for You	17:24
sobczyk	rm_work: what about soldering?	17:24
Estel_	for a feww/donation	17:24
Estel_	or You can done it on Your own	17:24
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Estel_	if going via other maemo user way, You must consider paying for work and shipping	17:25
Estel_	work is mostly a bargain, considering ammoung of work needed to fix it by hand, shipping can get worse, both sides	17:25
Estel_	sobczyk, the main problem is that evgen if Your port hjaven't feel appart...	17:25
Estel_	if port's pad is loose on motherboard	17:26
Estel_	it wont be easily fixable	17:26
rm_work	sobczyk: i think this is possible, but you need to find someone who knows how to take the device apart (and put it back together!) safely without damaging it, and is good at soldering very small parts that are very close to other fragile things.	17:26
Estel_	only pads thaT ARE INTACT ARE QUITE EASY	17:26
Estel_	sorry, caps	17:26
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rm_work	i had my USB port completely break off, but I think it still would have been possible to fix by someone who was REALLY good at soldering	17:26
sobczyk	already disassembled it, I own a soldering station	17:26
Estel_	dissasembling and assembling is trivial, soldering is while troubles start	17:27
Estel_	sobczyk, unless it's a ifnra red station, You probably mean just ressistive soldering iron with temp control?	17:27
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sobczyk	I already soldered 0402 SMDs so Im rather comfortable with it	17:27
Estel_	I've already fixed many N900's for fellow Maemo users (usb ports)	17:27
Estel_	sobczyk, so just do it	17:27
Estel_	if You got thin enough soldering tip...	17:27
Estel_	you should be good	17:28
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Estel_	then, after soldering, reinforce port as per dr_frost_dk's instructions	17:28
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sobczyk	ok now I see why soldering with reisistive tip might be a problem, the shield just behind the usb gets in the way	17:35
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Estel_	You can remove part of it	17:35
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Estel_	does anyone know, if javispedro 's c FM Radio have an option to listen through speaker?	17:59
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Estel_	s/speaker/speakers/	17:59
infobot	Estel_ meant: does anyone know, if javispedro 's c FM Radio have an option to listen through speakers?	17:59
Estel_	of course I know it's possible via messing with alsa, but I'm asking about it's GUI	18:00
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javispedro	Estel_: I don't know if the extras release has, but latest source tarballs have several options for you to choose how to actually do the mixing =)	18:07
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Hurrian	Estel_, nice script ;)	18:12
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Hurrian	may I suggest keeping the config in /home/user/.config/ereswap	18:13
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DocScrutinizer51	javispedro: what's your take on ARM ETB / ETM / STM / CoreSight on N900?	18:14
javispedro	as in, trace block?	18:15
DocScrutinizer51	yup	18:15
javispedro	you probably know that better than I do, I don't even know what are the pins under the battery	18:16
DocScrutinizer51	we might get really great 'coredumps'	18:16
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DocScrutinizer51	nah	18:16
javispedro	.oO(jtag?)	18:16
DocScrutinizer51	it's a buffer (6.8k iirc) that traces opcodes data of reg and timestamps and can get read out from CPU in my book	18:17
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DocScrutinizer51	of course also via jtag	18:17
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javispedro	that'd make for interesting performance counters	18:18
DocScrutinizer51	yep	18:18
DocScrutinizer51	all sorts of highly interesting things	18:18
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DocScrutinizer51	see backscroll, I spammed links	18:19
* DocScrutinizer51 idly wonders what beagleboard guys did with ETB		18:21
sobczyk	i did the dr_frost_dk modifications on the usb port, but still it seems as if the port is loose, either the small pins are not attached well (I could not reach them with the iron) or the USB port loosened inside	18:21
DocScrutinizer51	how can it seem loose?	18:22
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sobczyk	when I push the connected charger plug down, info appears on n900 that I can disconnect the charger from wall socket	18:24
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Hurrian	it probably lifts the pins when you push it down	18:27
Hurrian	yeah, clean it all up, and resolder	18:27
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Estel_	Hurrian, do You remember what need to be done, in order to force re-assigning of icons in Maemo's menu (alphabetically, it re-sort that by default)	18:39
Estel_	?	18:39
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DocScrutinizer	http://pidgin.im/news/security/?id=62 http://pidgin.im/news/security/?id=63	22:03
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NIN101	anybody noticed that the openssh stuff in maemo is outdated? Not sure whether there some critical vulnerabilities though.	22:08
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Macer	wow	22:37
Macer	something that is seriously irritating me about the lumia 900	22:37
Macer	the damn wifi turns off when you put it in sleep mode	22:37
Macer	and turns back on when you wake it up. totally screwing over my gtalk client	22:37
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DocScrutinizer	NIN101: good point	22:46
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Sicelo	luke-jr: yes, i've had a few times of N900 with blinking orange on wallwart, apparently charging, but actually discharging	23:00
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Sicelo	Estel_: maybe you can persuade javispedro to release an update to the radio then. also add the ability to advance frequencies by 0.5MHz intervals. only FM Radio (pycage) supports that afaik	23:03
Sicelo	meh, 0.05MHz :)	23:04
luke-jr	Sicelo: this is on car charger and PC :/	23:04
luke-jr	is $220 a reasonable price for a barely-used N900 these days?	23:05
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Sicelo	in all the times i've had that, it's the charger connection that was at fault, not n900. you could possibly check with bq27200.sh script	23:06
Sicelo	btw, how's the Gentoo effort?	23:07
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